Guest guest Report post Posted January 9, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Virgil " <v.halbred@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The true nature is not owned by anyone. You are not, therefore, > > the > > > > > True Nature Is. > > > > > Iesta says: " but how to comunicate this in words to a taking- > > > > himself- > > > > > for-a-body " . You do not say a word, only observe and assimilate > > the > > > > > lesson. > > > > > Ramana Maharshi was once asked: You are a great sage, why dont > > you > > > > > talk and enlighten everyone? > > > > > Ramana said: When you are in a dream and you are dreaming about > > > > > people that you talk to, communicate with, sell and buy from > > them. > > > > > When you wake up from the dream, do you go on looking for these > > > > > dream people to continue talking, selling and so forth? > > > > > > > > > > > > > yees exactly...but even Ramana said something to the dream- > > others.... > > > > so why is it no problem when he did...and all of a sudden a > > problem > > > > when I did... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > duh! > > > > > > you ain't no ramana kid. > > > > > > take a clue would you. > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > so...whats the difference in your point of wiev... > > ...iietsa > > > > > > i didn't say there was one. > > but.. > > i really.. > > honestly.. > > don't have a point.. > > or a curve.. > > of " wiev " > > i don't even know what the hell that is. > > but baba is sure that you must and that it must be very different. > > does that fix things up between us kid? > > LOL! > > .b b.b. > fix ? between us ? are you speaking as if you were one body and I was another body... or are you speaking as if you were one mind and I was another mind... in both cases it is mere thought...mere idea... as written before...there is not a second... ....iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 9, 2008 > > > > > > > > > > > > > so...whats the difference in your point of wiev... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > i didn't say there was one. > > > > but.. > > > > i really.. > > > > honestly.. > > > > don't have a point.. > > > > or a curve.. > > > > of " wiev " > > > > i don't even know what the hell that is. > > > > but baba is sure that you must and that it must be very different. > > > > does that fix things up between us kid? > > > > LOL! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > fix ? > between us ? > are you speaking as if you were one body and I was another body... you certainly are. > or are you speaking as if you were one mind and I was another mind... you certainly are. > in both cases it is mere thought...mere idea... > as written before...there is not a second... > ...iietsa i already know that i have no second. especially not in your case. i'm grown up son. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 9, 2008 Hahaha, luv ya iietsa..... iietsa <iietsa wrote: Nisargadatta , "roberibus111" <Roberibus111 wrote:>> Nisargadatta , "iietsa" <iietsa@> wrote:> >> > Nisargadatta , "roberibus111" > > <Roberibus111@> wrote:> > >> > > Nisargadatta , "iietsa" <iietsa@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Nisargadatta , "Virgil" <v.halbred@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > The true nature is not owned by anyone. You are not, therefore, > > the > > > > > True Nature Is. > > > > > Iesta says: "but how to comunicate this in words to a taking-> > > > himself-> > > > > for-a-body". You do not say a word, only observe and assimilate > > the > > > > > lesson.> > > > > Ramana Maharshi was once asked: You are a great sage, why dont > > you > > > > > talk and enlighten everyone?> > > > > Ramana said: When you are in a dream and you are dreaming about > > > > > people that you talk to, communicate with, sell and buy from > > them. > > > > > When you wake up from the dream, do you go on looking for these > > > > > dream people to continue talking, selling and so forth?> > > > > > > > > > > > > yees exactly...but even Ramana said something to the dream-> > others....> > > > so why is it no problem when he did...and all of a sudden a > > problem > > > > when I did...> > > > ...iietsa> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > duh!> > > > > > you ain't no ramana kid.> > > > > > take a clue would you.> > > > > > > > > :-)> > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > so...whats the difference in your point of wiev...> > ...iietsa> > > > > > i didn't say there was one.> > but..> > i really..> > honestly..> > don't have a point..> > or a curve..> > of "wiev" > > i don't even know what the hell that is.> > but baba is sure that you must and that it must be very different.> > does that fix things up between us kid?> > LOL!> > .b b.b.>fix ?between us ?are you speaking as if you were one body and I was another body...or are you speaking as if you were one mind and I was another mind...in both cases it is mere thought...mere idea...as written before...there is not a second......iietsa Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 9, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so...whats the difference in your point of wiev... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i didn't say there was one. > > > > > > but.. > > > > > > i really.. > > > > > > honestly.. > > > > > > don't have a point.. > > > > > > or a curve.. > > > > > > of " wiev " > > > > > > i don't even know what the hell that is. > > > > > > but baba is sure that you must and that it must be very different. > > > > > > does that fix things up between us kid? > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > fix ? > > between us ? > > are you speaking as if you were one body and I was another body... > > > you certainly are. > > > > > or are you speaking as if you were one mind and I was another mind... > > > > you certainly are. > > > > > in both cases it is mere thought...mere idea... > > as written before...there is not a second... > > ...iietsa > > > > > i already know that i have no second. > > especially not in your case. > > i'm grown up son. > > > .b b.b. > ....why do you speak like there was a child...or a kid...or a son ? is that a way to pass the understanding that you have no second... ....if you would not be so quick to take yourself for an grown up... you might slow down the taking (me) for a kid or a son... ....iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 9, 2008 Interesting, you both seem to propagate the idea that there is no other, second, whatever. Still I get the idea not from my head that I'm sitting here inside my body typing words, while you sit over there inside yours typing something else, not completely different, but simply can't get the idea into or around my head, that we're all the same persona. Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > > fix ? > between us ? > are you speaking as if you were one body and I was another body... > or are you speaking as if you were one mind and I was another mind... > in both cases it is mere thought...mere idea... > as written before...there is not a second... > ...iietsa > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Virgil " <v.halbred@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The true nature is not owned by anyone. You are not, > therefore, > > > the > > > > > > True Nature Is. > > > > > > Iesta says: " but how to comunicate this in words to a > taking- > > > > > himself- > > > > > > for-a-body " . You do not say a word, only observe and > assimilate > > > the > > > > > > lesson. > > > > > > Ramana Maharshi was once asked: You are a great sage, why > dont > > > you > > > > > > talk and enlighten everyone? > > > > > > Ramana said: When you are in a dream and you are dreaming > about > > > > > > people that you talk to, communicate with, sell and buy > from > > > them. > > > > > > When you wake up from the dream, do you go on looking for > these > > > > > > dream people to continue talking, selling and so forth? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yees exactly...but even Ramana said something to the dream- > > > others.... > > > > > so why is it no problem when he did...and all of a sudden a > > > problem > > > > > when I did... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > duh! > > > > > > > > you ain't no ramana kid. > > > > > > > > take a clue would you. > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > so...whats the difference in your point of wiev... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > i didn't say there was one. > > > > but.. > > > > i really.. > > > > honestly.. > > > > don't have a point.. > > > > or a curve.. > > > > of " wiev " > > > > i don't even know what the hell that is. > > > > but baba is sure that you must and that it must be very different. > > > > does that fix things up between us kid? > > > > LOL! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 9, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so...whats the difference in your point of wiev... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i didn't say there was one. > > > > > > > > but.. > > > > > > > > i really.. > > > > > > > > honestly.. > > > > > > > > don't have a point.. > > > > > > > > or a curve.. > > > > > > > > of " wiev " > > > > > > > > i don't even know what the hell that is. > > > > > > > > but baba is sure that you must and that it must be very > different. > > > > > > > > does that fix things up between us kid? > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > fix ? > > > between us ? > > > are you speaking as if you were one body and I was another body... > > > > > > you certainly are. > > > > > > > > > or are you speaking as if you were one mind and I was another > mind... > > > > > > > > you certainly are. > > > > > > > > > in both cases it is mere thought...mere idea... > > > as written before...there is not a second... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > i already know that i have no second. > > > > especially not in your case. > > > > i'm grown up son. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > ...why do you speak like there was a child...or a kid...or a son ? > is that a way to pass the understanding that you have no second... > ...if you would not be so quick to take yourself for an grown up... > you might slow down the taking (me) for a kid or a son... > ...iietsa it's a gift what can i say. if you had anything going for you.. you could join the baba's fan club. but i'm particular about the members. sorry kid. and from what i understand about the bullshit you promulgate.. there is no separation between us. suck it up son... or take leave of that crap you trumpet. it only appears to your 'self'.. by your self-inflicted illusions... that you are being talked to by another. peace, love, forbearance.. and all that shit to you my little warrior. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 9, 2008 yes losers always love one another. eh ~sky? ROFLMAO Nisargadatta , rubaiyyat <rubaiyyat6 wrote: > > Hahaha, luv ya iietsa..... > > > iietsa <iietsa wrote: > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Virgil " <v.halbred@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The true nature is not owned by anyone. You are not, > therefore, > > > the > > > > > > True Nature Is. > > > > > > Iesta says: " but how to comunicate this in words to a > taking- > > > > > himself- > > > > > > for-a-body " . You do not say a word, only observe and > assimilate > > > the > > > > > > lesson. > > > > > > Ramana Maharshi was once asked: You are a great sage, why > dont > > > you > > > > > > talk and enlighten everyone? > > > > > > Ramana said: When you are in a dream and you are dreaming > about > > > > > > people that you talk to, communicate with, sell and buy > from > > > them. > > > > > > When you wake up from the dream, do you go on looking for > these > > > > > > dream people to continue talking, selling and so forth? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yees exactly...but even Ramana said something to the dream- > > > others.... > > > > > so why is it no problem when he did...and all of a sudden a > > > problem > > > > > when I did... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > duh! > > > > > > > > you ain't no ramana kid. > > > > > > > > take a clue would you. > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > so...whats the difference in your point of wiev... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > i didn't say there was one. > > > > but.. > > > > i really.. > > > > honestly.. > > > > don't have a point.. > > > > or a curve.. > > > > of " wiev " > > > > i don't even know what the hell that is. > > > > but baba is sure that you must and that it must be very different. > > > > does that fix things up between us kid? > > > > LOL! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > fix ? > between us ? > are you speaking as if you were one body and I was another body... > or are you speaking as if you were one mind and I was another mind... > in both cases it is mere thought...mere idea... > as written before...there is not a second... > ....iietsa > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 9, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Black Eyes Again " <loggin.again wrote: > > > Interesting, > > you both seem to propagate the idea that there is no other, second, > whatever. > > Still I get the idea not from my head that I'm sitting here inside my > body typing words, while you sit over there inside yours typing > something else, not completely different, but simply can't get the > idea into or around my head, that we're all the same persona. hmmm.. if that idea comes to you NOT from your head.. does it come from something other hole lower on the body? that area is probably full of something.. while that head is most likely empty. do we have a good picture on this then? ..b b.b. > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > fix ? > > between us ? > > are you speaking as if you were one body and I was another body... > > or are you speaking as if you were one mind and I was another > mind... > > in both cases it is mere thought...mere idea... > > as written before...there is not a second... > > ...iietsa > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Virgil " <v.halbred@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The true nature is not owned by anyone. You are not, > > therefore, > > > > the > > > > > > > True Nature Is. > > > > > > > Iesta says: " but how to comunicate this in words to a > > taking- > > > > > > himself- > > > > > > > for-a-body " . You do not say a word, only observe and > > assimilate > > > > the > > > > > > > lesson. > > > > > > > Ramana Maharshi was once asked: You are a great sage, why > > dont > > > > you > > > > > > > talk and enlighten everyone? > > > > > > > Ramana said: When you are in a dream and you are dreaming > > about > > > > > > > people that you talk to, communicate with, sell and buy > > from > > > > them. > > > > > > > When you wake up from the dream, do you go on looking for > > these > > > > > > > dream people to continue talking, selling and so forth? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yees exactly...but even Ramana said something to the dream- > > > > others.... > > > > > > so why is it no problem when he did...and all of a sudden a > > > > problem > > > > > > when I did... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > duh! > > > > > > > > > > you ain't no ramana kid. > > > > > > > > > > take a clue would you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so...whats the difference in your point of wiev... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i didn't say there was one. > > > > > > but.. > > > > > > i really.. > > > > > > honestly.. > > > > > > don't have a point.. > > > > > > or a curve.. > > > > > > of " wiev " > > > > > > i don't even know what the hell that is. > > > > > > but baba is sure that you must and that it must be very different. > > > > > > does that fix things up between us kid? > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 10, 2008 ....if you see its all idea...then why interesting ? dont be to quick to identify with the body or the mind... dont eat the the idea that you are sitting inside the body that is doing things or the idea that others are bodies doing things... dont even try to eat the idea that we are the same persona... ideas is not real food...real food is to eat nothing... ....iietsa > > Interesting, > > you both seem to propagate the idea that there is no other, second, > whatever. > > Still I get the idea not from my head that I'm sitting here inside my > body typing words, while you sit over there inside yours typing > something else, not completely different, but simply can't get the > idea into or around my head, that we're all the same persona. > > > > > > > > fix ? > > between us ? > > are you speaking as if you were one body and I was another body... > > or are you speaking as if you were one mind and I was another > mind... > > in both cases it is mere thought...mere idea... > > as written before...there is not a