Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: '> > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my supreme enlightenment is second to none. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whom do you speak? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru?, > > > > > > > > > > > > it bears repeating: > > > > > > > > > > > > let those with ears to hear.....hear! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ........so they may take a step out of prison? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bobby.................you're shining a brick. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > sorry toom...that brick won't become a mirror and your comment above > > > is the proverbial dog that will not hunt. it is self reference and not > > > a pertinent comment to what was stated beforehand. if you have no ears > > > to hear of course all such words are foolishness. this has been the > > > problem among the blind with those that see for time immemorial. sorry > > > about your luck. > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > You believe in luck? > > > > toombaru > > > > i don't believe in anything. > > there is no one to believe anything. > > there is nothing to believe nor believe in. > > the use of the first person personal is a language device only. > > employed only to 'inform' self.. re self.. from self.. as self... > > there is no other. > > there is no more. > > don't believe it. > > it will become a goal. > > 'you' will stay lost. > > i am no more..neither lost nor found... > > and 'i' could care less. > > .b bobji baba > 'I am no more' presupposes a someone at sometime. 'Caring less' presupposes a psychological center who cares. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my supreme enlightenment is second to none. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whom do you speak? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru?, > > > > > > > > > > > > it bears repeating: > > > > > > > > > > > > let those with ears to hear.....hear! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ........so they may take a step out of prison? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bobby.................you're shining a brick. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > sorry toom...that brick won't become a mirror and your comment above > > > is the proverbial dog that will not hunt. it is self reference and not > > > a pertinent comment to what was stated beforehand. if you have no ears > > > to hear of course all such words are foolishness. this has been the > > > problem among the blind with those that see for time immemorial. sorry > > > about your luck. > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > You believe in luck? > > > > toombaru > > > i believe in you. > > your luck is just more stuff and karma. > > i judge not. > > and am not judged. > > do you judge 'believing and belief'? > > how interesting! > > > > .b b.b. > " I judge not " is a judgment. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my supreme enlightenment is second to none. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whom do you speak? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru?, > > > > > > > > > > it bears repeating: > > > > > > > > > > let those with ears to hear.....hear! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ........so they may take a step out of prison? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > no need for any step whatsoever. i don't understand how you even > > think so. > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > Your statement about having ears to hear implies someone to do > > something.....even it that something is nothing. > > > > > > toombaru > > > if you only knew toombaru. > > the capacity of 'nothing' is beyond comprehension. > > all things are possible with 'nothing'. > > nothing is impossible with nothing. > > we speak from levels vast distances apart in mind and thought. > > but i am with THAT which is... and is NOTHING and all shall be well. > > even for those outside the gates...all shall be well. > > we rejoice in this knowledge. > > and we are not two. > > but one of 'us' understands and 'you don't. > > ;-) > > .b b.b. > bobby: " the capacity of 'nothing' is beyond comprehension. " There is no such thing as nothing. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > '> > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my supreme enlightenment is second to none. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whom do you speak? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru?, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it bears repeating: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let those with ears to hear.....hear! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ........so they may take a step out of prison? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bobby.................you're shining a brick. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sorry toom...that brick won't become a mirror and your comment above > > > > is the proverbial dog that will not hunt. it is self reference > and not > > > > a pertinent comment to what was stated beforehand. if you have > no ears > > > > to hear of course all such words are foolishness. this has been the > > > > problem among the blind with those that see for time immemorial. > sorry > > > > about your luck. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > You believe in luck? > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > i don't believe in anything. > > > > there is no one to believe anything. > > > > there is nothing to believe nor believe in. > > > > the use of the first person personal is a language device only. > > > > employed only to 'inform' self.. re self.. from self.. as self... > > > > there is no other. > > > > there is no more. > > > > don't believe it. > > > > it will become a goal. > > > > 'you' will stay lost. > > > > i am no more..neither lost nor found... > > > > and 'i' could care less. > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > 'I am no more' presupposes a someone at sometime. no more and never was...just like the folks in your dreams last nite. > 'Caring less' presupposes a psychological center who cares. > > > > toombaru you suppose too much about presuppositions. totally centerless noncaring. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my supreme enlightenment is second to none. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whom do you speak? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru?, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it bears repeating: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let those with ears to hear.....hear! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ........so they may take a step out of prison? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bobby.................you're shining a brick. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sorry toom...that brick won't become a mirror and your comment above > > > > is the proverbial dog that will not hunt. it is self reference > and not > > > > a pertinent comment to what was stated beforehand. if you have > no ears > > > > to hear of course all such words are foolishness. this has been the > > > > problem among the blind with those that see for time immemorial. > sorry > > > > about your luck. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > You believe in luck? > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > i believe in you. > > > > your luck is just more stuff and karma. > > > > i judge not. > > > > and am not judged. > > > > do you judge 'believing and belief'? > > > > how interesting! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > " I judge not " is a judgment. > > > toombaru that's just your judgment on judging not. and it's wrong. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my supreme enlightenment is second to none. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whom do you speak? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru?, > > > > > > > > > > > > it bears repeating: > > > > > > > > > > > > let those with ears to hear.....hear! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ........so they may take a step out of prison? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no need for any step whatsoever. i don't understand how you even > > > think so. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your statement about having ears to hear implies someone to do > > > something.....even it that something is nothing. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > if you only knew toombaru. > > > > the capacity of 'nothing' is beyond comprehension. > > > > all things are possible with 'nothing'. > > > > nothing is impossible with nothing. > > > > we speak from levels vast distances apart in mind and thought. > > > > but i am with THAT which is... and is NOTHING and all shall be well. > > > > even for those outside the gates...all shall be well. > > > > we rejoice in this knowledge. > > > > and we are not two. > > > > but one of 'us' understands and 'you don't. > > > > ;-) > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > bobby: " the capacity of 'nothing' is beyond comprehension. " > > > There is no such thing as nothing. > > > toombaru that's what makes it nothing.... and it is so. it's just not a thing. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > '> > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my supreme enlightenment is second to none. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whom do you speak? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru?, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it bears repeating: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let those with ears to hear.....hear! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ........so they may take a step out of prison? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bobby.................you're shining a brick. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sorry toom...that brick won't become a mirror and your comment > above > > > > > is the proverbial dog that will not hunt. it is self reference > > and not > > > > > a pertinent comment to what was stated beforehand. if you have > > no ears > > > > > to hear of course all such words are foolishness. this has > been the > > > > > problem among the blind with those that see for time immemorial. > > sorry > > > > > about your luck. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You believe in luck? > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > i don't believe in anything. > > > > > > there is no one to believe anything. > > > > > > there is nothing to believe nor believe in. > > > > > > the use of the first person personal is a language device only. > > > > > > employed only to 'inform' self.. re self.. from self.. as self... > > > > > > there is no other. > > > > > > there is no more. > > > > > > don't believe it. > > > > > > it will become a goal. > > > > > > 'you' will stay lost. > > > > > > i am no more..neither lost nor found... > > > > > > and 'i' could care less. > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > 'I am no more' presupposes a someone at sometime. > > > no more and never was...just like the folks in your dreams last nite. > > > > > 'Caring less' presupposes a psychological center who cares. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > you suppose too much about presuppositions. > > totally centerless noncaring. > > > .b b.b. > Not caring has to be about something. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > '> > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my supreme enlightenment is second to none. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whom do you speak? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru?, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it bears repeating: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let those with ears to hear.....hear! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ........so they may take a step out of prison? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bobby.................you're shining a brick. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sorry toom...that brick won't become a mirror and your comment > > above > > > > > > is the proverbial dog that will not hunt. it is self reference > > > and not > > > > > > a pertinent comment to what was stated beforehand. if you have > > > no ears > > > > > > to hear of course all such words are foolishness. this has > > been the > > > > > > problem among the blind with those that see for time immemorial. > > > sorry > > > > > > about your luck. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You believe in luck? > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i don't believe in anything. > > > > > > > > there is no one to believe anything. > > > > > > > > there is nothing to believe nor believe in. > > > > > > > > the use of the first person personal is a language device only. > > > > > > > > employed only to 'inform' self.. re self.. from self.. as self... > > > > > > > > there is no other. > > > > > > > > there is no more. > > > > > > > > don't believe it. > > > > > > > > it will become a goal. > > > > > > > > 'you' will stay lost. > > > > > > > > i am no more..neither lost nor found... > > > > > > > > and 'i' could care less. > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > > 'I am no more' presupposes a someone at sometime. > > > > > > no more and never was...just like the folks in your dreams last nite. > > > > > > > > > 'Caring less' presupposes a psychological center who cares. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > you suppose too much about presuppositions. > > > > totally centerless noncaring. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Not caring has to be about something. > > > toombaru let us say than neither caring nor non-caring. center-less non-caring is the High Indifference. there is simply no one to care, nothing to care about and nothing in truth. again your logic used as necessity here leads you astray. this is not about logic, is not bound by logic, and actually laughs at logical necessity as a silly self constraining shackle. not everything is about 'something' no matter how hard the monkey mind feels compelled to say that it is a law of logical necessity. the monkey mind also thinks bananas are the only game in town for tasty victuals. not a lot of variety or imagination. a reactive system responding in inevitable ways with that which it perceives as other in very predictable ways, (like saying that 'not caring' has to be about 'something'). wrong! ..b b.b. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 > > > > Not caring has to be about something. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > let us say than neither caring nor non-caring. center-less non-caring > is the High Indifference. there is simply no one to care, nothing to > care about and nothing in truth. again your logic used as necessity > here leads you astray. this is not about logic, is not bound by logic, Thought...not bound by logic....is useless. And thought is the only tool available. > and actually laughs at logical necessity as a silly self constraining > shackle. not everything is about 'something' no matter how hard the > monkey mind feels compelled to say that it is a law of logical > necessity. the monkey mind also thinks bananas are the only game in > town for tasty victuals. not a lot of variety or imagination. a > reactive system responding in inevitable ways with that which it > perceives as other in very predictable ways, (like saying that 'not > caring' has to be about 'something'). wrong! 'Not caring' need a home.....a reference point. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > > > Not caring has to be about something. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > let us say than neither caring nor non-caring. center-less non-caring > > is the High Indifference. there is simply no one to care, nothing to > > care about and nothing in truth. again your logic used as necessity > > here leads you astray. this is not about logic, is not bound by logic, > > > > Thought...not bound by logic....is useless. > > And thought is the only tool available. thought IS the problem. the creator of logic, and the bound thereby... this lack of vision/truth/noself/understanding et al. leads you to the ridiculous assumption and statement that 'thought' is the only available tool. 'thought' is the lowest arena of being. to the 'All Containing', thought is insignificant and delusional from inception. usefulness can ONLY be found in the useless. (unless 'you' are a 'somebody' who 'needs 'somthing useful') > > and actually laughs at logical necessity as a silly self constraining > > shackle. not everything is about 'something' no matter how hard the > > monkey mind feels compelled to say that it is a law of logical > > necessity. the monkey mind also thinks bananas are the only game in > > town for tasty victuals. not a lot of variety or imagination. a > > reactive system responding in inevitable ways with that which it > > perceives as other in very predictable ways, (like saying that 'not > > caring' has to be about 'something'). wrong! 'Not caring' need a home.....a reference point. > > > > > > toombaru only in a relational world that is illusory, is a reference point a requisite. a reference point is not even a logical necessity if the logic is grounded in different parameters than the dialectic more commonly employed in analysis of word worlds. in mathematics, the Queen of sciences, it goes without saying that all reference points are but relative and moot points of departure for problem development and nothing more.. and in actual reality all such points are arbitrary and metaphorical. no one need care nor not care. 'i' don't. and this refers to all things, dimensions and realms, 'homes' and 'reference points'. there is simply no way around this. i AM.and AM all that AM and i don't understand this and i don't care and i'm not home and i'm not refering to anything from any reference point but i address nothing which is the containing of all 'things' and points and references and 'i's. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Not caring has to be about something. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > let us say than neither caring nor non-caring. center-less non-caring > > > > is the High Indifference. there is simply no one to care, nothing to > > > care about and nothing in truth. again your logic used as necessity > > > here leads you astray. this is not about logic, is not bound by logic, > > > > > > > > Thought...not bound by logic....is useless. > > > > And thought is the only tool available. > > > > > thought IS the problem. > > the creator of logic, > > and the bound thereby... > > this lack of vision/truth/noself/understanding et al. > > leads you to the ridiculous assumption and statement that 'thought' is > > the only available tool. > > 'thought' is the lowest arena of being. > > to the 'All Containing', thought is insignificant and delusional from > > inception. > > usefulness can ONLY be found in the useless. > > (unless 'you' are a 'somebody' who 'needs 'somthing useful') > > It is only thought that brought you here......but it will not bring you home. You are nothing other then a clot of thoughts. > > > > > > > > and actually laughs at logical necessity as a silly self constraining > > > shackle. not everything is about 'something' no matter how hard the > > > monkey mind feels compelled to say that it is a law of logical > > > necessity. the monkey mind also thinks bananas are the only game in > > > town for tasty victuals. not a lot of variety or imagination. a > > > reactive system responding in inevitable ways with that which it > > > perceives as other in very predictable ways, (like saying that 'not > > > caring' has to be about 'something'). wrong! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Not caring' need a home.....a reference point. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > only in a relational world that is illusory, is a reference point a > > requisite. a reference point is not even a logical necessity if the > > logic is grounded in different parameters than the dialectic more > > commonly employed in analysis of word worlds. There is no platform outside of the thought world from which to view it. Understand that and nothing else is necessary. in mathematics, the > > Queen of sciences, it goes without saying that all reference points > > are but relative and moot points of departure for problem development > > and nothing more.. and in actual reality all such points are arbitrary " Actual reality " is a thought. > > and metaphorical. no one need care nor not care. 'i' don't. and this > > refers to all things, dimensions and realms, 'homes' and 'reference > > points'. there is simply no way around this. i AM.and AM all that AM > > and i don't understand this and i don't care and i'm not home and i'm > > not refering to anything from any reference point but i address > > nothing which is the containing of all 'things' and points and > > references and 'i's. You can go no further then I am......That is your totality. You are confined to the egg until the physical organism dies.......even with the Understanding. toombaru > .b b.b. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not caring has to be about something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let us say than neither caring nor non-caring. center-less > non-caring > > > > > > is the High Indifference. there is simply no one to care, nothing to > > > > care about and nothing in truth. again your logic used as necessity > > > > here leads you astray. this is not about logic, is not bound by > logic, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thought...not bound by logic....is useless. > > > > > > And thought is the only tool available. > > > > > > > > > > thought IS the problem. > > > > the creator of logic, > > > > and the bound thereby... > > > > this lack of vision/truth/noself/understanding et al. > > > > leads you to the ridiculous assumption and statement that 'thought' is > > > > the only available tool. > > > > 'thought' is the lowest arena of being. > > > > to the 'All Containing', thought is insignificant and delusional from > > > > inception. > > > > usefulness can ONLY be found in the useless. > > > > (unless 'you' are a 'somebody' who 'needs 'somthing useful') > > > It is only thought that brought you here......but it will not bring > you home. > > You are nothing other then a clot of thoughts. there is no 'you', no 'clot of thoughts', 'i' wasn't brought 'here'. 'i' AM here always. 'Home' is here always. no one has entered and no one ever departed and there is no one and nothing that will ever 'arrive'. > > > > and actually laughs at logical necessity as a silly self > constraining > > > > shackle. not everything is about 'something' no matter how hard the > > > > monkey mind feels compelled to say that it is a law of logical > > > > necessity. the monkey mind also thinks bananas are the only game in > > > > town for tasty victuals. not a lot of variety or imagination. a > > > > reactive system responding in inevitable ways with that which it > > > > perceives as other in very predictable ways, (like saying that 'not > > > > caring' has to be about 'something'). wrong! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Not caring' need a home.....a reference point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > only in a relational world that is illusory, is a reference point a > > > > requisite. a reference point is not even a logical necessity if the > > > > logic is grounded in different parameters than the dialectic more > > > > commonly employed in analysis of word worlds. There is no platform outside of the thought world from which to view it. > > Understand that and nothing else is necessary. outside of the platform of thought is the REAL. there is from HERE nothing to view. 'Understanding' is a facsimile only. as long as 'you' or 'i' or 'anyone' is talking about it, it's NOT 'it'.'you' will NEVER understand it. it IS.... without understanding...without description, thought, feeling, name. if 'you' are still around, there is absolutely NO knowledge or relationship with TRUTH. > in mathematics, the > > > > Queen of sciences, it goes without saying that all reference points > > > > are but relative and moot points of departure for problem development > > > > and nothing more.. and in actual reality all such points are arbitrary > " Actual reality " is a thought. this is utter horseshit. you really don't know what your talking about. thought is far too slow and too cumbersome and too ineffective to deal with or about actual reality. by saying this it is 'you' who are being unreal. > > and metaphorical. no one need care nor not care. 'i' don't. and this > > > > refers to all things, dimensions and realms, 'homes' and 'reference > > > > points'. there is simply no way around this. i AM.and AM all that AM > > > > and i don't understand this and i don't care and i'm not home and i'm > > > > not refering to anything from any reference point but i address > > > > nothing which is the containing of all 'things' and points and > > > > references and 'i's. > > > > > You can go no further then I am......That is your totality. > > You are confined to the egg until the physical organism > dies.......even with the Understanding. >toombaru 'you' are missing out on a lot! for 'you' evidently the above holds true. for a few rare beings there is much...so much....more! would that 'we' could speak further, but this is the Great Chasm that is set between those who are Real and those who are Searching. Om Tat Sat. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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