whats the purpose in fighting with words

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whats the purpose in fighting with words

he says this...she says that...fuss...fuss...fuss...

in the end what are we fighting for...

to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ?

words are mere jada jada...we act like they are our masters...

we are sticking up for them like we must protect them from being

beaten...what are we...their slaves ?

mere idiots runing around this place identifying with one

word....resisting another...pretending to be wise and loving ?

while trying to help survive our favorite-words...by sometimes trying

to kill the apparent dangerous-words...

we tend to see some words like hungry lions...trying to kill our loved-

words...why is it so difficult to just see all words as mere words only

....iietsa

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Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote:

>

> whats the purpose in fighting with words

> he says this...she says that...fuss...fuss...fuss...

> in the end what are we fighting for...

> to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ?

> words are mere jada jada...we act like they are our masters...

> we are sticking up for them like we must protect them from being

> beaten...what are we...their slaves ?

> mere idiots runing around this place identifying with one

> word....resisting another...pretending to be wise and loving ?

> while trying to help survive our favorite-words...by sometimes trying

> to kill the apparent dangerous-words...

> we tend to see some words like hungry lions...trying to kill our

loved-

> words...why is it so difficult to just see all words as mere words

only

> ...iietsa

>

 

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Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote:

>

> whats the purpose in fighting with words

> he says this...she says that...fuss...fuss...fuss...

> in the end what are we fighting for...

> to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ?

> words are mere jada jada...we act like they are our masters...

> we are sticking up for them like we must protect them from being

> beaten...what are we...their slaves ?

> mere idiots runing around this place identifying with one

> word....resisting another...pretending to be wise and loving ?

> while trying to help survive our favorite-words...by sometimes trying

> to kill the apparent dangerous-words...

> we tend to see some words like hungry lions...trying to kill our loved-

> words...why is it so difficult to just see all words as mere words only

> ...iietsa

>

 

 

 

............words are all I have......to steal you heart away.

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> >

> > whats the purpose in fighting with words

> > he says this...she says that...fuss...fuss...fuss...

> > in the end what are we fighting for...

> > to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ?

> > words are mere jada jada...we act like they are our masters...

> > we are sticking up for them like we must protect them from being

> > beaten...what are we...their slaves ?

> > mere idiots runing around this place identifying with one

> > word....resisting another...pretending to be wise and loving ?

> > while trying to help survive our favorite-words...by sometimes

trying

> > to kill the apparent dangerous-words...

> > we tend to see some words like hungry lions...trying to kill our

loved-

> > words...why is it so difficult to just see all words as mere

words only

> > ...iietsa

> >

>

>

>

> ...........words are all I have......to steal you heart away.

>

>

> toombaru

>

my heart is not for steal...

nothing can affect my heart...

reactions is in the mind only...

....iietsa

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > whats the purpose in fighting with words

> > > > he says this...she says that...fuss...fuss...fuss...

> > > > in the end what are we fighting for...

> > > > to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ?

> > > > words are mere jada jada...we act like they are our masters...

> > > > we are sticking up for them like we must protect them from being

> > > > beaten...what are we...their slaves ?

> > > > mere idiots runing around this place identifying with one

> > > > word....resisting another...pretending to be wise and loving ?

> > > > while trying to help survive our favorite-words...by sometimes

> > trying

> > > > to kill the apparent dangerous-words...

> > > > we tend to see some words like hungry lions...trying to kill our

> > loved-

> > > > words...why is it so difficult to just see all words as mere

> > words only

> > > > ...iietsa

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ...........words are all I have......to steal you heart away.

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> > >

> > my heart is not for steal...

> > nothing can affect my heart...

> > reactions is in the mind only...

> > ...iietsa

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

Do you imagine that they are separated?

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > whats the purpose in fighting with words

> > > > > he says this...she says that...fuss...fuss...fuss...

> > > > > in the end what are we fighting for...

> > > > > to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ?

> > > > > words are mere jada jada...we act like they are our

masters...

> > > > > we are sticking up for them like we must protect them from

being

> > > > > beaten...what are we...their slaves ?

> > > > > mere idiots runing around this place identifying with one

> > > > > word....resisting another...pretending to be wise and

loving ?

> > > > > while trying to help survive our favorite-words...by

sometimes

> > > trying

> > > > > to kill the apparent dangerous-words...

> > > > > we tend to see some words like hungry lions...trying to

kill our

> > > loved-

> > > > > words...why is it so difficult to just see all words as

mere

> > > words only

> > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ...........words are all I have......to steal you heart away.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > > >

> > > my heart is not for steal...

> > > nothing can affect my heart...

> > > reactions is in the mind only...

> > > ...iietsa

> > >

> >

> >

> Do you imagine that they are separated?

>

>

> toombaru

 

 

 

 

words are all [i ]have......to steal [YOU] heart away....????????

