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one can never lose ones true nature...

just as one can never gain it...

words changes nothing...

it does not matter if they are spoken from the heart of wisdom...

or they come from the king of ignorance...

to stick with some words or ideas...

as if they were better or higher...

changes nothing...

the men that holds some thoughts as higher...

is always ready to fight a war...with swords and shields...

....and this is the army of the ignorant king has been around for aeons.

 

I know some swords are already swinging...

but there is really nothing to hit...

and becase there is nothing to hit...

what good is swords and shields...

....iietsa

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Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote:

>

> one can never lose ones true nature...

> just as one can never gain it...

> words changes nothing...

> it does not matter if they are spoken from the heart of wisdom...

> or they come from the king of ignorance...

> to stick with some words or ideas...

> as if they were better or higher...

> changes nothing...

> the men that holds some thoughts as higher...

> is always ready to fight a war...with swords and shields...

> ...and this is the army of the ignorant king has been around for aeons.

>

> I know some swords are already swinging...

> but there is really nothing to hit...

> and becase there is nothing to hit...

> what good is swords and shields...

> ...iietsa

 

 

what swords and shields?

 

if there is nothing to hit there is nothing to hit with...

 

nor is there a king of ignorance nor king of wisdom.

 

only ignorance would 'think' so.

 

your words here iietsa are a:

 

" tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. "

 

you're welcome and may accept gladly baba's truthful critique.

 

Bringing you Tidings of Great Joy:

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> >

> > one can never lose ones true nature...

> > just as one can never gain it...

> > words changes nothing...

> > it does not matter if they are spoken from the heart of wisdom...

> > or they come from the king of ignorance...

> > to stick with some words or ideas...

> > as if they were better or higher...

> > changes nothing...

> > the men that holds some thoughts as higher...

> > is always ready to fight a war...with swords and shields...

> > ...and this is the army of the ignorant king has been around for

aeons.

> >

> > I know some swords are already swinging...

> > but there is really nothing to hit...

> > and becase there is nothing to hit...

> > what good is swords and shields...

> > ...iietsa

>

>

> what swords and shields?

>

> if there is nothing to hit there is nothing to hit with...

>

> nor is there a king of ignorance nor king of wisdom.

>

> only ignorance would 'think' so.

>

> your words here iietsa are a:

>

> " tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying

nothing. "

>

> you're welcome and may accept gladly baba's truthful critique.

>

> Bringing you Tidings of Great Joy:

>

> .b b.b.

>

 

in the beginning there is perfect understanding ...

nothing to hit...nothing to hit with...no ignorance...no wisdom...

 

....then from nowhere... " an idiot " ...ends the perfect understanding

....iietsa

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Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > >

> > > one can never lose ones true nature...

> > > just as one can never gain it...

> > > words changes nothing...

> > > it does not matter if they are spoken from the heart of wisdom...

> > > or they come from the king of ignorance...

> > > to stick with some words or ideas...

> > > as if they were better or higher...

> > > changes nothing...

> > > the men that holds some thoughts as higher...

> > > is always ready to fight a war...with swords and shields...

> > > ...and this is the army of the ignorant king has been around for

> aeons.

> > >

> > > I know some swords are already swinging...

> > > but there is really nothing to hit...

> > > and becase there is nothing to hit...

> > > what good is swords and shields...

> > > ...iietsa

> >

> >

> > what swords and shields?

> >

> > if there is nothing to hit there is nothing to hit with...

> >

> > nor is there a king of ignorance nor king of wisdom.

> >

> > only ignorance would 'think' so.

> >

> > your words here iietsa are a:

> >

> > " tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying

> nothing. "

> >

> > you're welcome and may accept gladly baba's truthful critique.

> >

> > Bringing you Tidings of Great Joy:

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

>

> in the beginning there is perfect understanding ...

> nothing to hit...nothing to hit with...no ignorance...no wisdom...

>

> ...then from nowhere... " an idiot " ...ends the perfect understanding

> ...iietsa

 

 

 

 

thank you for that admission and confession.

 

god rest your guilty idiot soul.

 

until s/he does...

 

keep playing with your swords and shields and snakes and ladders.

 

what a sweet child!

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > one can never lose ones true nature...

> > > > just as one can never gain it...

> > > > words changes nothing...

> > > > it does not matter if they are spoken from the heart of

wisdom...

> > > > or they come from the king of ignorance...

> > > > to stick with some words or ideas...

> > > > as if they were better or higher...

> > > > changes nothing...

> > > > the men that holds some thoughts as higher...

> > > > is always ready to fight a war...with swords and shields...

> > > > ...and this is the army of the ignorant king has been around

for

> > aeons.

> > > >

> > > > I know some swords are already swinging...

> > > > but there is really nothing to hit...

> > > > and becase there is nothing to hit...

> > > > what good is swords and shields...

> > > > ...iietsa

> > >

> > >

> > > what swords and shields?

> > >

> > > if there is nothing to hit there is nothing to hit with...

> > >

> > > nor is there a king of ignorance nor king of wisdom.

> > >

> > > only ignorance would 'think' so.

> > >

> > > your words here iietsa are a:

> > >

> > > " tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying

> > nothing. "

> > >

> > > you're welcome and may accept gladly baba's truthful critique.

> > >

> > > Bringing you Tidings of Great Joy:

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> >

> > in the beginning there is perfect understanding ...

> > nothing to hit...nothing to hit with...no ignorance...no

wisdom...

> >

> > ...then from nowhere... " an idiot " ...ends the perfect

understanding

> > ...iietsa

>

>

>

>

> thank you for that admission and confession.

>

> god rest your guilty idiot soul.

>

> until s/he does...

>

> keep playing with your swords and shields and snakes and ladders.

>

> what a sweet child!

>

> .b b.b.

>

 

the perfect understanding is that there is nothing...

but somehow...from nowhere... " a guilty idiot soul " ...

ends this understanding...

