Guest guest Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > > > > > > >B: gosh pete.. > > > > if you look back CLOSELY at message # 60004.. > > > > you will note that .b bobji baboon was referring to Gautama Buddha.. > > > > not Nisargadatta.. > > P: Bad memory, or dishonesty? > > Check message 59631 > > > > > P: How do you know what God is, or is not? This again is just your > belief. > > Many contemplatives, including Nis have said the Absolute is not > > aware of itself. > > > > B: how do you know what he knows or doesn't know petie? > > you're not everyone...and thank god not everyone is you. > > fuck nisargadatta..he's a dead little brown monkey. > > he didn't know everything even if you think he did. > > P: Does Hur considers that helpful, Is that respect > for the guro he loves in a list dedicated to him? > > It doesn't bother me, I just consider it odd. yesiree bob! petie is the best message counter and looker-upper on lists. good for you peter! and no..it's not respectful of the " guro' OR the guru. Odd that you find that odd. is that helpful regarding THAT? that respect thing? Nisargadatta must be rolling in his grave. you should respect that.. and forget 'personal missions' against phantoms like .b bobji b. 'you' are a phantom too peter..and a monkey. why fight Nature and Truth? you wouldn't have lasted long in the smoky upper room. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > you wouldn't have lasted long in the smoky upper room. > > LOL! > > .b b.b. P: Indeed! I didn't. See below: The Day I Thanked Nis By Pete The dismal alley stank of sewage and garbage. As I approached the house, a stray dog slunk away, its eyes full of fear. It was an emaciated young dog, almost a puppy. Stray dogs don't grow old in Bombay. I gave a sigh of relief as I entered the narrow stairwell smelling of dust and cheap incense. Going up, the steps groaned menacingly under my weight. In a small second floor room sat an old man dressed in white. The massive head with prominent cheekbones seemed misplaced on his frail body. The moment I entered, he opened his eyes and stared at me without surprise, or any hint of inquiry. The eyes dwarfed the head, as the head did the body. From then on, I only saw the piercing eyes, as if, disembodied, they floated in the room's penumbra. After my salutation, he gestured toward a cushion. " Where do you come from? " he asked. " I come from the future. " He laughed, and his chest rumbled with phlegm. The laugh sputtered, and then, exploded into a fitful cough. " I have no future. " he said in a strangled voice. " Your words do. In the future your words will be read by millions. They will liberate hundreds of people. " " They are not my words, and I'm not interested in those imaginary hundreds. Have those words liberated you? " " Yes, they have, and I thank you. " He laughed again, but cut it short and clearing his throat with a painful grimace, said, " If you were truly liberated, would there be any need to thank someone who never existed? " Now was my turn to laugh. " Yes, I see what you mean. That would be the only way liberation could work. To liberate one individual at a time is a hopeless task. Once the dreamer awakes, all the dream characters are seen as unreal. " " Nevertheless, you are still trying to awaken the characters in the dream, " he said. " Yes, I am. Does it mean that I'm not awake yet? " " You are dreaming that you are awake, the dream still goes on. " " But wait, you are fully awake and you still teach. " " I exist and teach only in your dream. " " So, when will the dream end? " " The day the body dies. " " You mean I had no need to study and meditate all these years that I could have had any dream I wanted? " " No. There is no 'you' apart from the dream, and there is no other dream, but this one. " " Well, If I am the dream, I will that you get well, and live as long as I do. " He laughed and began to cough again. " Get out, " he yelled. " You're an idiot. Get out. Out! " His cough echoed behind me as I hurried downstairs. enlightenedstories > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > you wouldn't have lasted long in the smoky upper room. > > > > LOL! > > > > .b b.b. > > P: Indeed! I didn't. > > See below: > > The Day I Thanked Nis > > By Pete > > > The dismal alley stank of sewage and garbage. As I approached > the house, a stray dog slunk away, its eyes full of fear. It was > an emaciated young dog, almost a puppy. Stray dogs don't grow > old in Bombay. I gave a sigh of relief as I entered the narrow > stairwell smelling of dust and cheap incense. Going up, the > steps groaned menacingly under my weight. > > In a small second floor room sat an old man dressed in white. > The massive head with prominent cheekbones seemed > misplaced on his frail body. The moment I entered, he opened > his eyes and stared at me without surprise, or any hint of inquiry. > The eyes dwarfed the head, as the head did the body. From then > on, I only saw the piercing eyes, as if, disembodied, they floated > in the room's penumbra. After my salutation, he gestured toward > a cushion. > > " Where do you come from? " he asked. > > " I come from the future. " > > He laughed, and his chest rumbled with phlegm. The laugh > sputtered, and then, exploded into a fitful cough. > > " I have no future. " he said in a strangled voice. > > " Your words do. In the future your words will be read by millions. > They will liberate hundreds of people. " > > " They are not my words, and I'm not interested in those imaginary > hundreds. Have those words liberated you? " > > " Yes, they have, and I thank you. " > > He laughed again, but cut it short and clearing his throat with a > painful grimace, said, " If you were truly liberated, would there be > any need to thank someone who never existed? " > > Now was my turn to laugh. " Yes, I see what you mean. That would > be the only way liberation could work. To liberate one individual at > a time is a hopeless task. Once the dreamer awakes, all the dream > characters are seen as unreal. " > > " Nevertheless, you are still trying to awaken the characters in the > dream, " he said. > > " Yes, I am. Does it mean that I'm not awake yet? " > > " You are dreaming that you are awake, the dream still goes on. " > > " But wait, you are fully awake and you still teach. " > > " I exist and teach only in your dream. " > > " So, when will the dream end? " > > " The day the body dies. " > > " You mean I had no need to study and meditate all these years > that I could have had any dream I wanted? " > > " No. There is no 'you' apart from the dream, and there is no > other dream, but this one. " > > " Well, If I am the dream, I will that you get well, and live as long > as I do. " > > He laughed and began to cough again. " Get out, " he yelled. " You're > an idiot. Get out. Out! " > > His cough echoed behind me as I hurried downstairs. > > enlightenedstories well now..that's what you call being respectful to Nis? LOL! you take words so personally peter! and time after time..as ol' blue eyes sang: " what good are words I say to you? they can't convey to you whats in my heart if you could hear instead the things Ive left unsaid time after time i tell myself that im so lucky to be loving you so lucky to be the one you run to see in the evening, when the day is through i only know what I know The passing years will show you've kept my love so young, so new and time after time you'll hear me say that i'm so lucky to be loving you. " now isn't that being civil as you demand on the other list? i mean..i'm being as civil as one can be.. to one so full of horse-feathers as to come up with that yarn above. excuse me while i cough. :-) ..b b.b. p.s. i believe sincerely petie.. that the only one you are interested in being shown respect.. IS petie. that's a hard nut to crack pal! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 27, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > you wouldn't have lasted long in the smoky upper room. > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > P: Indeed! I didn't. > > > > See below: > > > > The Day I Thanked Nis > > > > By Pete > > > > > > The dismal alley stank of sewage and garbage. As I approached > > the house, a stray dog slunk away, its eyes full of fear. It was > > an emaciated young dog, almost a puppy. Stray dogs don't grow > > old in Bombay. I gave a sigh of relief as I entered the narrow > > stairwell smelling of dust and cheap incense. Going up, the > > steps groaned menacingly under my weight. > > > > In a small second floor room sat an old man dressed in white. > > The massive head with prominent cheekbones seemed > > misplaced on his frail body. The moment I entered, he opened > > his eyes and stared at me without surprise, or any hint of inquiry. > > The eyes dwarfed the head, as the head did the body. From then > > on, I only saw the piercing eyes, as if, disembodied, they floated > > in the room's penumbra. After my salutation, he gestured toward > > a cushion. > > > > " Where do you come from? " he asked. > > > > " I come from the future. " > > > > He laughed, and his chest rumbled with phlegm. The laugh > > sputtered, and then, exploded into a fitful cough. > > > > " I have no future. " he said in a strangled voice. > > > > " Your words do. In the future your words will be read by millions. > > They will liberate hundreds of people. " > > > > " They are not my words, and I'm not interested in those imaginary > > hundreds. Have those words liberated you? " > > > > " Yes, they have, and I thank you. " > > > > He laughed again, but cut it short and clearing his throat with a > > painful grimace, said, " If you were truly liberated, would there be > > any need to thank someone who never existed? " > > > > Now was my turn to laugh. " Yes, I see what you mean. That would > > be the only way liberation could work. To liberate one individual at > > a time is a hopeless task. Once the dreamer awakes, all the dream > > characters are seen as unreal. " > > > > " Nevertheless, you are still trying to awaken the characters in the > > dream, " he said. > > > > " Yes, I am. Does it mean that I'm not awake yet? " > > > > " You are dreaming that you are awake, the dream still goes on. " > > > > " But wait, you are fully awake and you still teach. " > > > > " I exist and teach only in your dream. " > > > > " So, when will the dream end? " > > > > " The day the body dies. " > > > > " You mean I had no need to study and meditate all these years > > that I could have had any dream I wanted? " > > > > " No. There is no 'you' apart from the dream, and there is no > > other dream, but this one. " > > > > " Well, If I am the dream, I will that you get well, and live as long > > as I do. " > > > > He laughed and began to cough again. " Get out, " he yelled. " You're > > an idiot. Get out. Out! " > > > > His cough echoed behind me as I hurried downstairs. > > > > enlightenedstories > > > > > well now..that's what you call being respectful to Nis? > > LOL! > > you take words so personally peter! > > and time after time..as ol' blue eyes sang: > > " what good are words I say to you? > they can't convey to you whats in my heart > if you could hear instead > the things Ive left unsaid > > time after time > i tell myself that im > so lucky to be loving you > > so lucky to be > the one you run to see > in the evening, when the day is through > > i only know what I know > The passing years will show > you've kept my love so young, so new > > and time after time > you'll hear me say that i'm > so lucky to be loving you. " > > now isn't that being civil as you demand on the other list? > > i mean..i'm being as civil as one can be.. > > to one so full of horse-feathers as to come up with that yarn above. > > excuse me while i cough. > > :-) > > .b b.b. > > p.s. > > i believe sincerely petie.. > > that the only one you are interested in being shown respect.. > > IS petie. > > that's a hard nut to crack pal! > Dunno about the respect thingy, gentlemen; it seems to be another pitch of " different strokes for different folks " . Now days kids seem to go to schools shooting one another because of some perceived lack of respect. I digress. It's been almost 3 years since I had a weird sensation of tasting cigarettes (this after cutting out cigs for almost 30 years). And here I was/am, didn't know of Niz or his famous beedies. Some things are just unexplainable, aren't they? I am snowed in in Ohio, huge drifts of snow. Weird too how the snow has been pounding us towards the end of winter. That, however, can be explained by global warming, el nina, pinta and the santa maria. Oops wrong vogage. Love to All, Anna Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 27, 2008 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > you wouldn't have lasted long in the smoky upper room. > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > P: Indeed! I didn't. > > > > > > See below: > > > > > > The Day I Thanked Nis > > > > > > By Pete > > > > > > > > > The dismal alley stank of sewage and garbage. As I approached > > > the house, a stray dog slunk away, its eyes full of fear. It was > > > an emaciated young dog, almost a puppy. Stray dogs don't grow > > > old in Bombay. I gave a sigh of relief as I entered the narrow > > > stairwell smelling of dust and cheap incense. Going up, the > > > steps groaned menacingly under my weight. > > > > > > In a small second floor room sat an old man dressed in white. > > > The massive head with prominent cheekbones seemed > > > misplaced on his frail body. The moment I entered, he opened > > > his eyes and stared at me without surprise, or any hint of inquiry. > > > The eyes dwarfed the head, as the head did the body. From then > > > on, I only saw the piercing eyes, as if, disembodied, they floated > > > in the room's penumbra. After my salutation, he gestured toward > > > a