second... > > ...iietsa > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Virgil " <v.halbred@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The true nature is not owned by anyone. You are not, > > therefore, > > > > the > > > > > > > True Nature Is. > > > > > > > Iesta says: " but how to comunicate this in words to a > > taking- > > > > > > himself- > > > > > > > for-a-body " . You do not say a word, only observe and > > assimilate > > > > the > > > > > > > lesson. > > > > > > > Ramana Maharshi was once asked: You are a great sage, why > > dont > > > > you > > > > > > > talk and enlighten everyone? > > > > > > > Ramana said: When you are in a dream and you are dreaming > > about > > > > > > > people that you talk to, communicate with, sell and buy > > from > > > > them. > > > > > > > When you wake up from the dream, do you go on looking for > > these > > > > > > > dream people to continue talking, selling and so forth? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yees exactly...but even Ramana said something to the dream- > > > > others.... > > > > > > so why is it no problem when he did...and all of a sudden a > > > > problem > > > > > > when I did... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > duh! > > > > > > > > > > you ain't no ramana kid. > > > > > > > > > > take a clue would you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so...whats the difference in your point of wiev... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i didn't say there was one. > > > > > > but.. > > > > > > i really.. > > > > > > honestly.. > > > > > > don't have a point.. > > > > > > or a curve.. > > > > > > of " wiev " > > > > > > i don't even know what the hell that is. > > > > > > but baba is sure that you must and that it must be very different. > > > > > > does that fix things up between us kid? > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 10, 2008 Nothing an idea, nothing an illusion, nothing a phantasy, nothing a mirror, what's the difference?! Identify with the mirror, and not with the body, nor with the mind, but also with these, as they are reflections in the mirror. To deny them is equally wrong as to identify solely with them. Identify with all there is, nothing is after all the essence of all there is. Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > ...if you see its all idea...then why interesting ? > dont be to quick to identify with the body or the mind... > dont eat the idea that you are sitting inside the body that is > doing things or the idea that others are bodies doing things... > dont even try to eat the idea that we are the same persona... > ideas is not real food...real food is to eat nothing... > ...iietsa > > > > Interesting, > > > > you both seem to propagate the idea that there is no other, second, > > whatever. > > > > Still I get the idea not from my head that I'm sitting here inside > my > > body typing words, while you sit over there inside yours typing > > something else, not completely different, but simply can't get the > > idea into or around my head, that we're all the same persona. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fix ? > > > between us ? > > > are you speaking as if you were one body and I was another body... > > > or are you speaking as if you were one mind and I was another > > mind... > > > in both cases it is mere thought...mere idea... > > > as written before...there is not a second... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Virgil " > <v.halbred@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The true nature is not owned by anyone. You are not, > > > therefore, > > > > > the > > > > > > > > True Nature Is. > > > > > > > > Iesta says: " but how to comunicate this in words to a > > > taking- > > > > > > > himself- > > > > > > > > for-a-body " . You do not say a word, only observe and > > > assimilate > > > > > the > > > > > > > > lesson. > > > > > > > > Ramana Maharshi was once asked: You are a great sage, > why > > > dont > > > > > you > > > > > > > > talk and enlighten everyone? > > > > > > > > Ramana said: When you are in a dream and you are > dreaming > > > about > > > > > > > > people that you talk to, communicate with, sell and buy > > > from > > > > > them. > > > > > > > > When you wake up from the dream, do you go on looking > for > > > these > > > > > > > > dream people to continue talking, selling and so forth? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yees exactly...but even Ramana said something to the > dream- > > > > > others.... > > > > > > > so why is it no problem when he did...and all of a sudden > a > > > > > problem > > > > > > > when I did... > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > duh! > > > > > > > > > > > > you ain't no ramana kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > take a clue would you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so...whats the difference in your point of wiev... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i didn't say there was one. > > > > > > > > but.. > > > > > > > > i really.. > > > > > > > > honestly.. > > > > > > > > don't have a point.. > > > > > > > > or a curve.. > > > > > > > > of " wiev " > > > > > > > > i don't even know what the hell that is. > > > > > > > > but baba is sure that you must and that it must be very > different. > > > > > > > > does that fix things up between us kid? > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 10, 2008 to identify...or to deny... two sides of the same coin... and the coin is there only if thought is there... its mere thought-taste...nothing real...no real taste... ....iietsa > > Nothing an idea, nothing an illusion, > nothing a phantasy, nothing a mirror, > what's the difference?! > Identify with the mirror, and not with the body, nor with the mind, > but also with these, as they are reflections in the mirror. > > To deny them is equally wrong as to identify solely with them. > > Identify with all there is, > nothing is after all the essence of all there is. > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > ...if you see its all idea...then why interesting ? > > dont be to quick to identify with the body or the mind... > > dont eat the idea that you are sitting inside the body that is > > doing things or the idea that others are bodies doing things... > > dont even try to eat the idea that we are the same persona... > > ideas is not real food...real food is to eat nothing... > > ...iietsa > > > > > > Interesting, > > > > > > you both seem to propagate the idea that there is no other, > second, > > > whatever. > > > > > > Still I get the idea not from my head that I'm sitting here > inside > > my > > > body typing words, while you sit over there inside yours typing > > > something else, not completely different, but simply can't get > the > > > idea into or around my head, that we're all the same persona. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fix ? > > > > between us ? > > > > are you speaking as if you were one body and I was another > body... > > > > or are you speaking as if you were one mind and I was another > > > mind... > > > > in both cases it is mere thought...mere idea... > > > > as written before...there is not a second... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Virgil " > > <v.halbred@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The true nature is not owned by anyone. You are not, > > > > therefore, > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > True Nature Is. > > > > > > > > > Iesta says: " but how to comunicate this in words to a > > > > taking- > > > > > > > > himself- > > > > > > > > > for-a-body " . You do not say a word, only observe and > > > > assimilate > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > lesson. > > > > > > > > > Ramana Maharshi was once asked: You are a great sage, > > why > > > > dont > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > talk and enlighten everyone? > > > > > > > > > Ramana said: When you are in a dream and you are > > dreaming > > > > about > > > > > > > > > people that you talk to, communicate with, sell and > buy > > > > from > > > > > > them. > > > > > > > > > When you wake up from the dream, do you go on looking > > for > > > > these > > > > > > > > > dream people to continue talking, selling and so > forth? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yees exactly...but even Ramana said something to the > > dream- > > > > > > others.... > > > > > > > > so why is it no problem when he did...and all of a > sudden > > a > > > > > > problem > > > > > > > > when I did... > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > duh! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you ain't no ramana kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take a clue would you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so...whats the difference in your point of wiev... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i didn't say there was one. > > > > > > > > > > but.. > > > > > > > > > > i really.. > > > > > > > > > > honestly.. > > > > > > > > > > don't have a point.. > > > > > > > > > > or a curve.. > > > > > > > > > > of " wiev " > > > > > > > > > > i don't even know what the hell that is. > > > > > > > > > > but baba is sure that you must and that it must be very > > different. > > > > > > > > > > does that fix things up between us kid? > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 10, 2008 hmmm. the coin is there regardless wheter you think about it or not, or has the world ceased existing just because you're dead. No. To deny thought, means to die. But the world continues struggling, wheter you are dead or not, wheter you think about it or not, if you exclude yourself, fine, but then exclude yourself, and send no messages here either, or elsewhere. If in turn you choose to live, AND think. think beyond yourself, you are not the center of the world, you are present in all beings, is that not the essence of beingness. To be in all forms. Get rid of your superego which only cares for itself, for you are not only yourself, you are everyone. Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > to identify...or to deny... > two sides of the same coin... > and the coin is there only if thought is there... > its mere thought-taste...nothing real...no real taste... > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > Nothing an idea, nothing an illusion, > > nothing a phantasy, nothing a mirror, > > what's the difference?! > > Identify with the mirror, and not with the body, nor with the mind, > > but also with these, as they are reflections in the mirror. > > > > To deny them is equally wrong as to identify solely with them. > > > > Identify with all there is, > > nothing is after all the essence of all there is. > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > ...if you see its all idea...then why interesting ? > > > dont be to quick to identify with the body or the mind... > > > dont eat the idea that you are sitting inside the body that is > > > doing things or the idea that others are bodies doing things... > > > dont even try to eat the idea that we are the same persona... > > > ideas is not real food...real food is to eat nothing... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > Interesting, > > > > > > > > you both seem to propagate the idea that there is no other, > > second, > > > > whatever. > > > > > > > > Still I get the idea not from my head that I'm sitting here > > inside > > > my > > > > body typing words, while you sit over there inside yours typing > > > > something else, not completely different, but simply can't get > > the > > > > idea into or around my head, that we're all the same persona. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fix ? > > > > > between us ? > > > > > are you speaking as if you were one body and I was another > > body... > > > > > or are you speaking as if you were one mind and I was another > > > > mind... > > > > > in both cases it is mere thought...mere idea... > > > > > as written before...there is not a second... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Virgil " > > > <v.halbred@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The true nature is not owned by anyone. You are > not, > > > > > therefore, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > True Nature Is. > > > > > > > > > > Iesta says: " but how to comunicate this in words to > a > > > > > taking- > > > > > > > > > himself- > > > > > > > > > > for-a-body " . You do not say a word, only observe > and > > > > > assimilate > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > lesson. > > > > > > > > > > Ramana Maharshi was once asked: You are a great > sage, > > > why > > > > > dont > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > talk and enlighten everyone? > > > > > > > > > > Ramana said: When you are in a dream and you are > > > dreaming > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > people that you talk to, communicate with, sell and > > buy > > > > > from > > > > > > > them. > > > > > > > > > > When you wake up from the dream, do you go on > looking > > > for > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > dream people to continue talking, selling and so > > forth? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yees exactly...but even Ramana said something to the > > > dream- > > > > > > > others.... > > > > > > > > > so why is it no problem when he did...and all of a > > sudden > > > a > > > > > > > problem > > > > > > > > > when I did... > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > duh! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you ain't no ramana kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take a clue would you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so...whats the difference in your point of wiev... > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i didn't say there was one. > > > > > > > > > > > > but.. > > > > > > > > > > > > i really.. > > > > > > > > > > > > honestly.. > > > > > > > > > > > > don't have a point.. > > > > > > > > > > > > or a curve.. > > > > > > > > > > > > of " wiev " > > > > > > > > > > > > i don't even know what the hell that is. > > > > > > > > > > > > but baba is sure that you must and that it must be very > > > different. > > > > > > > > > > > > does that fix things up between us kid? > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 10, 2008 pray tell swamiietsa.. what the fuck is a 'real' taste? mamma's tit? get real child. you've been nursing too long. that's gotta suck.. LOL! ..b bobji baba Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > to identify...or to deny... > two sides of the same coin... > and the coin is there only if thought is there... > its mere thought-taste...nothing real...no real taste... > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > Nothing an idea, nothing an illusion, > > nothing a phantasy, nothing a mirror, > > what's the difference?! > > Identify with the mirror, and not with the body, nor with the mind, > > but also with these, as they are reflections in the mirror. > > > > To deny them is equally wrong as to identify solely with them. > > > > Identify with all there is, > > nothing is after all the essence of all there is. > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > ...if you see its all idea...then why interesting ? > > > dont be to quick to identify with the body or the mind... > > > dont eat the idea that you are sitting inside the body that is > > > doing things or the idea that others are bodies doing things... > > > dont even try to eat the idea that we are the same persona... > > > ideas is not real food...real food is to eat nothing... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > Interesting, > > > > > > > > you both seem to propagate the idea that there is no other, > > second, > > > > whatever. > > > > > > > > Still I get the idea not from my head that I'm sitting here > > inside > > > my > > > > body typing words, while you sit over there inside yours typing > > > > something else, not completely different, but simply can't get > > the > > > > idea into or around my head, that we're all the same persona. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fix ? > > > > > between us ? > > > > > are you speaking as if you were one body and I was another > > body... > > > > > or are you speaking as if you were one mind and I was another > > > > mind... > > > > > in both cases it is mere thought...mere idea... > > > > > as written before...there is not a second... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Virgil " > > > <v.halbred@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The true nature is not owned by anyone. You are > not, > > > > > therefore, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > True Nature Is. > > > > > > > > > > Iesta says: " but how to comunicate this in words to > a > > > > > taking- > > > > > > > > > himself- > > > > > > > > > > for-a-body " . You do not say a word, only observe > and > > > > > assimilate > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > lesson. > > > > > > > > > > Ramana Maharshi was once asked: You are a great > sage, > > > why > > > > > dont > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > talk and enlighten everyone? > > > > > > > > > > Ramana said: When you are in a dream and you are > > > dreaming > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > people that you talk to, communicate with, sell and > > buy > > > > > from > > > > > > > them. > > > > > > > > > > When you wake up from the dream, do you go on > looking > > > for > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > dream people to continue talking, selling and so > > forth? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yees exactly...but even Ramana said something to the > > > dream- > > > > > > > others.... > > > > > > > > > so why is it no problem when he did...and all of a > > sudden > > > a > > > > > > > problem > > > > > > > > > when I did... > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > duh! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you ain't no ramana kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take a clue would you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so...whats the difference in your point of wiev... > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i didn't say there was one. > > > > > > > > > > > > but.. > > > > > > > > > > > > i really.. > > > > > > > > > > > > honestly.. > > > > > > > > > > > > don't have a point.. > > > > > > > > > > > > or a curve.. > > > > > > > > > > > > of " wiev " > > > > > > > > > > > > i don't even know what the hell that is. > > > > > > > > > > > > but baba is sure that you must and that it must be very > > > different. > > > > > > > > > > > > does that fix things up between us kid? > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 10, 2008 a couple of minutes ago you said " identifing with all there is " ... and now you say " send no messages here " ... just show me the entity that chooses to live... and the one who will die... and I will fall down at your feet... ....iietsa > > hmmm. > the coin is there regardless wheter you think about it or not, > or has the world ceased existing just because you're dead. > > No. > > To deny thought, means to die. > > But the world continues struggling, wheter you are dead or not, > wheter you think about it or not, if you exclude yourself, > fine, but then exclude yourself, and send no messages here either, or > elsewhere. > > If in turn you choose to live, > AND think. > think beyond yourself, you are not the center of the world, > you are present in all beings, is that not the essence of beingness. > > To be in all forms. > > Get rid of your superego which only cares for itself, > for you are not only yourself, > you are everyone. Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > to identify...or to deny... > > two sides of the same coin... > > and the coin is there only if thought is there... > > its mere thought-taste...nothing real...no real taste... > > ...iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 10, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > pray tell swamiietsa.. > > what the fuck is a 'real' taste? > > mamma's tit? > > get real child. > > you've been nursing too long. > > that's gotta suck.. > > LOL! > > .b bobji baba > what the fuck is mamma's tit? ....iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 10, 2008 Nisargadatta , "iietsa" <iietsa wrote:>> a couple of minutes ago you said "identifing with all there is"...> and now you say "send no messages here"...> > > just show me the entity that chooses to live...> and the one who will die...> and I will fall down at your feet...> ...iietsa> > > > > >> > hmmm.> > the coin is there regardless wheter you think about it or not, > > or has the world ceased existing just because you're dead.> > > > No.> > > > To deny thought, means to die.> > > > But the world continues struggling, wheter you are dead or not, > > wheter you think about it or not, if you exclude yourself, > > fine, but then exclude yourself, and send no messages here either, > or > > elsewhere.> > > > If in turn you choose to live, > > AND think.> > think beyond yourself, you are not the center of the world, > > you are present in all beings, is that not the essence of beingness.> > > > To be in all forms.> > > > Get rid of your superego which only cares for itself, > > for you are not only yourself, > > you are everyone.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , "iietsa" <iietsa@> wrote:> > >> > > to identify...or to deny...> > > two sides of the same coin...> > > and the coin is there only if thought is there...> > > its mere thought-taste...nothing real...no real taste...> > > ...iietsa> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 10, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > pray tell swamiietsa.. > > > > what the fuck is a 'real' taste? > > > > mamma's tit? > > > > get real child. > > > > you've been nursing too long. > > > > that's gotta suck.. > > > > LOL! > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > what the fuck is mamma's tit? > ...iietsa either of two soft fleshy milk-secreting glandular organs.. on the chest of your mommy. you know the area where the nipples you suck on are located kid. ok.. that's the first lesson for today. hey..you aren't even in elementary school yet are you. suck suck suck baby boy.. it's nourishing... and it will help develop body and brain... the stuff you refuse to believe that you have or need. your writing indicates that the missing mind part.. may well in fact be a true fact.. but your posts indicate that you do have a body with fingers.. those are those little things you see.. that type out those dumb ass fictions you write. the use of the word 'fuck' by our little babe.. is a good