....there is not an idiot and no confession...

there is nothing...

just stop there...

and dont let any thoughtdelude you even with a sweet child idea...

....iietsa

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Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > one can never lose ones true nature...

> > > > > just as one can never gain it...

> > > > > words changes nothing...

> > > > > it does not matter if they are spoken from the heart of

> wisdom...

> > > > > or they come from the king of ignorance...

> > > > > to stick with some words or ideas...

> > > > > as if they were better or higher...

> > > > > changes nothing...

> > > > > the men that holds some thoughts as higher...

> > > > > is always ready to fight a war...with swords and shields...

> > > > > ...and this is the army of the ignorant king has been around

> for

> > > aeons.

> > > > >

> > > > > I know some swords are already swinging...

> > > > > but there is really nothing to hit...

> > > > > and becase there is nothing to hit...

> > > > > what good is swords and shields...

> > > > > ...iietsa

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > what swords and shields?

> > > >

> > > > if there is nothing to hit there is nothing to hit with...

> > > >

> > > > nor is there a king of ignorance nor king of wisdom.

> > > >

> > > > only ignorance would 'think' so.

> > > >

> > > > your words here iietsa are a:

> > > >

> > > > " tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying

> > > nothing. "

> > > >

> > > > you're welcome and may accept gladly baba's truthful critique.

> > > >

> > > > Bringing you Tidings of Great Joy:

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > >

> > > in the beginning there is perfect understanding ...

> > > nothing to hit...nothing to hit with...no ignorance...no

> wisdom...

> > >

> > > ...then from nowhere... " an idiot " ...ends the perfect

> understanding

> > > ...iietsa

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > thank you for that admission and confession.

> >

> > god rest your guilty idiot soul.

> >

> > until s/he does...

> >

> > keep playing with your swords and shields and snakes and ladders.

> >

> > what a sweet child!

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

>

> the perfect understanding is that there is nothing...

> but somehow...from nowhere... " a guilty idiot soul " ...

> ends this understanding...

> ...there is not an idiot and no confession...

> there is nothing...

> just stop there...

> and dont let any thoughtdelude you even with a sweet child idea...

> ...iietsa

 

 

why speak if there is nothing?

 

there's nothing to speak about in that case.

 

you make no sense child.

 

the only one deluded here is you.

 

it's not that you see things..

 

you see nothing.

 

your understanding is about as perfect as a defective blemish.

 

whenever you do grow up you will stop this silliness.

 

but that is going to require years of discovering how wrong you are...

 

about everything that you call nothing and can't stop talking about.

 

sorry kid but you're a fool.

 

are you a chubby hare krishna freak?

 

LOL!

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > one can never lose ones true nature...

> > > > > > just as one can never gain it...

> > > > > > words changes nothing...

> > > > > > it does not matter if they are spoken from the heart of

> > wisdom...

> > > > > > or they come from the king of ignorance...

> > > > > > to stick with some words or ideas...

> > > > > > as if they were better or higher...

> > > > > > changes nothing...

> > > > > > the men that holds some thoughts as higher...

> > > > > > is always ready to fight a war...with swords and

shields...

> > > > > > ...and this is the army of the ignorant king has been

around

> > for

> > > > aeons.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I know some swords are already swinging...

> > > > > > but there is really nothing to hit...

> > > > > > and becase there is nothing to hit...

> > > > > > what good is swords and shields...

> > > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > what swords and shields?

> > > > >

> > > > > if there is nothing to hit there is nothing to hit with...

> > > > >

> > > > > nor is there a king of ignorance nor king of wisdom.

> > > > >

> > > > > only ignorance would 'think' so.

> > > > >

> > > > > your words here iietsa are a:

> > > > >

> > > > > " tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying

> > > > nothing. "

> > > > >

> > > > > you're welcome and may accept gladly baba's truthful

critique.

> > > > >

> > > > > Bringing you Tidings of Great Joy:

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > in the beginning there is perfect understanding ...

> > > > nothing to hit...nothing to hit with...no ignorance...no

> > wisdom...

> > > >

> > > > ...then from nowhere... " an idiot " ...ends the perfect

> > understanding

> > > > ...iietsa

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > thank you for that admission and confession.

> > >

> > > god rest your guilty idiot soul.

> > >

> > > until s/he does...

> > >

> > > keep playing with your swords and shields and snakes and

ladders.

> > >

> > > what a sweet child!

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> >

> > the perfect understanding is that there is nothing...

> > but somehow...from nowhere... " a guilty idiot soul " ...

> > ends this understanding...

> > ...there is not an idiot and no confession...

> > there is nothing...

> > just stop there...

> > and dont let any thoughtdelude you even with a sweet child

idea...

> > ...iietsa

>

>

> why speak if there is nothing?

>

> there's nothing to speak about in that case.

>

> you make no sense child.

>

> the only one deluded here is you.

>

> it's not that you see things..

>

> you see nothing.

>

> your understanding is about as perfect as a defective blemish.

>

> whenever you do grow up you will stop this silliness.

>

> but that is going to require years of discovering how wrong you

are...

>

> about everything that you call nothing and can't stop talking

about.

>

> sorry kid but you're a fool.

>

> are you a chubby hare krishna freak?

>

> LOL!

>

> .b b.b.

>

 

from nowhere...

a child with a defective blemish appears...

that you thinks is going to grow up...

then you say that, that kid is a fool...

....in truth there is nothing...really...

what appears to you is only mind-ghosts...

take away the mind-gosts...and there is nothing...

nothing more to be pissed about...

and noone to be pissed...

....iietsa

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Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote:

>

> one can never lose ones true nature...

> just as one can never gain it...

 

 

Aha !

 

If you know so much about true nature then please tell me what is the

false nature ?

 

Werner

 

 

> words changes nothing...

> it does not matter if they are spoken from the heart of wisdom...

> or they come from the king of ignorance...

> to stick with some words or ideas...

> as if they were better or higher...

> changes nothing...