cushion. > > > > > > " Where do you come from? " he asked. > > > > > > " I come from the future. " > > > > > > He laughed, and his chest rumbled with phlegm. The laugh > > > sputtered, and then, exploded into a fitful cough. > > > > > > " I have no future. " he said in a strangled voice. > > > > > > " Your words do. In the future your words will be read by millions. > > > They will liberate hundreds of people. " > > > > > > " They are not my words, and I'm not interested in those imaginary > > > hundreds. Have those words liberated you? " > > > > > > " Yes, they have, and I thank you. " > > > > > > He laughed again, but cut it short and clearing his throat with a > > > painful grimace, said, " If you were truly liberated, would there be > > > any need to thank someone who never existed? " > > > > > > Now was my turn to laugh. " Yes, I see what you mean. That would > > > be the only way liberation could work. To liberate one individual at > > > a time is a hopeless task. Once the dreamer awakes, all the dream > > > characters are seen as unreal. " > > > > > > " Nevertheless, you are still trying to awaken the characters in the > > > dream, " he said. > > > > > > " Yes, I am. Does it mean that I'm not awake yet? " > > > > > > " You are dreaming that you are awake, the dream still goes on. " > > > > > > " But wait, you are fully awake and you still teach. " > > > > > > " I exist and teach only in your dream. " > > > > > > " So, when will the dream end? " > > > > > > " The day the body dies. " > > > > > > " You mean I had no need to study and meditate all these years > > > that I could have had any dream I wanted? " > > > > > > " No. There is no 'you' apart from the dream, and there is no > > > other dream, but this one. " > > > > > > " Well, If I am the dream, I will that you get well, and live as long > > > as I do. " > > > > > > He laughed and began to cough again. " Get out, " he yelled. " You're > > > an idiot. Get out. Out! " > > > > > > His cough echoed behind me as I hurried downstairs. > > > > > > enlightenedstories > > > > > > > > > > well now..that's what you call being respectful to Nis? > > > > LOL! > > > > you take words so personally peter! > > > > and time after time..as ol' blue eyes sang: > > > > " what good are words I say to you? > > they can't convey to you whats in my heart > > if you could hear instead > > the things Ive left unsaid > > > > time after time > > i tell myself that im > > so lucky to be loving you > > > > so lucky to be > > the one you run to see > > in the evening, when the day is through > > > > i only know what I know > > The passing years will show > > you've kept my love so young, so new > > > > and time after time > > you'll hear me say that i'm > > so lucky to be loving you. " > > > > now isn't that being civil as you demand on the other list? > > > > i mean..i'm being as civil as one can be.. > > > > to one so full of horse-feathers as to come up with that yarn above. > > > > excuse me while i cough. > > > > :-) > > > > .b b.b. > > > > p.s. > > > > i believe sincerely petie.. > > > > that the only one you are interested in being shown respect.. > > > > IS petie. > > > > that's a hard nut to crack pal! > > > > > Dunno about the respect thingy, gentlemen; it seems to be another > pitch of " different strokes for different folks " . Now days kids seem > to go to schools shooting one another because of some perceived lack > of respect. I digress. > > It's been almost 3 years since I had a weird sensation of tasting > cigarettes (this after cutting out cigs for almost 30 years). > > And here I was/am, didn't know of Niz or his famous beedies. Some > things are just unexplainable, aren't they? > > I am snowed in in Ohio, huge drifts of snow. Weird too how the snow > has been pounding us towards the end of winter. That, however, can be > explained by global warming, el nina, pinta and the santa maria. Oops > wrong vogage. > > Love to All, > Anna now i can respect that anna. same snow mountains on this side of ol' Erie. bitingly cold. but walking out on frozen Pigeon Bay.. with only the sound of wind and crunching overlays.. a singular lacustrine fisherman dreams of sun, waves and boats.. and yet.. those fishies below.. can be baited and taken up through a hole even now. and they taste as sweet as in the summertime. those sacred and ritual communion wafers! alone in the shanty, baba knows and he knows.. as the snow blows and she blows.. the end of winter is nigh. within dreams and through mists of breath.. glimmers and shimmers of the ol' woolgathering death.. winterized in an ending sigh. and the fish couldn't care less about seasons or reasons. unlike Aretha.. or little chimps with inferiority complexes.. they ask not for R-E-S-P-E-C-T. and soon...very soon.. it will be time to boogie... to jump from free water and trip the light fantastic. ..b b.b. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 29, 2008 I have been a newbie to non-duality for about an year, I have read a lot of the most popular books, and listened to a lot of the teachers on non-duality, and to tell you the truth, I trust b.b.b. more than them because he can be, totally honest, something I still can not do, still attached to the shadow ego. just another no-one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " gary tison " <juliusw007 wrote: > > I have been a newbie to non-duality for about an year, I have read a lot of the most popular books, and listened to a lot of the teachers on non-duality, and to tell you the truth, I trust b.b.b. more than them because he can be, totally honest, something I still can not do, still attached to the shadow ego. just another no-one. > dont take the mind for two... that is...one trusting part, and another non-trusting part... its the same coin even if it appears as two sides... if you do not understand that the mind is only one... then all kinds of wrong-going is most possible... and from there the labyrinth is a prison... ....iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 29, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " gary tison " <juliusw007@> > wrote: > > > > I have been a newbie to non-duality for about an year, I have read > a lot of the most popular books, and listened to a lot of the teachers > on non-duality, and to tell you the truth, I trust b.b.b. more than > them because he can be, totally honest, something I still can not do, > still attached to the shadow ego. just another no-one. > > > > dont take the mind for two... > that is...one trusting part, and another non-trusting part... > its the same coin even if it appears as two sides... > if you do not understand that the mind is only one... > then all kinds of wrong-going is most possible... > and from there the labyrinth is a prison... > ...iietsa who is this that understands? a labyrinth for who? you make what is one two. you do not understand. your wrongdoing is thinking that you understand anything. you are in a jail house maze of your own device. is that nice? ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 1, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " gary tison " <juliusw007@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I have been a newbie to non-duality for about an year, I have read > > a lot of the most popular books, and listened to a lot of the teachers > > on non-duality, and to tell you the truth, I trust b.b.b. more than > > them because he can be, totally honest, something I still can not do, > > still attached to the shadow ego. just another no-one. > > > > > > > dont take the mind for two... > > that is...one trusting part, and another non-trusting part... > > its the same coin even if it appears as two sides... > > if you do not understand that the mind is only one... > > then all kinds of wrong-going is most possible... > > and from there the labyrinth is a prison... > > ...iietsa > > > who is this that understands? > > a labyrinth for who? > > you make what is one two. > > you do not understand. > > your wrongdoing is thinking that you understand anything. > > you are in a jail house maze of your own device. > > is that nice? > > .b b.b. > where I am nothing is nice or ugly... there is no freedom and no prison... but if there is identification with the body or th mind, all kinds of misunderstanding is growing... what you take me for is only the mind of your own observation playing tricks and deluding your false eye.... ....iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 1, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " gary tison " <juliusw007@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I have been a newbie to non-duality for about an year, I have > read > > > a lot of the most popular books, and listened to a lot of the > teachers > > > on non-duality, and to tell you the truth, I trust b.b.b. more > than > > > them because he can be, totally honest, something I still can not > do, > > > still attached to the shadow ego. just another no-one. > > > > > > > > > > dont take the mind for two... > > > that is...one trusting part, and another non-trusting part... > > > its the same coin even if it appears as two sides... > > > if you do not understand that the mind is only one... > > > then all kinds of wrong-going is most possible... > > > and from there the labyrinth is a prison... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > who is this that understands? > > > > a labyrinth for who? > > > > you make what is one two. > > > > you do not understand. > > > > your wrongdoing is thinking that you understand anything. > > > > you are in a jail house maze of your own device. > > > > is that nice? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > where I am nothing is nice or ugly... > there is no freedom and no prison... > but if there is identification with the body or th mind, > all kinds of misunderstanding is growing... > what you take me for is only the mind of your own observation playing > tricks and deluding your false eye.... > ...iietsa if there is an " I " .. or a place for an " I " to be.. 'you' are lost. delusion is yours iietsa. if an I sees the eyes that see.. and the eyes that see.. see the I that so sees... there is nothing but delusional dwelling. too bad about your luck. it MUST be miserable to be phony about that. you have the sympathy of the baba. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 3, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " gary tison " <juliusw007@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have been a newbie to non-duality for about an year, I have > > read > > > > a lot of the most popular books, and listened to a lot of the > > teachers > > > > on non-duality, and to tell you the truth, I trust b.b.b. more > > than > > > > them because he can be, totally honest, something I still can not > > do, > > > > still attached to the shadow ego. just another no-one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > dont take the mind for two... > > > > that is...one trusting part, and another non-trusting part... > > > > its the same coin even if it appears as two sides... > > > > if you do not understand that the mind is only one... > > > > then all kinds of wrong-going is most possible... > > > > and from there the labyrinth is a prison... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > who is this that understands? > > > > > > a labyrinth for who? > > > > > > you make what is one two. > > > > > > you do not understand. > > > > > > your wrongdoing is thinking that you understand anything. > > > > > > you are in a jail house maze of your own device. > > > > > > is that nice? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > where I am nothing is nice or ugly... > > there is no freedom and no prison... > > but if there is identification with the body or th mind, > > all kinds of misunderstanding is growing... > > what you take me for is only the mind of your own observation playing > > tricks and deluding your false eye.... > > ...iietsa > > > if there is an " I " .. > > or a place for an " I " to be.. > > 'you' are lost. > > delusion is yours iietsa. > > if an I sees the eyes that see.. > > and the eyes that see.. > > see the I that so sees... > > there is nothing but delusional dwelling. > > too bad about your luck. > > it MUST be miserable to be phony about that. > > you have the sympathy of the baba. > > :-) > > .b b.b. > the misunderstanding is all yours... call it understanding if you like... it is all yours...not mine... ....iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 3, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " gary tison " > <juliusw007@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been a newbie to non-duality for about an year, I > have > > > read > > > > > a lot of the most popular books, and listened to a lot of > the > > > teachers > > > > > on non-duality, and to tell you the truth, I trust b.b.b. > more > > > than > > > > > them because he can be, totally honest, something I still can > not > > > do, > > > > > still attached to the shadow ego. just another no-one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dont take the mind for two... > > > > > that is...one trusting part, and another non-trusting part... > > > > > its the same coin even if it appears as two sides... > > > > > if you do not understand that the mind is only one... > > > > > then all kinds of wrong-going is most possible... > > > > > and from there the labyrinth is a prison... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > who is this that understands? > > > > > > > > a labyrinth for who? > > > > > > > > you make what is one two. > > > > > > > > you do not understand. > > > > > > > > your wrongdoing is thinking that you understand anything. > > > > > > > > you are in a jail house maze of your own device. > > > > > > > > is that nice? > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > where I am nothing is nice or ugly... > > > there is no freedom and no prison... > > > but if there is identification with the body or th mind, > > > all kinds of misunderstanding is growing... > > > what you take me for is only the mind of your own observation > playing > > > tricks and deluding your false eye.... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > if there is an " I " .. > > > > or a place for an " I " to be.. > > > > 'you' are lost. > > > > delusion is yours iietsa. > > > > if an I sees the eyes that see.. > > > > and the eyes that see.. > > > > see the I that so sees... > > > > there is nothing but delusional dwelling. > > > > too bad about your luck. > > > > it MUST be miserable to be phony about that. > > > > you have the sympathy of the baba. > > > > :-) > > > > .b b.b. > > > > the misunderstanding is all yours... > call it understanding if you like... > it is all yours...not mine... > ...iietsa 'you'...'i'..same same same. 'you're' just disoriented... and 'you' believe in 'yourself'. that's a big laugh and great fun. delusion Personified! :-) ..b b.b. p.s. you are bogged down in 'your's' and 'mine's'.. that's too bad really. and very strangely.. it details exactly how unenlightened 'you' are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 4, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " gary tison " > > <juliusw007@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been a newbie to non-duality for about an year, I > > have > > > > read > > > > > > a lot of the most popular books, and listened to a lot of > > the > > > > teachers > > > > > > on non-duality, and to tell you the truth, I trust b.b.b. > > more > > > > than > > > > > > them because he can be, totally honest, something I still can > > not > > > > do, > > > > > > still attached to the shadow ego. just another no-one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dont take the mind for two... > > > > > > that is...one trusting part, and another non-trusting part... > > > > > > its the same coin even if it appears as two sides... > > > > > > if you do not understand that the mind is only one... > > > > > > then all kinds of wrong-going is most possible... > > > > > > and from there the labyrinth is a prison... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who is this that understands? > > > > > > > > > > a labyrinth for who? > > > > > > > > > > you make what is one two. > > > > > > > > > > you do not understand. > > > > > > > > > > your wrongdoing is thinking that you understand anything. > > > > > > > > > > you are in a jail house maze of your own device. > > > > > > > > > > is that nice? > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where I am nothing is nice or ugly... > > > > there is no freedom and no prison... > > > > but if there is identification with the body or th mind, > > > > all kinds of misunderstanding is growing... > > > > what you take me for is only the mind of your own observation > > playing > > > > tricks and deluding your false eye.... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > if there is an " I " .. > > > > > > or a place for an " I " to be.. > > > > > > 'you' are lost. > > > > > > delusion is yours iietsa. > > > > > > if an I sees the eyes that see.. > > > > > > and the eyes that see.. > > > > > > see the I that so sees... > > > > > > there is nothing but delusional dwelling. > > > > > > too bad about your luck. > > > > > > it MUST be miserable to be phony about that. > > > > > > you have the sympathy of the baba. > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > the misunderstanding is all yours... > > call it understanding if you like... > > it is all yours...not mine... > > ...iietsa > > > 'you'...'i'..same same same. > > 'you're' just disoriented... and 'you' believe in 'yourself'. > > that's a big laugh and great fun. > > delusion Personified! > > :-) > > .b b.b. > > p.s. > > you are bogged down in 'your's' and 'mine's'.. > > that's too bad really. > > and very strangely.. > > it details exactly how unenlightened 'you' are. > this might be how it appears to you... whatever you say that I am...I am not that... and I will never become... ....iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 4, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " gary tison " > > > <juliusw007@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been a newbie to non-duality for about an > year, I > > > have > > > > > read > > > > > > > a lot of the most popular books, and listened to a lot > of > > > the > > > > > teachers > > > > > > > on non-duality, and to tell you the truth, I trust b.b.b. > > > more > > > > > than > > > > > > > them because he can be, totally honest, something I still > can > > > not > > > > > do, > > > > > > > still attached to the shadow ego. just another no-one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dont take the mind for two... > > > > > > > that is...one trusting part, and another non-trusting > part... > > > > > > > its the same coin even if it appears as two sides... > > > > > > > if you do not understand that the mind is only one... > > > > > > > then all kinds of wrong-going is most possible... > > > > > > > and from there the labyrinth is a prison... > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who is this that understands? > > > > > > > > > > > > a labyrinth for who? > > > > > > > > > > > > you make what is one two. > > > > > > > > > > > > you do not understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > your wrongdoing is thinking that you understand anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > you are in a jail house maze of your own device. > > > > > > > > > > > > is that nice? > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where I am nothing is nice or ugly... > > > > > there is no freedom and no prison... > > > > > but if there is identification with the body or th mind, > > > > > all kinds of misunderstanding is growing... > > > > > what you take me for is only the mind of your own observation > > > playing > > > > > tricks and deluding your false eye.... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > if there is an " I " .. > > > > > > > > or a place for an " I " to be.. > > > > > > > > 'you' are lost. > > > > > > > > delusion is yours iietsa. > > > > > > > > if an I sees the eyes that see.. > > > > > > > > and the eyes that see.. > > > > > > > > see the I that so sees... > > > > > > > > there is nothing but delusional dwelling. > > > > > > > > too bad about your luck. > > > > > > > > it MUST be miserable to be phony about that. > > > > > > > > you have the sympathy of the baba. > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > the misunderstanding is all yours... > > > call it understanding if you like... > > > it is all yours...not mine... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > 'you'...'i'..same same same. > > > > 'you're' just disoriented... and 'you' believe in 'yourself'. > > > > that's a big laugh and great fun. > > > > delusion Personified! > > > > :-) > > > > .b b.b. > > > > p.s. > > > > you are bogged down in 'your's' and 'mine's'.. > > > > that's too bad really. > > > > and very strangely.. > > > > it details exactly how unenlightened 'you' are. > > > > this might be how it appears to you... > whatever you say that I am...I am not that... > and I will never become... > ...iietsa wrong. yada, yada, yada. ..b b.b. p.s. you have not the slightest idea how things " appear to me " . you have not the slightest notion of what you are.. or will become. you are not special. you are merely what you are. get over yourself and live with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 8, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " gary tison " > > > > <juliusw007@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been a newbie to non-duality for about an > > year, I > > > > have > > > > > > read > > > > > > > > a lot of the most popular books, and listened to a lot > > of > > > > the > > > > > > teachers > > > > > > > > on non-duality, and to tell you the truth, I trust b.b.b. > > > > more > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > them because he can be, totally honest, something I still > > can > > > > not > > > > > > do, > > > > > > > > still attached to the shadow ego. just another no- one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dont take the mind for two... > > > > > > > > that is...one trusting part, and another non-trusting > > part... > > > > > > > > its the same coin even if it appears as two sides... > > > > > > > > if you do not understand that the mind is only one... > > > > > > > > then all kinds of wrong-going is most possible... > > > > > > > > and from there the labyrinth is a prison... > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who is this that understands? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a labyrinth for who? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you make what is one two. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you do not understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your wrongdoing is thinking that you understand anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are in a jail house maze of your own device. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is that nice? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where I am nothing is nice or ugly... > > > > > > there is no freedom and no prison... > > > > > > but if there is identification with the body or th mind, > > > > > > all kinds of misunderstanding is growing... > > > > > > what you take me for is only the mind of your own observation > > > > playing > > > > > > tricks and deluding your false eye.... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if there is an " I " .. > > > > > > > > > > or a place for an " I " to be.. > > > > > > > > > > 'you' are lost. > > > > > > > > > > delusion is yours iietsa. > > > > > > > > > > if an I sees the eyes that see.. > > > > > > > > > > and the eyes that see.. > > > > > > > > > > see the I that so sees... > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing but delusional dwelling. > > > > > > > > > > too bad about your luck. > > > > > > > > > > it MUST be miserable to be phony about that. > > > > > > > > > > you have the sympathy of the baba. > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > the misunderstanding is all yours... > > > > call it understanding if you like... > > > > it is all yours...not mine... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > 'you'...'i'..same same same. > > > > > > 'you're' just disoriented... and 'you' believe in 'yourself'. > > > > > > that's a big laugh and great fun. > > > > > > delusion Personified! > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > you are bogged down in 'your's' and 'mine's'.. > > > > > > that's too bad really. > > > > > > and very strangely.. > > > > > > it details exactly how unenlightened 'you' are. > > > > > > > this might be how it appears to you... > > whatever you say that I am...I am not that... > > and I will never become... > > ...iietsa > > > wrong. > > yada, yada, yada. > > .b b.b. > > p.s. > > you have not the slightest idea how things " appear to me " . > > you have not the slightest notion of what you are.. or will become. > > you are not special. > > you are merely what you are. > > get over yourself and live with it. > I dont care how things appear to you... to me you are zero...nada...nothing... but to you I am a whole lot of things... like disoriented or delusion Personified... understand that it is only mind fooling you... ....iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 8, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " gary tison " > > > > > <juliusw007@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been a newbie to non-duality for about an > > > year, I > > > > > have > > > > > > > read > > > > > > > > > a lot of the most popular books, and listened to a > lot > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > > teachers > > > > > > > > > on non-duality, and to tell you the truth, I trust > b.b.b. > > > > > more > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > them because he can be, totally honest, something I > still > > > can > > > > > not > > > > > > > do, > > > > > > > > > still attached to the shadow ego. just another no- > one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dont take the mind for two... > > > > > > > > > that is...one trusting part, and another non-trusting > > > part... > > > > > > > > > its the same coin even if it appears as two sides... > > > > > > > > > if you do not understand that the mind is only one... > > > > > > > > > then all kinds of wrong-going is most possible... > > > > > > > > > and from there the labyrinth is a prison... > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who is this that understands? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a labyrinth for who? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you make what is one two. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you do not understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your wrongdoing is thinking that you understand > anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are in a jail house maze of your own device. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is that nice? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where I am nothing is nice or ugly... > > > > > > > there is no freedom and no prison... > > > > > > > but if there is identification with the body or th mind, > > > > > > > all kinds of misunderstanding is growing... > > > > > > > what you take me for is only the mind of your own > observation > > > > > playing > > > > > > > tricks and deluding your false eye.... > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if there is an " I " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > or a place for an " I " to be.. > > > > > > > > > > > > 'you' are lost. > > > > > > > > > > > > delusion is yours iietsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > if an I sees the eyes that see.