 

 

I... I...I...YOU...YOU...YOU...WHO...Who...Whoo..????????????????????

 

........bob(the Cheshire not even a smile left over)

 

P.S........Nobodaddy all the Way Down (or Up)

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

<lastrain@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > whats the purpose in fighting with words

> > > > > he says this...she says that...fuss...fuss...fuss...

> > > > > in the end what are we fighting for...

> > > > > to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ?

> > > > > words are mere jada jada...we act like they are our

masters...

> > > > > we are sticking up for them like we must protect them from

being

> > > > > beaten...what are we...their slaves ?

> > > > > mere idiots runing around this place identifying with one

> > > > > word....resisting another...pretending to be wise and

loving ?

> > > > > while trying to help survive our favorite-words...by

sometimes

> > > trying

> > > > > to kill the apparent dangerous-words...

> > > > > we tend to see some words like hungry lions...trying to

kill our

> > > loved-

> > > > > words...why is it so difficult to just see all words as

mere

> > > words only

> > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ...........words are all I have......to steal you heart away.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > > >

> > > my heart is not for steal...

> > > nothing can affect my heart...

> > > reactions is in the mind only...

> > > ...iietsa

> > >

> >

> >

> Do you imagine that they are separated?

>

>

> toombaru

>

I am not the one that imagine things...

separation and its other side of the coin are both of the mind...

....iietsa

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Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

> <lastrain@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@>

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > whats the purpose in fighting with words

> > > > > > he says this...she says that...fuss...fuss...fuss...

> > > > > > in the end what are we fighting for...

> > > > > > to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ?

> > > > > > words are mere jada jada...we act like they are our

> masters...

> > > > > > we are sticking up for them like we must protect them from

> being

> > > > > > beaten...what are we...their slaves ?

> > > > > > mere idiots runing around this place identifying with one

> > > > > > word....resisting another...pretending to be wise and

> loving ?

> > > > > > while trying to help survive our favorite-words...by

> sometimes

> > > > trying

> > > > > > to kill the apparent dangerous-words...

> > > > > > we tend to see some words like hungry lions...trying to

> kill our

> > > > loved-

> > > > > > words...why is it so difficult to just see all words as

> mere

> > > > words only

> > > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ...........words are all I have......to steal you heart away.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > toombaru

> > > > >

> > > > my heart is not for steal...

> > > > nothing can affect my heart...

> > > > reactions is in the mind only...

> > > > ...iietsa

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Do you imagine that they are separated?

> >

> >

> > toombaru

> >

> I am not the one that imagine things...

> separation and its other side of the coin are both of the mind...

> ...iietsa

>

 

 

 

Thinking that you are not the one that imagines things.....is separation.

 

Thinking that separation does not exist......brings it to existence.

 

 

Thinking is......itself separation.

 

 

(Era......this one's for you)

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

<lastrain@>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

> > <lastrain@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > whats the purpose in fighting with words

> > > > > > > he says this...she says that...fuss...fuss...fuss...

> > > > > > > in the end what are we fighting for...

> > > > > > > to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ?

> > > > > > > words are mere jada jada...we act like they are our

> > masters...

> > > > > > > we are sticking up for them like we must protect them

from

> > being

> > > > > > > beaten...what are we...their slaves ?

> > > > > > > mere idiots runing around this place identifying with

one

> > > > > > > word....resisting another...pretending to be wise and

> > loving ?

> > > > > > > while trying to help survive our favorite-words...by

> > sometimes

> > > > > trying

> > > > > > > to kill the apparent dangerous-words...

> > > > > > > we tend to see some words like hungry lions...trying

to

> > kill our

> > > > > loved-

> > > > > > > words...why is it so difficult to just see all words

as

> > mere

> > > > > words only

> > > > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ...........words are all I have......to steal you heart

away.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > >

> > > > > my heart is not for steal...

> > > > > nothing can affect my heart...

> > > > > reactions is in the mind only...

> > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Do you imagine that they are separated?

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> > >

> > I am not the one that imagine things...

> > separation and its other side of the coin are both of the mind...

> > ...iietsa

> >

>

>

>

> Thinking that you are not the one that imagines things.....is

separation.

>

> Thinking that separation does not exist......brings it to

existence.

>

>

> Thinking is......itself separation.

>

>

> (Era......this one's for you)

>

> toombaru

>

 

I never think

....iietsa

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Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

> <lastrain@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@>

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

> > > <lastrain@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > whats the purpose in fighting with words

> > > > > > > > he says this...she says that...fuss...fuss...fuss...

> > > > > > > > in the end what are we fighting for...

> > > > > > > > to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ?

> > > > > > > > words are mere jada jada...we act like they are our

> > > masters...

> > > > > > > > we are sticking up for them like we must protect them

> from

> > > being

> > > > > > > > beaten...what are we...their slaves ?