sign that some maturation is happening. but don't talk and suck on mom's nipple at the same time... that's disgusting as well as being mindless. there's a good little boy! :-) ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 10, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > pray tell swamiietsa.. > > > > > > what the fuck is a 'real' taste? > > > > > > mamma's tit? > > > > > > get real child. > > > > > > you've been nursing too long. > > > > > > that's gotta suck.. > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > what the fuck is mamma's tit? > > ...iietsa > > > > > either of two soft fleshy milk-secreting glandular organs.. > > on the chest of your mommy. > > you know the area where the nipples you suck on are located kid. > > ok.. > > that's the first lesson for today. > > hey..you aren't even in elementary school yet are you. > > suck suck suck baby boy.. > > it's nourishing... > > and it will help develop body and brain... > > the stuff you refuse to believe that you have or need. > > your writing indicates that the missing mind part.. > > may well in fact be a true fact.. > > but your posts indicate that you do have a body with fingers.. > > those are those little things you see.. > > that type out those dumb ass fictions you write. > > the use of the word 'fuck' by our little babe.. > > is a good sign that some maturation is happening. > > but don't talk and suck on mom's nipple at the same time... > > that's disgusting as well as being mindless. > > there's a good little boy! > > :-) > > .b b.b. > haaaahaaaahaaaa the laugh of today... I really enjoed that one...very good... ....iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 10, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > pray tell swamiietsa.. > > > > > > > > what the fuck is a 'real' taste? > > > > > > > > mamma's tit? > > > > > > > > get real child. > > > > > > > > you've been nursing too long. > > > > > > > > that's gotta suck.. > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > > > > > what the fuck is mamma's tit? > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > either of two soft fleshy milk-secreting glandular organs.. > > > > on the chest of your mommy. > > > > you know the area where the nipples you suck on are located kid. > > > > ok.. > > > > that's the first lesson for today. > > > > hey..you aren't even in elementary school yet are you. > > > > suck suck suck baby boy.. > > > > it's nourishing... > > > > and it will help develop body and brain... > > > > the stuff you refuse to believe that you have or need. > > > > your writing indicates that the missing mind part.. > > > > may well in fact be a true fact.. > > > > but your posts indicate that you do have a body with fingers.. > > > > those are those little things you see.. > > > > that type out those dumb ass fictions you write. > > > > the use of the word 'fuck' by our little babe.. > > > > is a good sign that some maturation is happening. > > > > but don't talk and suck on mom's nipple at the same time... > > > > that's disgusting as well as being mindless. > > > > there's a good little boy! > > > > :-) > > > > .b b.b. > > > > haaaahaaaahaaaa > the laugh of today... > > I really enjoed that one...very good... > ...iietsa who is this " I " that 'lives' and 'enjoys'? LOL! ..b b.b. p.s. baba is pleased that you are pleased. we may finally be getting somewhere! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 10, 2008 Nisargadatta , "roberibus111" <Roberibus111 wrote: > who is this "I" that 'lives' and 'enjoys'? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 10, 2008 Did you see it in my lovely mirror? Fall down at my feet. Nisargadatta , " Black Eyes Again " <loggin.again wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > a couple of minutes ago you said " identifing with all there is " ... > > and now you say " send no messages here " ... > > > > > > just show me the entity that chooses to live... > > and the one who will die... > > and I will fall down at your feet... > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hmmm. > > > the coin is there regardless wheter you think about it or not, > > > or has the world ceased existing just because you're dead. > > > > > > No. > > > > > > To deny thought, means to die. > > > > > > But the world continues struggling, wheter you are dead or not, > > > wheter you think about it or not, if you exclude yourself, > > > fine, but then exclude yourself, and send no messages here either, > > or > > > elsewhere. > > > > > > If in turn you choose to live, > > > AND think. > > > think beyond yourself, you are not the center of the world, > > > you are present in all beings, is that not the essence of beingness. > > > > > > To be in all forms. > > > > > > Get rid of your superego which only cares for itself, > > > for you are not only yourself, > > > you are everyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > to identify...or to deny... > > > > two sides of the same coin... > > > > and the coin is there only if thought is there... > > > > its mere thought-taste...nothing real...no real taste... > > > > ...iietsa > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 10, 2008 Nisargadatta , " Black Eyes Again " <loggin.again wrote: > > > Did you see it in my lovely mirror? > Fall down at my feet. > > saw what...? ....iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 10, 2008 .... the entity that chooses to live... and the one who will die... blacky Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Black Eyes Again " > <loggin.again@> wrote: > > > > > > Did you see it in my lovely mirror? > > Fall down at my feet. > > > > > > saw what...? > ...iietsa > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