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and the eyes that see.. > > > > > > > > > > > > see the I that so sees... > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing but delusional dwelling. > > > > > > > > > > > > too bad about your luck. > > > > > > > > > > > > it MUST be miserable to be phony about that. > > > > > > > > > > > > you have the sympathy of the baba. > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the misunderstanding is all yours... > > > > > call it understanding if you like... > > > > > it is all yours...not mine... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > 'you'...'i'..same same same. > > > > > > > > 'you're' just disoriented... and 'you' believe in 'yourself'. > > > > > > > > that's a big laugh and great fun. > > > > > > > > delusion Personified! > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > > > you are bogged down in 'your's' and 'mine's'.. > > > > > > > > that's too bad really. > > > > > > > > and very strangely.. > > > > > > > > it details exactly how unenlightened 'you' are. > > > > > > > > > > this might be how it appears to you... > > > whatever you say that I am...I am not that... > > > and I will never become... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > wrong. > > > > yada, yada, yada. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > p.s. > > > > you have not the slightest idea how things " appear to me " . > > > > you have not the slightest notion of what you are.. or will become. > > > > you are not special. > > > > you are merely what you are. > > > > get over yourself and live with it. > > > > I dont care how things appear to you... > to me you are zero...nada...nothing... > but to you I am a whole lot of things... > like disoriented or delusion Personified... > understand that it is only mind fooling you... > ...iietsa no not so. 'you' are of no importance at all.. " I " AM. no time is wasted thinking about 'you'. you are nothing. zip. you think it's all about 'you'. what a sad commentary. someday though...as " I " have promised.. you'll quit being so 'self'-centered.. and perhaps.. nay not 'perhaps' but indeed yea! ...TRUTH will abide within and without. until such arising.. 'you' have permission to go ahead believe that you are enlightened. that of course is proof positive that you are not. best wishes and with confidence in WHAT IS.. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " gary tison " > > > > > > <juliusw007@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been a newbie to non-duality for about an > > > > year, I > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > read > > > > > > > > > > a lot of the most popular books, and listened to a > > lot > > > > of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > teachers > > > > > > > > > > on non-duality, and to tell you the truth, I trust > > b.b.b. > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > > them because he can be, totally honest, something I > > still > > > > can > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > do, > > > > > > > > > > still attached to the shadow ego. just another no- > > one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dont take the mind for two... > > > > > > > > > > that is...one trusting part, and another non- trusting > > > > part... > > > > > > > > > > its the same coin even if it appears as two sides... > > > > > > > > > > if you do not understand that the mind is only one... > > > > > > > > > > then all kinds of wrong-going is most possible... > > > > > > > > > > and from there the labyrinth is a prison... > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who is this that understands? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a labyrinth for who? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you make what is one two. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you do not understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your wrongdoing is thinking that you understand > > anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are in a jail house maze of your own device. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is that nice? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where I am nothing is nice or ugly... > > > > > > > > there is no freedom and no prison... > > > > > > > > but if there is identification with the body or th mind, > > > > > > > > all kinds of misunderstanding is growing... > > > > > > > > what you take me for is only the mind of your own > > observation > > > > > > playing > > > > > > > > tricks and deluding your false eye.... > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if there is an " I " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or a place for an " I " to be.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'you' are lost. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > delusion is yours iietsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if an I sees the eyes that see.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the eyes that see.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see the I that so sees... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing but delusional dwelling. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > too bad about your luck. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it MUST be miserable to be phony about that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you have the sympathy of the baba. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the misunderstanding is all yours... > > > > > > call it understanding if you like... > > > > > > it is all yours...not mine... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'you'...'i'..same same same. > > > > > > > > > > 'you're' just disoriented... and 'you' believe in 'yourself'. > > > > > > > > > > that's a big laugh and great fun. > > > > > > > > > > delusion Personified! > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > > > > > you are bogged down in 'your's' and 'mine's'.. > > > > > > > > > > that's too bad really. > > > > > > > > > > and very strangely.. > > > > > > > > > > it details exactly how unenlightened 'you' are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > this might be how it appears to you... > > > > whatever you say that I am...I am not that... > > > > and I will never become... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > wrong. > > > > > > yada, yada, yada. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > you have not the slightest idea how things " appear to me " . > > > > > > you have not the slightest notion of what you are.. or will become. > > > > > > you are not special. > > > > > > you are merely what you are. > > > > > > get over yourself and live with it. > > > > > > > I dont care how things appear to you... > > to me you are zero...nada...nothing... > > but to you I am a whole lot of things... > > like disoriented or delusion Personified... > > understand that it is only mind fooling you... > > ...iietsa > > > no not so. > > 'you' are of no importance at all.. > > " I " AM. > > no time is wasted thinking about 'you'. > > you are nothing. > > zip. > > you think it's all about 'you'. > > what a sad commentary. > > someday though...as " I " have promised.. > > you'll quit being so 'self'-centered.. > > and perhaps.. > > nay not 'perhaps' but indeed yea! > > ..TRUTH will abide within and without. > > until such arising.. > > 'you' have permission to go ahead believe that you are enlightened. > > that of course is proof positive that you are not. > > best wishes and with confidence in WHAT IS.. > > .b b.b. > " 'self'-centered " ...is not that something that is in a world of duality only ? 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Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > <iietsa@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " gary tison " > > > > > > > <juliusw007@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been a newbie to non-duality for about > an > > > > > year, I > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > read > > > > > > > > > > > a lot of the most popular books, and listened to > a > > > lot > > > > > of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > teachers > > > > > > > > > > > on non-duality, and to tell you the truth, I > trust > > > b.b.b. > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > > > them because he can be, totally honest, something > I > > > still > > > > > can > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > do, > > > > > > > > > > > still attached to the shadow ego. just another > no- > > > one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dont take the mind for two... > > > > > > > > > > > that is...one trusting part, and another non- > trusting > > > > > part... > > > > > > > > > > > its the same coin even if it appears as two > sides... > > > > > > > > > > > if you do not understand that the mind is only > one... > > > > > > > > > > > then all kinds of wrong-going is most possible... > > > > > > > > > > > and from there the labyrinth is a prison... > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who is this that understands? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a labyrinth for who? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you make what is one two. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you do not understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your wrongdoing is thinking that you understand > > > anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are in a jail house maze of your own device. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is that nice? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where I am nothing is nice or ugly... > > > > > > > > > there is no freedom and no prison... > > > > > > > > > but if there is identification with the body or th > mind, > > > > > > > > > all kinds of misunderstanding is growing... > > > > > > > > > what you take me for is only the mind of your own > > > observation > > > > > > > playing > > > > > > > > > tricks and deluding your false eye.... > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if there is an " I " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or a place for an " I " to be.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'you' are lost. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > delusion is yours iietsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if an I sees the eyes that see.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the eyes that see.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see the I that so sees... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing but delusional dwelling. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > too bad about your luck. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it MUST be miserable to be phony about that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you have the sympathy of the baba. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the misunderstanding is all yours... > > > > > > > call it understanding if you like... > > > > > > > it is all yours...not mine... > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'you'...'i'..same same same. > > > > > > > > > > > > 'you're' just disoriented... and 'you' believe > in 'yourself'. > > > > > > > > > > > > that's a big laugh and great fun. > > > > > > > > > > > > delusion Personified! > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > > > > > > > you are bogged down in 'your's' and 'mine's'.. > > > > > > > > > > > > that's too bad really. > > > > > > > > > > > > and very strangely.. > > > > > > > > > > > > it details exactly how unenlightened 'you' are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this might be how it appears to you... > > > > > whatever you say that I am...I am not that... > > > > > and I will never become... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > yada, yada, yada. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > > > you have not the slightest idea how things " appear to me " . > > > > > > > > you have not the slightest notion of what you are.. or will > become. > > > > > > > > you are not special. > > > > > > > > you are merely what you are. > > > > > > > > get over yourself and live with it. > > > > > > > > > > I dont care how things appear to you... > > > to me you are zero...nada...nothing... > > > but to you I am a whole lot of things... > > > like disoriented or delusion Personified... > > > understand that it is only mind fooling you... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > no not so. > > > > 'you' are of no importance at all.. > > > > " I " AM. > > > > no time is wasted thinking about 'you'. > > > > you are nothing. > > > > zip. > > > > you think it's all about 'you'. > > > > what a sad commentary. > > > > someday though...as " I " have promised.. > > > > you'll quit being so 'self'-centered.. > > > > and perhaps.. > > > > nay not 'perhaps' but indeed yea! > > > > ..TRUTH will abide within and without. > > > > until such arising.. > > > > 'you' have permission to go ahead believe that you are enlightened. > > > > that of course is proof positive that you are not. > > > > best wishes and with confidence in WHAT IS.. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > " 'self'-centered " ...is not that something that is in a world of > duality only ? > ...iietsa yep... or as some here would say.. in 'iietsa land... more bizarre and divided than... all the rides and 'Worlds' at Disneyland. you're a hoot there guy! :-) ..b b.b. 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