> > > > > > > > mere idiots runing around this place identifying with

> one

> > > > > > > > word....resisting another...pretending to be wise and

> > > loving ?

> > > > > > > > while trying to help survive our favorite-words...by

> > > sometimes

> > > > > > trying

> > > > > > > > to kill the apparent dangerous-words...

> > > > > > > > we tend to see some words like hungry lions...trying

> to

> > > kill our

> > > > > > loved-

> > > > > > > > words...why is it so difficult to just see all words

> as

> > > mere

> > > > > > words only

> > > > > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ...........words are all I have......to steal you heart

> away.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > my heart is not for steal...

> > > > > > nothing can affect my heart...

> > > > > > reactions is in the mind only...

> > > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Do you imagine that they are separated?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > > >

> > > I am not the one that imagine things...

> > > separation and its other side of the coin are both of the mind...

> > > ...iietsa

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > Thinking that you are not the one that imagines things.....is

> separation.

> >

> > Thinking that separation does not exist......brings it to

> existence.

> >

> >

> > Thinking is......itself separation.

> >

> >

> > (Era......this one's for you)

> >

> > toombaru

> >

>

> I never think

> ...iietsa

>

 

 

You just did.......or thought you did.

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

<lastrain@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

> > <lastrain@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

> > > > <lastrain@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa "

<iietsa@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > whats the purpose in fighting with words

> > > > > > > > > he says this...she says

that...fuss...fuss...fuss...

> > > > > > > > > in the end what are we fighting for...

> > > > > > > > > to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ?

> > > > > > > > > words are mere jada jada...we act like they are

our

> > > > masters...

> > > > > > > > > we are sticking up for them like we must protect

them

> > from

> > > > being

> > > > > > > > > beaten...what are we...their slaves ?

> > > > > > > > > mere idiots runing around this place identifying

with

> > one

> > > > > > > > > word....resisting another...pretending to be wise

and

> > > > loving ?

> > > > > > > > > while trying to help survive our favorite-

words...by

> > > > sometimes

> > > > > > > trying

> > > > > > > > > to kill the apparent dangerous-words...

> > > > > > > > > we tend to see some words like hungry

lions...trying

> > to

> > > > kill our

> > > > > > > loved-

> > > > > > > > > words...why is it so difficult to just see all

words

> > as

> > > > mere

> > > > > > > words only

> > > > > > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ...........words are all I have......to steal you

heart

> > away.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > my heart is not for steal...

> > > > > > > nothing can affect my heart...

> > > > > > > reactions is in the mind only...

> > > > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Do you imagine that they are separated?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > toombaru

> > > > >

> > > > I am not the one that imagine things...

> > > > separation and its other side of the coin are both of the

mind...

> > > > ...iietsa

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Thinking that you are not the one that imagines things.....is

> > separation.

> > >

> > > Thinking that separation does not exist......brings it to

> > existence.

> > >

> > >

> > > Thinking is......itself separation.

> > >

> > >

> > > (Era......this one's for you)

> > >

> > > toombaru

> > >

> >

> > I never think

> > ...iietsa

> >

>

>

> You just did.......or thought you did.

>

>

> toombaru

>

you imagine yourself to think...so much that you probably would go

all the way and say that its a fact ?

and because of this misidentification with the mind...you assume

that it is a fact for me as well ?

the mind and its activities is all in me alright...but I am not in

the mind...I am not a mind-product...

....iietsa

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Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

> <lastrain@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

> > > <lastrain@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

> > > > > <lastrain@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa "

> <iietsa@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > whats the purpose in fighting with words

> > > > > > > > > > he says this...she says

> that...fuss...fuss...fuss...

> > > > > > > > > > in the end what are we fighting for...

> > > > > > > > > > to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ?

> > > > > > > > > > words are mere jada jada...we act like they are

> our

> > > > > masters...

> > > > > > > > > > we are sticking up for them like we must protect

> them

> > > from

> > > > > being

> > > > > > > > > > beaten...what are we...their slaves ?

> > > > > > > > > > mere idiots runing around this place identifying

> with

> > > one

> > > > > > > > > > word....resisting another...pretending to be wise

> and

> > > > > loving ?

> > > > > > > > > > while trying to help survive our favorite-

> words...by

> > > > > sometimes

> > > > > > > > trying

> > > > > > > > > > to kill the apparent dangerous-words...

> > > > > > > > > > we tend to see some words like hungry

> lions...trying

> > > to

> > > > > kill our

> > > > > > > > loved-

> > > > > > > > > > words...why is it so difficult to just see all

> words

> > > as

> > > > > mere

> > > > > > > > words only

> > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ...........words are all I have......to steal you

> heart

> > > away.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > my heart is not for steal...

> > > > > > > > nothing can affect my heart...

> > > > > > > > reactions is in the mind only...

> > > > > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Do you imagine that they are separated?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > >

> > > > > I am not the one that imagine things...

> > > > > separation and its other side of the coin are both of the

> mind...

> > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thinking that you are not the one that imagines things.....is

> > > separation.

> > > >

> > > > Thinking that separation does not exist......brings it to

> > > existence.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thinking is......itself separation.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > (Era......this one's for you)

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > > >

> > >

> > > I never think

> > > ...iietsa

> > >

> >

> >

> > You just did.......or thought you did.

> >

> >

> > toombaru

> >

> you imagine yourself to think...so much that you probably would go

> all the way and say that its a fact ?

> and because of this misidentification with the mind...you assume

> that it is a fact for me as well ?

> the mind and its activities is all in me alright...but I am not in

> the mind...I am not a mind-product...

> ...iietsa

>

 

 

 

Are you saying that you are merely a thought?

 

 

 

toombaru

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

<lastrain@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

> > <lastrain@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

> > > > <lastrain@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa "

<iietsa@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

> > > > > > <lastrain@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa "

> > <iietsa@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > whats the purpose in fighting with words

> > > > > > > > > > > he says this...she says

> > that...fuss...fuss...fuss...

> > > > > > > > > > > in the end what are we fighting for...

> > > > > > > > > > > to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ?

> > > > > > > > > > > words are mere jada jada...we act like they

are

> > our

> > > > > > masters...

> > > > > > > > > > > we are sticking up for them like we must

protect

> > them

> > > > from

> > > > > > being

> > > > > > > > > > > beaten...what are we...their slaves ?

> > > > > > > > > > > mere idiots runing around this place

identifying

> > with

> > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > word....resisting another...pretending to be

wise

> > and

> > > > > > loving ?

> > > > > > > > > > > while trying to help survive our favorite-

> > words...by

> > > > > > sometimes

> > > > > > > > > trying

> > > > > > > > > > > to kill the apparent dangerous-words...

> > > > > > > > > > > we tend to see some words like hungry

> > lions...trying

> > > > to

> > > > > > kill our

> > > > > > > > > loved-

> > > > > > > > > > > words...why is it so difficult to just see all

> > words

> > > > as

> > > > > > mere

> > > > > > > > > words only

> > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ...........words are all I have......to steal

you

> > heart

> > > > away.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > my heart is not for steal...

> > > > > > > > > nothing can affect my heart...

> > > > > > > > > reactions is in the mind only...

> > > > > > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Do you imagine that they are separated?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > I am not the one that imagine things...

> > > > > > separation and its other side of the coin are both of

the

> > mind...

> > > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Thinking that you are not the one that imagines

things.....is

> > > > separation.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thinking that separation does not exist......brings it to

> > > > existence.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Thinking is......itself separation.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > (Era......this one's for you)

> > > > >

> > > > > toombaru

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > I never think

> > > > ...iietsa

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > You just did.......or thought you did.

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> > >

> > you imagine yourself to think...so much that you probably would

go

> > all the way and say that its a fact ?

> > and because of this misidentification with the mind...you assume

> > that it is a fact for me as well ?

> > the mind and its activities is all in me alright...but I am not

in

> > the mind...I am not a mind-product...

> > ...iietsa

> >

>

>

>

> Are you saying that you are merely a thought?

>

>

>

> toombaru

>

time is created by thought....and thinking is sustained by time...

its a circle...made up by many thoughts...and I am not in

time...time is in me...

....iietsa

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote:

 

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ...........words are all I have......to steal you heart

> away.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > my heart is not for steal...

> > > > > > nothing can affect my heart...

> > > > > > reactions is in the mind only...

> > > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Do you imagine that they are separated?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > > >

> > > I am not the one that imagine things...

> > > separation and its other side of the coin are both of the mind...

> > > ...iietsa

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > Thinking that you are not the one that imagines things.....is

> separation.

> >

> > Thinking that separation does not exist......brings it to

> existence.

> >

> >

> > Thinking is......itself separation.

> >

> >

> > (Era......this one's for you)

> >

> > toombaru

> >

>

> I never think

> ...iietsa

 

" I never cry. "

 

Alice Cooper

[Guest guest]

> Thinking that you are not the one that imagines things.....is

separation.

>

> Thinking that separation does not exist......brings it to

existence.

>

>

> Thinking is......itself separation.

>

>

> (Era......this one's for you)

>

> toombaru

>

 

I never think

....iietsa

 

>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

but thinking happens...

 

thinking is not a " doing " by a somebody...

 

but if the car keys get lost there is

some thinking going on to find them.

 

" inner dialog " and thinking are not the same.

 

there can be an end to " inner dialog " ...

 

but there is still thinking...

 

there is still problem solving...

 

thinking can be silent, " in the dark " as it were...

 

 

Bill

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> >

> > whats the purpose in fighting with words

> > he says this...she says that...fuss...fuss...fuss...