> the men that holds some thoughts as higher...

> is always ready to fight a war...with swords and shields...

> ...and this is the army of the ignorant king has been around for aeons.

>

> I know some swords are already swinging...

> but there is really nothing to hit...

> and becase there is nothing to hit...

> what good is swords and shields...

> ...iietsa

>

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Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@>

> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > one can never lose ones true nature...

> > > > > > > just as one can never gain it...

> > > > > > > words changes nothing...

> > > > > > > it does not matter if they are spoken from the heart of

> > > wisdom...

> > > > > > > or they come from the king of ignorance...

> > > > > > > to stick with some words or ideas...

> > > > > > > as if they were better or higher...

> > > > > > > changes nothing...

> > > > > > > the men that holds some thoughts as higher...

> > > > > > > is always ready to fight a war...with swords and

> shields...

> > > > > > > ...and this is the army of the ignorant king has been

> around

> > > for

> > > > > aeons.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I know some swords are already swinging...

> > > > > > > but there is really nothing to hit...

> > > > > > > and becase there is nothing to hit...

> > > > > > > what good is swords and shields...

> > > > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > what swords and shields?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > if there is nothing to hit there is nothing to hit with...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > nor is there a king of ignorance nor king of wisdom.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > only ignorance would 'think' so.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > your words here iietsa are a:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying

> > > > > nothing. "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > you're welcome and may accept gladly baba's truthful

> critique.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bringing you Tidings of Great Joy:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > in the beginning there is perfect understanding ...

> > > > > nothing to hit...nothing to hit with...no ignorance...no

> > > wisdom...

> > > > >

> > > > > ...then from nowhere... " an idiot " ...ends the perfect

> > > understanding

> > > > > ...iietsa

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > thank you for that admission and confession.

> > > >

> > > > god rest your guilty idiot soul.

> > > >

> > > > until s/he does...

> > > >

> > > > keep playing with your swords and shields and snakes and

> ladders.

> > > >

> > > > what a sweet child!

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > >

> > > the perfect understanding is that there is nothing...

> > > but somehow...from nowhere... " a guilty idiot soul " ...

> > > ends this understanding...

> > > ...there is not an idiot and no confession...

> > > there is nothing...

> > > just stop there...

> > > and dont let any thoughtdelude you even with a sweet child

> idea...

> > > ...iietsa

> >

> >

> > why speak if there is nothing?

> >

> > there's nothing to speak about in that case.

> >

> > you make no sense child.

> >

> > the only one deluded here is you.

> >

> > it's not that you see things..

> >

> > you see nothing.

> >

> > your understanding is about as perfect as a defective blemish.

> >

> > whenever you do grow up you will stop this silliness.

> >

> > but that is going to require years of discovering how wrong you

> are...

> >

> > about everything that you call nothing and can't stop talking

> about.

> >

> > sorry kid but you're a fool.

> >

> > are you a chubby hare krishna freak?

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

>

> from nowhere...

> a child with a defective blemish appears...

> that you thinks is going to grow up...

> then you say that, that kid is a fool...

> ...in truth there is nothing...really...

> what appears to you is only mind-ghosts...

> take away the mind-gosts...and there is nothing...

> nothing more to be pissed about...

> and noone to be pissed...

> ...iietsa

 

 

who's pissed?

 

you've got to be kidding kid.

 

you're too insignificant to have any feelings about whatsoever.

 

it seems that the mind-ghost iietsa can't stop shitting his pants.

 

you go on and on and on and on and on..

 

about how there is nothing to go on about.

 

i'm beginning to get the idea that you're as nutzoid as wernie poo.

 

LOL!

 

you're a barrel of laughs you foolish kid.

 

:-)

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote:

>

> one can never lose ones true nature...

> just as one can never gain it...

> words changes nothing...

> it does not matter if they are spoken from the heart of wisdom...

> or they come from the king of ignorance...

> to stick with some words or ideas...

> as if they were better or higher...

> changes nothing...

> the men that holds some thoughts as higher...

> is always ready to fight a war...with swords and shields...

> ...and this is the army of the ignorant king has been around for

aeons.

>

> I know some swords are already swinging...

> but there is really nothing to hit...

> and becase there is nothing to hit...

> what good is swords and shields...

> ...iietsa

>

can...

you...

tell...

me...

then...

what...

good...

are...

these...

words...

for...

then.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > one can never lose ones true nature...

> > > > just as one can never gain it...

> > > > words changes nothing...

> > > > it does not matter if they are spoken from the heart of

wisdom...

> > > > or they come from the king of ignorance...

> > > > to stick with some words or ideas...

> > > > as if they were better or higher...

> > > > changes nothing...

> > > > the men that holds some thoughts as higher...

> > > > is always ready to fight a war...with swords and shields...

> > > > ...and this is the army of the ignorant king has been around

for

> > aeons.

> > > >

> > > > I know some swords are already swinging...

> > > > but there is really nothing to hit...

> > > > and becase there is nothing to hit...

> > > > what good is swords and shields...

> > > > ...iietsa

> > >

> > >

> > > what swords and shields?

> > >

> > > if there is nothing to hit there is nothing to hit with...

> > >

> > > nor is there a king of ignorance nor king of wisdom.

> > >

> > > only ignorance would 'think' so.

> > >

> > > your words here iietsa are a:

> > >

> > > " tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying

> > nothing. "

> > >

> > > you're welcome and may accept gladly baba's truthful critique.

> > >

> > > Bringing you Tidings of Great Joy:

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> >

> > in the beginning there is perfect understanding ...

> > nothing to hit...nothing to hit with...no ignorance...no

wisdom...

> >

> > ...then from nowhere... " an idiot " ...ends the perfect

understanding

> > ...iietsa

>

>

>

>

> thank you for that admission and confession.

>

> god rest your guilty idiot soul.

>

> until s/he does...

>

> keep playing with your swords and shields and snakes and ladders.

>

> what a sweet child!

>

> .b b.b.

