Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " new00@ " <new00@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste: > > > > > > I am new to your list and was just wondering if this is the only > > type of > > > discussion that goes on in the group? I've been here about a week > > now, and > > > the only emails I've seen are the rant and tirade between two of > > the group > > > members. > > > > > > I am new to Nisargadatta and was looking forward to learning more > > from this > > > group. If this is not the place to learn, I'll keep looking. > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > Nanette > > > > > > > if you are here to learn...judging is not the way... > > > > you can go to all the groups in the world... > > if you bring judgemental thoughts...you will probably see problems > > everywhere...sit back and enjoy the drama...thats lesson number one... > > ...iietsa > > > what makes you make that judgment about 'things'? > > LOL! > > .b b.b. > maby it appear judgemental in your point of view... but I have noticed from my own experience that if I am judgemental...it doesnt matter where I go...there always seems to be something wrong...and if I lay aside the mind totaly...there is nothing (wrong)... ....iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > its been a while since last time so to speak... > > > > > > > > my life-film is still on from moment to moment...but I > do > > > not > > > > > > give > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > value or importance to it...so its like it is slowly > > > > > > > > disappearing...like a man and his world transforming > into > > a > > > > > goast > > > > > > > or a > > > > > > > > shadow... > > > > > > > > and the (inner) glow...who I am...without the body (or > > the > > > > ego- > > > > > > > me)...is > > > > > > > > appearing to shine brighter and brighter...not that it > is > > > > > > > so...because > > > > > > > > it is ever full-shining.... > > > > > > > > its more like when I cling or give values to the > material > > > > > > > world...those > > > > > > > > values transforms from goasts or shadows into the world > > and > > > > > > > everything.. > > > > > > > > and this everything covers the pure light of the Self... > > > > > > > > and this is what is going on everywhere so to > speak...the > > > man > > > > > > that > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > really awake starts dreaming...and takes the dream to > be > > > > > > reality... > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > look like a message....written for our beloved bbb... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who is bbb? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's just another fiction of this your mentionned " pure > > light > > > > of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > Self " .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whatever you do and write....it will always be for & from > > this > > > > your > > > > > > Self > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing else > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you train the body-it will become strong... > > > > > > if you dont train the body-it will become weak... > > > > > > a strong body = a body...a weak body = a body... > > > > > > and its the same with mind...or anything... > > > > > > ...if the body is weak...it is not enough to think or > > say " the > > > > body > > > > > > is strong " ...that is only stupid....its like going to a > > hungry > > > > lion > > > > > > with a piece of bread... > > > > > > I offer only words here....nothing else... > > > > > > words that can show you the way to the gates of > liberation... > > > > > > you can do what you want with the words... > > > > > > from " liberation " they are absolutely meaningless... > > > > > > but from bondage the can be helpful... > > > > > > so, instead of being against what I write... > > > > > > try to be more creative and write some helpful words to the > > > ones > > > > > that > > > > > > are not yet realized in pure freedom... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seem that you have/got a well trained mind so....for some > > > reason.... > > > > > > > > > > i'm not against with what you write.....i tried to show you > > that > > > > > there are No interests from bbb to this you mentionned " words > > > that > > > > > can show the way to the gates of liberation " .... > > > > > > > > > > even Not...after endless exchanges and words that you > exchanged > > > > with > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > first of all, this Your words are mentionned to/from > > > YourSelf....as > > > > i > > > > > told you....there is nothing else. > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > there is No bbb, seperated to You.....to whom You need to > give > > > any > > > > > precious informations.... > > > > > > > > > > there is only an appearent other one....due to this your > > working > > > > > (trained) ego-mind > > > > > > > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > > if there were some awareness....You would have great fun with > > > this > > > > > appearent bbb....instead to get worry about anybodies " way to > > > > > liberation " > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see your point... > > > > but as I myself used to take myself for what I am not... > > > > lets call it...that I was blind thinking I could see... > > > > I understand that this appearant illusion was not only on (my) > > > mind... > > > > ...the one Self that is forever now...has somehow forgotten its > > > > core...and attuned itself to its drawings...so to speak...in > many > > > > places...and because of this we have what we > > > > call...separation...duality...and when one takes oneself for > such > > a > > > > part...(even if it is just a dream)...it creates the so called > > > > dreamer that is living a so called life...(what I try to say is > > > that > > > > all is one...but in a cloudy way it is taken by the ignorant > mind > > > to > > > > be many).... > > > > I can never help another...one can only help oneself... > > > > but if I have the repice for a fantastic cake...why not give > the > > > > repice (to all my friends)... > > > > some will say...fu** the repice...I just want the cake... > > > > but the cake is seldom tasted without knowing the repice... > > > > (only accidentaly...as it was for me...I tasted the cake and > > > suddenly > > > > it was gone...no more cake left...and I had no repice)... > > > > the recipe is all...if there is missing only one tiny > > > > ingredient...the cake will fail...or if not all the ingredients > > are > > > > treated exact the same...the cake will fail... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > This your " fantastic recipe " is maybe only fantastic for You.... > > > Means everybody enjoy other " fantastic recipe " > > > > > > The popes of all religions strongly believe they " got THE cake > > recipe " > > > One don't need to be an expert to see what is the result of such > > > troubles....all around the world.... > > > means, to understand what is the nature of worldly troubles > > > means, the non-sense of worldly behavior. > > > > > > Concerning duality.... > > > There is only one possible duality. > > > The one who is/live/dream/feel a worldly life....ignoring his/her > > > real nature, means changless, formless and infinite Self....live > in > > > duality. > > > > > > The one who is aware of Self ...is free. > > > The one who isn't, live in duality...means, isn't free. > > > > > > Duality happen from time to time....depending on the level of > > > ignorance, means of ego-mind. > > > > > > Liberation always Is. > > > It doesn't happen for nobody. * > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > * except for special someones....who take their little imaginary > > ego- > > > mind for the Self > > > > > > > ...is this your own experience...or is it something you learned... > > to me at least...the words you are using...sounds kind of > parroting... > > as if you have read and copied some texts from somewhere... > > I clould of course be wrong on this one... > > but...please...try to explain to me as if I was a ten year old...in > a > > simple way...so that I can understand...the core of your > > understanding...and please use your own words... > > ...iietsa > > > > it wouldn't make any sense if i would copy some words somewhere.... > > there are enough people doing this....and still don't understand what > they have read in their fantastic books....about/from whatever > strange (pseudo) Gurus > > i'm using my words....and i'm talking about my perception, that's all > > i don't expect anybody to completely understand what i'm writing... > > that is Not the reason i'm writing... > > (as i told you in messages before....what is the main use of messages) > > .... > > i don't feel to make some effort....trying to write in other manner > and words.... > > sorry about > > Marc > but somehow there is an effort... even if its a subtle effort...its there... maby this " i don't feel to make some effort....trying to write in other manner and words.... " are a effort to cover that there is no real understanding? ....iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > its been a while since last time so to speak... > > > > > > > > my life-film is still on from moment to moment...but I do > > > not > > > > > > give > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > value or importance to it...so its like it is slowly > > > > > > > > disappearing...like a man and his world transforming into > > a > > > > > goast > > > > > > > or a > > > > > > > > shadow... > > > > > > > > and the (inner) glow...who I am...without the body (or > > the > > > > ego- > > > > > > > me)...is > > > > > > > > appearing to shine brighter and brighter...not that it is > > > > > > > so...because > > > > > > > > it is ever full-shining.... > > > > > > > > its more like when I cling or give values to the material > > > > > > > world...those > > > > > > > > values transforms from goasts or shadows into the world > > and > > > > > > > everything.. > > > > > > > > and this everything covers the pure light of the Self... > > > > > > > > and this is what is going on everywhere so to speak...the > > > man > > > > > > that > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > really awake starts dreaming...and takes the dream to be > > > > > > reality... > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > look like a message....written for our beloved bbb... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who is bbb? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's just another fiction of this your mentionned " pure > > light > > > > of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > Self " .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whatever you do and write....it will always be for & from > > this > > > > your > > > > > > Self > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing else > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you train the body-it will become strong... > > > > > > if you dont train the body-it will become weak... > > > > > > a strong body = a body...a weak body = a body... > > > > > > and its the same with mind...or anything... > > > > > > ...if the body is weak...it is not enough to think or > > say " the > > > > body > > > > > > is strong " ...that is only stupid....its like going to a > > hungry > > > > lion > > > > > > with a piece of bread... > > > > > > I offer only words here....nothing else... > > > > > > words that can show you the way to the gates of liberation... > > > > > > you can do what you want with the words... > > > > > > from " liberation " they are absolutely meaningless... > > > > > > but from bondage the can be helpful... > > > > > > so, instead of being against what I write... > > > > > > try to be more creative and write some helpful words to the > > > ones > > > > > that > > > > > > are not yet realized in pure freedom... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seem that you have/got a well trained mind so....for some > > > reason.... > > > > > > > > > > i'm not against with what you write.....i tried to show you > > that > > > > > there are No interests from bbb to this you mentionned " words > > > that > > > > > can show the way to the gates of liberation " .... > > > > > > > > > > even Not...after endless exchanges and words that you exchanged > > > > with > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > first of all, this Your words are mentionned to/from > > > YourSelf....as > > > > i > > > > > told you....there is nothing else. > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > there is No bbb, seperated to You.....to whom You need to give > > > any > > > > > precious informations.... > > > > > > > > > > there is only an appearent other one....due to this your > > working > > > > > (trained) ego-mind > > > > > > > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > > if there were some awareness....You would have great fun with > > > this > > > > > appearent bbb....instead to get worry about anybodies " way to > > > > > liberation " > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see your point... > > > > but as I myself used to take myself for what I am not... > > > > lets call it...that I was blind thinking I could see... > > > > I understand that this appearant illusion was not only on (my) > > > mind... > > > > ...the one Self that is forever now...has somehow forgotten its > > > > core...and attuned itself to its drawings...so to speak...in many > > > > places...and because of this we have what we > > > > call...separation...duality...and when one takes oneself for such > > a > > > > part...