> > in the end what are we fighting for...

> > to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ?

> > words are mere jada jada...we act like they are our masters...

> > we are sticking up for them like we must protect them from being

> > beaten...what are we...their slaves ?

> > mere idiots runing around this place identifying with one

> > word....resisting another...pretending to be wise and loving ?

> > while trying to help survive our favorite-words...by sometimes trying

> > to kill the apparent dangerous-words...

> > we tend to see some words like hungry lions...trying to kill our

> loved-

> > words...why is it so difficult to just see all words as mere words

> only

> > ...iietsa

> >

>

>

>

 

two can be exchanging words

one fighting

the other not

one trying to " best " the other

the other not

the one striving

the other just being

 

it is a matter of perspective

 

 

Bill

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart

wrote:

>

> > Thinking that you are not the one that imagines things.....is

> separation.

> >

> > Thinking that separation does not exist......brings it to

> existence.

> >

> >

> > Thinking is......itself separation.

> >

> >

> > (Era......this one's for you)

> >

> > toombaru

> >

>

> I never think

> ...iietsa

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

>

> but thinking happens...

>

> thinking is not a " doing " by a somebody...

>

> but if the car keys get lost there is

> some thinking going on to find them.

>

> " inner dialog " and thinking are not the same.

>

> there can be an end to " inner dialog " ...

>

> but there is still thinking...

>

> there is still problem solving...

>

> thinking can be silent, " in the dark " as it were...

>

>

> Bill

>

it seems that you are emphasizing thought and its movement in time

created by itself...I emphasize no thing...

....iietsa

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@>

> wrote:

> >

> > > Thinking that you are not the one that imagines things.....is

> > separation.

> > >

> > > Thinking that separation does not exist......brings it to

> > existence.

> > >

> > >

> > > Thinking is......itself separation.

> > >

> > >

> > > (Era......this one's for you)

> > >

> > > toombaru

> > >

> >

> > I never think

> > ...iietsa

> >

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >

> > but thinking happens...

> >

> > thinking is not a " doing " by a somebody...

> >

> > but if the car keys get lost there is

> > some thinking going on to find them.

> >

> > " inner dialog " and thinking are not the same.

> >

> > there can be an end to " inner dialog " ...

> >

> > but there is still thinking...

> >

> > there is still problem solving...

> >

> > thinking can be silent, " in the dark " as it were...

> >

> >

> > Bill

> >

> it seems that you are emphasizing thought and its movement in time

> created by itself...I emphasize no thing...

> ...iietsa

 

if that is what seems to you... then you have got it wrong.

 

I in no way emphasize thought.

 

I said that thinking happens, and that there is thinking

that is not characterized by thought.

 

So absurd! You say I am emphasizing thought and I didn't

even use the word " thought " !

 

What do you do for a living? Do you have to work?

Do you ever have to solve problems?

Solving problems involves thinking by definition.

 

But that thinking does not need to entail " inner dialog "

or " thought chains " . The solving of a problem can be

in effect " dreamed " . It is a deep, mysterious process.

But it is still rightfully called " thinking " ... even if

it is very different from what people ordinarily call

thinking.

 

As I said, solving problems entails thinking.

What if you lose your car keys? How do you find them?

Do you ever solve any " problems " ... ?

 

Bill

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@>

> wrote:

> >

> > > Thinking that you are not the one that imagines things.....is

> > separation.

> > >

> > > Thinking that separation does not exist......brings it to

> > existence.

> > >

> > >

> > > Thinking is......itself separation.

> > >

> > >

> > > (Era......this one's for you)

> > >

> > > toombaru

> > >

> >

> > I never think

> > ...iietsa

> >

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >

> > but thinking happens...

> >

> > thinking is not a " doing " by a somebody...

> >

> > but if the car keys get lost there is

> > some thinking going on to find them.

> >

> > " inner dialog " and thinking are not the same.

> >

> > there can be an end to " inner dialog " ...

> >

> > but there is still thinking...

> >

> > there is still problem solving...

> >

> > thinking can be silent, " in the dark " as it were...

> >

> >

> > Bill

> >

> it seems that you are emphasizing thought and its movement in time

> created by itself...I emphasize no thing...

> ...iietsa

>

 

Yes, the difference between freedom and bondage, if there is such a

thing, is in the EMPHASIS. This is what all this is all about,

emphasis. But Bill can Also be " right, " since there is also such a

thing as over emphasis.

 

Still, iietsa's poetry, and it is absolutely poetry, is beautiful.

 

Bill's prose, is too. But whereas prose puts the accent there, poetry

puts it here.

 

~*~

Sky

(is not bob)

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart "

<pliantheart@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Thinking that you are not the one that imagines things.....is

> > > separation.