>

 

You make a sweet couple!

 

:)))) ))))))) ))))))))))

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Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > one can never lose ones true nature...

> > > > > just as one can never gain it...

> > > > > words changes nothing...

> > > > > it does not matter if they are spoken from the heart of

> wisdom...

> > > > > or they come from the king of ignorance...

> > > > > to stick with some words or ideas...

> > > > > as if they were better or higher...

> > > > > changes nothing...

> > > > > the men that holds some thoughts as higher...

> > > > > is always ready to fight a war...with swords and shields...

> > > > > ...and this is the army of the ignorant king has been around

> for

> > > aeons.

> > > > >

> > > > > I know some swords are already swinging...

> > > > > but there is really nothing to hit...

> > > > > and becase there is nothing to hit...

> > > > > what good is swords and shields...

> > > > > ...iietsa

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > what swords and shields?

> > > >

> > > > if there is nothing to hit there is nothing to hit with...

> > > >

> > > > nor is there a king of ignorance nor king of wisdom.

> > > >

> > > > only ignorance would 'think' so.

> > > >

> > > > your words here iietsa are a:

> > > >

> > > > " tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying

> > > nothing. "

> > > >

> > > > you're welcome and may accept gladly baba's truthful critique.

> > > >

> > > > Bringing you Tidings of Great Joy:

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > >

> > > in the beginning there is perfect understanding ...

> > > nothing to hit...nothing to hit with...no ignorance...no

> wisdom...

> > >

> > > ...then from nowhere... " an idiot " ...ends the perfect

> understanding

> > > ...iietsa

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > thank you for that admission and confession.

> >

> > god rest your guilty idiot soul.

> >

> > until s/he does...

> >

> > keep playing with your swords and shields and snakes and ladders.

> >

> > what a sweet child!

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

>

> You make a sweet couple!

>

> :

 

 

like you and the plastic doll..

 

only not quite as perverted as you punchy pancho.

 

and do something about that paunch tubs..

 

it's disgusting..

 

charli told me.

 

LOL!

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > one can never lose ones true nature...

> > > > > > just as one can never gain it...

> > > > > > words changes nothing...

> > > > > > it does not matter if they are spoken from the heart of

> > wisdom...

> > > > > > or they come from the king of ignorance...

> > > > > > to stick with some words or ideas...

> > > > > > as if they were better or higher...

> > > > > > changes nothing...

> > > > > > the men that holds some thoughts as higher...

> > > > > > is always ready to fight a war...with swords and

shields...

> > > > > > ...and this is the army of the ignorant king has been

around

> > for

> > > > aeons.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I know some swords are already swinging...

> > > > > > but there is really nothing to hit...

> > > > > > and becase there is nothing to hit...

> > > > > > what good is swords and shields...

> > > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > what swords and shields?

> > > > >

> > > > > if there is nothing to hit there is nothing to hit with...

> > > > >

> > > > > nor is there a king of ignorance nor king of wisdom.

> > > > >

> > > > > only ignorance would 'think' so.

> > > > >

> > > > > your words here iietsa are a:

> > > > >

> > > > > " tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying

> > > > nothing. "

> > > > >

> > > > > you're welcome and may accept gladly baba's truthful

critique.

> > > > >

> > > > > Bringing you Tidings of Great Joy:

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > in the beginning there is perfect understanding ...

> > > > nothing to hit...nothing to hit with...no ignorance...no

> > wisdom...

> > > >

> > > > ...then from nowhere... " an idiot " ...ends the perfect

> > understanding

> > > > ...iietsa

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > thank you for that admission and confession.

> > >

> > > god rest your guilty idiot soul.

> > >

> > > until s/he does...

> > >

> > > keep playing with your swords and shields and snakes and

ladders.

> > >

> > > what a sweet child!

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> >

> > You make a sweet couple!

> >

> > :

>

>

> like you and the plastic doll..

>

> only not quite as perverted as you punchy pancho.

>

> and do something about that paunch tubs..

>

> it's disgusting..

>

> charli told me.

>

> LOL!

>

> .b b.b.

>

 

Have you been seeing Charli as well...Bb?

 

:))))))) )))))))) ))))))))))

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Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@>

> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > one can never lose ones true nature...

> > > > > > > just as one can never gain it...

> > > > > > > words changes nothing...

> > > > > > > it does not matter if they are spoken from the heart of

> > > wisdom...

> > > > > > > or they come from the king of ignorance...

> > > > > > > to stick with some words or ideas...

> > > > > > > as if they were better or higher...

> > > > > > > changes nothing...

> > > > > > > the men that holds some thoughts as higher...

> > > > > > > is always ready to fight a war...with swords and

> shields...

> > > > > > > ...and this is the army of the ignorant king has been

> around

> > > for

> > > > > aeons.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I know some swords are already swinging...

> > > > > > > but there is really nothing to hit...

> > > > > > > and becase there is nothing to hit...

> > > > > > > what good is swords and shields...

> > > > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > what swords and shields?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > if there is nothing to hit there is nothing to hit with...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > nor is there a king of ignorance nor king of wisdom.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > only ignorance would 'think' so.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > your words here iietsa are a:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying

> > > > > nothing. "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > you're welcome and may accept gladly baba's truthful

> critique.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bringing you Tidings of Great Joy:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > in the beginning there is perfect understanding ...

> > > > > nothing to hit...nothing to hit with...no ignorance...no

> > > wisdom...

> > > > >

> > > > > ...then from nowhere... " an idiot " ...ends the perfect

> > > understanding

> > > > > ...iietsa

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > thank you for that admission and confession.

> > > >

> > > > god rest your guilty idiot soul.

> > > >

> > > > until s/he does...

> > > >

> > > > keep playing with your swords and shields and snakes and

> ladders.

> > > >

> > > > what a sweet child!

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > >

> > > You make a sweet couple!

> > >

> > > :

> >

> >

> > like you and the plastic doll..

