Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2008 I know my own natural nature... and that everything is in it... but how to comunicate this in words to a taking-himself-for-a-body that is also very sick with not so much time left ? ....iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > I know my own natural nature... > and that everything is in it... > but how to comunicate this in words to a taking-himself-for-a-body > that is also very sick with not so much time left ? > ...iietsa for what? what difference would it make if you could. there's all the time 'in' the world, as well as 'out' of it too. time is not something someone has a little or a lot of.. time isn't a 'something'.. that a 'somewhat' or 'someone' 'moves' through. the question is wrongheaded, misplaced, and very unenlightened. you obviously DON'T know the True Nature of anything. nap time iietsa. don't hurry though... 'you' can take as much 'time' as needed. it's all really nothing at all. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > I know my own natural nature... > > and that everything is in it... > > but how to comunicate this in words to a taking-himself-for-a- body > > that is also very sick with not so much time left ? > > ...iietsa > > > for what? > > what difference would it make if you could. > > there's all the time 'in' the world, as well as 'out' of it too. > > time is not something someone has a little or a lot of.. > > time isn't a 'something'.. > > that a 'somewhat' or 'someone' 'moves' through. > > the question is wrongheaded, misplaced, and very unenlightened. > > you obviously DON'T know the True Nature of anything. > > nap time iietsa. > > don't hurry though... > > 'you' can take as much 'time' as needed. > > it's all really nothing at all. > > .b b.b. > yee I see your point...even with the question being wrongheaded, misplaced, and very unenlightened... but to the taking-himself-for-a-body-mind... this body-mind-life seems very, very real...and painful... ....are you saying...ignore it...and let the unreal self...suffer its unreal pain...that is not there...? if it is I can understand in a way... but in my heart...that there seems to be a power that really " wants " the love to shine thru the non-problem, instead of just closing the door to the non-problem... do you understand ? ....iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2008 good question..dianaiietsa <iietsa wrote: Nisargadatta , "roberibus111" <Roberibus111 wrote:>> Nisargadatta , "iietsa" <iietsa@> wrote:> >> > I know my own natural nature...> > and that everything is in it...> > but how to comunicate this in words to a taking-himself-for-a-body > > that is also very sick with not so much time left ?> > ...iietsa> > > for what?>> what difference would it make if you could.> > there's all the time 'in' the world, as well as 'out' of it too.> > time is not something someone has a little or a lot of..> > time isn't a 'something'..> > that a 'somewhat' or 'someone' 'moves' through.> > the question is wrongheaded, misplaced, and very unenlightened.> > you obviously DON'T know the True Nature of anything.> > nap time iietsa.> > don't hurry though...> > 'you' can take as much 'time' as needed.> > it's all really nothing at all.> > .b b.b.>yee I see your point...even with the question being wrongheaded, misplaced, and very unenlightened...but to the taking-himself-for-a-body-mind...this body-mind-life seems very, very real...and painful......are you saying...ignore it...and let the unreal self...suffer its unreal pain...that is not there...?if it is I can understand in a way...but in my heart...that there seems to be a power that really "wants" the love to shine thru the non-problem,instead of just closing the door to the non-problem...do you understand ?...iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > I know my own natural nature... > > > and that everything is in it... > > > but how to comunicate this in words to a taking-himself-for-a- > body > > > that is also very sick with not so much time left ? > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > for what? > > > > what difference would it make if you could. > > > > there's all the time 'in' the world, as well as 'out' of it too. > > > > time is not something someone has a little or a lot of.. > > > > time isn't a 'something'.. > > > > that a 'somewhat' or 'someone' 'moves' through. > > > > the question is wrongheaded, misplaced, and very unenlightened. > > > > you obviously DON'T know the True Nature of anything. > > > > nap time iietsa. > > > > don't hurry though... > > > > 'you' can take as much 'time' as needed. > > > > it's all really nothing at all. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > yee I see your point...even with the question being wrongheaded, > misplaced, and very unenlightened... > but to the taking-himself-for-a-body-mind... > this body-mind-life seems very, very real...and painful... > ...are you saying...ignore it...and let the unreal self...suffer its > unreal pain...that is not there...? > if it is I can understand in a way... > but in my heart...that there seems to be a power that really " wants " > the love to shine thru the non-problem, > instead of just closing the door to the non-problem... > do you understand ? > ...iietsa that's not what i'm saying at all.. and you don't understand. understand? ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2008 no it's not a good question lady di. Love..Consciousness...Being..THAT..SELF.. whatever name you give it.. is NEVER absent. that is an ABSOLUTE impossibility. and sitting around in the clouds talking about it.. changes nothing or no one. the only way anything is ever 'learned' or 'known' is through SELF. no one ever taught you anything. can you explain to someone how to walk? if that were a possibility you'd make a trillion dollars...fast. when a baby starts to walk or talk or learn or teach.. all the 'other' can do is sit around and watch.. another one joins the game and another one bites the dust. that's the TRUTH. and the REAL TRUTH is there is no one but the ONE. books are from and to the SELF. everything known, taught, or learned...you already KNOW. how the heck can it be otherwise? ..b b.b. Nisargadatta , diana shellam <diana.shellam wrote: > > good question..diana > > iietsa <iietsa wrote: --- In Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > I know my own natural nature... > > > and that everything is in it... > > > but how to comunicate this in words to a taking-himself-for-a- > body > > > that is also very sick with not so much time left ? > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > for what? > > > > what difference would it make if you could. > > > > there's all the time 'in' the world, as well as 'out' of it too. > > > > time is not something someone has a little or a lot of.. > > > > time isn't a 'something'.. > > > > that a 'somewhat' or 'someone' 'moves' through. > > > > the question is wrongheaded, misplaced, and very unenlightened. > > > > you obviously DON'T know the True Nature of anything. > > > > nap time iietsa. > > > > don't hurry though... > > > > 'you' can take as much 'time' as needed. > > > > it's all really nothing at all. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > yee I see your point...even with the question being wrongheaded, > misplaced, and very unenlightened... > but to the taking-himself-for-a-body-mind... > this body-mind-life seems very, very real...and painful... > ...are you saying...ignore it...and let the unreal self...suffer its > unreal pain...that is not there...? > if it is I can understand in a way... > but in my heart...that there seems to be a power that really " wants " > the love to shine thru the non-problem, > instead of just closing the door to the non-problem... > do you understand ? > ...iietsa > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2008 thank you rob, without the apparent my not good question, that apparent answer would not have been seen/read.. thank you, diana (wish i was a lady puppet)roberibus111 <Roberibus111 wrote: no it's not a good question lady di.Love..Consciousness...Being..THAT..SELF..whatever name you give it..is NEVER absent.that is an ABSOLUTE impossibility.and sitting around in the clouds talking about it..changes nothing or no one.the only way anything is ever 'learned' or 'known' is through SELF.no one ever taught you anything.can you explain to someone how to walk?if that were a possibility you'd make a trillion dollars...fast.when a baby starts to walk or talk or learn or teach..all the 'other' can do is sit around and watch..another one joins the game and another one bites the dust.that's the TRUTH.and the REAL TRUTH is there is no one but the ONE.books are from and to the SELF.everything known, taught, or learned...you already KNOW.how the heck can it be otherwise?.b b.b.Nisargadatta , diana shellam <diana.shellamwrote:>> good question..diana> > iietsa <iietsa wrote: --- InNisargadatta , "roberibus111" > <Roberibus111@> wrote:> >> > Nisargadatta , "iietsa" <iietsa@> wrote:> > >> > > I know my own natural nature...> > > and that everything is in it...> > > but how to comunicate this in words to a taking-himself-for-a-> body > > > that is also very sick with not so much time left ?> > > ...iietsa> > > > > > for what?> >> > what difference would it make if you could.> > > > there's all the time 'in' the world, as well as 'out' of it too.> > > > time is not something someone has a little or a lot of..> > > > time isn't a 'something'..> > > > that a 'somewhat' or 'someone' 'moves' through.> > > > the question is wrongheaded, misplaced, and very unenlightened.> > > > you obviously DON'T know the True Nature of anything.> > > > nap time iietsa.> > > > don't hurry though...> > > > 'you' can take as much 'time' as needed.> > > > it's all really nothing at all.> > > > .b b.b.> >> > yee I see your point...even with the question being wrongheaded, > misplaced, and very unenlightened...> but to the taking-himself-for-a-body-mind...> this body-mind-life seems very, very real...and painful...> ...are you saying...ignore it...and let the unreal self...suffer its > unreal pain...that is not there...?> if it is I can understand in a way...> but in my heart...that there seems to be a power that really "wants" > the love to shine thru the non-problem,> instead of just closing the door to the non-problem...> do you understand ?> ...iietsa> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2008 ah shucks diana...you knew the answer all along. and it wasn't your question that was rated as not good. it was the question of the one who's question you rated as good. it's all good actually. but pontificating bothers me. especially when it's from one who does nothing but pontificate. but i like that little iietsa guy too. he's cute. but he doesn't understand himself or the SELF.. and that irks me because if he would stop 'trying' so hard.. to tell others what they already profoundly know and understand.. he might stand a chance of understanding that he doesn't understand. i'm rooting for him but hope can only go so far. he has to do the rest for himself. that's the whole premise and essence of everything being said. :-) ..b b.b. Nisargadatta , diana shellam <diana.shellam wrote: > > thank you rob, without the apparent my not good question, that apparent answer would not have been seen/read.. thank you, diana (wish i was a lady puppet) > > roberibus111 <Roberibus111 wrote: no it's not a good question lady di. > > Love..Consciousness...Being..THAT..SELF.. > > whatever name you give it.. > > is NEVER absent. > > that is an ABSOLUTE impossibility. > > and sitting around in the clouds talking about it.. > > changes nothing or no one. > > the only way anything is ever 'learned' or 'known' is through SELF. > > no one ever taught you anything. > > can you explain to someone how to walk? > > if that were a possibility you'd make a trillion dollars...fast. > > when a baby starts to walk or talk or learn or teach.. > > all the 'other' can do is sit around and watch.. > > another one joins the game and another one bites the dust. > > that's the TRUTH. > > and the REAL TRUTH is there is no one but the ONE. > > books are from and to the SELF. > > everything known, taught, or learned...you already KNOW. > > how the heck can it be otherwise? > > .b b.b. > > Nisargadatta , diana shellam <diana.shellam@> > wrote: > > > > good question..diana > > > > iietsa <iietsa@> wrote: --- In > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I know my own natural nature... > > > > and that everything is in it... > > > > but how to comunicate this in words to a taking-himself-for-a- > > body > > > > that is also very sick with not so much time left ? > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > for what? > > > > > > what difference would it make if you could. > > > > > > there's all the time 'in' the world, as well as 'out' of it too. > > > > > > time is not something someone has a little or a lot of.. > > > > > > time isn't a 'something'.. > > > > > > that a 'somewhat' or 'someone' 'moves' through. > > > > > > the question is wrongheaded, misplaced, and very unenlightened. > > > > > > you obviously DON'T know the True Nature of anything. > > > > > > nap time iietsa. > > > > > > don't hurry though... > > > > > > 'you' can take as much 'time' as needed. > > > > > > it's all really nothing at all. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > yee I see your point...even with the question being wrongheaded, > > misplaced, and very unenlightened... > > but to the taking-himself-for-a-body-mind... > > this body-mind-life seems very, very real...and painful... > > ...are you saying...ignore it...and let the unreal self...suffer its > > unreal pain...that is not there...? > > if it is I can understand in a way... > > but in my heart...that there seems to be a power that really " wants " > > the love to shine thru the non-problem, > > instead of just closing the door to the non-problem... > > do you understand ? > > ...iietsa > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2008 what does pontificating mean?roberibus111 <Roberibus111 wrote: ah shucks diana...you knew the answer all along.and it wasn't your question that was rated as not good.it was the question of the one who's question you rated as good.it's all good actually.but pontificating bothers me.especially when it's from one who does nothing but pontificate.but i like that little iietsa guy too.he's cute.but he doesn't understand himself or the SELF..and that irks me because if he would stop 'trying' so hard..to tell others what they already profoundly know and understand..he might stand a chance of understanding that he doesn't understand.i'm rooting for him but hope can only go so far.he has to do the rest for himself.that's the whole premise and essence of everything being said.:-).b b.b.Nisargadatta , diana shellam <diana.shellamwrote:>> thank you rob, without the apparent my not good question, thatapparent answer would not have been seen/read.. thank you, diana (wishi was a lady puppet)> > roberibus111 <Roberibus111 wrote: no it's not a goodquestion lady di.