(even if it is just a dream)...it creates the so called > > > > dreamer that is living a so called life...(what I try to say is > > > that > > > > all is one...but in a cloudy way it is taken by the ignorant mind > > > to > > > > be many).... > > > > I can never help another...one can only help oneself... > > > > but if I have the repice for a fantastic cake...why not give the > > > > repice (to all my friends)... > > > > some will say...fu** the repice...I just want the cake... > > > > but the cake is seldom tasted without knowing the repice... > > > > (only accidentaly...as it was for me...I tasted the cake and > > > suddenly > > > > it was gone...no more cake left...and I had no repice)... > > > > the recipe is all...if there is missing only one tiny > > > > ingredient...the cake will fail...or if not all the ingredients > > are > > > > treated exact the same...the cake will fail... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > This your " fantastic recipe " is maybe only fantastic for You.... > > > Means everybody enjoy other " fantastic recipe " > > > > > > The popes of all religions strongly believe they " got THE cake > > recipe " > > > One don't need to be an expert to see what is the result of such > > > troubles....all around the world.... > > > means, to understand what is the nature of worldly troubles > > > means, the non-sense of worldly behavior. > > > > > > Concerning duality.... > > > There is only one possible duality. > > > The one who is/live/dream/feel a worldly life....ignoring his/her > > > real nature, means changless, formless and infinite Self....live in > > > duality. > > > > > > The one who is aware of Self ...is free. > > > The one who isn't, live in duality...means, isn't free. > > > > > > Duality happen from time to time....depending on the level of > > > ignorance, means of ego-mind. > > > > > > Liberation always Is. > > > It doesn't happen for nobody. * > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > * except for special someones....who take their little imaginary > > ego- > > > mind for the Self > > > > > > > ...is this your own experience...or is it something you learned... > > to me at least...the words you are using...sounds kind of parroting... > > as if you have read and copied some texts from somewhere... > > I clould of course be wrong on this one... > > but...please...try to explain to me as if I was a ten year old...in a > > simple way...so that I can understand...the core of your > > understanding...and please use your own words... > > ...iietsa > > > you won't understand those either preacher. > > you only want to preach. > > we all understand that. > > .b b.b. > no...we dont all understand that... your " understanding " ...is that everybody understands that... again...theres a difference between the fact and an idea... sorry if I sound like a parrot...but this is basic... ....iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > its been a while since last time so to speak... > > > > > > > > my life-film is still on from moment to moment...but I do > > > not > > > > > > give > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > value or importance to it...so its like it is slowly > > > > > > > > disappearing...like a man and his world transforming into > > a > > > > > goast > > > > > > > or a > > > > > > > > shadow... > > > > > > > > and the (inner) glow...who I am...without the body (or > > the > > > > ego- > > > > > > > me)...is > > > > > > > > appearing to shine brighter and brighter...not that it is > > > > > > > so...because > > > > > > > > it is ever full-shining.... > > > > > > > > its more like when I cling or give values to the material > > > > > > > world...those > > > > > > > > values transforms from goasts or shadows into the world > > and > > > > > > > everything.. > > > > > > > > and this everything covers the pure light of the Self... > > > > > > > > and this is what is going on everywhere so to speak...the > > > man > > > > > > that > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > really awake starts dreaming...and takes the dream to be > > > > > > reality... > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > look like a message....written for our beloved bbb... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who is bbb? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's just another fiction of this your mentionned " pure > > light > > > > of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > Self " .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whatever you do and write....it will always be for & from > > this > > > > your > > > > > > Self > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing else > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you train the body-it will become strong... > > > > > > if you dont train the body-it will become weak... > > > > > > a strong body = a body...a weak body = a body... > > > > > > and its the same with mind...or anything... > > > > > > ...if the body is weak...it is not enough to think or > > say " the > > > > body > > > > > > is strong " ...that is only stupid....its like going to a > > hungry > > > > lion > > > > > > with a piece of bread... > > > > > > I offer only words here....nothing else... > > > > > > words that can show you the way to the gates of liberation... > > > > > > you can do what you want with the words... > > > > > > from " liberation " they are absolutely meaningless... > > > > > > but from bondage the can be helpful... > > > > > > so, instead of being against what I write... > > > > > > try to be more creative and write some helpful words to the > > > ones > > > > > that > > > > > > are not yet realized in pure freedom... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seem that you have/got a well trained mind so....for some > > > reason.... > > > > > > > > > > i'm not against with what you write.....i tried to show you > > that > > > > > there are No interests from bbb to this you mentionned " words > > > that > > > > > can show the way to the gates of liberation " .... > > > > > > > > > > even Not...after endless exchanges and words that you exchanged > > > > with > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > first of all, this Your words are mentionned to/from > > > YourSelf....as > > > > i > > > > > told you....there is nothing else. > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > there is No bbb, seperated to You.....to whom You need to give > > > any > > > > > precious informations.... > > > > > > > > > > there is only an appearent other one....due to this your > > working > > > > > (trained) ego-mind > > > > > > > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > > if there were some awareness....You would have great fun with > > > this > > > > > appearent bbb....instead to get worry about anybodies " way to > > > > > liberation " > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see your point... > > > > but as I myself used to take myself for what I am not... > > > > lets call it...that I was blind thinking I could see... > > > > I understand that this appearant illusion was not only on (my) > > > mind... > > > > ...the one Self that is forever now...has somehow forgotten its > > > > core...and attuned itself to its drawings...so to speak...in many > > > > places...and because of this we have what we > > > > call...separation...duality...and when one takes oneself for such > > a > > > > part...(even if it is just a dream)...it creates the so called > > > > dreamer that is living a so called life...(what I try to say is > > > that > > > > all is one...but in a cloudy way it is taken by the ignorant mind > > > to > > > > be many).... > > > > I can never help another...one can only help oneself... > > > > but if I have the repice for a fantastic cake...why not give the > > > > repice (to all my friends)... > > > > some will say...fu** the repice...I just want the cake... > > > > but the cake is seldom tasted without knowing the repice... > > > > (only accidentaly...as it was for me...I tasted the cake and > > > suddenly > > > > it was gone...no more cake left...and I had no repice)... > > > > the recipe is all...if there is missing only one tiny > > > > ingredient...the cake will fail...or if not all the ingredients > > are > > > > treated exact the same...the cake will fail... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > This your " fantastic recipe " is maybe only fantastic for You.... > > > Means everybody enjoy other " fantastic recipe " > > > > > > The popes of all religions strongly believe they " got THE cake > > recipe " > > > One don't need to be an expert to see what is the result of such > > > troubles....all around the world.... > > > means, to understand what is the nature of worldly troubles > > > means, the non-sense of worldly behavior. > > > > > > Concerning duality.... > > > There is only one possible duality. > > > The one who is/live/dream/feel a worldly life....ignoring his/her > > > real nature, means changless, formless and infinite Self....live in > > > duality. > > > > > > The one who is aware of Self ...is free. > > > The one who isn't, live in duality...means, isn't free. > > > > > > Duality happen from time to time....depending on the level of > > > ignorance, means of ego-mind. > > > > > > Liberation always Is. > > > It doesn't happen for nobody. * > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > * except for special someones....who take their little imaginary > > ego- > > > mind for the Self > > > > > > > ...is this your own experience...or is it something you learned... > > to me at least...the words you are using...sounds kind of parroting... > > as if you have read and copied some texts from somewhere... > > I clould of course be wrong on this one... > > but...please...try to explain to me as if I was a ten year old...in a > > simple way...so that I can understand...the core of your > > understanding...and please use your own words... > > ...iietsa > > > you won't understand those either preacher. > > you only want to preach. > > we all understand that. > > .b b.b. > now this is " real parroting " ... 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Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > its been a while since last time so to speak... > > > > > > > > > my life-film is still on from moment to moment...but > I do > > > > not > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > > value or importance to it...so its like it is slowly > > > > > > > > > disappearing...like a man and his world transforming > into > > > a > > > > > > goast > > > > > > > > or a > > > > > > > > > shadow... > > > > > > > > > and the (inner) glow...who I am...without the body > (or > > > the > > > > > ego- > > > > > > > > me)...is > > > > > > > > > appearing to shine brighter and brighter...not that > it is > > > > > > > > so...because > > > > > > > > > it is ever full-shining.... > > > > > > > > > its more like when I cling or give values to the > material > > > > > > > > world...those > > > > > > > > > values transforms from goasts or shadows into the > world > > > and > > > > > > > > everything.. > > > > > > > > > and this everything covers the pure light of the > Self... > > > > > > > > > and this is what is going on everywhere so to > speak...the > > > > man > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > really awake starts dreaming...and takes the dream to > be > > > > > > > reality... > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > look like a message....written for our beloved bbb... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who is bbb? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's just another fiction of this your mentionned " pure > > > light > > > > > of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Self " .