> > > >

> > > > Thinking that separation does not exist......brings it to

> > > existence.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thinking is......itself separation.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > (Era......this one's for you)

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > > >

> > >

> > > I never think

> > > ...iietsa

> > >

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >

> > > but thinking happens...

> > >

> > > thinking is not a " doing " by a somebody...

> > >

> > > but if the car keys get lost there is

> > > some thinking going on to find them.

> > >

> > > " inner dialog " and thinking are not the same.

> > >

> > > there can be an end to " inner dialog " ...

> > >

> > > but there is still thinking...

> > >

> > > there is still problem solving...

> > >

> > > thinking can be silent, " in the dark " as it were...

> > >

> > >

> > > Bill

> > >

> > it seems that you are emphasizing thought and its movement in

time

> > created by itself...I emphasize no thing...

> > ...iietsa

>

> if that is what seems to you... then you have got it wrong.

>

> I in no way emphasize thought.

>

> I said that thinking happens, and that there is thinking

> that is not characterized by thought.

>

> So absurd! You say I am emphasizing thought and I didn't

> even use the word " thought " !

>

> What do you do for a living? Do you have to work?

> Do you ever have to solve problems?

> Solving problems involves thinking by definition.

>

> But that thinking does not need to entail " inner dialog "

> or " thought chains " . The solving of a problem can be

> in effect " dreamed " . It is a deep, mysterious process.

> But it is still rightfully called " thinking " ... even if

> it is very different from what people ordinarily call

> thinking.

>

> As I said, solving problems entails thinking.

> What if you lose your car keys? How do you find them?

> Do you ever solve any " problems " ... ?

>

> Bill

>

 

I never solve any " problems " ...

....iietsa

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart "

> <pliantheart@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Thinking that you are not the one that imagines

things.....is

> > > > separation.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thinking that separation does not exist......brings it to

> > > > existence.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Thinking is......itself separation.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > (Era......this one's for you)

> > > > >

> > > > > toombaru

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > I never think

> > > > ...iietsa

> > > >

> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > > >

> > > > but thinking happens...

> > > >

> > > > thinking is not a " doing " by a somebody...

> > > >

> > > > but if the car keys get lost there is

> > > > some thinking going on to find them.

> > > >

> > > > " inner dialog " and thinking are not the same.

> > > >

> > > > there can be an end to " inner dialog " ...

> > > >

> > > > but there is still thinking...

> > > >

> > > > there is still problem solving...

> > > >

> > > > thinking can be silent, " in the dark " as it were...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Bill

> > > >

> > > it seems that you are emphasizing thought and its movement in

> time

> > > created by itself...I emphasize no thing...

> > > ...iietsa

> >

> > if that is what seems to you... then you have got it wrong.

> >

> > I in no way emphasize thought.

> >

> > I said that thinking happens, and that there is thinking

> > that is not characterized by thought.

> >

> > So absurd! You say I am emphasizing thought and I didn't

> > even use the word " thought " !

> >

> > What do you do for a living? Do you have to work?

> > Do you ever have to solve problems?

> > Solving problems involves thinking by definition.

> >

> > But that thinking does not need to entail " inner dialog "

> > or " thought chains " . The solving of a problem can be

> > in effect " dreamed " . It is a deep, mysterious process.

> > But it is still rightfully called " thinking " ... even if

> > it is very different from what people ordinarily call

> > thinking.

> >

> > As I said, solving problems entails thinking.

> > What if you lose your car keys? How do you find them?

> > Do you ever solve any " problems " ... ?

> >

> > Bill

> >

>

> I never solve any " problems " ...

> ...iietsa

>

 

So explain that a little more.

Do you work for a living?

What do you do all day?

If you just sit staring at the wall,

walking in nature etc. then lovely,

and sure, no problem solving.

 

Do you drive?

You never answered my question as to

what you do if you lose your car keys.

 

What if something you regularly use stops working

correctly?

Do you just throw it away and get a new one?

Or do you try to figure our what is wrong with it?

 

Bill

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart "

> > <pliantheart@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Thinking that you are not the one that imagines

> things.....is

> > > > > separation.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thinking that separation does not exist......brings it to

> > > > > existence.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thinking is......itself separation.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (Era......this one's for you)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I never think

> > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > >

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > > > >

> > > > > but thinking happens...

> > > > >

> > > > > thinking is not a " doing " by a somebody...

> > > > >

> > > > > but if the car keys get lost there is

> > > > > some thinking going on to find them.

> > > > >

> > > > > " inner dialog " and thinking are not the same.

> > > > >

> > > > > there can be an end to " inner dialog " ...

> > > > >

> > > > > but there is still thinking...

> > > > >

> > > > > there is still problem solving...

> > > > >

> > > > > thinking can be silent, " in the dark " as it were...

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Bill

> > > > >

> > > > it seems that you are emphasizing thought and its movement in

> > time

> > > > created by itself...I emphasize no thing...

