Guest guest Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 .... So, we come back to the principle that the human being is like any other object in manifestation, and that he is merely a dreamed character with senses which enable him to perceive things and cognise and interpret and discriminate between what he sees. If he sees impersonality in all this, that he is just another object in the manifestation, with certain additional endowments, like the sentience of animals plus intellect, that is the first step in perceiving the impersonality of the whole manifestation. In the impersonality of this manifestation there is an inherent understanding that whatever has appeared cannot possibly have any existence of its own. ... Conversations with Ramesh S. Balsekar Consciousness Speaks (Ramesh S Balsekar) published by Advaita Press PO Box 3479 Redondo Beach CA 90277 USA www.advaita.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Grant " <g-ssummerville wrote: > > ... So, we come back to the principle that the human being is like any other object in manifestation, and that he is merely a dreamed character with senses which enable him to perceive things and cognise and interpret and discriminate between what he sees. If he sees impersonality in all this, that he is just another object in the manifestation, with certain additional endowments, like the sentience of animals plus intellect, that is the first step in perceiving the impersonality of the whole manifestation. In the impersonality of this manifestation there is an inherent understanding that whatever has appeared cannot possibly have any existence of its own. ... > > Conversations with Ramesh S. Balsekar > > > > Consciousness Speaks (Ramesh S Balsekar) published by > Advaita Press > PO Box 3479 > Redondo Beach CA 90277 > USA > www.advaita.org if there is a first step involved then there are a limitless number of steps that never will reach their supposed destination. 'one' is One with 'that which is', or 'one' is talking about 'steps' that will lead one to 'that which is' and never get there by those steps. silly step yoga i guess. ....unless.... the last step... if it's really a final step.. if it's to be a successful last step.... that step will kill 'you'. and there will be no more talking about steps. ever. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Grant " <g-ssummerville@> wrote: > > > > ... So, we come back to the principle that the human being is like > any other object in manifestation, and that he is merely a dreamed > character with senses which enable him to perceive things and cognise > and interpret and discriminate between what he sees. If he sees > impersonality in all this, that he is just another object in the > manifestation, with certain additional endowments, like the sentience > of animals plus intellect, that is the first step in perceiving the > impersonality of the whole manifestation. In the impersonality of this > manifestation there is an inherent understanding that whatever has > appeared cannot possibly have any existence of its own. ... > > > > Conversations with Ramesh S. Balsekar > > > > > > > > Consciousness Speaks (Ramesh S Balsekar) published by > > Advaita Press > > PO Box 3479 > > Redondo Beach CA 90277 > > USA > > www.advaita.org > > > if there is a first step involved then there are a limitless number of > steps that never will reach their supposed destination. 'one' is One > with 'that which is', or 'one' is talking about 'steps' that will lead > one to 'that which is' and never get there by those steps. silly step > yoga i guess. > > ...unless.... > > the last step... > > if it's really a final step.. > > if it's to be a successful last step.... > > that step will kill 'you'. > > and there will be no more talking about steps. > > ever. > > .b b.b. > Do you think a chimp is thinking of and counting his steps .........B? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Grant " <g-ssummerville@> > wrote: > > > > > > ... So, we come back to the principle that the human being is like > > any other object in manifestation, and that he is merely a dreamed > > character with senses which enable him to perceive things and > cognise > > and interpret and discriminate between what he sees. If he sees > > impersonality in all this, that he is just another object in the > > manifestation, with certain additional endowments, like the > sentience > > of animals plus intellect, that is the first step in perceiving the > > impersonality of the whole manifestation. In the impersonality of > this > > manifestation there is an inherent understanding that whatever has > > appeared cannot possibly have any existence of its own. ... > > > > > > Conversations with Ramesh S. Balsekar > > > > > > > > > > > > Consciousness Speaks (Ramesh S Balsekar) published by > > > Advaita Press > > > PO Box 3479 > > > Redondo Beach CA 90277 > > > USA > > > www.advaita.org > > > > > > if there is a first step involved then there are a limitless number > of > > steps that never will reach their supposed destination. 'one' is One > > with 'that which is', or 'one' is talking about 'steps' that will > lead > > one to 'that which is' and never get there by those steps. silly > step > > yoga i guess. > > > > ...unless.... > > > > the last step... > > > > if it's really a final step.. > > > > if it's to be a successful last step.... > > > > that step will kill 'you'. > > > > and there will be no more talking about steps. > > > > ever. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Do you think a chimp is thinking of and counting his steps .........B? well melvin, no i don't think a chimp is counting or thinking about steps.. but.. i think a rather slow witted ape is reading and replying to my posts. silly little monkey! ..b bobji baba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Grant " <g-ssummerville wrote: > > ... So, we come back to the principle that the human being is like any other object in manifestation, and that he is merely a dreamed character with senses which enable him to perceive things and cognise and interpret and discriminate between what he sees. If he sees impersonality in all this, that he is just another object in the manifestation, with certain additional endowments, like the sentience of animals plus intellect, that is the first step in perceiving the impersonality of the whole manifestation. In the impersonality of this manifestation there is an inherent understanding that whatever has appeared cannot possibly have any existence of its own. ... > > Conversations with Ramesh S. Balsekar > > If what he says is true....and I believe it is......it would also have to pertain to the one who believes that he understands what Ramesh says. When the understanding is applied to the one who understands.......the most amazing thing happens. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Grant " <g-ssummerville@> wrote: > > > > ... So, we come back to the principle that the human being is like > any other object in manifestation, and that he is merely a dreamed > character with senses which enable him to perceive things and cognise > and interpret and discriminate between what he sees. If he sees > impersonality in all this, that he is just another object in the > manifestation, with certain additional endowments, like the sentience > of animals plus intellect, that is the first step in perceiving the > impersonality of the whole manifestation. In the impersonality of this > manifestation there is an inherent understanding that whatever has > appeared cannot possibly have any existence of its own. ... > > > > Conversations with Ramesh S. Balsekar > > > > > > > If what he says is true....and I believe it is......it would also have > to pertain to the one who believes that he understands what Ramesh says. > > When the understanding is applied to the one who understands.......the > most amazing thing happens. > > > > toombaru oh swell...you've taken your first of an endless number of 'steps'. see you when you get here. by taking steps, that will be a very long time. all those stepity-step-steps...an amazing thing alright! you're just a fan toombaru. so many are. when one needs no steps then one knows until then it's just on with the show. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Grant " <g-ssummerville@> wrote: > > > > > > ... So, we come back to the principle that the human being is like > > any other object in manifestation, and that he is merely a dreamed > > character with senses which enable him to perceive things and cognise > > and interpret and discriminate between what he sees. If he sees > > impersonality in all this, that he is just another object in the > > manifestation, with certain additional endowments, like the sentience > > of animals plus intellect, that is the first step in perceiving the > > impersonality of the whole manifestation. In the impersonality of this > > manifestation there is an inherent understanding that whatever has > > appeared cannot possibly have any existence of its own. ... > > > > > > Conversations with Ramesh S. Balsekar > > > > > > > > > > > > If what he says is true....and I believe it is......it would also have > > to pertain to the one who believes that he understands what Ramesh says. > > > > When the understanding is applied to the one who understands.......the > > most amazing thing happens. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > oh swell...you've taken your first of an endless number of 'steps'. > > > see you when you get here. > > > by taking steps, that will be a very long time. > > > all those stepity-step-steps...an amazing thing alright! > > > you're just a fan toombaru. > > > so many are. > > when one needs no steps > > then one knows > > until then > > it's just on with the show. > > > .b b.b. > To whom did Ramana speak? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Grant " <g-ssummerville@> wrote: > > > > > > > > ... So, we come back to the principle that the human being is like > > > any other object in manifestation, and that he is merely a dreamed > > > character with senses which enable him to perceive things and cognise > > > and interpret and discriminate between what he sees. If he sees > > > impersonality in all this, that he is just another object in the > > > manifestation, with certain additional endowments, like the sentience > > > of animals plus intellect, that is the first step in perceiving the > > > impersonality of the whole manifestation. In the impersonality of this > > > manifestation there is an inherent understanding that whatever has > > > appeared cannot possibly have any existence of its own. ... > > > > > > > > Conversations with Ramesh S. Balsekar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If what he says is true....and I believe it is......it would also have > > > to pertain to the one who believes that he understands what Ramesh > says. > > > > > > When the understanding is applied to the one who understands.......the > > > most amazing thing happens. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > oh swell...you've taken your first of an endless number of 'steps'. > > > > > > see you when you get here. > > > > > > by taking steps, that will be a very long time. > > > > > > all those stepity-step-steps...an amazing thing alright! > > > > > > you're just a fan toombaru. > > > > > > so many are. > > > > when one needs no steps > > > > then one knows > > > > until then > > > > it's just on with the show. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > To whom did Ramana speak? > > toombaru who do 'you' ask? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Grant " <g-ssummerville@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ... So, we come back to the principle that the human being is like > > > > any other object in manifestation, and that he is merely a dreamed > > > > character with senses which enable him to perceive things and > cognise > > > > and interpret and discriminate between what he sees. If he sees > > > > impersonality in all this, that he is just another object in the > > > > manifestation, with certain additional endowments, like the > sentience > > > > of animals plus intellect, that is the first step in perceiving the > > > > impersonality of the whole manifestation. In the impersonality > of this > > > > manifestation there is an inherent understanding that whatever has > > > > appeared cannot possibly have any existence of its own. ... > > > > > > > > > > Conversations with Ramesh S. Balsekar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If what he says is true....and I believe it is......it would > also have > > > > to pertain to the one who believes that he understands what Ramesh > > says. > > > > > > > > When the understanding is applied to the one who > understands.......the > > > > most amazing thing happens. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > oh swell...you've taken your first of an endless number of 'steps'. > > > > > > > > > see you when you get here. > > > > > > > > > by taking steps, that will be a very long time. > > > > > > > > > all those stepity-step-steps...an amazing thing alright! > > > > > > > > > you're just a fan toombaru. > > > > > > > > > so many are. > > > > > > when one needs no steps > > > > > > then one knows > > > > > > until then > > > > > > it's just on with the show. > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > To whom did Ramana speak? > > > > toombaru > > > > who do 'you' ask? > > .b b.b. > I am asking you. To whom did the Buddha speak? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Grant " <g-ssummerville@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ... So, we come back to the principle that the human being is like > > > > any other object in manifestation, and that he is merely a dreamed > > > > character with senses which enable him to perceive things and > cognise > > > > and interpret and discriminate between what he sees. If he sees > > > > impersonality in all this, that he is just another object in the > > > > manifestation, with certain additional endowments, like the > sentience > > > > of animals plus intellect, that is the first step in perceiving the > > > > impersonality of the whole manifestation. In the impersonality > of this > > > > manifestation there is an inherent understanding that whatever has > > > > appeared cannot possibly have any existence of its own. ... > > > > > > > > > > Conversations with Ramesh S. Balsekar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If what he says is true....and I believe it is......it would > also have > > > > to pertain to the one who believes that he understands what Ramesh > > says. > > > > > > > > When the understanding is applied to the one who > understands.......the > > > > most amazing thing happens. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > oh swell...you've taken your first of an endless number of 'steps'. > > > > > > > > > see you when you get here. > > > > > > > > > by taking steps, that will be a very long time. > > > > > > > > > all those stepity-step-steps...an amazing thing alright! > > > > > > > > > you're just a fan toombaru. > > > > > > > > > so many are. > > > > > > when one needs no steps > > > > > > then one knows > > > > > > until then > > > > > > it's just on with the show. > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > To whom did Ramana speak? > > > > toombaru > > > > who do 'you' ask? > > .b b.b. ramana...nisargadatta.... u.g.khrishnamurti...buddha.... jesus....balsekar.. and a whole-lot-more... are not many, nor two...nor one. in singularity all is all and that's all that is. in dreamy manifestation this alters not every habit nor custom, thought nor word, belief nor realization, is to be honored one of another. each is the all for each as it is my supreme enlightenment is second to none. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Grant " <g-ssummerville@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ... So, we come back to the principle that the human being > is like > > > > > any other object in manifestation, and that he is merely a dreamed > > > > > character with senses which enable him to perceive things and > > cognise > > > > > and interpret and discriminate between what he sees. If he sees > > > > > impersonality in all this, that he is just another object in the > > > > > manifestation, with certain additional endowments, like the > > sentience > > > > > of animals plus intellect, that is the first step in > perceiving the > > > > > impersonality of the whole manifestation. In the impersonality > > of this > > > > > manifestation there is an inherent understanding that whatever has > > > > > appeared cannot possibly have any existence of its own. ... > > > > > > > > > > > > Conversations with Ramesh S. Balsekar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If what he says is true....and I believe it is......it would > > also have > > > > > to pertain to the one who believes that he understands what Ramesh > > > says. > > > > > > > > > > When the understanding is applied to the one who > > understands.......the > > > > > most amazing thing happens. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > oh swell...you've taken your first of an endless number of 'steps'. > > > > > > > > > > > > see you when you get here. > > > > > > > > > > > > by taking steps, that will be a very long time. > > > > > > > > > > > > all those stepity-step-steps...an amazing thing alright! > > > > > > > > > > > > you're just a fan toombaru. > > > > > > > > > > > > so many are. > > > > > > > > when one needs no steps > > > > > > > > then one knows > > > > > > > > until then > > > > > > > > it's just on with the show. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whom did Ramana speak? > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > who do 'you' ask? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > I am asking you. > > To whom did the Buddha speak? > > > toombaru I am telling you. i cannot answer one who needs to ask. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Grant " <g-ssummerville@> wrote: > > > > > > ... So, we come back to the principle that the human being is like > > any other object in manifestation, and that he is merely a dreamed > > character with senses which enable him to perceive things and cognise > > and interpret and discriminate between what he sees. If he sees > > impersonality in all this, that he is just another object in the > > manifestation, with certain additional endowments, like the sentience > > of animals plus intellect, that is the first step in perceiving the > > impersonality of the whole manifestation. In the impersonality of this > > manifestation there is an inherent understanding that whatever has > > appeared cannot possibly have any existence of its own. ... > > > > > > Conversations with Ramesh S. Balsekar > > > > > > > > > > > > If what he says is true....and I believe it is......it would also have > > to pertain to the one who believes that he understands what Ramesh says. > > > > When the understanding is applied to the one who understands.......the > > most amazing thing happens. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > oh swell...you've taken your first of an endless number of 'steps'. > > > see you when you get here. > > > by taking steps, that will be a very long time. > > > all those stepity-step-steps...an amazing thing alright! > > > you're just a fan toombaru. > > > so many are. > > when one needs no steps > > then one knows > > until then > > it's just on with the show. > > > .b b.b. > Those who believe that they have arrived.....are saddled with the belief in someone arriving somewhere. toombaru toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 > > > my supreme enlightenment is second to none. > > > .b b.b. > To whom do you speak? toobaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Grant " <g-ssummerville@> wrote: > > > > > > > > ... So, we come back to the principle that the human being is like > > > any other object in manifestation, and that he is merely a dreamed > > > character with senses which enable him to perceive things and cognise > > > and interpret and discriminate between what he sees. If he sees > > > impersonality in all this, that he is just another object in the > > > manifestation, with certain additional endowments, like the sentience > > > of animals plus intellect, that is the first step in perceiving the > > > impersonality of the whole manifestation. In the impersonality of this > > > manifestation there is an inherent understanding that whatever has > > > appeared cannot possibly have any existence of its own. ... > > > > > > > > Conversations with Ramesh S. Balsekar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If what he says is true....and I believe it is......it would also have > > > to pertain to the one who believes that he understands what Ramesh > says. > > > > > > When the understanding is applied to the one who understands.......the > > > most amazing thing happens. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > oh swell...you've taken your first of an endless number of 'steps'. > > > > > > see you when you get here. > > > > > > by taking steps, that will be a very long time. > > > > > > all those stepity-step-steps...an amazing thing alright! > > > > > > you're just a fan toombaru. > > > > > > so many are. > > > > when one needs no steps > > > > then one knows > > > > until then > > > > it's just on with the show. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Those who believe that they have arrived.....are saddled with the > belief in someone arriving somewhere. > > > toombaru > > > toombaru ah toombaru, toombaru...those who think what you think here are truly lost. to 'you' there is a logical necessity for there to be a 'someone' and a 'somewhere'...even in negation you create them. this is because of the constraints that your 'thought system' places on you. when the pseudo self is destroyed in the breaking of those prison walls...and true Freedom is attained...all such ideation regarding 'someones' and 'no ones' evaporates as an unneeded fetter and but a quizzical oddity of phantom-land. ..b bobji baba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > > > my supreme enlightenment is second to none. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > To whom do you speak? > > > toobaru toobaru?, it bears repeating: let those with ears to hear.....hear! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > my supreme enlightenment is second to none. > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > To whom do you speak? > > > > > > toobaru > > > > > > toobaru?, > > it bears repeating: > > let those with ears to hear.....hear! > > > .b b.b. > .........so they may take a step out of prison? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my supreme enlightenment is second to none. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whom do you speak? > > > > > > > > > toobaru > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru?, > > > > it bears repeating: > > > > let those with ears to hear.....hear! > > > > > > .b b.b. > ........so they may take a step out of prison? > > > > toombaru > Bobby.................you're shining a brick. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Grant " <g-ssummerville@> wrote: > > > > > > > > ... So, we come back to the principle that the human being is like > > > any other object in manifestation, and that he is merely a dreamed > > > character with senses which enable him to perceive things and cognise > > > and interpret and discriminate between what he sees. If he sees > > > impersonality in all this, that he is just another object in the > > > manifestation, with certain additional endowments, like the sentience > > > of animals plus intellect, that is the first step in perceiving the > > > impersonality of the whole manifestation. In the impersonality of this > > > manifestation there is an inherent understanding that whatever has > > > appeared cannot possibly have any existence of its own. ... > > > > > > > > Conversations with Ramesh S. Balsekar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If what he says is true....and I believe it is......it would also have > > > to pertain to the one who believes that he understands what Ramesh > says. > > > > > > When the understanding is applied to the one who understands.......the > > > most amazing thing happens. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > oh swell...you've taken your first of an endless number of 'steps'. > > > > > > see you when you get here. > > > > > > by taking steps, that will be a very long time. > > > > > > all those stepity-step-steps...an amazing thing alright! > > > > > > you're just a fan toombaru. > > > > > > so many are. > > > > when one needs no steps > > > > then one knows > > > > until then > > > > it's just on with the show. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > To whom did Ramana speak? > > toombaru > to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my supreme enlightenment is second to none. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whom do you speak? > > > > > > > > > toobaru > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru?, > > > > it bears repeating: > > > > let those with ears to hear.....hear! > > > > > > .b b.b. > ........so they may take a step out of prison? > > > > toombaru no need for any step whatsoever. i don't understand how you even think so. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my supreme enlightenment is second to none. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whom do you speak? > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru?, > > > > > > it bears repeating: > > > > > > let those with ears to hear.....hear! > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ........so they may take a step out of prison? > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > Bobby.................you're shining a brick. > > > > toombaru sorry toom...that brick won't become a mirror and your comment above is the proverbial dog that will not hunt. it is self reference and not a pertinent comment to what was stated beforehand. if you have no ears to hear of course all such words are foolishness. this has been the problem among the blind with those that see for time immemorial. sorry about your luck. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my supreme enlightenment is second to none. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whom do you speak? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru?, > > > > > > > > it bears repeating: > > > > > > > > let those with ears to hear.....hear! > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ........so they may take a step out of prison? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > Bobby.................you're shining a brick. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > sorry toom...that brick won't become a mirror and your comment above > is the proverbial dog that will not hunt. it is self reference and not > a pertinent comment to what was stated beforehand. if you have no ears > to hear of course all such words are foolishness. this has been the > problem among the blind with those that see for time immemorial. sorry > about your luck. > > > .b b.b. > You believe in luck? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my supreme enlightenment is second to none. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whom do you speak? > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru?, > > > > > > it bears repeating: > > > > > > let those with ears to hear.....hear! > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ........so they may take a step out of prison? > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > no need for any step whatsoever. i don't understand how you even think so. > > > .b b.b. > Your statement about having ears to hear implies someone to do something.....even it that something is nothing. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my supreme enlightenment is second to none. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whom do you speak? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru?, > > > > > > > > > > it bears repeating: > > > > > > > > > > let those with ears to hear.....hear! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ........so they may take a step out of prison? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bobby.................you're shining a brick. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > sorry toom...that brick won't become a mirror and your comment above > > is the proverbial dog that will not hunt. it is self reference and not > > a pertinent comment to what was stated beforehand. if you have no ears > > to hear of course all such words are foolishness. this has been the > > problem among the blind with those that see for time immemorial. sorry > > about your luck. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > You believe in luck? > > toombaru i believe in you. your luck is just more stuff and karma. i judge not. and am not judged. do you judge 'believing and belief'? how interesting! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my supreme enlightenment is second to none. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whom do you speak? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru?, > > > > > > > > it bears repeating: > > > > > > > > let those with ears to hear.....hear! > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ........so they may take a step out of prison? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > no need for any step whatsoever. i don't understand how you even > think so. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > Your statement about having ears to hear implies someone to do > something.....even it that something is nothing. > > > toombaru if you only knew toombaru. the capacity of 'nothing' is beyond comprehension. all things are possible with 'nothing'. nothing is impossible with nothing. we speak from levels vast distances apart in mind and thought. but i am with THAT which is... and is NOTHING and all shall be well. even for those outside the gates...all shall be well. we rejoice in this knowledge. and we are not two. but one of 'us' understands and 'you don't. ;-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my supreme enlightenment is second to none. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whom do you speak? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toobaru?, > > > > > > > > > > it bears repeating: > > > > > > > > > > let those with ears to hear.....hear! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ........so they may take a step out of prison? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bobby.................you're shining a brick. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > sorry toom...that brick won't become a mirror and your comment above > > is the proverbial dog that will not hunt. it is self reference and not > > a pertinent comment to what was stated beforehand. if you have no ears > > to hear of course all such words are foolishness. this has been the > > problem among the blind with those that see for time immemorial. sorry > > about your luck. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > You believe in luck? > > toombaru i don't believe in anything. there is no one to believe anything. there is nothing to believe nor believe in. the use of the first person personal is a language device only. employed only to 'inform' self.. re self.. from self.. as self... there is no other. there is no more. don't believe it. it will become a goal. 'you' will stay lost. i am no more..neither lost nor found... and 'i' could care less. ..b bobji baba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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