> >

> > only not quite as perverted as you punchy pancho.

> >

> > and do something about that paunch tubs..

> >

> > it's disgusting..

> >

> > charli told me.

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

>

> Have you been seeing Charli as well...Bb?

>

> :))))))) )))))))) ))))))))))

 

 

 

 

 

 

:-)

 

she says you don't understand goodbye.

 

she says you can't let go.

 

she says you're a loser and a wimp.

 

she says you don't have any real manhood.

 

she says you're old.

 

she says you're so afraid of death AND life that it's funny.

 

she says.....

 

well let's just say i agree with (her..ha ha) on everything.

 

c'mon ~skyzie..let it all out..

 

we will all understand..

 

because we all know you are a crying loser just like charli knows it.

 

you should try a cup of coffee sometime.

 

it'll pick you up and you maybe won't be such a whiner.

 

LOL!

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> >

> > one can never lose ones true nature...

> > just as one can never gain it...

>

>

> Aha !

>

> If you know so much about true nature then please tell me what is

the

> false nature ?

>

> Werner

>

>

> > words changes nothing...

> > it does not matter if they are spoken from the heart of wisdom...

> > or they come from the king of ignorance...

> > to stick with some words or ideas...

> > as if they were better or higher...

> > changes nothing...

> > the men that holds some thoughts as higher...

> > is always ready to fight a war...with swords and shields...

> > ...and this is the army of the ignorant king has been around for

aeons.

> >

> > I know some swords are already swinging...

> > but there is really nothing to hit...

> > and becase there is nothing to hit...

> > what good is swords and shields...

> > ...iietsa

> >

>

 

there is neither " true " nor " false " ...

but one could say that concepts, is the false...

even the word " true " is a concept...

when one sees this it somehow loses its magic power and just dies...

and no more spells are there to fix...

....iietsa

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa "

<iietsa@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > one can never lose ones true nature...

> > > > > > > > just as one can never gain it...

> > > > > > > > words changes nothing...

> > > > > > > > it does not matter if they are spoken from the heart

of

> > > > wisdom...

> > > > > > > > or they come from the king of ignorance...

> > > > > > > > to stick with some words or ideas...

> > > > > > > > as if they were better or higher...

> > > > > > > > changes nothing...

> > > > > > > > the men that holds some thoughts as higher...

> > > > > > > > is always ready to fight a war...with swords and

> > shields...

> > > > > > > > ...and this is the army of the ignorant king has

been

> > around

> > > > for

> > > > > > aeons.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I know some swords are already swinging...

> > > > > > > > but there is really nothing to hit...

> > > > > > > > and becase there is nothing to hit...

> > > > > > > > what good is swords and shields...

> > > > > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > what swords and shields?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > if there is nothing to hit there is nothing to hit

with...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > nor is there a king of ignorance nor king of wisdom.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > only ignorance would 'think' so.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > your words here iietsa are a:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,

signifying

> > > > > > nothing. "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > you're welcome and may accept gladly baba's truthful

> > critique.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bringing you Tidings of Great Joy:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > in the beginning there is perfect understanding ...

> > > > > > nothing to hit...nothing to hit with...no ignorance...no

> > > > wisdom...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ...then from nowhere... " an idiot " ...ends the perfect

> > > > understanding

> > > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > thank you for that admission and confession.

> > > > >

> > > > > god rest your guilty idiot soul.

> > > > >

> > > > > until s/he does...

> > > > >

> > > > > keep playing with your swords and shields and snakes and

> > ladders.

> > > > >

> > > > > what a sweet child!

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > the perfect understanding is that there is nothing...

> > > > but somehow...from nowhere... " a guilty idiot soul " ...

> > > > ends this understanding...

> > > > ...there is not an idiot and no confession...

> > > > there is nothing...

> > > > just stop there...

> > > > and dont let any thoughtdelude you even with a sweet child

> > idea...

> > > > ...iietsa

> > >

> > >

> > > why speak if there is nothing?

> > >

> > > there's nothing to speak about in that case.

> > >

> > > you make no sense child.

> > >

> > > the only one deluded here is you.

> > >

> > > it's not that you see things..

> > >

> > > you see nothing.

> > >

> > > your understanding is about as perfect as a defective blemish.

> > >

> > > whenever you do grow up you will stop this silliness.

> > >

> > > but that is going to require years of discovering how wrong

you

> > are...

> > >

> > > about everything that you call nothing and can't stop talking

> > about.

> > >

> > > sorry kid but you're a fool.

> > >

> > > are you a chubby hare krishna freak?

> > >

> > > LOL!

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> >

> > from nowhere...

> > a child with a defective blemish appears...

> > that you thinks is going to grow up...

> > then you say that, that kid is a fool...

> > ...in truth there is nothing...really...

> > what appears to you is only mind-ghosts...

> > take away the mind-gosts...and there is nothing...

> > nothing more to be pissed about...

> > and noone to be pissed...

> > ...iietsa

>

>

> who's pissed?

>

> you've got to be kidding kid.

>

> you're too insignificant to have any feelings about whatsoever.

>

> it seems that the mind-ghost iietsa can't stop shitting his pants.

>

> you go on and on and on and on and on..

>

> about how there is nothing to go on about.

>

> i'm beginning to get the idea that you're as nutzoid as wernie poo.

>

> LOL!

>

> you're a barrel of laughs you foolish kid.

>

> :-)

>

> .b b.b.

>

 

no need for new formulations...

" nothing more to be pissed about...

and noone to be pissed... "

no need for questions like " who's pissed? "

....iietsa

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Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > >

> > > one can never lose ones true nature...

> > > just as one can never gain it...

> >

> >

> > Aha !

> >

> > If you know so much about true nature then please tell me what is

> the

> > false nature ?

> >

> > Werner

> >

> >

> > > words changes nothing...

> > > it does not matter if they are spoken from the heart of wisdom...

> > > or they come from the king of ignorance...

> > > to stick with some words or ideas...