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whatever you do and write....it will always be for & from > > > this > > > > > your > > > > > > > Self > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing else > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you train the body-it will become strong... > > > > > > > if you dont train the body-it will become weak... > > > > > > > a strong body = a body...a weak body = a body... > > > > > > > and its the same with mind...or anything... > > > > > > > ...if the body is weak...it is not enough to think or > > > say " the > > > > > body > > > > > > > is strong " ...that is only stupid....its like going to a > > > hungry > > > > > lion > > > > > > > with a piece of bread... > > > > > > > I offer only words here....nothing else... > > > > > > > words that can show you the way to the gates of > liberation... > > > > > > > you can do what you want with the words... > > > > > > > from " liberation " they are absolutely meaningless... > > > > > > > but from bondage the can be helpful... > > > > > > > so, instead of being against what I write... > > > > > > > try to be more creative and write some helpful words to > the > > > > ones > > > > > > that > > > > > > > are not yet realized in pure freedom... > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seem that you have/got a well trained mind so....for some > > > > reason.... > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm not against with what you write.....i tried to show you > > > that > > > > > > there are No interests from bbb to this you > mentionned " words > > > > that > > > > > > can show the way to the gates of liberation " .... > > > > > > > > > > > > even Not...after endless exchanges and words that you > exchanged > > > > > with > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > first of all, this Your words are mentionned to/from > > > > YourSelf....as > > > > > i > > > > > > told you....there is nothing else. > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > there is No bbb, seperated to You.....to whom You need to > give > > > > any > > > > > > precious informations.... > > > > > > > > > > > > there is only an appearent other one....due to this your > > > working > > > > > > (trained) ego-mind > > > > > > > > > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > if there were some awareness....You would have great fun > with > > > > this > > > > > > appearent bbb....instead to get worry about anybodies " way > to > > > > > > liberation " > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see your point... > > > > > but as I myself used to take myself for what I am not... > > > > > lets call it...that I was blind thinking I could see... > > > > > I understand that this appearant illusion was not only on > (my) > > > > mind... > > > > > ...the one Self that is forever now...has somehow forgotten > its > > > > > core...and attuned itself to its drawings...so to speak...in > many > > > > > places...and because of this we have what we > > > > > call...separation...duality...and when one takes oneself for > such > > > a > > > > > part...(even if it is just a dream)...it creates the so > called > > > > > dreamer that is living a so called life...(what I try to say > is > > > > that > > > > > all is one...but in a cloudy way it is taken by the ignorant > mind > > > > to > > > > > be many).... > > > > > I can never help another...one can only help oneself... > > > > > but if I have the repice for a fantastic cake...why not give > the > > > > > repice (to all my friends)... > > > > > some will say...fu** the repice...I just want the cake... > > > > > but the cake is seldom tasted without knowing the repice... > > > > > (only accidentaly...as it was for me...I tasted the cake and > > > > suddenly > > > > > it was gone...no more cake left...and I had no repice)... > > > > > the recipe is all...if there is missing only one tiny > > > > > ingredient...the cake will fail...or if not all the > ingredients > > > are > > > > > treated exact the same...the cake will fail... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This your " fantastic recipe " is maybe only fantastic for You.... > > > > Means everybody enjoy other " fantastic recipe " > > > > > > > > The popes of all religions strongly believe they " got THE cake > > > recipe " > > > > One don't need to be an expert to see what is the result of > such > > > > troubles....all around the world.... > > > > means, to understand what is the nature of worldly troubles > > > > means, the non-sense of worldly behavior. > > > > > > > > Concerning duality.... > > > > There is only one possible duality. > > > > The one who is/live/dream/feel a worldly life....ignoring > his/her > > > > real nature, means changless, formless and infinite > Self....live in > > > > duality. > > > > > > > > The one who is aware of Self ...is free. > > > > The one who isn't, live in duality...means, isn't free. > > > > > > > > Duality happen from time to time....depending on the level of > > > > ignorance, means of ego-mind. > > > > > > > > Liberation always Is. > > > > It doesn't happen for nobody. * > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * except for special someones....who take their little > imaginary > > > ego- > > > > mind for the Self > > > > > > > > > > ...is this your own experience...or is it something you learned... > > > to me at least...the words you are using...sounds kind of > parroting... > > > as if you have read and copied some texts from somewhere... > > > I clould of course be wrong on this one... > > > but...please...try to explain to me as if I was a ten year > old...in a > > > simple way...so that I can understand...the core of your > > > understanding...and please use your own words... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > you won't understand those either preacher. > > > > you only want to preach. > > > > we all understand that. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > no...we dont all understand that... > your " understanding " ...is that everybody understands that... > again...theres a difference between the fact and an idea... > sorry if I sound like a parrot...but this is basic... > ...iietsa basic to what? your world view and inane idea of what is or isn't spiritual? there are no facts sonny. you believe in... and write about... fairy tales. you don't even make the grade of a parrot. you babble. :-) ..b b.b. 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Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > its been a while since last time so to speak... > > > > > > > > > my life-film is still on from moment to moment...but > I do > > > > not > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > > value or importance to it...so its like it is slowly > > > > > > > > > disappearing...like a man and his world transforming > into > > > a > > > > > > goast > > > > > > > > or a > > > > > > > > > shadow... > > > > > > > > > and the (inner) glow...who I am...without the body > (or > > > the > > > > > ego- > > > > > > > > me)...is > > > > > > > > > appearing to shine brighter and brighter...not that > it is > > > > > > > > so...because > > > > > > > > > it is ever full-shining.... > > > > > > > > > its more like when I cling or give values to the > material > > > > > > > > world...those > > > > > > > > > values transforms from goasts or shadows into the > world > > > and > > > > > > > > everything.. > > > > > > > > > and this everything covers the pure light of the > Self... > > > > > > > > > and this is what is going on everywhere so to > speak...the > > > > man > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > really awake starts dreaming...and takes the dream to > be > > > > > > > reality... > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > look like a message....written for our beloved bbb... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who is bbb? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's just another fiction of this your mentionned " pure > > > light > > > > > of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Self " .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whatever you do and write....it will always be for & from > > > this > > > > > your > > > > > > > Self > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing else > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you train the body-it will become strong... > > > > > > > if you dont train the body-it will become weak... > > > > > > > a strong body = a body...a weak body = a body... > > > > > > > and its the same with mind...or anything... > > > > > > > ...if the body is weak...it is not enough to think or > > > say " the > > > > > body > > > > > > > is strong " ...that is only stupid....its like going to a > > > hungry > > > > > lion > > > > > > > with a piece of bread... > > > > > > > I offer only words here....nothing else... > > > > > > > words that can show you the way to the gates of > liberation... > > > > > > > you can do what you want with the words... > > > > > > > from " liberation " they are absolutely meaningless... > > > > > > > but from bondage the can be helpful... > > > > > > > so, instead of being against what I write... > > > > > > > try to be more creative and write some helpful words to > the > > > > ones > > > > > > that > > > > > > > are not yet realized in pure freedom... > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seem that you have/got a well trained mind so....for some > > > > reason.... > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm not against with what you write.....i tried to show you > > > that > > > > > > there are No interests from bbb to this you > mentionned " words > > > > that > > > > > > can show the way to the gates of liberation " .... > > > > > > > > > > > > even Not...after endless exchanges and words that you > exchanged > > > > > with > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > first of all, this Your words are mentionned to/from > > > > YourSelf....as > > > > > i > > > > > > told you....there is nothing else. > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > there is No bbb, seperated to You.....to whom You need to > give > > > > any > > > > > > precious informations.... > > > > > > > > > > > > there is only an appearent other one....due to this your > > > working > > > > > > (trained) ego-mind > > > > > > > > > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > if there were some awareness....You would have great fun > with > > > > this > > > > > > appearent bbb....instead to get worry about anybodies " way > to > > > > > > liberation " > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see your point... > > > > > but as I myself used to take myself for what I am not... > > > > > lets call it...that I was blind thinking I could see... > > > > > I understand that this appearant illusion was not only on > (my) > > > > mind... > > > > > ...the one Self that is forever now...has somehow forgotten > its > > > > > core...and attuned itself to its drawings...so to speak...in > many > > > > > places...and because of this we have what we > > > > > call...separation...duality...and when one takes oneself for > such > > > a > > > > > part...(even if it is just a dream)...it creates the so > called > > > > > dreamer that is living a so called life...(what I try to say > is > > > > that > > > > > all is one...but in a cloudy way it is taken by the ignorant > mind > > > > to > > > > > be many).... > > > > > I can never help another...one can only help oneself... > > > > > but if I have the repice for a fantastic cake...why not give > the > > > > > repice (to all my friends)... > > > > > some will say...fu** the repice...I just want the cake... > > > > > but the cake is seldom tasted without knowing the repice... > > > > > (only accidentaly...as it was for me...I tasted the cake and > > > > suddenly > > > > > it was gone...no more cake left...and I had no repice)... > > > > > the recipe is all...if there is missing only one tiny > > > > > ingredient...the cake will fail...or if not all the > ingredients > > > are > > > > > treated exact the same...the cake will fail... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This your " fantastic recipe " is maybe only fantastic for You.... > > > > Means everybody enjoy other " fantastic recipe " > > > > > > > > The popes of all religions strongly believe they " got THE cake > > > recipe " > > > > One don't need to be an expert to see what is the result of > such > > > > troubles....all around the world.... > > > > means, to understand what is the nature of worldly troubles > > > > means, the non-sense of worldly behavior. > > > > > > > > Concerning duality.... > > > > There is only one possible duality. > > > > The one who is/live/dream/feel a worldly life....ignoring > his/her > > > > real nature, means changless, formless and infinite > Self....live in > > > > duality. > > > > > > > > The one who is aware of Self ...is free. > > > > The one who isn't, live in duality...means, isn't free. > > > > > > > > Duality happen from time to time....depending on the level of > > > > ignorance, means of ego-mind. > > > > > > > > Liberation always Is. > > > > It doesn't happen for nobody. * > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * except for special someones....who take their little > imaginary > > > ego- > > > > mind for the Self > > > > > > > > > > ...is this your own experience...or is it something you learned... > > > to me at least...the words you are using...sounds kind of > parroting... > > > as if you have read and copied some texts from somewhere... > > > I clould of course be wrong on this one... > > > but...please...try to explain to me as if I was a ten year > old...in a > > > simple way...so that I can understand...the core of your > > > understanding...and please use your own words... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > you won't understand those either preacher. > > > > you only want to preach. > > > > we all understand that. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > now this is " real parroting " ... > HAHA > ...iietsa you obviously have no idea of what the term parroting means. just who or what does that parrot? you ARE a dummy. get a dictionary you little self-duped funny bunny. 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Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > its been a while since last time so to speak... > > > > > > > > > my life-film is still on from moment to moment...but > I > > do > > > > not > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > > value or importance to it...so its like it is slowly > > > > > > > > > disappearing...like a man and his world transforming > > into > > > a > > > > > > goast > > > > > > > > or a > > > > > > > > > shadow... > > > > > > > > > and the (inner) glow...who I am...without the body > (or > > > the > > > > > ego- > > > > > > > > me)...is > > > > > > > > > appearing to shine brighter and brighter...not that > it > > is > > > > > > > > so...because > > > > > > > > > it is ever full-shining.... > > > > > > > > > its more like when I cling or give values to the > > material > > > > > > > > world...those > > > > > > > > > values transforms from goasts or shadows into the > world > > > and > > > > > > > > everything.. > > > > > > > > > and this everything covers the pure light of the > Self... > > > > > > > > > and this is what is going on everywhere so to > > speak...the > > > > man > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > really awake starts dreaming...and takes the dream to > > be > > > > > > > reality... > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > look like a message....written for our beloved bbb... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who is bbb? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's just another fiction of this your mentionned " pure > > > light > > > > > of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Self " .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whatever you do and write....it will always be for & from > > > this > > > > > your > > > > > > > Self > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing else > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you train the body-it will become strong... > > > > > > > if you dont train the body-it will become weak... > > > > > > > a strong body = a body...a weak body = a body... > > > > > > > and its the same with mind...or anything... > > > > > > > ...if the body is weak...it is not enough to think or > > > say " the > > > > > body > > > > > > > is strong " ...that is only stupid....its like going to a > > > hungry > > > > > lion > > > > > > > with a piece of bread... > > > > > > > I offer only words here....nothing else... > > > > > > > words that can show you the way to the gates of > > liberation... > > > > > > > you can do what you want with the words... > > > > > > > from " liberation " they are absolutely meaningless... > > > > > > > but from bondage the can be helpful... > > > > > > > so, instead of being against what I write... > > > > > > > try to be more creative and write some helpful words to > the > > > > ones > > > > > > that > > > > > > > are not yet realized in pure freedom... > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seem that you have/got a well trained mind so....for some > > > > reason.... > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm not against with what you write.....i tried to show you > > > that > > > > > > there are No interests from bbb to this you > mentionned " words > > > > that > > > > > > can show the way to the gates of liberation " .... > > > > > > > > > > > > even Not...after endless exchanges and words that you > > exchanged > > > > > with > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > first of all, this Your words are mentionned to/from > > > > YourSelf....as > > > > > i > > > > > > told you....there is nothing else. > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > there is No bbb, seperated to You.....to whom You need to > > give > > > > any > > > > > > precious informations.... > > > > > > > > > > > > there is only an appearent other one....due to this your > > > working > > > > > > (trained) ego-mind > > > > > > > > > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > if there were some awareness....You would have great fun > with > > > > this > > > > > > appearent bbb....instead to get worry about anybodies " way > to > > > > > > liberation " > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see your point... > > > > > but as I myself used to take myself for what I am not... > > > > > lets call it...that I was blind thinking I could see... > > > > > I understand that this appearant illusion was not only on > (my) > > > > mind... > > > > > ...the one Self that is forever now...has somehow forgotten > its > > > > > core...and attuned itself to its drawings...so to speak...in > > many > > > > > places...and because of this we have what we > > > > > call...separation...duality...and when one takes oneself for > > such > > > a > > > > > part...(even if it is just a dream)...it creates the so > called > > > > > dreamer that is living a so called life...(what I try to say > is > > > > that > > > > > all is one...but in a cloudy way it is taken by the ignorant > > mind > > > > to > > > > > be many).... > > > > > I can never help another...one can only help oneself... > > > > > but if I have the repice for a fantastic cake...why not give > > the > > > > > repice (to all my friends)... > > > > > some will say...fu** the repice...I just want the cake... > > > > > but the cake is seldom tasted without knowing the repice... > > > > > (only accidentaly...as it was for me...I tasted the cake and > > > > suddenly > > > > > it was gone...no more cake left...and I had no repice)... > > > > > the recipe is all...if there is missing only one tiny > > > > > ingredient...the cake will fail...or if not all the > ingredients > > > are > > > > > treated exact the same...the cake will fail... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This your " fantastic recipe " is maybe only fantastic for You.... > > > > Means everybody enjoy other " fantastic recipe " > > > > > > > > The popes of all religions strongly believe they " got THE cake > > > recipe " > > > > One don't need to be an expert to see what is the result of > such > > > > troubles....all around the world.... > > > > means, to understand what is the nature of worldly troubles > > > > means, the non-sense of worldly behavior. > > > > > > > > Concerning duality.... > > > > There is only one possible duality. > > > > The one who is/live/dream/feel a worldly life....ignoring > his/her > > > > real nature, means changless, formless and infinite > Self....live > > in > > > > duality. > > > > > > > > The one who is aware of Self ...is free. > > > > The one who isn't, live in duality...means, isn't free. > > > > > > > > Duality happen from time to time....depending on the level of > > > > ignorance, means of ego-mind. > > > > > > > > Liberation always Is. > > > > It doesn't happen for nobody. * > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * except for special someones....who take their little > imaginary > > > ego- > > > > mind for the Self > > > > > > > > > > ...is this your own experience...or is it something you learned... > > > to me at least...the words you are using...sounds kind of > > parroting... > > > as if you have read and copied some texts from somewhere... > > > I clould of course be wrong on this one... > > > but...please...try to explain to me as if I was a ten year > old...in > > a > > > simple way...so that I can understand...the core of your > > > understanding...and please use your own words... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > it wouldn't make any sense if i would copy some words somewhere.... > > > > there are enough people doing this....and still don't understand > what > > they have read in their fantastic books....about/from whatever > > strange (pseudo) Gurus > > > > i'm using my words....and i'm talking about my perception, that's > all > > > > i don't expect anybody to completely understand what i'm writing... > > > > that is Not the reason i'm writing... > > > > (as i told you in messages before....what is the main use of > messages) > > > > .... > > > > i don't feel to make some effort....trying to write in other manner > > and words.... > > > > sorry about > > > > Marc > > > > but somehow there is an effort... > even if its a subtle effort...its there... > maby this " i don't feel to make some effort....trying to write in > other manner and words.... " are a effort to cover that there is no > real understanding? > ...iietsa no. you don't understand what he said at all. you are pathetic. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " new00@ " <new00@> wrote: > > > > Since my husband passed away in May, I've had all the drama I need > in my > > life, without inviting drama in from outside forces. > > > > I apologize if you thought my email was judgmental. It was > definitely a > > personal observation, based on my perception of an email exchange > between > > you and b.b.b. I actually belong to several other and > have > > never found problems in any of them, because I do not look for > problems. > > But, it is difficult not to observe what is presented. Then again, > I > > haven't seen the type of exchange that you and b.b.b. have engaged > in on > > any other about spiritual teachings. That is not to > say that > > they do not disagree or that there are not passionate discussions > and > > disagreements, but I've never seen the type of name calling that > I've seen > > here. > > > > I'll go back to watching the exchange of insults between you and > b.b.b. and > > look for the lesson therein. > > > > Oh, and if I need a " lesson " from you, I'll be sure to ask for it. > Until > > then, you are awfully presumptious. And I'm quite sure that lesson > #1 in > > any study would not be to sit back and " enjoy " the drama. Observe > yes, > > enjoy....??? > > > > Nanette > > > > > > if I am awfully presumptious to you...then its your own creation... > not everybody is disturbed by my and b.b.b. conversation... > ...maby its just you who adds something extra... > ...iietsa that's an ignorant presumption on your part. she's right on the money. whenevr someone is right.. you con't understand. fact is.. you don't understand sweet f*** all 'I'ietsa boy. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " new00@ " <new00@> wrote: > > > > Since my husband passed away in May, I've had all the drama I need > in my > > life, without inviting drama in from outside forces. > > > > I apologize if you thought my email was judgmental. It was > definitely a > > personal observation, based on my perception of an email exchange > between > > you and b.b.b. I actually belong to several other and > have > > never found problems in any of them, because I do not look for > problems. > > But, it is difficult not to observe what is presented. Then again, > I > > haven't seen the type of exchange that you and b.b.b. have engaged > in on > > any other about spiritual teachings. That is not to > say that > > they do not disagree or that there are not passionate discussions > and > > disagreements, but I've never seen the type of name calling that > I've seen > > here. > > > > I'll go back to watching the exchange of insults between you and > b.b.b. and > > look for the lesson therein. > > > > Oh, and if I need a " lesson " from you, I'll be sure to ask for it. > Until > > then, you are awfully presumptious. And I'm quite sure that lesson > #1 in > > any study would not be to sit back and " enjoy " the drama. Observe > yes, > > enjoy....??? > > > > Nanette > > > > > > if I am awfully presumptious to you...then its your own creation... > not everybody is disturbed by my and b.b.b. conversation... > ...maby its just you who adds something extra... > ...iietsa > .....If one is distured then all are disturbed. And we each add something extra, the key is to try not to subtract. Nanette Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > its been a while since last time so to speak... > > > > > > > > > > my life-film is still on from moment to moment...but > > I do > > > > > not > > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > > > value or importance to it...so its like it is slowly > > > > > > > > > > disappearing...like a man and his world transforming > > into > > > > a > > > > > > > goast > > > > > > > > > or a > > > > > > > > > > shadow... > > > > > > > > > > and the (inner) glow...who I am...without the body > > (or > > > > the > > > > > > ego- > > > > > > > > > me)...is > > > > > > > > > > appearing to shine brighter and brighter...not that > > it is > > > > > > > > > so...because > > > > > > > > > > it is ever full-shining.... > > > > > > > > > > its more like when I cling or give values to the > > material > > > > > > > > > world...those > > > > > > > > > > values transforms from goasts or shadows into the > > world > > > > and > > > > > > > > > everything.. > > > > > > > > > > and this everything covers the pure light of the > > Self... > > > > > > > > > > and this is what is going on everywhere so to > > speak...the > > > > > man > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > really awake starts dreaming...and takes the dream to > > be > > > > > > > > reality... > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > look like a message....written for our beloved bbb... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who is bbb? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's just another fiction of this your mentionned " pure > > > > light > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Self " .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whatever you do and write....it will always be for & from > > > > this > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > Self > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing else > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you train the body-it will become strong... > > > > > > > > if you dont train the body-it will become weak... > > > > > > > > a strong body = a body...a weak body = a body... > > > > > > > > and its the same with mind...or anything... > > > > > > > > ...if the body is weak...it is not enough to think or > > > > say " the > > > > > > body > > > > > > > > is strong " ...that is only stupid....its like going to a > > > > hungry > > > > > > lion > > > > > > > > with a piece of bread... > > > > > > > > I offer only words here....nothing else... > > > > > > > > words that can show you the way to the gates of > > liberation... > > > > > > > > you can do what you want with the words... > > > > > > > > from " liberation " they are absolutely meaningless... > > > > > > > > but from bondage the can be helpful... > > > > > > > > so, instead of being against what I write... > > > > > > > > try to be more creative and write some helpful words to > > the > > > > > ones > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > are not yet realized in pure freedom... > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seem that you have/got a well trained mind so....for some > > > > > reason.