> > > > ...iietsa

> > >

> > > if that is what seems to you... then you have got it wrong.

> > >

> > > I in no way emphasize thought.

> > >

> > > I said that thinking happens, and that there is thinking

> > > that is not characterized by thought.

> > >

> > > So absurd! You say I am emphasizing thought and I didn't

> > > even use the word " thought " !

> > >

> > > What do you do for a living? Do you have to work?

> > > Do you ever have to solve problems?

> > > Solving problems involves thinking by definition.

> > >

> > > But that thinking does not need to entail " inner dialog "

> > > or " thought chains " . The solving of a problem can be

> > > in effect " dreamed " . It is a deep, mysterious process.

> > > But it is still rightfully called " thinking " ... even if

> > > it is very different from what people ordinarily call

> > > thinking.

> > >

> > > As I said, solving problems entails thinking.

> > > What if you lose your car keys? How do you find them?

> > > Do you ever solve any " problems " ... ?

> > >

> > > Bill

> > >

> >

> > I never solve any " problems " ...

> > ...iietsa

> >

>

> So explain that a little more.

> Do you work for a living?

> What do you do all day?

> If you just sit staring at the wall,

> walking in nature etc. then lovely,

> and sure, no problem solving.

>

> Do you drive?

> You never answered my question as to

> what you do if you lose your car keys.

>

> What if something you regularly use stops working

> correctly?

> Do you just throw it away and get a new one?

> Or do you try to figure our what is wrong with it?

>

> Bill

>

 

 

Here, again. The only difference between what Bill is saying and what

iietsa is saying, is emphasis. One emphasis results in Bill's prose,

the other results in iietsa's poetry. And this whole relationship,

here, is like that between Zorba and the intellectual.

 

It makes a good movie. But both characters are absolutely necessary

for there to be any narrative.

 

One is attached to attachment, the other to detachment. Both love.

 

But love, is neither.

 

~*~

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart "

<pliantheart@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart "

> > > <pliantheart@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thinking that you are not the one that imagines

> > things.....is

> > > > > > separation.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thinking that separation does not exist......brings it

to

> > > > > > existence.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thinking is......itself separation.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > (Era......this one's for you)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I never think

> > > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > but thinking happens...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thinking is not a " doing " by a somebody...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > but if the car keys get lost there is

> > > > > > some thinking going on to find them.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " inner dialog " and thinking are not the same.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > there can be an end to " inner dialog " ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > but there is still thinking...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > there is still problem solving...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thinking can be silent, " in the dark " as it were...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bill

> > > > > >

> > > > > it seems that you are emphasizing thought and its movement

in

> > > time

> > > > > created by itself...I emphasize no thing...

> > > > > ...iietsa

> > > >

> > > > if that is what seems to you... then you have got it wrong.

> > > >

> > > > I in no way emphasize thought.

> > > >

> > > > I said that thinking happens, and that there is thinking

> > > > that is not characterized by thought.

> > > >

> > > > So absurd! You say I am emphasizing thought and I didn't

> > > > even use the word " thought " !

> > > >

> > > > What do you do for a living? Do you have to work?

> > > > Do you ever have to solve problems?

> > > > Solving problems involves thinking by definition.

> > > >

> > > > But that thinking does not need to entail " inner dialog "

> > > > or " thought chains " . The solving of a problem can be

> > > > in effect " dreamed " . It is a deep, mysterious process.

> > > > But it is still rightfully called " thinking " ... even if

> > > > it is very different from what people ordinarily call

> > > > thinking.

> > > >

> > > > As I said, solving problems entails thinking.

> > > > What if you lose your car keys? How do you find them?

> > > > Do you ever solve any " problems " ... ?

> > > >

> > > > Bill

> > > >

> > >

> > > I never solve any " problems " ...

> > > ...iietsa

> > >

> >

> > So explain that a little more.

> > Do you work for a living?

> > What do you do all day?

> > If you just sit staring at the wall,

> > walking in nature etc. then lovely,

> > and sure, no problem solving.

> >

> > Do you drive?

> > You never answered my question as to

> > what you do if you lose your car keys.

> >

> > What if something you regularly use stops working

> > correctly?

> > Do you just throw it away and get a new one?

> > Or do you try to figure our what is wrong with it?

> >

> > Bill

> >

>

>

> Here, again. The only difference between what Bill is saying and

what

> iietsa is saying, is emphasis. One emphasis results in Bill's

prose,

> the other results in iietsa's poetry. And this whole relationship,

> here, is like that between Zorba and the intellectual.

>

> It makes a good movie. But both characters are absolutely necessary

> for there to be any narrative.

>

> One is attached to attachment, the other to detachment. Both love.

>

> But love, is neither.

>

> ~*~

 

 

there is only one relationship existing......