> > Love..Consciousness...Being..THAT..SELF..> > whatever name you give it..> > is NEVER absent.> > that is an ABSOLUTE impossibility.> > and sitting around in the clouds talking about it..> > changes nothing or no one.> > the only way anything is ever 'learned' or 'known' is through SELF.> > no one ever taught you anything.> > can you explain to someone how to walk?> > if that were a possibility you'd make a trillion dollars...fast.> > when a baby starts to walk or talk or learn or teach..> > all the 'other' can do is sit around and watch..> > another one joins the game and another one bites the dust.> > that's the TRUTH.> > and the REAL TRUTH is there is no one but the ONE.> > books are from and to the SELF.> > everything known, taught, or learned...you already KNOW.> > how the heck can it be otherwise?> > .b b.b.> > Nisargadatta , diana shellam <diana.shellam@>> wrote:> >> > good question..diana> > > > iietsa <iietsa@> wrote: --- In> Nisargadatta , "roberibus111" > > <Roberibus111@> wrote:> > >> > > Nisargadatta , "iietsa" <iietsa@> wrote:> > > >> > > > I know my own natural nature...> > > > and that everything is in it...> > > > but how to comunicate this in words to a taking-himself-for-a-> > body > > > > that is also very sick with not so much time left ?> > > > ...iietsa> > > > > > > > > for what?> > >> > > what difference would it make if you could.> > > > > > there's all the time 'in' the world, as well as 'out' of it too.> > > > > > time is not something someone has a little or a lot of..> > > > > > time isn't a 'something'..> > > > > > that a 'somewhat' or 'someone' 'moves' through.> > > > > > the question is wrongheaded, misplaced, and very unenlightened.> > > > > > you obviously DON'T know the True Nature of anything.> > > > > > nap time iietsa.> > > > > > don't hurry though...> > > > > > 'you' can take as much 'time' as needed.> > > > > > it's all really nothing at all.> > > > > > .b b.b.> > >> > > > yee I see your point...even with the question being wrongheaded, > > misplaced, and very unenlightened...> > but to the taking-himself-for-a-body-mind...> > this body-mind-life seems very, very real...and painful...> > ...are you saying...ignore it...and let the unreal self...suffer its > > unreal pain...that is not there...?> > if it is I can understand in a way...> > but in my heart...that there seems to be a power that really "wants" > > the love to shine thru the non-problem,> > instead of just closing the door to the non-problem...> > do you understand ?> > ...iietsa> >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2008 > and it wasn't your question that was rated as not good. > > it was the question of the one who's question you rated as good. > > it's all good actually. > > but pontificating bothers me. > > especially when it's from one who does nothing but pontificate. > > but i like that little iietsa guy too. > > he's cute. > > but he doesn't understand himself or the SELF.. > > and that irks me because if he would stop 'trying' so hard.. > > to tell others what they already profoundly know and understand.. > > he might stand a chance of understanding that he doesn't understand. > > i'm rooting for him but hope can only go so far. > > he has to do the rest for himself. > > that's the whole premise and essence of everything being said. > > :-) > > .b b.b. I just asked one sincere question.... then all this crap keeps coming along... give yourself some rest and space... and the words will not be running forth like mad dogs barfing at everything...its not a war...remember... ....iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2008 maby bbb the pope can answer that one > what does pontificating mean? > > roberibus111 <Roberibus111 wrote: ah shucks diana...you knew the answer all along. > > and it wasn't your question that was rated as not good. > > it was the question of the one who's question you rated as good. > > it's all good actually. > > but pontificating bothers me. > > especially when it's from one who does nothing but pontificate. > > but i like that little iietsa guy too. > > he's cute. > > but he doesn't understand himself or the SELF.. > > and that irks me because if he would stop 'trying' so hard.. > > to tell others what they already profoundly know and understand.. > > he might stand a chance of understanding that he doesn't understand. > > i'm rooting for him but hope can only go so far. > > he has to do the rest for himself. > > that's the whole premise and essence of everything being said. > > :-) > > .b b.b. > > Nisargadatta , diana shellam <diana.shellam@> > wrote: > > > > thank you rob, without the apparent my not good question, that > apparent answer would not have been seen/read.. thank you, diana (wish > i was a lady puppet) > > > > roberibus111 <Roberibus111@> wrote: no it's not a good > question lady di. > > > > Love..Consciousness...Being..THAT..SELF.. > > > > whatever name you give it.. > > > > is NEVER absent. > > > > that is an ABSOLUTE impossibility. > > > > and sitting around in the clouds talking about it.. > > > > changes nothing or no one. > > > > the only way anything is ever 'learned' or 'known' is through SELF. > > > > no one ever taught you anything. > > > > can you explain to someone how to walk? > > > > if that were a possibility you'd make a trillion dollars...fast. > > > > when a baby starts to walk or talk or learn or teach.. > > > > all the 'other' can do is sit around and watch.. > > > > another one joins the game and another one bites the dust. > > > > that's the TRUTH. > > > > and the REAL TRUTH is there is no one but the ONE. > > > > books are from and to the SELF. > > > > everything known, taught, or learned...you already KNOW. > > > > how the heck can it be otherwise? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Nisargadatta , diana shellam <diana.shellam@> > > wrote: > > > > > > good question..diana > > > > > > iietsa <iietsa@> wrote: --- In > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I know my own natural nature... > > > > > and that everything is in it... > > > > > but how to comunicate this in words to a taking-himself-for- a- > > > body > > > > > that is also very sick with not so much time left ? > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > for what? > > > > > > > > what difference would it make if you could. > > > > > > > > there's all the time 'in' the world, as well as 'out' of it too. > > > > > > > > time is not something someone has a little or a lot of.. > > > > > > > > time isn't a 'something'.. > > > > > > > > that a 'somewhat' or 'someone' 'moves' through. > > > > > > > > the question is wrongheaded, misplaced, and very unenlightened. > > > > > > > > you obviously DON'T know the True Nature of anything. > > > > > > > > nap time iietsa. > > > > > > > > don't hurry though... > > > > > > > > 'you' can take as much 'time' as needed. > > > > > > > > it's all really nothing at all. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > yee I see your point...even with the question being wrongheaded, > > > misplaced, and very unenlightened... > > > but to the taking-himself-for-a-body-mind... > > > this body-mind-life seems very, very real...and painful... > > > ...are you saying...ignore it...and let the unreal self...suffer its > > > unreal pain...that is not there...? > > > if it is I can understand in a way... > > > but in my heart...that there seems to be a power that really " wants " > > > the love to shine thru the non-problem, > > > instead of just closing the door to the non-problem... > > > do you understand ? > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2008 to pontificate is to talk in a dogmatic and pompous manner. like the Vicar of Christ in the Vatican. and what's said is what's supposed to be what goes. and it's supposed to be accepted as infallibe. i don't believe anyone elected iietsa as pope. and i know no one takes what he says seriously... let alone as infallible. that's the rub. ..b b.b. Nisargadatta , diana shellam <diana.shellam wrote: > > what does pontificating mean? > > roberibus111 <Roberibus111 wrote: ah shucks diana...you knew the answer all along. > > and it wasn't your question that was rated as not good. > > it was the question of the one who's question you rated as good. > > it's all good actually. > > but pontificating bothers me. > > especially when it's from one who does nothing but pontificate. > > but i like that little iietsa guy too. > > he's cute. > > but he doesn't understand himself or the SELF.. > > and that irks me because if he would stop 'trying' so hard.. > > to tell others what they already profoundly know and understand.. > > he might stand a chance of understanding that he doesn't understand. > > i'm rooting for him but hope can only go so far. > > he has to do the rest for himself. > > that's the whole premise and essence of everything being said. > > :-) > > .b b.b. > > Nisargadatta , diana shellam <diana.shellam@> > wrote: > > > > thank you rob, without the apparent my not good question, that > apparent answer would not have been seen/read.. thank you, diana (wish > i was a lady puppet) > > > > roberibus111 <Roberibus111@> wrote: no it's not a good > question lady di. > > > > Love..Consciousness...Being..THAT..SELF.. > > > > whatever name you give it.. > > > > is NEVER absent. > > > > that is an ABSOLUTE impossibility. > > > > and sitting around in the clouds talking about it.. > > > > changes nothing or no one. > > > > the only way anything is ever 'learned' or 'known' is through SELF. > > > > no one ever taught you anything. > > > > can you explain to someone how to walk? > > > > if that were a possibility you'd make a trillion dollars...fast. > > > > when a baby starts to walk or talk or learn or teach.. > > > > all the 'other' can do is sit around and watch.. > > > > another one joins the game and another one bites the dust. > > > > that's the TRUTH. > > > > and the REAL TRUTH is there is no one but the ONE. > > > > books are from and to the SELF. > > > > everything known, taught, or learned...you already KNOW. > > > > how the heck can it be otherwise? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Nisargadatta , diana shellam <diana.shellam@> > > wrote: > > > > > > good question..diana > > > > > > iietsa <iietsa@> wrote: --- In > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I know my own natural nature... > > > > > and that everything is in it... > > > > > but how to comunicate this in words to a taking-himself-for-a- > > > body > > > > > that is also very sick with not so much time left ? > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > for what? > > > > > > > > what difference would it make if you could. > > > > > > > > there's all the time 'in' the world, as well as 'out' of it too. > > > > > > > > time is not something someone has a little or a lot of.. > > > > > > > > time isn't a 'something'.. > > > > > > > > that a 'somewhat' or 'someone' 'moves' through. > > > > > > > > the question is wrongheaded, misplaced, and very unenlightened. > > > > > > > > you obviously DON'T know the True Nature of anything. > > > > > > > > nap time iietsa. > > > > > > > > don't hurry though... > > > > > > > > 'you' can take as much 'time' as needed. > > > > > > > > it's all really nothing at all. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > yee I see your point...even with the question being wrongheaded, > > > misplaced, and very unenlightened... > > > but to the taking-himself-for-a-body-mind... > > > this body-mind-life seems very, very real...and painful... > > > ...are you saying...ignore it...and let the unreal self...suffer its > > > unreal pain...that is not there...? > > > if it is I can understand in a way... > > > but in my heart...that there seems to be a power that really " wants " > > > the love to shine thru the non-problem, > > > instead of just closing the door to the non-problem... > > > do you understand ? > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > > > > > > and it wasn't your question that was rated as not good. > > > > it was the question of the one who's question you rated as good. > > > > it's all good actually. > > > > but pontificating bothers me. > > > > especially when it's from one who does nothing but pontificate. > > > > but i like that little iietsa guy too. > > > > he's cute. > > > > but he doesn't understand himself or the SELF.. > > > > and that irks me because if he would stop 'trying' so hard.. > > > > to tell others what they already profoundly know and understand.. > > > > he might stand a chance of understanding that he doesn't understand. > > > > i'm rooting for him but hope can only go so far. > > > > he has to do the rest for himself. > > > > that's the whole premise and essence of everything being said. > > > > :-) > > > > .b b.b. > > > I just asked one sincere question.... > then all this crap keeps coming along... > give yourself some rest and space... > and the words will not be running forth like mad dogs barfing at > everything...its not a war...remember... > ...iietsa oh grow up! no one said it was war. but you are consistently trying to be grandiloquent. and kid..you ain't. and talk about crap... reread your own stuff. that's the way to really get to know yourself. and if your honest with yourself.. yopu'll quit saying stupid things like: " I know my own true nature. " that's a fart in the wind kid. NO ONE 'knows' their own nature. what utter bullshit. if it were true iietsa.. you wouldn't have the audacity... nor stupidity.. to try and convince others of it. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2008 no 'maby' about it. maybe you should read my answer. it would do you good son. but it's you who dream of popehood. and no one is joining the church. dream on little one. ..b b.b p.s. you're welcome for the answer. now you finally have one. :-) Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > maby bbb the pope can answer that one > > > what does pontificating mean? > > > > roberibus111 <Roberibus111@> wrote: ah shucks > diana...you knew the answer all along. > > > > and it wasn't your question that was rated as not good. > > > > it was the question of the one who's question you rated as good. > > > > it's all good actually. > > > > but pontificating bothers me. > > > > especially when it's from one who does nothing but pontificate. > > > > but i like that little iietsa guy too. > > > > he's cute. > > > > but he doesn't understand himself or the SELF.. > > > > and that irks me because if he would stop 'trying' so hard.. > > > > to tell others what they already profoundly know and understand.. > > > > he might stand a chance of understanding that he doesn't understand. > > > > i'm rooting for him but hope can only go so far. > > > > he has to do the rest for himself. > > > > that's the whole premise and essence of everything being said. > > > > :-) > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Nisargadatta , diana shellam <diana.shellam@> > > wrote: > > > > > > thank you rob, without the apparent my not good question, that > > apparent answer would not have been seen/read.. thank you, diana > (wish > > i was a lady puppet) > > > > > > roberibus111 <Roberibus111@> wrote: no it's not a good > > question lady di. > > > > > > Love..Consciousness...Being..THAT..SELF.. > > > > > > whatever name you give it.. > > > > > > is NEVER absent. > > > > > > that is an ABSOLUTE impossibility. > > > > > > and sitting around in the clouds talking about it.. > > > > > > changes nothing or no one. > > > > > > the only way anything is ever 'learned' or 'known' is through > SELF. > > > > > > no one ever taught you anything. > > > > > > can you explain to someone how to walk? > > > > > > if that were a possibility you'd make a trillion dollars...fast. > > > > > > when a baby starts to walk or talk or learn or teach.. > > > > > > all the 'other' can do is sit around and watch.. > > > > > > another one joins the game and another one bites the dust. > > > > > > that's the TRUTH. > > > > > > and the REAL TRUTH is there is no one but the ONE. > > > > > > books are from and to the SELF. > > > > > > everything known, taught, or learned...you already KNOW. > > > > > > how the heck can it be otherwise? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Nisargadatta , diana shellam > <diana.shellam@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > good question..diana > > > > > > > > iietsa <iietsa@> wrote: --- In > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I know my own natural nature... > > > > > > and that everything is in it... > > > > > > but how to comunicate this in words to a taking-himself-for- > a- > > > > body > > > > > > that is also very sick with not so much time left ? > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for what? > > > > > > > > > > what difference would it make if you could. > > > > > > > > > > there's all the time 'in' the world, as well as 'out' of it > too. > > > > > > > > > > time is not something someone has a little or a lot of.. > > > > > > > > > > time isn't a 'something'.. > > > > > > > > > > that a 'somewhat' or 'someone' 'moves' through. > > > > > > > > > > the question is wrongheaded, misplaced, and very > unenlightened. > > > > > > > > > > you obviously DON'T know the True Nature of anything. > > > > > > > > > > nap time iietsa. > > > > > > > > > > don't hurry though... > > > > > > > > > > 'you' can take as much 'time' as needed. > > > > > > > > > > it's all really nothing at all. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > yee I see your point...even with the question being > wrongheaded, > > > > misplaced, and very unenlightened... > > > > but to the taking-himself-for-a-body-mind... > > > > this body-mind-life seems very, very real...and painful... > > > > ...are you saying...ignore it...and let the unreal > self...suffer its > > > > unreal pain...that is not there...? > > > > if it is I can understand in a way... > > > > but in my heart...that there seems to be a power that > really " wants " > > > > the love to shine thru the non-problem, > > > > instead of just closing the door to the non-problem... > > > > do you understand ? > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > and it wasn't your question that was rated as not good. > > > > > > it was the question of the one who's question you rated as good. > > > > > > it's all good actually. > > > > > > but pontificating bothers me. > > > > > > especially when it's from one who does nothing but pontificate. > > > > > > but i like that little iietsa guy too. > > > > > > he's cute. > > > > > > but he doesn't understand himself or the SELF.. > > > > > > and that irks me because if he would stop 'trying' so hard.. > > > > > > to tell others what they already profoundly know and understand.. > > > > > > he might stand a chance of understanding that he doesn't understand. > > > > > > i'm rooting for him but hope can only go so far. > > > > > > he has to do the rest for himself. > > > > > > that's the whole premise and essence of everything being said. > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > I just asked one sincere question.... > > then all this crap keeps coming along... > > give yourself some rest and space... > > and the words will not be running forth like mad dogs barfing at > > everything...its not a war...remember... > > ...iietsa > > > oh grow up! > > no one said it was war. > > but you are consistently trying to be grandiloquent. > > and kid..you ain't. > > and talk about crap... > > reread your own stuff. > > that's the way to really get to know yourself. > > and if your honest with yourself.. > > yopu'll quit saying stupid things like: > > " I know my own true nature. " > > that's a fart in the wind kid. > > NO ONE 'knows' their own nature. > > what utter bullshit. > > if it were true iietsa.. > > you wouldn't have the audacity... > > nor stupidity.. > > to try and convince others of it. > > > .b b.b. > grandiloquent...audacity... now I can see why you always label me kid or child... how old are you...really... ....iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2008 oh you lost me there...which churh was it again...? and can you please send a map too... ....iietsa > no 'maby' about it. > > maybe you should read my answer. > > it would do you good son. > > but it's you who dream of popehood. > > and no one is joining the church. > > dream on little one. > > > .b b.b > > p.s. > > you're welcome for the answer. > > now you finally have one. > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > maby bbb the pope can answer that one > > > > > what does pontificating mean? > > > > > > roberibus111 <Roberibus111@> wrote: ah shucks > > diana...you knew the answer all along. > > > > > > and it wasn't your question that was rated as not good. > > > > > > it was the question of the one who's question you rated as good. > > > > > > it's all good actually. > > > > > > but