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm not against with what you write.....i tried to show you > > > > that > > > > > > > there are No interests from bbb to this you > > mentionned " words > > > > > that > > > > > > > can show the way to the gates of liberation " .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even Not...after endless exchanges and words that you > > exchanged > > > > > > with > > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first of all, this Your words are mentionned to/from > > > > > YourSelf....as > > > > > > i > > > > > > > told you....there is nothing else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is No bbb, seperated to You.....to whom You need to > > give > > > > > any > > > > > > > precious informations.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is only an appearent other one....due to this your > > > > working > > > > > > > (trained) ego-mind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if there were some awareness....You would have great fun > > with > > > > > this > > > > > > > appearent bbb....instead to get worry about anybodies " way > > to > > > > > > > liberation " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see your point... > > > > > > but as I myself used to take myself for what I am not... > > > > > > lets call it...that I was blind thinking I could see... > > > > > > I understand that this appearant illusion was not only on > > (my) > > > > > mind... > > > > > > ...the one Self that is forever now...has somehow forgotten > > its > > > > > > core...and attuned itself to its drawings...so to speak...in > > many > > > > > > places...and because of this we have what we > > > > > > call...separation...duality...and when one takes oneself for > > such > > > > a > > > > > > part...(even if it is just a dream)...it creates the so > > called > > > > > > dreamer that is living a so called life...(what I try to say > > is > > > > > that > > > > > > all is one...but in a cloudy way it is taken by the ignorant > > mind > > > > > to > > > > > > be many).... > > > > > > I can never help another...one can only help oneself... > > > > > > but if I have the repice for a fantastic cake...why not give > > the > > > > > > repice (to all my friends)... > > > > > > some will say...fu** the repice...I just want the cake... > > > > > > but the cake is seldom tasted without knowing the repice... > > > > > > (only accidentaly...as it was for me...I tasted the cake and > > > > > suddenly > > > > > > it was gone...no more cake left...and I had no repice)... > > > > > > the recipe is all...if there is missing only one tiny > > > > > > ingredient...the cake will fail...or if not all the > > ingredients > > > > are > > > > > > treated exact the same...the cake will fail... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This your " fantastic recipe " is maybe only fantastic for You.... > > > > > Means everybody enjoy other " fantastic recipe " > > > > > > > > > > The popes of all religions strongly believe they " got THE cake > > > > recipe " > > > > > One don't need to be an expert to see what is the result of > > such > > > > > troubles....all around the world.... > > > > > means, to understand what is the nature of worldly troubles > > > > > means, the non-sense of worldly behavior. > > > > > > > > > > Concerning duality.... > > > > > There is only one possible duality. > > > > > The one who is/live/dream/feel a worldly life....ignoring > > his/her > > > > > real nature, means changless, formless and infinite > > Self....live in > > > > > duality. > > > > > > > > > > The one who is aware of Self ...is free. > > > > > The one who isn't, live in duality...means, isn't free. > > > > > > > > > > Duality happen from time to time....depending on the level of > > > > > ignorance, means of ego-mind. > > > > > > > > > > Liberation always Is. > > > > > It doesn't happen for nobody. * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * except for special someones....who take their little > > imaginary > > > > ego- > > > > > mind for the Self > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...is this your own experience...or is it something you learned... > > > > to me at least...the words you are using...sounds kind of > > parroting... > > > > as if you have read and copied some texts from somewhere... > > > > I clould of course be wrong on this one... > > > > but...please...try to explain to me as if I was a ten year > > old...in a > > > > simple way...so that I can understand...the core of your > > > > understanding...and please use your own words... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > you won't understand those either preacher. > > > > > > you only want to preach. > > > > > > we all understand that. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > now this is " real parroting " ... > > HAHA > > ...iietsa > > > you obviously have no idea of what the term parroting means. > > just who or what does that parrot? > > you ARE a dummy. > > get a dictionary you little self-duped funny bunny. > > ROFLMAO! > > .b bobji baba > a bird with a talent to repeat what it has been learned to repeat... ....iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > its been a while since last time so to speak... > > > > > > > > > > my life-film is still on from moment to moment...but > > I > > > do > > > > > not > > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > > > value or importance to it...so its like it is slowly > > > > > > > > > > disappearing...like a man and his world transforming > > > into > > > > a > > > > > > > goast > > > > > > > > > or a > > > > > > > > > > shadow... > > > > > > > > > > and the (inner) glow...who I am...without the body > > (or > > > > the > > > > > > ego- > > > > > > > > > me)...is > > > > > > > > > > appearing to shine brighter and brighter...not that > > it > > > is > > > > > > > > > so...because > > > > > > > > > > it is ever full-shining.... > > > > > > > > > > its more like when I cling or give values to the > > > material > > > > > > > > > world...those > > > > > > > > > > values transforms from goasts or shadows into the > > world > > > > and > > > > > > > > > everything.. > > > > > > > > > > and this everything covers the pure light of the > > Self... > > > > > > > > > > and this is what is going on everywhere so to > > > speak...the > > > > > man > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > really awake starts dreaming...and takes the dream to > > > be > > > > > > > > reality... > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > look like a message....written for our beloved bbb... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who is bbb? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's just another fiction of this your mentionned " pure > > > > light > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Self " .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whatever you do and write....it will always be for & from > > > > this > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > Self > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing else > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you train the body-it will become strong... > > > > > > > > if you dont train the body-it will become weak... > > > > > > > > a strong body = a body...a weak body = a body... > > > > > > > > and its the same with mind...or anything... > > > > > > > > ...if the body is weak...it is not enough to think or > > > > say " the > > > > > > body > > > > > > > > is strong " ...that is only stupid....its like going to a > > > > hungry > > > > > > lion > > > > > > > > with a piece of bread... > > > > > > > > I offer only words here....nothing else... > > > > > > > > words that can show you the way to the gates of > > > liberation... > > > > > > > > you can do what you want with the words... > > > > > > > > from " liberation " they are absolutely meaningless... > > > > > > > > but from bondage the can be helpful... > > > > > > > > so, instead of being against what I write... > > > > > > > > try to be more creative and write some helpful words to > > the > > > > > ones > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > are not yet realized in pure freedom... > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seem that you have/got a well trained mind so....for some > > > > > reason.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm not against with what you write.....i tried to show you > > > > that > > > > > > > there are No interests from bbb to this you > > mentionned " words > > > > > that > > > > > > > can show the way to the gates of liberation " .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even Not...after endless exchanges and words that you > > > exchanged > > > > > > with > > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first of all, this Your words are mentionned to/from > > > > > YourSelf....as > > > > > > i > > > > > > > told you....there is nothing else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is No bbb, seperated to You.....to whom You need to > > > give > > > > > any > > > > > > > precious informations.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is only an appearent other one....due to this your > > > > working > > > > > > > (trained) ego-mind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if there were some awareness....You would have great fun > > with > > > > > this > > > > > > > appearent bbb....instead to get worry about anybodies " way > > to > > > > > > > liberation " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see your point... > > > > > > but as I myself used to take myself for what I am not... > > > > > > lets call it...that I was blind thinking I could see... > > > > > > I understand that this appearant illusion was not only on > > (my) > > > > > mind... > > > > > > ...the one Self that is forever now...has somehow forgotten > > its > > > > > > core...and attuned itself to its drawings...so to speak...in > > > many > > > > > > places...and because of this we have what we > > > > > > call...separation...duality...and when one takes oneself for > > > such > > > > a > > > > > > part...(even if it is just a dream)...it creates the so > > called > > > > > > dreamer that is living a so called life...(what I try to say > > is > > > > > that > > > > > > all is one...but in a cloudy way it is taken by the ignorant > > > mind > > > > > to > > > > > > be many).... > > > > > > I can never help another...one can only help oneself... > > > > > > but if I have the repice for a fantastic cake...why not give > > > the > > > > > > repice (to all my friends)... > > > > > > some will say...fu** the repice...I just want the cake... > > > > > > but the cake is seldom tasted without knowing the repice... > > > > > > (only accidentaly...as it was for me...I tasted the cake and > > > > > suddenly > > > > > > it was gone...no more cake left...and I had no repice)... > > > > > > the recipe is all...if there is missing only one tiny > > > > > > ingredient...the cake will fail...or if not all the > > ingredients > > > > are > > > > > > treated exact the same...the cake will fail... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This your " fantastic recipe " is maybe only fantastic for You.... > > > > > Means everybody enjoy other " fantastic recipe " > > > > > > > > > > The popes of all religions strongly believe they " got THE cake > > > > recipe " > > > > > One don't need to be an expert to see what is the result of > > such > > > > > troubles....all around the world.... > > > > > means, to understand what is the nature of worldly troubles > > > > > means, the non-sense of worldly behavior. > > > > > > > > > > Concerning duality.... > > > > > There is only one possible duality. > > > > > The one who is/live/dream/feel a worldly life....ignoring > > his/her > > > > > real nature, means changless, formless and infinite > > Self....live > > > in > > > > > duality. > > > > > > > > > > The one who is aware of Self ...is free. > > > > > The one who isn't, live in duality...means, isn't free. > > > > > > > > > > Duality happen from time to time....depending on the level of > > > > > ignorance, means of ego-mind. > > > > > > > > > > Liberation always Is. > > > > > It doesn't happen for nobody. * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * except for special someones....who take their little > > imaginary > > > > ego- > > > > > mind for the Self > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...is this your own experience...or is it something you learned... > > > > to me at least...the words you are using...sounds kind of > > > parroting... > > > > as if you have read and copied some texts from somewhere... > > > > I clould of course be wrong on this one... > > > > but...please...try to explain to me as if I was a ten year > > old...in > > > a > > > > simple way...so that I can understand...the core of your > > > > understanding...and please use your own words... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > it wouldn't make any sense if i would copy some words somewhere.... > > > > > > there are enough people doing this....and still don't understand > > what > > > they have read in their fantastic books....about/from whatever > > > strange (pseudo) Gurus > > > > > > i'm using my words....and i'm talking about my perception, that's > > all > > > > > > i don't expect anybody to completely understand what i'm writing... > > > > > > that is Not the reason i'm writing... > > > > > > (as i told you in messages before....what is the main use of > > messages) > > > > > > .... > > > > > > i don't feel to make some effort....trying to write in other manner > > > and words.... > > > > > > sorry about > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > but somehow there is an effort... > > even if its a subtle effort...its there... > > maby this " i don't feel to make some effort....trying to write in > > other manner and words.... " are a effort to cover that there is no > > real understanding? > > ...iietsa > > > no. > > you don't understand what he said at all. > > you are pathetic. > > .b b.b. > are you saying...to not understand = pathetic ? ....or are just babbling... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Nanette " <new00 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " new00@ " <new00@> wrote: > > > > > > Since my husband passed away in May, I've had all the drama I > need > > in my > > > life, without inviting drama in from outside forces. > > > > > > I apologize if you thought my email was judgmental. It was > > definitely a > > > personal observation, based on my perception of an email exchange > > between > > > you and b.b.b. I actually belong to several other > and > > have > > > never found problems in any of them, because I do not look for > > problems. > > > But, it is difficult not to observe what is presented. Then > again, > > I > > > haven't seen the type of exchange that you and b.b.b. have > engaged > > in on > > > any other about spiritual teachings. That is not to > > say that > > > they do not disagree or that there are not passionate discussions > > and > > > disagreements, but I've never seen the type of name calling that > > I've seen > > > here. > > > > > > I'll go back to watching the exchange of insults between you and > > b.b.b. and > > > look for the lesson therein. > > > > > > Oh, and if I need a " lesson " from you, I'll be sure to ask for > it. > > Until > > > then, you are awfully presumptious. And I'm quite sure that > lesson > > #1 in > > > any study would not be to sit back and " enjoy " the drama. > Observe > > yes, > > > enjoy....??? > > > > > > Nanette > > > > > > > > > > if I am awfully presumptious to you...then its your own creation... > > not everybody is disturbed by my and b.b.b. conversation... > > ...maby its just you who adds something extra... > > ...iietsa > > > > ....If one is distured then all are disturbed. And we each add > something extra, the key is to try not to subtract. > > Nanette > ....but...if I am awfully presumptious to you... cant you see that this itself is to subtract ?... ....iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sniparooni<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > > you won't understand those either preacher. > > > > > > > > you only want to preach. > > > > > > > > we all understand that. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > now this is " real parroting " ... > > > HAHA > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > you obviously have no idea of what the term parroting means. > > > > just who or what does that parrot? > > > > you ARE a dummy. > > > > get a dictionary you little self-duped funny bunny. > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > a bird with a talent to repeat what it has been learned to repeat... uh huh. good boy. you must have taken the advice regarding the dictionary. but you forgot about the " ing " on the end. that's a verb form. you're just giving the definition of the noun re: a usually brightly colored zygodactyl tropical bird.. with a short hooked beak and the ability to mimic sounds. but we can't expect perfection from our little guy. so now.. where before did i say: " you won't understand those either preacher. you only want to preach. we all understand that. " from where was this phrase copied or repeated from? are you hearing or seeing things that aren't there? don't answer that. we know that you are. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Nanette " <new00@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " new00@ " <new00@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Since my husband passed away in May, I've had all the drama I > > need > > > in my > > > > life, without inviting drama in from outside forces. > > > > > > > > I apologize if you thought my email was judgmental. It was > > > definitely a > > > > personal observation, based on my perception of an email > exchange > > > between > > > > you and b.b.b. I actually belong to several other groups > > and > > > have > > > > never found problems in any of them, because I do not look for > > > problems. > > > > But, it is difficult not to observe what is presented. Then > > again, > > > I > > > > haven't seen the type of exchange that you and b.b.b. have > > engaged > > > in on > > > > any other about spiritual teachings. That is not > to > > > say that > > > > they do not disagree or that there are not passionate > discussions > > > and > > > > disagreements, but I've never seen the type of name calling > that > > > I've seen > > > > here. > > > > > > > > I'll go back to watching the exchange of insults between you > and > > > b.b.b. and > > > > look for the lesson therein. > > > > > > > > Oh, and if I need a " lesson " from you, I'll be sure to ask for > > it. > > > Until > > > > then, you are awfully presumptious. And I'm quite sure that > > lesson > > > #1 in > > > > any study would not be to sit back and " enjoy " the drama. > > Observe > > > yes, > > > > enjoy....??? > > > > > > > > Nanette > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if I am awfully presumptious to you...then its your own > creation... > > > not everybody is disturbed by my and b.b.b. conversation... > > > ...maby its just you who adds something extra... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > ....If one is distured then all are disturbed. And we each add > > something extra, the key is to try not to subtract. > > > > Nanette > > > > ...but...if I am awfully presumptious to you... > cant you see that this itself is to subtract ?... > ...iietsa > Methinks you are one very confused individual. Allow me to ask you to read your own words: if I am awfully presumptious to you...then its your own > creation... > > > not everybody is disturbed by my and b.b.b. conversation... > > > ...maby its just you who adds something extra... > > > ...iietsa Now iietsa...You first say that my presumption is the result of adding something extra and now you say it's subtracting. My observation would be that you are drowning in a quagmire of your own confusion. To continue this conversation with you would be similar to throwing a drowning man a block of concrete, so I will do the kind thing and simply disengage from this conversation. Nanette Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sniparooni<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > > > > > > > > you won't understand those either preacher. > > > > > > > > > > you only want to preach. > > > > > > > > > > we all understand that. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > now this is " real parroting " ... > > > > HAHA > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > you obviously have no idea of what the term parroting means. > > > > > > just who or what does that parrot? > > > > > > you ARE a dummy. > > > > > > get a dictionary you little self-duped funny bunny. > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > a bird with a talent to repeat what it has been learned to repeat... > > > > > > uh huh. > > good boy. > > you must have taken the advice regarding the dictionary. > > but you forgot about the " ing " on the end. > > that's a verb form. > > you're just giving the definition of the noun re: > > a usually brightly colored zygodactyl tropical bird.. > > with a short hooked beak and the ability to mimic sounds. > > but we can't expect perfection from our little guy. > > so now.. > > where before did i say: > > " you won't understand those either preacher. > > you only want to preach. > > we all understand that. " > > from where was this phrase copied or repeated from? > > are you hearing or seeing things that aren't there? > > don't answer that. > > we know that you are. > > LOL! > > .b b.b. > slow donw your babbling...and check out your post 63873 and your post 63874 ....iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Nanette " <new00@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " new00@ " <new00@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Since my husband passed away in May, I've had all the drama I > > need > > > in my > > > > life, without inviting drama in from outside forces. > > > > > > > > I apologize if you thought my email was judgmental. It was > > > definitely a > > > > personal observation, based on my perception of an email > exchange > > > between > > > > you and b.b.b. I actually belong to several other > > and > > > have > > > > never found problems in any of them, because I do not look for > > > problems. > > > > But, it is difficult not to observe what is presented. Then > > again, > > > I > > > > haven't seen the type of exchange that you and b.b.b. have > > engaged > > > in on > > > > any other about spiritual teachings. That is not > to > > > say that > > > > they do not disagree or that there are not passionate > discussions > > > and > > > > disagreements, but I've never seen the type of name calling > that > > > I've seen > > > > here. > > > > > > > > I'll go back to watching the exchange of insults between you > and > > > b.b.b. and > > > > look for the lesson therein. > > > > > > > > Oh, and if I need a " lesson " from you, I'll be sure to ask for > > it. > > > Until > > > > then, you are awfully presumptious. And I'm quite sure that > > lesson > > > #1 in > > > > any study would not be to sit back and " enjoy " the drama. > > Observe > > > yes, > > > > enjoy....??? > > > > > > > > Nanette > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if I am awfully presumptious to you...then its your own > creation... > > > not everybody is disturbed by my and b.b.b. conversation... > > > ...maby its just you who adds something extra... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > ....If one is distured then all are disturbed. And we each add > > something extra, the key is to try not to subtract. > > > > Nanette > > > > ...but...if I am awfully presumptious to you... > cant you see that this itself is to subtract ?... > ...iietsa obviously you don't perceive the idea mentally.. that's to be expected in your case. but.. you can't see it any other way either. you are 180 degrees off base. you are wrong. you're adding to what she said. no key for you! ..b b.b. (the key nazi) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Nanette " <new00 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Nanette " <new00@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " new00@ " <new00@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Since my husband passed away in May, I've had all the drama I > > > need > > > > in my > > > > > life, without inviting drama in from outside forces. > > > > > > > > > > I apologize if you thought my email was judgmental. It was > > > > definitely a > > > > > personal observation, based on my perception of an email > > exchange > > > > between > > > > > you and b.b.b. I actually belong to several other > groups > > > and > > > > have > > > > > never found problems in any of them, because I do not look > for > > > > problems. > > > > > But, it is difficult not to observe what is presented. Then > > > again, > > > > I > > > > > haven't seen the type of exchange that you and b.b.b. have > > > engaged > > > > in on > > > > > any other about spiritual teachings. That is not > > to > > > > say that > > > > > they do not disagree or that there are not passionate > > discussions > > > > and > > > > > disagreements, but I've never seen the type of name calling > > that > > > > I've seen > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > I'll go back to watching the exchange of insults between you > > and > > > > b.b.b. and > > > > > look for the lesson therein. > > > > > > > > > > Oh, and if I need a " lesson " from you, I'll be sure to ask > for > > > it. > > > > Until > > > > > then, you are awfully presumptious. And I'm quite sure that > > > lesson > > > > #1 in > > > > > any study would not be to sit back and " enjoy " the drama. > > > Observe > > > > yes, > > > > > enjoy....??? > > > > > > > > > > Nanette > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if I am awfully presumptious to you...then its your own > > creation... > > > > not everybody is disturbed by my and b.b.b. conversation... > > > > ...maby its just you who adds something extra... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > ....If one is distured then all are disturbed. And we each add > > > something extra, the key is to try not to subtract. > > > > > > Nanette > > > > > > > ...but...if I am awfully presumptious to you... > > cant you see that this itself is to subtract ?... > > ...iietsa > > > > Methinks you are one very confused individual. Allow me to ask you > to read your own words: > > > if I am awfully presumptious to you...then its your own > > creation... > > > > not everybody is disturbed by my and b.b.b. conversation... > > > > ...maby its just you who adds something extra... > > > > ...iietsa > > Now iietsa...You first say that my presumption is the result of > adding something extra and now you say it's subtracting. > > My observation would be that you are drowning in a quagmire of your > own confusion. > > To continue this conversation with you would be similar to throwing a > drowning man a block of concrete, so I will do the kind thing and > simply disengage from this conversation. > > Nanette > adding and subtracting is the same thing...only two different sides... in my point of view...the key is to ubderstand that neither adding nor subtrcting is possible...its all illusion... ....iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Nanette " <new00@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " new00@ " <new00@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Since my husband passed away in May, I've had all the drama I > > > need > > > > in my > > > > > life, without inviting drama in from outside forces. > > > > > > > > > > I apologize if you thought my email was judgmental. It was > > > > definitely a > > > > > personal observation, based on my perception of an email > > exchange > > > > between > > > > > you and b.b.b. I actually belong to several other groups > > > and > > > > have > > > > > never found problems in any of them, because I do not look for > > > > problems. > > > > > But, it is difficult not to observe what is presented. Then > > > again, > > > > I > > > > > haven't seen the type of exchange that you and b.b.b. have > > > engaged > > > > in on > > > > > any other about spiritual teachings. That is not > > to > > > > say that > > > > > they do not disagree or that there are not passionate > > discussions > > > > and > > > > > disagreements, but I've never seen the type of name calling > > that > > > > I've seen > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > I'll go back to watching the exchange of insults between you > > and > > > > b.b.b. and > > > > > look for the lesson therein. > > > > > > > > > > Oh, and if I need a " lesson " from you, I'll be sure to ask for > > > it. > > > > Until > > > > > then, you are awfully presumptious. And I'm quite sure that > > > lesson > > > > #1 in > > > > > any study would not be to sit back and " enjoy " the drama. > > > Observe > > > > yes, > > > > > enjoy....??? > > > > > > > > > > Nanette > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if I am awfully presumptious to you...then its your own > > creation... > > > > not everybody is disturbed by my and b.b.b. conversation... > > > > ...maby its just you who adds something extra... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > ....If one is distured then all are disturbed. And we each add > > > something extra, the key is to try not to subtract. > > > > > > Nanette > > > > > > > ...but...if I am awfully presumptious to you... > > cant you see that this itself is to subtract ?... > > ...iietsa > > > > > obviously you don't perceive the idea mentally.. > > that's to be expected in your case. > > but.. > > you can't see it any other way either. > > you are 180 degrees off base. > > you are wrong. > > you're adding to what she said. > > no key for you! > > .b b.b. > > (the key nazi) > you two seem to get along very good...now its just the rest of the world that is your problem...haha ....iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > <iietsa@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sniparooni<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you won't understand those either preacher. > > > > > > > > > > > > you only want to preach. > > > > > > > > > > > > we all understand that. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now this is " real parroting " ... > > > > > HAHA > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > you obviously have no idea of what the term parroting means. > > > > > > > > just who or what does that parrot? > > > > > > > > you ARE a dummy. > > > > > > > > get a dictionary you little self-duped funny bunny. > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > > > > > a bird with a talent to repeat what it has been learned to > repeat... > > > > > > > > > > > > uh huh. > > > > good boy. > > > > you must have taken the advice regarding the dictionary. > > > > but you forgot about the " ing " on the end. > > > > that's a verb form. > > > > you're just giving the definition of the noun re: > > > > a usually brightly colored zygodactyl tropical bird.. > > > > with a short hooked beak and the ability to mimic sounds. > > > > but we can't expect perfection from our little guy. > > > > so now.. > > > > where before did i say: > > > > " you won't understand those either preacher. > > > > you only want to preach. > > > > we all understand that. " > > > > from where was this phrase copied or repeated from? > > > > are you hearing or seeing things that aren't there? > > > > don't answer that. > > > > we know that you are. > > > > LOL! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > slow donw your babbling...and check out your post 63873 and your post > 63874 > ...iietsa i don't know how to slow 'donw.' i haven't the slightest idea what it means. 63873 and 63874 were the same post. did that not me. you need to get up to speed son. whatever you do don't slow down. you're already almost stopped. hey..what is to 'slow donw' anyway? what are you babbling about? LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Nanette " <new00@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Nanette " <new00@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " new00@ " <new00@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Since my husband passed away in May, I've had all the drama I > > > > need > > > > > in my > > > > > > life, without inviting drama in from outside forces. > > > > > > > > > > > > I apologize if you thought my email was judgmental. It was > > > > > definitely a > > > > > > personal observation, based on my perception of an email > > > exchange > > > > > between > > > > > > you and b.b.b. I actually belong to several other > > groups > > > > and > > > > > have > > > > > > never found problems in any of them, because I do not look > > for > > > > > problems. > > > > > > But, it is difficult not to observe what is presented. Then > > > > again, > > > > > I > > > > > > haven't seen the type of exchange that you and b.b.b. have > > > > engaged > > > > > in on > > > > > > any other about spiritual teachings. That is not > > > to > > > > > say that > > > > > > they do not disagree or that there are not passionate > > > discussions > > > > > and > > > > > > disagreements, but I've never seen the type of name calling > > > that > > > > > I've seen > > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll go back to watching the exchange of insults between you > > > and > > > > > b.b.b. and > > > > > > look for the lesson therein. > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, and if I need a " lesson " from you, I'll be sure to ask > > for > > > > it. > > > > > Until > > > > > > then, you are awfully presumptious. And I'm quite sure that > > > > lesson > > > > > #1 in > > > > > > any study would not be to sit back and " enjoy " the drama. > > > > Observe > > > > > yes, > > > > > > enjoy....??? > > > > > > > > > > > > Nanette > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if I am awfully presumptious to you...then its your own > > > creation... > > > > > not everybody is disturbed by my and b.b.b. conversation... > > > > > ...maby its just you who adds something extra... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....If one is distured then all are disturbed. And we each add > > > > something extra, the key is to try not to subtract. > > > > > > > > Nanette > > > > > > > > > > ...but...if I am awfully presumptious to you... > > > cant you see that this itself is to subtract ?... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > Methinks you are one very confused individual. Allow me to ask you > > to read your own words: > > > > > > if I am awfully presumptious to you...then its your own > > > creation... > > > > > not everybody is disturbed by my and b.b.b. conversation... > > > > > ...maby its just you who adds something extra... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > Now iietsa...You first say that my presumption is the result of > > adding something extra and now you say it's subtracting. > > > > My observation would be that you are drowning in a quagmire of your > > own confusion. > > > > To continue this conversation with you would be similar to throwing a > > drowning man a block of concrete, so I will do the kind thing and > > simply disengage from this conversation. > > > > Nanette > > > you're too kind Nanette. > > he loves it. > > he keeps coming back for more. > > :-) > > .b b.b. > There's a biblical scripture that says something like: When I was a child, I thought as a child, I spoke as a child, I acted as a child. When I became a man, I set aside childish things. I no longer play with children (with the exception of my great- grandchildren), especially those who have to adjust their words after they are spoken in order to give the illusion to themselves that they have acquired some type of victory. When the ego is demonstrated as being ever present, it is best to allow it to play alone. It will manufacture whatever it requires for its survival. I'm actually not normally so kind, but I actually feel a great deal of sympathy for iietsa. He/She is one mixed up child. Nanette Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Nanette " <new00@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Nanette " <new00@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " new00@ " <new00@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Since my husband passed away in May, I've had all the drama I > > > > need > > > > > in my > > > > > > life, without inviting drama in from outside forces. > > > > > > > > > > > > I apologize if you thought my email was judgmental. It was > > > > > definitely a > > > > > > personal observation, based on my perception of an email > > > exchange > > > > > between > > > > > > you and b.b.b. I actually belong to several other > > groups > > > > and > > > > > have > > > > > > never found problems in any of them, because I do not look > > for > > > > > problems. > > > > > > But, it is difficult not to observe what is presented. Then > > > > again, > > > > > I > > > > > > haven't seen the type of exchange that you and b.b.b. have > > > > engaged > > > > > in on > > > > > > any other about spiritual teachings. That is not > > > to > > > > > say that > > > > > > they do not disagree or that there are not passionate > > > discussions > > > > > and > > > > > > disagreements, but I've never seen the type of name calling > > > that > > > > > I've seen > > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll go back to watching the exchange of insults between you > > > and > > > > > b.b.b. and > > > > > > look for the lesson therein. > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, and if I need a " lesson " from you, I'll be sure to ask > > for > > > > it. > > > > > Until > > > > > > then, you are awfully presumptious. And I'm quite sure that > > > > lesson > > > > > #1 in > > > > > > any study would not be to sit back and " enjoy " the drama. > > > > Observe > > > > > yes, > > > > > > enjoy....??? > > > > > > > > > > > > Nanette > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if I am awfully presumptious to you...then its your own > > > creation... > > > > > not everybody is disturbed by my and b.b.b. conversation... > > > > > ...maby its just you who adds something extra... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....If one is distured then all are disturbed. And we each add > > > > something extra, the key is to try not to subtract. > > > > > > > > Nanette > > > > > > > > > > ...but...if I am awfully presumptious to you... > > > cant you see that this itself is to subtract ?... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > Methinks you are one very confused individual. Allow me to ask you > > to read your own words: > > > > > > if I am awfully presumptious to you...then its your own > > > creation... > > > > > not everybody is disturbed by my and b.b.b. conversation... > > > > > ...maby its just you who adds something extra... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > Now iietsa...You first say that my presumption is the result of > > adding something extra and now you say it's subtracting. > > > > My observation would be that you are drowning in a quagmire of your > > own confusion. > > > > To continue this conversation with you would be similar to throwing a > > drowning man a block of concrete, so I will do the kind thing and > > simply disengage from this conversation. > > > > Nanette > > > you're too kind Nanette. > > he loves it. > > he keeps coming back for more. > > :-) > > .b b.b. > its been a while since last time... but I can see you still own that fishing skill... ....iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Nanette " <new00@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Nanette " <new00@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " new00@ " <new00@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Since my husband passed away in May, I've had all the drama > I > > > > need > > > > > in my > > > > > > life, without inviting drama in from outside forces. > > > > > > > > > > > > I apologize if you thought my email was judgmental. It was > > > > > definitely a > > > > > > personal observation, based on my perception of an email > > > exchange > > > > > between > > > > > > you and b.b.b. I actually belong to several other > > groups > > > > and > > > > > have > > > > > > never found problems in any of them, because I do not look > > for > > > > > problems. > > > > > > But, it is difficult not to observe what is presented. > Then > > > > again, > > > > > I > > > > > > haven't seen the type of exchange that you and b.b.b. have > > > > engaged > > > > > in on > > > > > > any other about spiritual teachings. That is > not > > > to > > > > > say that > > > > > > they do not disagree or that there are not passionate > > > discussions > > > > > and > > > > > > disagreements, but I've never seen the type of name calling > > > that > > > > > I've seen > > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll go back to watching the exchange of insults between > you > > > and > > > > > b.b.b. and > > > > > > look for the lesson therein. > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, and if I need a " lesson " from you, I'll be sure to ask > > for > > > > it. > > > > > Until > > > > > > then, you are awfully presumptious. And I'm quite sure > that > > > > lesson > > > > > #1 in > > > > > > any study would not be to sit back and " enjoy " the drama. > > > > Observe > > > > > yes, > > > > > > enjoy....??? > > > > > > > > > > > > Nanette > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if I am awfully presumptious to you...then its your own > > > creation... > > > > > not everybody is disturbed by my and b.b.b. conversation... > > > > > ...maby its just you who adds something extra... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....If one is distured then all are disturbed. And we each add > > > > something extra, the key is to try not to subtract. > > > > > > > > Nanette > > > > > > > > > > ...but...if I am awfully presumptious to you... > > > cant you see that this itself is to subtract ?... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > Methinks you are one very confused individual. Allow me to ask you > > to read your own words: > > > > > > if I am awfully presumptious to you...then its your own > > > creation... > > > > > not everybody is disturbed by my and b.b.b. conversation... > > > > > ...maby its just you who adds something extra... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > Now iietsa...You first say that my presumption is the result of > > adding something extra and now you say it's subtracting. > > > > My observation would be that you are drowning in a quagmire of your > > own confusion. > > > > To continue this conversation with you would be similar to throwing > a > > drowning man a block of concrete, so I will do the kind thing and > > simply disengage from this conversation. > > > > Nanette > > > > adding and subtracting is the same thing...only two different sides... > in my point of view...the key is to ubderstand that neither adding > nor subtrcting is possible...its all illusion... > ...iietsa why talk about it then? what is the key to " ubderstandinmg " ? (haha!) what is the opposite of " subtrcting " ? (ho ho) i think you're saying it all about what you're all about. it's not a pretty picture. we wish it was an illusion.. but no.. it's " I " ietsa..the magic nitwit. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Nanette " <new00@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " new00@ " <new00@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Since my husband passed away in May, I've had all the drama > I > > > > need > > > > > in my > > > > > > life, without inviting drama in from outside forces. > > > > > > > > > > > > I apologize if you thought my email was judgmental. It was > > > > > definitely a > > > > > > personal observation, based on my perception of an email > > > exchange > > > > > between > > > > > > you and b.b.b. I actually belong to several other > groups > > > > and > > > > > have > > > > > > never found problems in any of them, because I do not look > for > > > > > problems. > > > > > > But, it is difficult not to observe what is presented. > Then > > > > again, > > > > > I > > > > > > haven't seen the type of exchange that you and b.b.b. have > > > > engaged > > > > > in on > > > > > > any other about spiritual teachings. That is > not > > > to > > > > > say that > > > > > > they do not disagree or that there are not passionate > > > discussions > > > > > and > > > > > > disagreements, but I've never seen the type of name calling > > > that > > > > > I've seen > > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll go back to watching the exchange of insults between > you > > > and > > > > > b.b.b. and > > > > > > look for the lesson therein. > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, and if I need a " lesson " from you, I'll be sure to ask > for > > > > it. > > > > > Until > > > > > > then, you are awfully presumptious. And I'm quite sure > that > > > > lesson > > > > > #1 in > > > > > > any study would not be to sit back and " enjoy " the drama. > > > > Observe > > > > > yes, > > > > > > enjoy....??? > > > > > > > > > > > > Nanette > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if I am awfully presumptious to you...then its your own > > > creation... > > > > > not everybody is disturbed by my and b.b.b. conversation... > > > > > ...maby its just you who adds something extra... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....If one is distured then all are disturbed. And we each add > > > > something extra, the key is to try not to subtract. > > > > > > > > Nanette > > > > > > > > > > ...but...if I am awfully presumptious to you... > > > cant you see that this itself is to subtract ?... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > obviously you don't perceive the idea mentally.. > > > > that's to be expected in your case. > > > > but.. > > > > you can't see it any other way either. > > > > you are 180 degrees off base. > > > > you are wrong. > > > > you're adding to what she said. > > > > no key for you! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > (the key nazi) > > > > you two seem to get along very good...now its just the rest of the > world that is your problem...haha > ...iietsa you still believe in problems? poor kid. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Nanette " <new00 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Nanette " <new00@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Nanette " <new00@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " new00@ " <new00@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since my husband passed away in May, I've had all the > drama I > > > > > need > > > > > > in my > > > > > > > life, without inviting drama in from outside forces. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I apologize if you thought my email was judgmental. It > was > > > > > > definitely a > > > > > > > personal observation, based on my perception of an email > > > > exchange > > > > > > between > > > > > > > you and b.b.b. I actually belong to several other > > > groups > > > > > and > > > > > > have > > > > > > > never found problems in any of them, because I do not > look > > > for > > > > > > problems. > > > > > > > But, it is difficult not to observe what is presented. > Then > > > > > again, > > > > > > I > > > > > > > haven't seen the type of exchange that you and b.b.b. > have > > > > > engaged > > > > > > in on > > > > > > > any other about spiritual teachings. That is > not > > > > to > > > > > > say that > > > > > > > they do not disagree or that there are not passionate > > > > discussions > > > > > > and > > > > > > > disagreements, but I've never seen the type of name > calling > > > > that > > > > > > I've seen > > > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll go back to watching the exchange of insults between > you > > > > and > > > > > > b.b.b. and > > > > > > > look for the lesson therein. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, and if I need a " lesson " from you, I'll be sure to > ask > > > for > > > > > it. > > > > > > Until > > > > > > > then, you are awfully presumptious. And I'm quite sure > that > > > > > lesson > > > > > > #1 in > > > > > > > any study would not be to sit back and " enjoy " the > drama. > > > > > Observe > > > > > > yes, > > > > > > > enjoy....??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nanette > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if I am awfully presumptious to you...then its your own > > > > creation... > > > > > > not everybody is disturbed by my and b.b.b. conversation... > > > > > > ...maby its just you who adds something extra... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....If one is distured then all are disturbed. And we each > add > > > > > something extra, the key is to try not to subtract. > > > > > > > > > > Nanette > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...but...if I am awfully presumptious to you... > > > > cant you see that this itself is to subtract ?... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > Methinks you are one very confused individual. Allow me to ask > you > > > to read your own words: > > > > > > > > > if I am awfully presumptious to you...then its your own > > > > creation... > > > > > > not everybody is disturbed by my and b.b.b. conversation... > > > > > > ...maby its just you who adds something extra... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > Now iietsa...You first say that my presumption is the result of > > > adding something extra and now you say it's subtracting. > > > > > > My observation would be that you are drowning in a quagmire of > your > > > own confusion. > > > > > > To continue this conversation with you would be similar to > throwing a > > > drowning man a block of concrete, so I will do the kind thing and > > > simply disengage from this conversation. > > > > > > Nanette > > > > > > you're too kind Nanette. > > > > he loves it. > > > > he keeps coming back for more. > > > > :-) > > > > .b b.b. > > > > There's a biblical scripture that says something like: > > When I was a child, I thought as a child, I spoke as a child, I acted > as a child. When I became a man, I set aside childish things. > > I no longer play with children (with the exception of my great- > grandchildren), especially those who have to adjust their words after > they are spoken in order to give the illusion to themselves that they > have acquired some type of victory. When the ego is demonstrated as > being ever present, it is best to allow it to play alone. It will > manufacture whatever it requires for its survival. > > I'm actually not normally so kind, but I actually feel a great deal > of sympathy for iietsa. He/She is one mixed up child. > > Nanette :-) ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sniparooni<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you won't understand those either preacher. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you only want to preach. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we all understand that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now this is " real parroting " ... > > > > > > HAHA > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you obviously have no idea of what the term parroting means. > > > > > > > > > > just who or what does that parrot? > > > > > > > > > > you ARE a dummy. > > > > > > > > > > get a dictionary you little self-duped funny bunny. > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a bird with a talent to repeat what it has been learned to > > repeat... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uh huh. > > > > > > good boy. > > > > > > you must have taken the advice regarding the dictionary. > > > > > > but you forgot about the " ing " on the end. > > > > > > that's a verb form. > > > > > > you're just giving the definition of the noun re: > > > > > > a usually brightly colored zygodactyl tropical bird.. > > > > > > with a short hooked beak and the ability to mimic sounds. > > > > > > but we can't expect perfection from our little guy. > > > > > > so now.. > > > > > > where before did i say: > > > > > > " you won't understand those either preacher. > > > > > > you only want to preach. > > > > > > we all understand that. " > > > > > > from where was this phrase copied or repeated from? > > > > > > are you hearing or seeing things that aren't there? > > > > > > don't answer that. > > > > > > we know that you are. > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > slow donw your babbling...and check out your post 63873 and your post > > 63874 > > ...iietsa > > > i don't know how to slow 'donw.' > > i haven't the slightest idea what it means. > > 63873 and 63874 were the same post. > > did that not me. > > you need to get up to speed son. > > whatever you do don't slow down. > > you're already almost stopped. > > hey..what is to 'slow donw' anyway? > > what are you babbling about? > > LOL! > > .b b.b. > haha... I am not moving at all... so it is impossible to slow down... ....iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