> > > as if they were better or higher...

> > > changes nothing...

> > > the men that holds some thoughts as higher...

> > > is always ready to fight a war...with swords and shields...

> > > ...and this is the army of the ignorant king has been around for

> aeons.

> > >

> > > I know some swords are already swinging...

> > > but there is really nothing to hit...

> > > and becase there is nothing to hit...

> > > what good is swords and shields...

> > > ...iietsa

> > >

> >

>

> there is neither " true " nor " false " ...

> but one could say that concepts, is the false...

> even the word " true " is a concept...

> when one sees this it somehow loses its magic power and just dies...

> and no more spells are there to fix...

> ...iietsa

 

 

who the fuck is the 'one' who sees this?

 

there is no such one.

 

what's the matter with you kid?

 

'magic power'.......oh sweet jesus!

 

you watch too many fantasies..

 

you read too many trashy enlightenment comic books...

 

you think your shit doesn't stink.

 

here's a flash for you child..

 

it does stink and you are full of it too.

 

pee you!

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> >

> > one can never lose ones true nature...

> > just as one can never gain it...

> > words changes nothing...

> > it does not matter if they are spoken from the heart of wisdom...

> > or they come from the king of ignorance...

> > to stick with some words or ideas...

> > as if they were better or higher...

> > changes nothing...

> > the men that holds some thoughts as higher...

> > is always ready to fight a war...with swords and shields...

> > ...and this is the army of the ignorant king has been around for

> aeons.

> >

> > I know some swords are already swinging...

> > but there is really nothing to hit...

> > and becase there is nothing to hit...

> > what good is swords and shields...

> > ...iietsa

> >

> can...

> you...

> tell...

> me...

> then...

> what...

> good...

> are...

> these...

> words...

> for...

> then.

>

 

these words are good for nothing...

and so are all words...

see...they are all the same...

dont take some words for more or better...

then you will become what you are not...

a man in a cage imprisoned by concepts...

....iietsa

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Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > one can never lose ones true nature...

> > > > > just as one can never gain it...

> > > > > words changes nothing...

> > > > > it does not matter if they are spoken from the heart of

> wisdom...

> > > > > or they come from the king of ignorance...

> > > > > to stick with some words or ideas...

> > > > > as if they were better or higher...

> > > > > changes nothing...

> > > > > the men that holds some thoughts as higher...

> > > > > is always ready to fight a war...with swords and shields...

> > > > > ...and this is the army of the ignorant king has been

around

> for

> > > aeons.

> > > > >

> > > > > I know some swords are already swinging...

> > > > > but there is really nothing to hit...

> > > > > and becase there is nothing to hit...

> > > > > what good is swords and shields...

> > > > > ...iietsa

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > what swords and shields?

> > > >

> > > > if there is nothing to hit there is nothing to hit with...

> > > >

> > > > nor is there a king of ignorance nor king of wisdom.

> > > >

> > > > only ignorance would 'think' so.

> > > >

> > > > your words here iietsa are a:

> > > >

> > > > " tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying

> > > nothing. "

> > > >

> > > > you're welcome and may accept gladly baba's truthful

critique.

> > > >

> > > > Bringing you Tidings of Great Joy:

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > >

> > > in the beginning there is perfect understanding ...

> > > nothing to hit...nothing to hit with...no ignorance...no

> wisdom...

> > >

> > > ...then from nowhere... " an idiot " ...ends the perfect

> understanding

> > > ...iietsa

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > thank you for that admission and confession.

> >

> > god rest your guilty idiot soul.

> >

> > until s/he does...

> >

> > keep playing with your swords and shields and snakes and ladders.

> >

> > what a sweet child!

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

>

> You make a sweet couple!

>

> :)))) ))))))) ))))))))))

>

 

its because you see objects around you...that you are in duality...

release the fishes and you will understand that there never was a

fisherman in the first plase...

....iietsa

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Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > >

> > > one can never lose ones true nature...

> > > just as one can never gain it...

> > > words changes nothing...

> > > it does not matter if they are spoken from the heart of wisdom...

> > > or they come from the king of ignorance...

> > > to stick with some words or ideas...

> > > as if they were better or higher...

> > > changes nothing...

> > > the men that holds some thoughts as higher...

> > > is always ready to fight a war...with swords and shields...

> > > ...and this is the army of the ignorant king has been around for

> > aeons.

> > >

> > > I know some swords are already swinging...

> > > but there is really nothing to hit...

> > > and becase there is nothing to hit...

> > > what good is swords and shields...

> > > ...iietsa

> > >

> > can...

> > you...

> > tell...

> > me...

> > then...

> > what...

> > good...

> > are...

> > these...

> > words...

> > for...

> > then.

> >

>

> these words are good for nothing...

> and so are all words...

> see...they are all the same...

> dont take some words for more or better...

> then you will become what you are not...

> a man in a cage imprisoned by concepts...

> ...iietsa

 

 

here i can agree with you kiddo..

 

except the 'man' part..

 

that doesn't apply to ~skyzie johan mstr....

 

creep would be more apropos.

 

yeah that's the ticket..

 

he's a creep in a concept in a cage.

 

ROFLMAO!

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > one can never lose ones true nature...

> > > > just as one can never gain it...

> > >

> > >

> > > Aha !

> > >

> > > If you know so much about true nature then please tell me what

is

> > the

> > > false nature ?

> > >

> > > Werner

> > >

> > >

> > > > words changes nothing...

> > > > it does not matter if they are spoken from the heart of

wisdom...

> > > > or they come from the king of ignorance...

> > > > to stick with some words or ideas...

> > > > as if they were better or higher...

> > > > changes nothing...

> > > > the men that holds some thoughts as higher...

> > > > is always ready to fight a war...with swords and shields...

> > > > ...and this is the army of the ignorant king has been around

for

> > aeons.

> > > >

> > > > I know some swords are already swinging...

> > > > but there is really nothing to hit...

