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--- pliantheart <pliantheart a écrit :

 

> Nisargadatta , " iietsa "

> <iietsa wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart "

> <pliantheart@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa "

> <iietsa@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > if you are walking in the jungle...

> > > > a wooden stick will not be of much help...

> > > > there is a million wooden-things....and

> whatever piece of wood

> > you

> > > > stick with or look for or you name it....it

> will only keep you

> > in

> > > > the jungle....

> > > > as long as there is the ego being interrested

> in any part of the

> > > > jungle (playing with words in any style...)

> > > > such as trying to hard to express the

> nameless...

> > > > trying to hard to express the uselessness of

> trying.....

> > > > trying...trying...doing...interfering...being

> involved in the

> > > jungle

> > > > somehow....

> > > > ALL WORDS ARE THE JUNGLE

> > > > and to break out so to speak

> > > > you can not make use of, or be dependent on

> anything junglish...

> > > >

> > > > leave the jungle alone.......and be who you

> are (this is not

> > even a

> > > > choice)

> > > > if you want to make a choice, then you are in

> the jungle ...

> > > > and there is a million of wooden things to

> like and dislike...

> > > >

> > > > there is really nothing to say...

> > > > ...unless you are interrested in the jungle...

> > > > and if you are, the jungle is full of books

> and films and you

> > name

> > > it

> > > > ...

> > > > all this jada jada....and there is really

> nothing to say....

> > > > all those words...

> > > > why do we play this, and take ourselves to be

> jungle-jims...

> > > > a jungle-jim....what is it really...

> > > > ...iietsa

> > > >

> > >

> > > words can be an expression of intent

> > > to define, to designate what is real.

> > >

> > > such words are as you say.

> > >

> > > but words can be simply energy forms,

> > > like breath

> > > a glance

> > > a sigh

> > >

> > > words can be extrusions of being

> > > forged in the hot moment

> > > of livingness

> > > emanating

> > >

> > >

> > > what you have written,

> > > is it words that try to limit

> > > and define

> > > what words can be?

> > ..................words can be nothing more than

> what you make

> > them........make them wholy and you can

> follow.....make them

> > nothing....and you dont need them....words are

> mind-and you are not

> > mind...unless you are selfish.......iietsa

> > > and what you have written,

> > > is it aimed at invalidating

> > > what others have written

> > > or may write?

> > ....................it is not trying to change

> anything...its a

> > mirror...look closely and youll see there is

> nothing....deny

> > transparancy and there is a whole lot of

> importancy going on

> > everywhere in words..............iietsa

> > > why shoot arrows of words

> > > to bring other words down

> > > when words can be seeds

> > > for blossoming?

> > ...............words are not arrows unless you

> make them arrows....

> > I shoot nothing at nobody.....those are just

> words-please dont take

> > them to be personal arrows....and words can not be

> seeds of

> > blossoming.....at the most they can be a good sign

> pointint out what

> > is not blossoming.....iietsa

> >

>

> re:

> " and words can not be seeds of blossoming..... "

>

> anything can be a seed of blossoming.

>

> you are treating words as a special class of

> phenomena. words and the flight of birds,

> the sound of thunder... are all just phenomena.

>

> if there is any problem with words, it is in

> seeing words as separate from life rather than

> just a part of life.

>

> Bill

......................................................

the world :orange

 

and then its taste color fragrance texture,

stickiness, roundness etc...

you call that the same thing?

One is a label, the other one is the real stuff that

you can experience.

you can press the orange but how can you ever express

it....

 

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