 

the one of the dream-bubble....to the real Self.....

 

if you would be....this your " love " .....

 

then there would be no " others " ....which are in relationship to

each.....

 

your attachment to this your " love " ......is like the attachment to

the dream you had last night.....

 

wake up

 

Marc

 

 

 

>

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart "

> > <pliantheart@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Thinking that you are not the one that imagines

> things.....is

> > > > > separation.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thinking that separation does not exist......brings it to

> > > > > existence.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thinking is......itself separation.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (Era......this one's for you)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I never think

> > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > >

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > > > >

> > > > > but thinking happens...

> > > > >

> > > > > thinking is not a " doing " by a somebody...

> > > > >

> > > > > but if the car keys get lost there is

> > > > > some thinking going on to find them.

> > > > >

> > > > > " inner dialog " and thinking are not the same.

> > > > >

> > > > > there can be an end to " inner dialog " ...

> > > > >

> > > > > but there is still thinking...

> > > > >

> > > > > there is still problem solving...

> > > > >

> > > > > thinking can be silent, " in the dark " as it were...

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Bill

> > > > >

> > > > it seems that you are emphasizing thought and its movement in

> > time

> > > > created by itself...I emphasize no thing...

> > > > ...iietsa

> > >

> > > if that is what seems to you... then you have got it wrong.

> > >

> > > I in no way emphasize thought.

> > >

> > > I said that thinking happens, and that there is thinking

> > > that is not characterized by thought.

> > >

> > > So absurd! You say I am emphasizing thought and I didn't

> > > even use the word " thought " !

> > >

> > > What do you do for a living? Do you have to work?

> > > Do you ever have to solve problems?

> > > Solving problems involves thinking by definition.

> > >

> > > But that thinking does not need to entail " inner dialog "

> > > or " thought chains " . The solving of a problem can be

> > > in effect " dreamed " . It is a deep, mysterious process.

> > > But it is still rightfully called " thinking " ... even if

> > > it is very different from what people ordinarily call

> > > thinking.

> > >

> > > As I said, solving problems entails thinking.

> > > What if you lose your car keys? How do you find them?

> > > Do you ever solve any " problems " ... ?

> > >

> > > Bill

> > >

> >

> > I never solve any " problems " ...

> > ...iietsa

> >

>

> So explain that a little more.

> Do you work for a living?

> What do you do all day?

> If you just sit staring at the wall,

> walking in nature etc. then lovely,

> and sure, no problem solving.

>

> Do you drive?

> You never answered my question as to

> what you do if you lose your car keys.

>

> What if something you regularly use stops working

> correctly?

> Do you just throw it away and get a new one?

> Or do you try to figure our what is wrong with it?

>

> Bill

 

 

Hey.....now I've got it.....this is the answer to: " whats the purpose

in fighting with words " ..........I just knew if this exchange kept

up, all would become 'clear'......Mu!

 

.........bob

 

p.s.I've wondered what some people do all day on these lists myself.

Good Question. A+ for thoughtful inquiry here.

 

(bn)

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart "

<pliantheart@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Thinking that you are not the one that imagines things.....is

> > > separation.

> > > >

> > > > Thinking that separation does not exist......brings it to

> > > existence.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thinking is......itself separation.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > (Era......this one's for you)

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > > >

> > >

> > > I never think

> > > ...iietsa

> > >

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >

> > > but thinking happens...

> > >

> > > thinking is not a " doing " by a somebody...

> > >

> > > but if the car keys get lost there is

> > > some thinking going on to find them.

> > >

> > > " inner dialog " and thinking are not the same.

> > >

> > > there can be an end to " inner dialog " ...

> > >

> > > but there is still thinking...

> > >

> > > there is still problem solving...

> > >

> > > thinking can be silent, " in the dark " as it were...

> > >

> > >

> > > Bill

> > >

> > it seems that you are emphasizing thought and its movement in

time

> > created by itself...I emphasize no thing...

> > ...iietsa

> >

>

> Yes, the difference between freedom and bondage, if there is such a

> thing, is in the EMPHASIS. This is what all this is all about,

> emphasis. But Bill can Also be " right, " since there is also such a

> thing as over emphasis.

>

> Still, iietsa's poetry, and it is absolutely poetry, is beautiful.

>

> Bill's prose, is too. But whereas prose puts the accent there,

poetry

> puts it here.

>

> ~*~

> Sky

> (is not bob)

>

 

 

 

The most beautiful poem in the world is " YOU "

a work of art, shades of humanity, hues of God,

tints and glints of

.....a heart that carries the world inside,

.....a mind that floats in the deepest space of all stars,

 

and if we should meet, one poem to another,

how shall we speak???

 

what shall we say?

what would need to be said?

 

but a tear from the grateful dead.

 

 

Anna

 

 

:-) (actually a smile and hug would do fine.)