> > > > and becase there is nothing to hit...

> > > > what good is swords and shields...

> > > > ...iietsa

> > > >

> > >

> >

> > there is neither " true " nor " false " ...

> > but one could say that concepts, is the false...

> > even the word " true " is a concept...

> > when one sees this it somehow loses its magic power and just

dies...

> > and no more spells are there to fix...

> > ...iietsa

>

>

> who the fuck is the 'one' who sees this?

>

> there is no such one.

>

> what's the matter with you kid?

>

> 'magic power'.......oh sweet jesus!

>

> you watch too many fantasies..

>

> you read too many trashy enlightenment comic books...

>

> you think your shit doesn't stink.

>

> here's a flash for you child..

>

> it does stink and you are full of it too.

>

> pee you!

>

> .b b.b.

>

 

if you understand you will see that it was written...

that there is no such thing as magic power...

(take your time)

....iietsa

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Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@>

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > one can never lose ones true nature...

> > > > > > just as one can never gain it...

> > > > > > words changes nothing...

> > > > > > it does not matter if they are spoken from the heart of

> > wisdom...

> > > > > > or they come from the king of ignorance...

> > > > > > to stick with some words or ideas...

> > > > > > as if they were better or higher...

> > > > > > changes nothing...

> > > > > > the men that holds some thoughts as higher...

> > > > > > is always ready to fight a war...with swords and shields...

> > > > > > ...and this is the army of the ignorant king has been

> around

> > for

> > > > aeons.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I know some swords are already swinging...

> > > > > > but there is really nothing to hit...

> > > > > > and becase there is nothing to hit...

> > > > > > what good is swords and shields...

> > > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > what swords and shields?

> > > > >

> > > > > if there is nothing to hit there is nothing to hit with...

> > > > >

> > > > > nor is there a king of ignorance nor king of wisdom.

> > > > >

> > > > > only ignorance would 'think' so.

> > > > >

> > > > > your words here iietsa are a:

> > > > >

> > > > > " tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying

> > > > nothing. "

> > > > >

> > > > > you're welcome and may accept gladly baba's truthful

> critique.

> > > > >

> > > > > Bringing you Tidings of Great Joy:

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > in the beginning there is perfect understanding ...

> > > > nothing to hit...nothing to hit with...no ignorance...no

> > wisdom...

> > > >

> > > > ...then from nowhere... " an idiot " ...ends the perfect

> > understanding

> > > > ...iietsa

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > thank you for that admission and confession.

> > >

> > > god rest your guilty idiot soul.

> > >

> > > until s/he does...

> > >

> > > keep playing with your swords and shields and snakes and ladders.

> > >

> > > what a sweet child!

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> >

> > You make a sweet couple!

> >

> > :)))) ))))))) ))))))))))

> >

>

> its because you see objects around you...that you are in duality...

> release the fishes and you will understand that there never was a

> fisherman in the first plase...

> ...iietsa

 

 

how can a nonexistent fisherman release nonexistent fishes?

 

are you ok today iietsa or are you just getting up?

 

you sound sick.

 

but i shouldn't ask.

 

you don't know or understand anything.

 

you're welcome for my understanding your not understanding.

 

it's just My Knowing and Understanding and Enlightenment..

 

please don't make an idol out of my wisdom and presence.

 

i help children freely and thoughtfully like this.

 

it's my True Nature.

 

but then...you wouldn't understand.

 

that too is ok shorty.

 

:-)

 

..b b.b.

 

" The Great "

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa "

<iietsa@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa "

> > <iietsa@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > one can never lose ones true nature...

> > > > > > > > > > just as one can never gain it...

> > > > > > > > > > words changes nothing...

> > > > > > > > > > it does not matter if they are spoken from the

heart

> > of

> > > > > > wisdom...

> > > > > > > > > > or they come from the king of ignorance...

> > > > > > > > > > to stick with some words or ideas...

> > > > > > > > > > as if they were better or higher...

> > > > > > > > > > changes nothing...

> > > > > > > > > > the men that holds some thoughts as higher...

> > > > > > > > > > is always ready to fight a war...with swords and

> > > > shields...

> > > > > > > > > > ...and this is the army of the ignorant king has

> > been

> > > > around

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > aeons.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I know some swords are already swinging...

> > > > > > > > > > but there is really nothing to hit...

> > > > > > > > > > and becase there is nothing to hit...

> > > > > > > > > > what good is swords and shields...

> > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > what swords and shields?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > if there is nothing to hit there is nothing to hit

> > with...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > nor is there a king of ignorance nor king of

wisdom.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > only ignorance would 'think' so.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > your words here iietsa are a:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > " tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,

> > signifying

> > > > > > > > nothing. "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > you're welcome and may accept gladly baba's

truthful

> > > > critique.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Bringing you Tidings of Great Joy:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > in the beginning there is perfect understanding ...

> > > > > > > > nothing to hit...nothing to hit with...no

ignorance...no

> > > > > > wisdom...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ...then from nowhere... " an idiot " ...ends the perfect

> > > > > > understanding

> > > > > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > thank you for that admission and confession.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > god rest your guilty idiot soul.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > until s/he does...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > keep playing with your swords and shields and snakes

and

> > > > ladders.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > what a sweet child!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the perfect understanding is that there is nothing...

> > > > > > but somehow...from nowhere... " a guilty idiot soul " ...

> > > > > > ends this understanding...

> > > > > > ...there is not an idiot and no confession...

> > > > > > there is nothing...

> > > > > > just stop there...

> > > > > > and dont let any thoughtdelude you even with a sweet

child

> > > > idea...

> > > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > why speak if there is nothing?

> > > > >

> > > > > there's nothing to speak about in that case.

> > > > >

> > > > > you make no sense child.

> > > > >

> > > > > the only one deluded here is you.

> > > > >

> > > > > it's not that you see things..

> > > > >

> > > > > you see nothing.

> > > > >

> > > > > your understanding is about as perfect as a defective

blemish.