pontificating bothers me. > > > > > > especially when it's from one who does nothing but pontificate. > > > > > > but i like that little iietsa guy too. > > > > > > he's cute. > > > > > > but he doesn't understand himself or the SELF.. > > > > > > and that irks me because if he would stop 'trying' so hard.. > > > > > > to tell others what they already profoundly know and understand.. > > > > > > he might stand a chance of understanding that he doesn't understand. > > > > > > i'm rooting for him but hope can only go so far. > > > > > > he has to do the rest for himself. > > > > > > that's the whole premise and essence of everything being said. > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Nisargadatta , diana shellam <diana.shellam@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > thank you rob, without the apparent my not good question, that > > > apparent answer would not have been seen/read.. thank you, diana > > (wish > > > i was a lady puppet) > > > > > > > > roberibus111 <Roberibus111@> wrote: no it's not a good > > > question lady di. > > > > > > > > Love..Consciousness...Being..THAT..SELF.. > > > > > > > > whatever name you give it.. > > > > > > > > is NEVER absent. > > > > > > > > that is an ABSOLUTE impossibility. > > > > > > > > and sitting around in the clouds talking about it.. > > > > > > > > changes nothing or no one. > > > > > > > > the only way anything is ever 'learned' or 'known' is through > > SELF. > > > > > > > > no one ever taught you anything. > > > > > > > > can you explain to someone how to walk? > > > > > > > > if that were a possibility you'd make a trillion dollars...fast. > > > > > > > > when a baby starts to walk or talk or learn or teach.. > > > > > > > > all the 'other' can do is sit around and watch.. > > > > > > > > another one joins the game and another one bites the dust. > > > > > > > > that's the TRUTH. > > > > > > > > and the REAL TRUTH is there is no one but the ONE. > > > > > > > > books are from and to the SELF. > > > > > > > > everything known, taught, or learned...you already KNOW. > > > > > > > > how the heck can it be otherwise? > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , diana shellam > > <diana.shellam@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > good question..diana > > > > > > > > > > iietsa <iietsa@> wrote: --- In > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know my own natural nature... > > > > > > > and that everything is in it... > > > > > > > but how to comunicate this in words to a taking-himself- for- > > a- > > > > > body > > > > > > > that is also very sick with not so much time left ? > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for what? > > > > > > > > > > > > what difference would it make if you could. > > > > > > > > > > > > there's all the time 'in' the world, as well as 'out' of it > > too. > > > > > > > > > > > > time is not something someone has a little or a lot of.. > > > > > > > > > > > > time isn't a 'something'.. > > > > > > > > > > > > that a 'somewhat' or 'someone' 'moves' through. > > > > > > > > > > > > the question is wrongheaded, misplaced, and very > > unenlightened. > > > > > > > > > > > > you obviously DON'T know the True Nature of anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > nap time iietsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > don't hurry though... > > > > > > > > > > > > 'you' can take as much 'time' as needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > it's all really nothing at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yee I see your point...even with the question being > > wrongheaded, > > > > > misplaced, and very unenlightened... > > > > > but to the taking-himself-for-a-body-mind... > > > > > this body-mind-life seems very, very real...and painful... > > > > > ...are you saying...ignore it...and let the unreal > > self...suffer its > > > > > unreal pain...that is not there...? > > > > > if it is I can understand in a way... > > > > > but in my heart...that there seems to be a power that > > really " wants " > > > > > the love to shine thru the non-problem, > > > > > instead of just closing the door to the non-problem... > > > > > do you understand ? > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2008 say bbb... when you drank too much and passed out, how long was it til you woke up again... ....iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and it wasn't your question that was rated as not good. > > > > > > > > it was the question of the one who's question you rated as good. > > > > > > > > it's all good actually. > > > > > > > > but pontificating bothers me. > > > > > > > > especially when it's from one who does nothing but pontificate. > > > > > > > > but i like that little iietsa guy too. > > > > > > > > he's cute. > > > > > > > > but he doesn't understand himself or the SELF.. > > > > > > > > and that irks me because if he would stop 'trying' so hard.. > > > > > > > > to tell others what they already profoundly know and > understand.. > > > > > > > > he might stand a chance of understanding that he doesn't > understand. > > > > > > > > i'm rooting for him but hope can only go so far. > > > > > > > > he has to do the rest for himself. > > > > > > > > that's the whole premise and essence of everything being said. > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > I just asked one sincere question.... > > > then all this crap keeps coming along... > > > give yourself some rest and space... > > > and the words will not be running forth like mad dogs barfing at > > > everything...its not a war...remember... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > oh grow up! > > > > no one said it was war. > > > > but you are consistently trying to be grandiloquent. > > > > and kid..you ain't. > > > > and talk about crap... > > > > reread your own stuff. > > > > that's the way to really get to know yourself. > > > > and if your honest with yourself.. > > > > yopu'll quit saying stupid things like: > > > > " I know my own true nature. " > > > > that's a fart in the wind kid. > > > > NO ONE 'knows' their own nature. > > > > what utter bullshit. > > > > if it were true iietsa.. > > > > you wouldn't have the audacity... > > > > nor stupidity.. > > > > to try and convince others of it. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > grandiloquent...audacity... > now I can see why you always label me kid or child... > how old are you...really... > ...iietsa as old as my tongue and a wee bit older than my teeth. santa always answers his pretentious children truthfully. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2008 this too you didn't understand? oh my! this is worse than i thought. LOL! ..b b.b. Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > oh you lost me there...which churh was it again...? > and can you please send a map too... > ...iietsa > > > no 'maby' about it. > > > > maybe you should read my answer. > > > > it would do you good son. > > > > but it's you who dream of popehood. > > > > and no one is joining the church. > > > > dream on little one. > > > > > > .b b.b > > > > p.s. > > > > you're welcome for the answer. > > > > now you finally have one. > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > maby bbb the pope can answer that one > > > > > > > what does pontificating mean? > > > > > > > > roberibus111 <Roberibus111@> wrote: ah shucks > > > diana...you knew the answer all along. > > > > > > > > and it wasn't your question that was rated as not good. > > > > > > > > it was the question of the one who's question you rated as good. > > > > > > > > it's all good actually. > > > > > > > > but pontificating bothers me. > > > > > > > > especially when it's from one who does nothing but pontificate. > > > > > > > > but i like that little iietsa guy too. > > > > > > > > he's cute. > > > > > > > > but he doesn't understand himself or the SELF.. > > > > > > > > and that irks me because if he would stop 'trying' so hard.. > > > > > > > > to tell others what they already profoundly know and > understand.. > > > > > > > > he might stand a chance of understanding that he doesn't > understand. > > > > > > > > i'm rooting for him but hope can only go so far. > > > > > > > > he has to do the rest for himself. > > > > > > > > that's the whole premise and essence of everything being said. > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , diana shellam > <diana.shellam@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > thank you rob, without the apparent my not good question, that > > > > apparent answer would not have been seen/read.. thank you, > diana > > > (wish > > > > i was a lady puppet) > > > > > > > > > > roberibus111 <Roberibus111@> wrote: no it's not a good > > > > question lady di. > > > > > > > > > > Love..Consciousness...Being..THAT..SELF.. > > > > > > > > > > whatever name you give it.. > > > > > > > > > > is NEVER absent. > > > > > > > > > > that is an ABSOLUTE impossibility. > > > > > > > > > > and sitting around in the clouds talking about it.. > > > > > > > > > > changes nothing or no one. > > > > > > > > > > the only way anything is ever 'learned' or 'known' is through > > > SELF. > > > > > > > > > > no one ever taught you anything. > > > > > > > > > > can you explain to someone how to walk? > > > > > > > > > > if that were a possibility you'd make a trillion > dollars...fast. > > > > > > > > > > when a baby starts to walk or talk or learn or teach.. > > > > > > > > > > all the 'other' can do is sit around and watch.. > > > > > > > > > > another one joins the game and another one bites the dust. > > > > > > > > > > that's the TRUTH. > > > > > > > > > > and the REAL TRUTH is there is no one but the ONE. > > > > > > > > > > books are from and to the SELF. > > > > > > > > > > everything known, taught, or learned...you already KNOW. > > > > > > > > > > how the heck can it be otherwise? > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , diana shellam > > > <diana.shellam@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > good question..diana > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa <iietsa@> wrote: --- In > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know my own natural nature... > > > > > > > > and that everything is in it... > > > > > > > > but how to comunicate this in words to a taking-himself- > for- > > > a- > > > > > > body > > > > > > > > that is also very sick with not so much time left ? > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for what? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what difference would it make if you could. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's all the time 'in' the world, as well as 'out' of > it > > > too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time is not something someone has a little or a lot of.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time isn't a 'something'.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that a 'somewhat' or 'someone' 'moves' through. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the question is wrongheaded, misplaced, and very > > > unenlightened. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you obviously DON'T know the True Nature of anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nap time iietsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't hurry though... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'you' can take as much 'time' as needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's all really nothing at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yee I see your point...even with the question being > > > wrongheaded, > > > > > > misplaced, and very unenlightened... > > > > > > but to the taking-himself-for-a-body-mind... > > > > > > this body-mind-life seems very, very real...and painful... > > > > > > ...are you saying...ignore it...and let the unreal > > > self...suffer its > > > > > > unreal pain...that is not there...? > > > > > > if it is I can understand in a way... > > > > > > but in my heart...that there seems to be a power that > > > really " wants " > > > > > > the love to shine thru the non-problem, > > > > > > instead of just closing the door to the non-problem... > > > > > > do you understand ? > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > > > say bbb... > when you drank too much and passed out, > how long was it til you woke up again... > ...iietsa i've never drank too much. are you drunk? ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and it wasn't your question that was rated as not good. > > > > > > > > > > it was the question of the one who's question you rated as good. > > > > > > > > > > it's all good actually. > > > > > > > > > > but pontificating bothers me. > > > > > > > > > > especially when it's from one who does nothing but pontificate. > > > > > > > > > > but i like that little iietsa guy too. > > > > > > > > > > he's cute. > > > > > > > > > > but he doesn't understand himself or the SELF.. > > > > > > > > > > and that irks me because if he would stop 'trying' so hard.. > > > > > > > > > > to tell others what they already profoundly know and > > understand.. > > > > > > > > > > he might stand a chance of understanding that he doesn't > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > i'm rooting for him but hope can only go so far. > > > > > > > > > > he has to do the rest for himself. > > > > > > > > > > that's the whole premise and essence of everything being said. > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > I just asked one sincere question.... > > > > then all this crap keeps coming along... > > > > give yourself some rest and space... > > > > and the words will not be running forth like mad dogs barfing at > > > > everything...its not a war...remember... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > oh grow up! > > > > > > no one said it was war. > > > > > > but you are consistently trying to be grandiloquent. > > > > > > and kid..you ain't. > > > > > > and talk about crap... > > > > > > reread your own stuff. > > > > > > that's the way to really get to know yourself. > > > > > > and if your honest with yourself.. > > > > > > yopu'll quit saying stupid things like: > > > > > > " I know my own true nature. " > > > > > > that's a fart in the wind kid. > > > > > > NO ONE 'knows' their own nature. > > > > > > what utter bullshit. > > > > > > if it were true iietsa.. > > > > > > you wouldn't have the audacity... > > > > > > nor stupidity.. > > > > > > to try and convince others of it. > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > grandiloquent...audacity... > > now I can see why you always label me kid or child... > > how old are you...really... > > ...iietsa > > > > > > as old as my tongue and a wee bit older than my teeth. > > santa always answers his pretentious children truthfully. > > .b b.b. > ....enjoy the teeth period while it lasts... ....and the tongue period as well... ....iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2008 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > say bbb... > > when you drank too much and passed out, > > how long was it til you woke up again... > > ...iietsa > > > > i've never drank too much. > > are you drunk? > > .b b.b. > so it was something else...you old hippy... thats why all that smoke is still around you... ....iietsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > say bbb... > > > when you drank too much and passed out, > > > how long was it til you woke up again... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > i've never drank too much. > > > > are you drunk? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > so it was something else...you old hippy... > thats why all that smoke is still around you... > ...iietsa no one passes out from weed. and besides sonny.. i never ever 'drank' marijuana. you are a lunatic. and for such a phony little saint.. you sure are sounding pissed off. LOL! ..b b.b. p.s. " time is not something someone has a little or a lot of.. time isn't a 'something'.. that a 'somewhat' or 'someone' 'moves' through. " remember? of course our little boy doesn't remember. i know you need a refresher.. hell it's been the better part of a day since we went over that. so... asking something as feebleminded as: " how long was it til you woke up again... " ... shows that you need many lessons to understand just one simple fact. it will take an infinite amount of lessons for you to grasp any more. i'm here for you kid. ...but say...are you on short term memory loss drugs? or is this just a childish 'acting up' thing you do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2008 i smoke marijuana nearly every day..yes it does affect my memory and thats not a bad thing really, at least i remember that ive forgotton who i really am...rest not important.. do anyone else here use it? dianaroberibus111 <Roberibus111 wrote: Nisargadatta , "iietsa" <iietsa wrote:>> Nisargadatta , "roberibus111" > <Roberibus111@> wrote:> >> > Nisargadatta , "iietsa" <iietsa@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > > > > say bbb...> > > when you drank too much and passed out,> > > how long was it til you woke up again...> > > ...iietsa> > > > > > > > i've never drank too much.> > > > are you drunk?> > > > .b b.b.> >> > > so it was something else...you old hippy...> thats why all that smoke is still around you...> ...iietsano one passes out from weed.and besides sonny..i never ever 'drank' marijuana.you are a lunatic.and for such a phony little saint..you sure are sounding pissed off.LOL!.b b.b.p.s."time is not something someone has a little or a lot of..time isn't a 'something'..that a 'somewhat' or 'someone' 'moves' through."remember?of course our little boy doesn't remember.i know you need a refresher..hell it's been the better part of a day since we went over that.so...asking something as feebleminded as:"how long was it til you woke up again..."...shows that you need many lessons to understand just one simple fact.it will take an infinite amount of lessons for you to grasp any more.i'm here for you kid...but say...are you on short term memory loss drugs?or is this just a childish 'acting up' thing you do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2008 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and it wasn't your question that was rated as not good. > > > > > > > > > > > > it was the question of the one who's question you rated as > good. > > > > > > > > > > > > it's all good actually. > > > > > > > > > > > > but pontificating bothers me. > > > > > > > > > > > > especially when it's from one who does nothing but > pontificate. > > > > > > > > > > > > but i like that little iietsa guy too. > > > > > > > > > > > > he's cute. > > > > > > > > > > > > but he doesn't understand himself or the SELF.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and that irks me because if he would stop 'trying' so hard.. > > > > > > > > > > > > to tell others what they already profoundly know and > > > understand.. > > > > > > > > > > > > he might stand a chance of understanding that he doesn't > > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm rooting for him but hope can only go so far. > > > > > > > > > > > > he has to do the rest for himself. > > > > > > > > > > > > that's the whole premise and essence of everything being > said. > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just asked one sincere question.... > > > > > then all this crap keeps coming along... > > > > > give yourself some rest and space... > > > > > and the words will not be running forth like mad dogs barfing > at > > > > > everything...its not a war...remember... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > oh grow up! > > > > > > > > no one said it was war. > > > > > > > > but you are consistently trying to be grandiloquent. > > > > > > > > and kid..you ain't. > > > > > > > > and talk about crap... > > > > > > > > reread your own stuff. > > > > > > > > that's the way to really get to know yourself. > > > > > > > > and if your honest with yourself.. > > > > > > > > yopu'll quit saying stupid things like: > > > > > > > > " I know my own true nature. " > > > > > > > > that's a fart in the wind kid. > > > > > > > > NO ONE 'knows' their own nature. > > > > > > > > what utter bullshit. > > > > > > > > if it were true iietsa.. > > > > > > > > you wouldn't have the audacity... > > > > > > > > nor stupidity.. > > > > > > > > to try and convince others of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > grandiloquent...audacity... > > > now I can see why you always label me kid or child... > > > how old are you...really... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > as old as my tongue and a wee bit older than my teeth. > > > > santa always answers his pretentious children truthfully. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > ...enjoy the teeth period while it lasts... > ...and the tongue period as well... > ...iietsa i do enjoy them..period. i will enjoy them..period. you can't enjoy them...period. that would be like you trying to touch your right elbow.. with your right hand. you can't do that.. but baba can touch it with his right hand. see? of course you don't. but there are a few things baba can't do for you... he cannot eat for you.. he can't urinate for you.. he is unable to defecate for you.. and he'll be damned if he's going to play with you. you MUST do that alone. you already know all this but as a young sprog.. between birth and puberty.. you don't understand what you already know. that's ok.. that's why you give us so many chuckles. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
