Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2007 > > I want you to see through the conceptual overlay........to become > the > > vastness once again....... an empty pursuit. Bill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2007 Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you really want ? > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how presumptuous! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > what do you mean....presumptuous ? > > > > > > > > > > the presumption that there is such a thing... > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > Conceptual thought is presumption. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > you miss the point. > > > Bill > Point...............point.............point point point point. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2007 Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote: > > > > I want you to see through the conceptual overlay........to become > > the > > > vastness once again....... > > an empty pursuit. > > > Bill > That's the best kind. :-) toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you really want ? > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nobody existing for real....who want something > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > waves on the ocean... > > > > > > > > ocean of waves... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all over > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here & now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont mean to ask the question on a personal level... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dont make the you into an object...and dont make the dearest > > > > > into an > > > > > > > object...only gently lend a name to (it) just for the > > > moment... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are god...and I dont mean the word " god " ...you are above > > > > > > > words...yours is the power...use the words as you want... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you want ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A pony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > lets play that game....why do you want a pony ? > > > > > what do you really want ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The identified entity is solidified desire. > > > > > > > > I want it all. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > yes...but what do you want the most...what do you want more than > > > all... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want you to see that you are a tar baby......stuck in a conceptual > > tar pit. > > > > I want you to see that you are a tar baby......attempting to rearrange > > the the feathers that are covering your surface. > > > > I want you to see that you are a tar baby.....floundering in your > > personal accumulation of concepts about tar. > > > > I want you to see the futility of asking questions about something > > that exists only as a clot of memories. > > > > I want you to soar above the tar pit.....and taste the cool clean air > > of your Homeland. > > > > > > I want you to see through the conceptual overlay........to become the > > vastness once again....... > > > > > > I want that................ > > > > > > > > and a pony. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > i had a pony once. > > made beautiful meatloaf too. > > of course 'we' waited till he became a horse... > > more meat and all. > > .b b.b. > > p.s. > > on the Q.T. : > > 'i' still 'bet' on the ponies. > > hey! that's what 'i' want! > > to win! > win win win lose lose lose those are the hands of a twohead Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2007 Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > what do you really want ? > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > how presumptuous! > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > what do you mean....presumptuous ? > > > > the presumption that there is such a thing... > > > Bill > that there is no real self beyond the mind.... isnt that as well like....how presumptuous! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > <iietsa@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you really want ? > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nobody existing for real....who want something > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > waves on the ocean... > > > > > > > > > ocean of waves... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all over > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here & now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont mean to ask the question on a personal level... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dont make the you into an object...and dont make the > > dearest > > > > > > into an > > > > > > > > object...only gently lend a name to (it) just for the > > > > moment... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are god...and I dont mean the word " god " ...you are > > above > > > > > > > > words...yours is the power...use the words as you want... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you want ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A pony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > lets play that game....why do you want a pony ? > > > > > > what do you really want ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The identified entity is solidified desire. > > > > > > > > > > I want it all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > yes...but what do you want the most...what do you want more than > > > > all... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want you to see that you are a tar baby......stuck in a > > conceptual > > > tar pit. > > > > > > I want you to see that you are a tar baby......attempting to > > rearrange > > > the the feathers that are covering your surface. > > > > > > I want you to see that you are a tar baby.....floundering in your > > > personal accumulation of concepts about tar. > > > > > > I want you to see the futility of asking questions about something > > > that exists only as a clot of memories. > > > > > > I want you to soar above the tar pit.....and taste the cool clean > > air > > > of your Homeland. > > > > > > > > > I want you to see through the conceptual overlay........to become > > the > > > vastness once again....... > > > > > > > > > I want that................ > > > > > > > > > > > > and a pony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > excellent.... > > I am soaring above the tar pit....in the taste of my homeland... > > some years ago I took myself for that tar baby...but thats only a > > memory today...I am no longer stuck in the conceptual tar pit. > > > > why do you think that I am trying to rearange the feathers that are > > covering your face....sorry my sureface.... > > > > > > Because one who knows never asks questions about reality. > > > > toombaru > beware my friend....that could be a misleading idea... if it gets a hold .... there is no right or wrong in freedom... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2007 Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote: > > > > I want you to see through the conceptual overlay........to become > > the > > > vastness once again....... > > an empty pursuit. > > > Bill > there is no need to become..... I am is allready ..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2007 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you really want ? > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nobody existing for real....who want > something > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > waves on the ocean... > > > > > > > > > > ocean of waves... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all over > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here & now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont mean to ask the question on a personal > level... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dont make the you into an object...and dont make the > > > dearest > > > > > > > into an > > > > > > > > > object...only gently lend a name to (it) just for > the > > > > > moment... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are god...and I dont mean the word " god " ...you > are > > > above > > > > > > > > > words...yours is the power...use the words as you > want... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you want ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A pony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lets play that game....why do you want a pony ? > > > > > > > what do you really want ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The identified entity is solidified desire. > > > > > > > > > > > > I want it all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > yes...but what do you want the most...what do you want more > than > > > > > all... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want you to see that you are a tar baby......stuck in a > > > conceptual > > > > tar pit. > > > > > > > > I want you to see that you are a tar baby......attempting to > > > rearrange > > > > the the feathers that are covering your surface. > > > > > > > > I want you to see that you are a tar baby.....floundering in > your > > > > personal accumulation of concepts about tar. > > > > > > > > I want you to see the futility of asking questions about > something > > > > that exists only as a clot of memories. > > > > > > > > I want you to soar above the tar pit.....and taste the cool > clean > > > air > > > > of your Homeland. > > > > > > > > > > > > I want you to see through the conceptual overlay........to > become > > > the > > > > vastness once again....... > > > > > > > > > > > > I want that................ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and a pony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > excellent.... > > > I am soaring above the tar pit....in the taste of my homeland... > > > some years ago I took myself for that tar baby...but thats only > a > > > memory today...I am no longer stuck in the conceptual tar pit. > > > > > > why do you think that I am trying to rearange the feathers that > are > > > covering your face....sorry my sureface.... > > > > > > > > > > > Because one who knows never asks questions about reality. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > beware my friend....that could be a misleading idea... > if it gets a hold .... > there is no right or wrong in freedom... > Have you ever heard of Ramana or Nisargadatta asking anyone about the nature of reality? toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2007 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > > > I want you to see through the conceptual overlay........to become > > > the > > > > vastness once again....... > > > > an empty pursuit. > > > > > > Bill > > > there is no need to become..... > I am is allready > .... > I am is the dream. Nisargadatta spoke of beyond the I am.....of which nothing can be spoken. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I want you to see through the conceptual overlay........to become > > > > the > > > > > vastness once again....... > > > > > > an empty pursuit. > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > there is no need to become..... > > I am is allready > > .... > > > > > I am is the dream. > > Nisargadatta spoke of beyond the I am.....of which nothing can be spoken. > > > > toombaru > yes.......but beyond the dream or the words " I " and " am " ...(is the real I am)....that can not be spoken....that is not a dream... he also said " go deep into the I am and you will find " his words was a map...use it...til you have found...then the map is not needed anymore...then you know the real without knowing... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > <iietsa@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you really want ? > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nobody existing for real....who want > > something > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > waves on the ocean... > > > > > > > > > > > ocean of waves... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all over > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here & now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont mean to ask the question on a personal > > level... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dont make the you into an object...and dont make the > > > > dearest > > > > > > > > into an > > > > > > > > > > object...only gently lend a name to (it) just for > > the > > > > > > moment... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are god...and I dont mean the word " god " ...you > > are > > > > above > > > > > > > > > > words...yours is the power...use the words as you > > want... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you want ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A pony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lets play that game....why do you want a pony ? > > > > > > > > what do you really want ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The identified entity is solidified desire. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want it all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes...but what do you want the most...what do you want more > > than > > > > > > all... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want you to see that you are a tar baby......stuck in a > > > > conceptual > > > > > tar pit. > > > > > > > > > > I want you to see that you are a tar baby......attempting to > > > > rearrange > > > > > the the feathers that are covering your surface. > > > > > > > > > > I want you to see that you are a tar baby.....floundering in > > your > > > > > personal accumulation of concepts about tar. > > > > > > > > > > I want you to see the futility of asking questions about > > something > > > > > that exists only as a clot of memories. > > > > > > > > > > I want you to soar above the tar pit.....and taste the cool > > clean > > > > air > > > > > of your Homeland. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want you to see through the conceptual overlay........to > > become > > > > the > > > > > vastness once again....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want that................ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and a pony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > excellent.... > > > > I am soaring above the tar pit....in the taste of my homeland... > > > > some years ago I took myself for that tar baby...but thats only > > a > > > > memory today...I am no longer stuck in the conceptual tar pit. > > > > > > > > why do you think that I am trying to rearange the feathers that > > are > > > > covering your face....sorry my sureface.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because one who knows never asks questions about reality. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > beware my friend....that could be a misleading idea... > > if it gets a hold .... > > there is no right or wrong in freedom... > > > > > Have you ever heard of Ramana or Nisargadatta asking anyone about the > nature of reality? > > > toombaru > all the time....in different ways...yes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2007 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > <iietsa@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you really want ? > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nobody existing for real....who want > something > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > waves on the ocean... > > > > > > > > > ocean of waves... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all over > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here & now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont mean to ask the question on a personal level... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dont make the you into an object...and dont make the > dearest > > > > > > into an > > > > > > > > object...only gently lend a name to (it) just for the > > > > moment... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are god...and I dont mean the word " god " ...you are > above > > > > > > > > words...yours is the power...use the words as you > want... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you want ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A pony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > lets play that game....why do you want a pony ? > > > > > > what do you really want ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The identified entity is solidified desire. > > > > > > > > > > I want it all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > yes...but what do you want the most...what do you want more > than > > > > all... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want you to see that you are a tar baby......stuck in a > conceptual > > > tar pit. > > > > > > I want you to see that you are a tar baby......attempting to > rearrange > > > the the feathers that are covering your surface. > > > > > > I want you to see that you are a tar baby.....floundering in your > > > personal accumulation of concepts about tar. > > > > > > I want you to see the futility of asking questions about > something > > > that exists only as a clot of memories. > > > > > > I want you to soar above the tar pit.....and taste the cool > clean air > > > of your Homeland. > > > > > > > > > I want you to see through the conceptual overlay........to > become the > > > vastness once again....... > > > > > > > > > I want that................ > > > > > > > > > > > > and a pony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > i had a pony once. > > > > made beautiful meatloaf too. > > > > of course 'we' waited till he became a horse... > > > > more meat and all. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > p.s. > > > > on the Q.T. : > > > > 'i' still 'bet' on the ponies. > > > > hey! that's what 'i' want! > > > > to win! > > > win win win > lose lose lose > those are the hands of a twohead all six hands of the twohead? that's more the thinking of a towhead. but blondes are ok too. are you naturally so? ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > <iietsa@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you really want ? > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nobody existing for real....who want > > something > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > waves on the ocean... > > > > > > > > > > ocean of waves... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all over > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here & now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont mean to ask the question on a personal level... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dont make the you into an object...and dont make the > > dearest > > > > > > > into an > > > > > > > > > object...only gently lend a name to (it) just for the > > > > > moment... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are god...and I dont mean the word " god " ...you are > > above > > > > > > > > > words...yours is the power...use the words as you > > want... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you want ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A pony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lets play that game....why do you want a pony ? > > > > > > > what do you really want ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The identified entity is solidified desire. > > > > > > > > > > > > I want it all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > yes...but what do you want the most...what do you want more > > than > > > > > all... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want you to see that you are a tar baby......stuck in a > > conceptual > > > > tar pit. > > > > > > > > I want you to see that you are a tar baby......attempting to > > rearrange > > > > the the feathers that are covering your surface. > > > > > > > > I want you to see that you are a tar baby.....floundering in your > > > > personal accumulation of concepts about tar. > > > > > > > > I want you to see the futility of asking questions about > > something > > > > that exists only as a clot of memories. > > > > > > > > I want you to soar above the tar pit.....and taste the cool > > clean air > > > > of your Homeland. > > > > > > > > > > > > I want you to see through the conceptual overlay........to > > become the > > > > vastness once again....... > > > > > > > > > > > > I want that................ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and a pony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > i had a pony once. > > > > > > made beautiful meatloaf too. > > > > > > of course 'we' waited till he became a horse... > > > > > > more meat and all. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > on the Q.T. : > > > > > > 'i' still 'bet' on the ponies. > > > > > > hey! that's what 'i' want! > > > > > > to win! > > > > > win win win > > lose lose lose > > those are the hands of a twohead > > > > > all six hands of the twohead? > > that's more the thinking of a towhead. > > but blondes are ok too. > > are you naturally so? > > .b b.b. > I am the natural...yes and the hair...I dont know exactly... and you know what...it doesnt really matter... just dont get stuck there...on the hair... I mean...one day its there ... the next its not... stay with what is there allways...and flow with that... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2007 > > I am the natural...yes > and the hair...I dont know exactly... > and you know what...it doesnt really matter... > just dont get stuck there...on the hair... > I mean...one day its there ... the next its not... > stay with what is there allways...and flow with that... > I just remembered what I want. I want more hair.....and I want it to be long and black like it used to be.......and wavy.... toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > I am the natural...yes > > and the hair...I dont know exactly... > > and you know what...it doesnt really matter... > > just dont get stuck there...on the hair... > > I mean...one day its there ... the next its not... > > stay with what is there allways...and flow with that... > > > > > > I just remembered what I want. > > I want more hair.....and I want it to be long and black like it used > to be.......and wavy.... > > toombaru > Since I have no clue what you look like toomie, you're perfect the way you are, especially since you're a sock puppet:-) (With or without long black hair) I love you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2007 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you really want ? > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nobody existing for real....who want > > > something > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > waves on the ocean... > > > > > > > > > > > ocean of waves... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all over > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here & now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont mean to ask the question on a personal > level... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dont make the you into an object...and dont make > the > > > dearest > > > > > > > > into an > > > > > > > > > > object...only gently lend a name to (it) just for > the > > > > > > moment... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are god...and I dont mean the word " god " ...you > are > > > above > > > > > > > > > > words...yours is the power...use the words as you > > > want... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you want ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A pony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lets play that game....why do you want a pony ? > > > > > > > > what do you really want ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The identified entity is solidified desire. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want it all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes...but what do you want the most...what do you want > more > > > than > > > > > > all... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want you to see that you are a tar baby......stuck in a > > > conceptual > > > > > tar pit. > > > > > > > > > > I want you to see that you are a tar baby......attempting to > > > rearrange > > > > > the the feathers that are covering your surface. > > > > > > > > > > I want you to see that you are a tar baby.....floundering in > your > > > > > personal accumulation of concepts about tar. > > > > > > > > > > I want you to see the futility of asking questions about > > > something > > > > > that exists only as a clot of memories. > > > > > > > > > > I want you to soar above the tar pit.....and taste the cool > > > clean air > > > > > of your Homeland. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want you to see through the conceptual overlay........to > > > become the > > > > > vastness once again....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want that................ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and a pony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > i had a pony once. > > > > > > > > made beautiful meatloaf too. > > > > > > > > of course 'we' waited till he became a horse... > > > > > > > > more meat and all. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > > > on the Q.T. : > > > > > > > > 'i' still 'bet' on the ponies. > > > > > > > > hey! that's what 'i' want! > > > > > > > > to win! > > > > > > > win win win > > > lose lose lose > > > those are the hands of a twohead > > > > > > > > > > all six hands of the twohead? > > > > that's more the thinking of a towhead. > > > > but blondes are ok too. > > > > are you naturally so? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > I am the natural...yes > and the hair...I dont know exactly... > and you know what...it doesnt really matter... > just dont get stuck there...on the hair... > I mean...one day its there ... the next its not... > stay with what is there allways...and flow with that... baba is not other than the flowing. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > I am the natural...yes > > and the hair...I dont know exactly... > > and you know what...it doesnt really matter... > > just dont get stuck there...on the hair... > > I mean...one day its there ... the next its not... > > stay with what is there allways...and flow with that... > > > > > > I just remembered what I want. > > I want more hair.....and I want it to be long and black like it used > to be.......and wavy.... > > toombaru LOL! i'm losing my hair i'm losing my teeth i'm losing my once held firmly belief in the new world order. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2007 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I am the natural...yes > > > and the hair...I dont know exactly... > > > and you know what...it doesnt really matter... > > > just dont get stuck there...on the hair... > > > I mean...one day its there ... the next its not... > > > stay with what is there allways...and flow with that... > > > > > > > > > > > I just remembered what I want. > > > > I want more hair.....and I want it to be long and black like it used > > to be.......and wavy.... > > > > toombaru > > > > > Since I have no clue what you look like toomie, you're perfect the > way you are, especially since you're a sock puppet:-) > > (With or without long black hair) > > I love you. > ..........toombaru......tosses his grey hair......the way he does....looks off to the horizon......and smiles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am the natural...yes > > > > and the hair...I dont know exactly... > > > > and you know what...it doesnt really matter... > > > > just dont get stuck there...on the hair... > > > > I mean...one day its there ... the next its not... > > > > stay with what is there allways...and flow with that... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just remembered what I want. > > > > > > I want more hair.....and I want it to be long and black like it used > > > to be.......and wavy.... > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > Since I have no clue what you look like toomie, you're perfect the > > way you are, especially since you're a sock puppet:-) > > > > (With or without long black hair) > > > > I love you. > > > > > > .........toombaru......tosses his grey hair......the way he > does....looks off to the horizon......and smiles. > .....reminding Anna of the last scene in the flick: The Last Of The Mohicans.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSYBXDUAA7Q the three profiles gazing into the expanse... " once we were here " . I love you All again and again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 6, 2007 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > what do you really want ? > > > ... > > > > > > > > > there is nobody existing for real....who want something > > > > > > waves on the ocean... > > ocean of waves... > > > > > > all over > > > > > > here & now > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > I dont mean to ask the question on a personal level... > > dont make the you into an object...and dont make the dearest into an > object...only gently lend a name to (it) just for the moment... > > you are god...and I dont mean the word " god " ...you are above > words...yours is the power...use the words as you want... > > what do you want ? nothing Marc Ps: how come...to ask/persisit on ...such question? > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 6, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > what do you really want ? > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nobody existing for real....who want something > > > > > > > > > waves on the ocean... > > > ocean of waves... > > > > > > > > > all over > > > > > > > > > here & now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > I dont mean to ask the question on a personal level... > > > > dont make the you into an object...and dont make the dearest into > an > > object...only gently lend a name to (it) just for the moment... > > > > you are god...and I dont mean the word " god " ...you are above > > words...yours is the power...use the words as you want... > > > > what do you want ? > > > > > > nothing > > > Marc > > > Ps: how come...to ask/persisit on ...such question? > > > nothing...excellent how come...I dont know.... when all questions is seen from ones emptyness...all questions are the same...but for some reason it appears that there are to much focusing on words and ideas around here...when there is not everything flows beautyfully.......the attention is only with ones true self... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 6, 2007 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > what do you really want ? > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nobody existing for real....who want something > > > > > > > > > > > > waves on the ocean... > > > > ocean of waves... > > > > > > > > > > > > all over > > > > > > > > > > > > here & now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > I dont mean to ask the question on a personal level... > > > > > > dont make the you into an object...and dont make the dearest > into > > an > > > object...only gently lend a name to (it) just for the moment... > > > > > > you are god...and I dont mean the word " god " ...you are above > > > words...yours is the power...use the words as you want... > > > > > > what do you want ? > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > Ps: how come...to ask/persisit on ...such question? > > > > > > nothing...excellent > how come...I dont know.... > when all questions is seen from ones emptyness...all questions are > the same...but for some reason it appears that there are to much > focusing on words and ideas around here...when there is not > everything flows beautyfully.......the attention is only with ones > true self... yes....many words & ideas around here..... words & ideas which, the writers think, are worth/necessary...to share...... until they will know..... there is nobody to share this words & ideas.... for real except within the working mind.... they are flowing through... without knowing Marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 6, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you really want ? > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nobody existing for real....who want something > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > waves on the ocean... > > > > > ocean of waves... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all over > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here & now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > I dont mean to ask the question on a personal level... > > > > > > > > dont make the you into an object...and dont make the dearest > > into > > > an > > > > object...only gently lend a name to (it) just for the moment... > > > > > > > > you are god...and I dont mean the word " god " ...you are above > > > > words...yours is the power...use the words as you want... > > > > > > > > what do you want ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > Ps: how come...to ask/persisit on ...such question? > > > > > > > > > nothing...excellent > > how come...I dont know.... > > when all questions is seen from ones emptyness...all questions are > > the same...but for some reason it appears that there are to much > > focusing on words and ideas around here...when there is not > > everything flows beautyfully.......the attention is only with ones > > true self... > > > > yes....many words & ideas around here..... > > words & ideas which, the writers think, are worth/necessary...to > share...... > > until they will know..... > > there is nobody to share > > this words & ideas.... > > for real > > > except within the working mind.... > > they are flowing through... > > without knowing > > > Marc > Bullshit;-) It's all as real or unreal is you think you are Marc, have you looked into the mirror lately? Love, Anna Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 6, 2007 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you really want ? > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nobody existing for real....who want something > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > waves on the ocean... > > > > > > ocean of waves... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all over > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here & now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > I dont mean to ask the question on a personal level... > > > > > > > > > > dont make the you into an object...and dont make the dearest > > > into > > > > an > > > > > object...only gently lend a name to (it) just for the moment... > > > > > > > > > > you are god...and I dont mean the word " god " ...you are above > > > > > words...yours is the power...use the words as you want... > > > > > > > > > > what do you want ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: how come...to ask/persisit on ...such question? > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing...excellent > > > how come...I dont know.... > > > when all questions is seen from ones emptyness...all questions are > > > the same...but for some reason it appears that there are to much > > > focusing on words and ideas around here...when there is not > > > everything flows beautyfully.......the attention is only with ones > > > true self... > > > > > > > > yes....many words & ideas around here..... > > > > words & ideas which, the writers think, are worth/necessary...to > > share...... > > > > until they will know..... > > > > there is nobody to share > > > > this words & ideas.... > > > > for real > > > > > > except within the working mind.... > > > > they are flowing through... > > > > without knowing > > > > > > Marc > > > > > Bullshit;-) > > It's all as real or unreal is you think you are Marc, have you > looked into the mirror lately? > > Love, > Anna no problem.... with whatever " you " believe that " you " are.... nobody cares...* for real Marc Ps: except this your little ego mind....thinking > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 6, 2007 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you really want ? > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nobody existing for real....who want something > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > waves on the ocean... > > > > > > ocean of waves... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all over > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here & now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > I dont mean to ask the question on a personal level... > > > > > > > > > > dont make the you into an object...and dont make the dearest > > > into > > > > an > > > > > object...only gently lend a name to (it) just for the moment... > > > > > > > > > > you are god...and I dont mean the word " god " ...you are above > > > > > words...yours is the power...use the words as you want... > > > > > > > > > > what do you want ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: how come...to ask/persisit on ...such question? > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing...excellent > > > how come...I dont know.... > > > when all questions is seen from ones emptyness...all questions are > > > the same...but for some reason it appears that there are to much > > > focusing on words and ideas around here...when there is not > > > everything flows beautyfully.......the attention is only with ones > > > true self... > > > > > > > > yes....many words & ideas around here..... > > > > words & ideas which, the writers think, are worth/necessary...to > > share...... > > > > until they will know..... > > > > there is nobody to share > > > > this words & ideas.... > > > > for real > > > > > > except within the working mind.... > > > > they are flowing through... > > > > without knowing > > > > > > Marc > > > > > Bullshit;-) > > It's all as real or unreal is you think you are Marc, have you > looked into the mirror lately? > > Love, > Anna there is no such 'thing' as 'bullshit'. just food for plants and dung beetles.. and also food for 'thought'. god bless baba's bliss. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