> > > > >

> > > > > whenever you do grow up you will stop this silliness.

> > > > >

> > > > > but that is going to require years of discovering how

wrong

> > you

> > > > are...

> > > > >

> > > > > about everything that you call nothing and can't stop

talking

> > > > about.

> > > > >

> > > > > sorry kid but you're a fool.

> > > > >

> > > > > are you a chubby hare krishna freak?

> > > > >

> > > > > LOL!

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > from nowhere...

> > > > a child with a defective blemish appears...

> > > > that you thinks is going to grow up...

> > > > then you say that, that kid is a fool...

> > > > ...in truth there is nothing...really...

> > > > what appears to you is only mind-ghosts...

> > > > take away the mind-gosts...and there is nothing...

> > > > nothing more to be pissed about...

> > > > and noone to be pissed...

> > > > ...iietsa

> > >

> > >

> > > who's pissed?

> > >

> > > you've got to be kidding kid.

> > >

> > > you're too insignificant to have any feelings about whatsoever.

> > >

> > > it seems that the mind-ghost iietsa can't stop shitting his

pants.

> > >

> > > you go on and on and on and on and on..

> > >

> > > about how there is nothing to go on about.

> > >

> > > i'm beginning to get the idea that you're as nutzoid as wernie

poo.

> > >

> > > LOL!

> > >

> > > you're a barrel of laughs you foolish kid.

> > >

> > > :-)

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> >

> > no need for new formulations...

> > " nothing more to be pissed about...

> > and noone to be pissed... "

> > no need for questions like " who's pissed? "

> > ...iietsa

>

>

> then why are you trying so hard to formulate a statement?

> its really no big deal

> you really are illogical..

> I can see why that appears so

> even the non-you who keeps yapping bullshit.

> it is not even a non-you

> don't get pissed...but don't piss nonsense.

> I dont

> you ain't gonna do it kiddo..

>

> you ain't never going to have anyone believe your crap.

> thats whats pointing at...together with all make-belief

> you're just a little boy in the north country...

> I am not

> trying hard to impress.

> I am not

> no one is impressed.

> thats right...even if it was just a lucky whirl

> but a hell of a lot of us are amused with you.

> amusements is sweets for the goasts

> LOL!

>

> .b b.b.

>

....iietsa

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Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > one can never lose ones true nature...

> > > > > just as one can never gain it...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Aha !

> > > >

> > > > If you know so much about true nature then please tell me what

> is

> > > the

> > > > false nature ?

> > > >

> > > > Werner

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > words changes nothing...

> > > > > it does not matter if they are spoken from the heart of

> wisdom...

> > > > > or they come from the king of ignorance...

> > > > > to stick with some words or ideas...

> > > > > as if they were better or higher...

> > > > > changes nothing...

> > > > > the men that holds some thoughts as higher...

> > > > > is always ready to fight a war...with swords and shields...

> > > > > ...and this is the army of the ignorant king has been around

> for

> > > aeons.

> > > > >

> > > > > I know some swords are already swinging...

> > > > > but there is really nothing to hit...

> > > > > and becase there is nothing to hit...

> > > > > what good is swords and shields...

> > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > there is neither " true " nor " false " ...

> > > but one could say that concepts, is the false...

> > > even the word " true " is a concept...

> > > when one sees this it somehow loses its magic power and just

> dies...

> > > and no more spells are there to fix...

> > > ...iietsa

> >

> >

> > who the fuck is the 'one' who sees this?

> >

> > there is no such one.

> >

> > what's the matter with you kid?

> >

> > 'magic power'.......oh sweet jesus!

> >

> > you watch too many fantasies..

> >

> > you read too many trashy enlightenment comic books...

> >

> > you think your shit doesn't stink.

> >

> > here's a flash for you child..

> >

> > it does stink and you are full of it too.

> >

> > pee you!

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

>

> if you understand you will see that it was written...

> that there is no such thing as magic power...

> (take your time)

> ...iietsa

 

 

i understand child.

 

for a 'no such thing', you sure talk a lot...

 

and write a lot of bullshit too.

 

who's the 'you' that 'understands'?

 

by your logic there is no such animal, mineral, vegetable..

 

so just what the fuck are you trying to say?

 

you only fool yourself foolish child.

 

you haven't the first idea of what it is you're trying to say.

 

ask mo0m for some warm milk.

 

that may help.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > one can never lose ones true nature...

> > > > just as one can never gain it...

> > > > words changes nothing...

> > > > it does not matter if they are spoken from the heart of

wisdom...

> > > > or they come from the king of ignorance...

> > > > to stick with some words or ideas...

> > > > as if they were better or higher...

> > > > changes nothing...

> > > > the men that holds some thoughts as higher...

> > > > is always ready to fight a war...with swords and shields...

> > > > ...and this is the army of the ignorant king has been around

for

> > > aeons.

> > > >

> > > > I know some swords are already swinging...

> > > > but there is really nothing to hit...

> > > > and becase there is nothing to hit...

> > > > what good is swords and shields...

> > > > ...iietsa

> > > >

> > > can...

> > > you...

> > > tell...

> > > me...

> > > then...

> > > what...

> > > good...

> > > are...

> > > these...

> > > words...

> > > for...

> > > then.

> > >

> >

> > these words are good for nothing...

> > and so are all words...

> > see...they are all the same...

> > dont take some words for more or better...

> > then you will become what you are not...

> > a man in a cage imprisoned by concepts...

> > ...iietsa

>

>

> here i can agree with you kiddo..

>

> except the 'man' part..

>

> that doesn't apply to ~skyzie johan mstr....

>

> creep would be more apropos.

>

> yeah that's the ticket..

>

> he's a creep in a concept in a cage.

>

> ROFLMAO!

>

> .b b.b.

>

 

you know...

a wise man doesnt become a mule just because an idiot thinks so...

even how real it appears to the idiot...

the above is not meant to create reactions...

it is just sweets

....iietsa

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