Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " mats.aberg " <hyl894t@> wrote: > > > > > > > When all is " canceled " , what is left? > > > > > > To cancel " cancelling " ... > > > > > > > > > > > ........To see what concepts really are. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > Nothing can see itself. > > Toombaru > In the thought stream.........something unspeakable opens its eyes...........stands up.............and looks around.......smiles....and then reclines back into the flowingness............ toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2006 If spirituality is used as a tool to avoid and escape than it can become an addiction and seen as ugly... Stuart " Johan " <yohansky wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > Spirituality is the last attempt > > > > ... to cover our emptiness. > > > > Some people call spirituality an ugly invention, I tend to agree. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " stuartkfmn " <stuartkfmn wrote: > > If spirituality is used as a tool to avoid and escape than it can > become an addiction and seen as ugly... > > Stuart By whom? There is no entity separate from its beliefs. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > > <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > > > <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Spirituality is the last attempt > > > > > > > > ... to cover our emptiness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > " i am " is the first attempt > > > > > > ... to cover our emptiness. > > > > > > > an attempt by whom? > > > > > by me. then the " cover up " is already in place before the attempt has begun! if the " I " is required for the attempt " I am " , then " I am " is required for the attempt " I am " but there can be " am " with no " I " and in such pure beingness as " am " ... no cover-up this is because pure " am-ness " has no need... it simply is Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " mats.aberg " <hyl894t@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > When all is " canceled " , what is left? > > > > > > > > To cancel " cancelling " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ........To see what concepts really are. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > Nothing can see itself. > > > > Toombaru > In the thought stream.........something unspeakable opens its > eyes...........stands up.............and looks > around.......smiles....and then reclines back into the > flowingness............ > > > toombaru > the flowingness smiles and sends a wave of luminescence throughout thus shines the brightness thus shines the fullness thus shines the depth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <illusyn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > > > <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > > > > <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Spirituality is the last attempt > > > > > > > > > > ... to cover our emptiness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " i am " is the first attempt > > > > > > > > ... to cover our emptiness. > > > > > > > > > > an attempt by whom? > > > > > > > > > by me. > > then the " cover up " is already in place > before the attempt has begun! > > if the " I " is required for the attempt > " I am " , then " I am " is required for > the attempt " I am " > > but there can be " am " with no " I " > > and in such pure beingness as " am " ... > > no cover-up > > this is because pure " am-ness " has no need... > > it simply is > It never was. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " stuartkfmn " <stuartkfmn wrote: > > If spirituality is used as a tool to avoid and escape than it can > become an addiction and seen as ugly... > > Stuart Sure. And so can all kinds of things. Seeing things as ugly can also become an addiction. ;-) -- Dan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " stuartkfmn " <stuartkfmn@> wrote: > > > > If spirituality is used as a tool to avoid and escape than it can > > become an addiction and seen as ugly... > > > > Stuart > > > > By whom? > > There is no entity separate from its beliefs. > > > toombaru There doesn't have to be an entity doing it, in order for an attempt to escape to occur, or for addiction to occur. The intellectual idea that there is no entity to do anything doesn't really amount to very much, and can itself be addictive. -- Dan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > > <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > > > > <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > > > > > <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Spirituality is the last attempt > > > > > > > > > > > > ... to cover our emptiness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " i am " is the first attempt > > > > > > > > > > ... to cover our emptiness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > an attempt by whom? > > > > > > > > > > > > > by me. > > > > then the " cover up " is already in place > > before the attempt has begun! > > > > if the " I " is required for the attempt > > " I am " , then " I am " is required for > > the attempt " I am " > > > > but there can be " am " with no " I " > > > > and in such pure beingness as " am " ... > > > > no cover-up > > > > this is because pure " am-ness " has no need... > > > > it simply is > > > > > > It never was. > > > > toombaru > " was " never *is* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " stuartkfmn " <stuartkfmn@> wrote: > > > > If spirituality is used as a tool to avoid and escape than it can > > become an addiction and seen as ugly... > > > > Stuart > > Sure. And so can all kinds of things. Seeing things as ugly can also > become an addiction. ;-) > > -- Dan Ha! Yes... cynicism is one of the strongest of addictions and it rots the brain! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " stuartkfmn " <stuartkfmn@> wrote: > > > > > > If spirituality is used as a tool to avoid and escape than it can > > > become an addiction and seen as ugly... > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > By whom? > > > > There is no entity separate from its beliefs. > > > > > > toombaru > > There doesn't have to be an entity doing it, in order for an attempt > to escape to occur, or for addiction to occur. The 'entity' is nothing other then the attempt to escape. > > The intellectual idea that there is no entity to do anything doesn't > really amount to very much, and can itself be addictive. To whom......The 'entity' is the addiction. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " stuartkfmn " <stuartkfmn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > If spirituality is used as a tool to avoid and escape than it can > > > > become an addiction and seen as ugly... > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > By whom? > > > > > > There is no entity separate from its beliefs. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > There doesn't have to be an entity doing it, in order for an attempt > > to escape to occur, or for addiction to occur. > > > The 'entity' is nothing other then the attempt to escape. > > > > > > > The intellectual idea that there is no entity to do anything doesn't > > really amount to very much, and can itself be addictive. > > > > > To whom......The 'entity' is the addiction. > addiction pattern can be seen as simply programming... postulation of an " entity " that is so programmed is superfluous. just patterns in brain chemicals and wiring... that the programming is there and is continually going on cannot be doubted. that there is an entity so programmed is a superposition that is arbitrary... and unnecessary Occam's Razor slices it off Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <illusyn wrote: > > Ha! > Yes... > cynicism is one of the strongest of addictions > > and it rots the brain! The brain centers that register appreciation and awe can atrophy from disuse if all energy is diverted into cynicism. The brain works best with an integrated balance of all centers, so some cynicism in the right context can be useful. Balance the centers ... centerlessly ... ;-) -- D. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2006 " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " stuartkfmn " <stuartkfmn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > If spirituality is used as a tool to avoid and escape than it can > > > > become an addiction and seen as ugly... > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > By whom? > > > > > > There is no entity separate from its beliefs. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > There doesn't have to be an entity doing it, in order for an attempt > > to escape to occur, or for addiction to occur. > > > The 'entity' is nothing other then the attempt to escape. I agree, I am only what I am fixated on. > > > > > > > The intellectual idea that there is no entity to do anything doesn't > > really amount to very much, and can itself be addictive. > > > > > To whom......The 'entity' is the addiction. Yes Stu > > > > toombaru > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " stuartkfmn " <stuartkfmn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > If spirituality is used as a tool to avoid and escape than it can > > > > become an addiction and seen as ugly... > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > By whom? > > > > > > There is no entity separate from its beliefs. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > There doesn't have to be an entity doing it, in order for an attempt > > to escape to occur, or for addiction to occur. > > > The 'entity' is nothing other then the attempt to escape. You make definitive statements about what is so -- but they are inconsistent with each other. You've said there is no entity, but you say above the entity is its belief, and you say now the entity is the attempt to escape. If there is no entity, then there is no entity which is its belief, nor an entity which is the attempt to escape. So, a conversation about this topic won't go anywhere, because contradictory assertions will be offered, as if there is a logical connection, which isn't there. Which is fine. Let's just acknowledge upfront we're not establishing anything whatsoever by speaking with each other, and we can make definitive statements, and then make contradictory definitive statements, and go back and forth as if something is being said -- no problem ;-) > > The intellectual idea that there is no entity to do anything doesn't > > really amount to very much, and can itself be addictive. > > > > > To whom......The 'entity' is the addiction. Your responses get circular, it seemeth to moi. If you've already said there is no entity, but you've said that the entity is the activity of escape, then I suppose one logical-sounding response that fits with your ideas would be ... the " entity " is the addiction to the activity of escape which is the entity, which doesn't exist. ;-) -- Dan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2006 " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " stuartkfmn " <stuartkfmn@> wrote: > > > > > > If spirituality is used as a tool to avoid and escape than it can > > > become an addiction and seen as ugly... > > > > > > Stuart > > > > Sure. And so can all kinds of things. Seeing things as ugly can also > > become an addiction. ;-) > > > > -- Dan > > > > > To whom? > > The 'entity' is nothing other then its addictions. > I agree, what we won't let go of is who we are. Stu > > toombaru > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " mats.aberg " <hyl894t@> wrote: > > > When all is " canceled " , what is left? > > To cancel " cancelling " ... > And then, when cancelling is cancelled, then what? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " mats.aberg " <hyl894t@> wrote: > > > > > > > When all is " canceled " , what is left? > > > > > > To cancel " cancelling " ... > > > > > > > > > > > ........To see what concepts really are. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > Nothing can see itself. > > Toombaru > Makes me wonder, can God? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " stuartkfmn " <stuartkfmn@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > If spirituality is used as a tool to avoid and escape than it can > > > > > become an addiction and seen as ugly... > > > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By whom? > > > > > > > > There is no entity separate from its beliefs. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > There doesn't have to be an entity doing it, in order for an attempt > > > to escape to occur, or for addiction to occur. > > > > > > The 'entity' is nothing other then the attempt to escape. > > You make definitive statements about what is so -- but they are > inconsistent with each other. > > You've said there is no entity, but you say above the entity is its > belief, and you say now the entity is the attempt to escape. > > If there is no entity, then there is no entity which is its belief, > nor an entity which is the attempt to escape. > > So, a conversation about this topic won't go anywhere, because > contradictory assertions will be offered, as if there is a logical > connection, which isn't there. > > Which is fine. > > Let's just acknowledge upfront we're not establishing anything > whatsoever by speaking with each other, and we can make definitive > statements, and then make contradictory definitive statements, and > go back and forth as if something is being said -- no problem ;-) > > > > The intellectual idea that there is no entity to do anything doesn't > > > really amount to very much, and can itself be addictive. > > > > > > > > > > To whom......The 'entity' is the addiction. > > Your responses get circular, it seemeth to moi. > > If you've already said there is no entity, but you've said that the > entity is the activity of escape, then I suppose one logical-sounding > response that fits with your ideas would be ... > > the " entity " is the addiction to the activity of escape which is the > entity, which doesn't exist. > > > ;-) > > -- Dan > In a movie.....are there people on the screen? toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " stuartkfmn " <stuartkfmn@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > If spirituality is used as a tool to avoid and escape than it can > > > > > become an addiction and seen as ugly... > > > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By whom? > > > > > > > > There is no entity separate from its beliefs. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > There doesn't have to be an entity doing it, in order for an attempt > > > to escape to occur, or for addiction to occur. > > > > > > The 'entity' is nothing other then the attempt to escape. > > You make definitive statements about what is so -- but they are > inconsistent with each other. > > You've said there is no entity, but you say above the entity is its > belief, and you say now the entity is the attempt to escape. > > If there is no entity, then there is no entity which is its belief, > nor an entity which is the attempt to escape. > > So, a conversation about this topic won't go anywhere, because > contradictory assertions will be offered, as if there is a logical > connection, which isn't there. > > Which is fine. > > Let's just acknowledge upfront we're not establishing anything > whatsoever by speaking with each other, Did you ever believe that there were actually two people talking here? toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " stuartkfmn " <stuartkfmn@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > If spirituality is used as a tool to avoid and escape than > it can > > > > > > become an addiction and seen as ugly... > > > > > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By whom? > > > > > > > > > > There is no entity separate from its beliefs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > There doesn't have to be an entity doing it, in order for an attempt > > > > to escape to occur, or for addiction to occur. > > > > > > > > > The 'entity' is nothing other then the attempt to escape. > > > > You make definitive statements about what is so -- but they are > > inconsistent with each other. > > > > You've said there is no entity, but you say above the entity is its > > belief, and you say now the entity is the attempt to escape. > > > > If there is no entity, then there is no entity which is its belief, > > nor an entity which is the attempt to escape. > > > > So, a conversation about this topic won't go anywhere, because > > contradictory assertions will be offered, as if there is a logical > > connection, which isn't there. > > > > Which is fine. > > > > Let's just acknowledge upfront we're not establishing anything > > whatsoever by speaking with each other, and we can make definitive > > statements, and then make contradictory definitive statements, and > > go back and forth as if something is being said -- no problem ;-) > > > > > > The intellectual idea that there is no entity to do anything doesn't > > > > really amount to very much, and can itself be addictive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whom......The 'entity' is the addiction. > > > > Your responses get circular, it seemeth to moi. > > > > If you've already said there is no entity, but you've said that the > > entity is the activity of escape, then I suppose one logical- sounding > > response that fits with your ideas would be ... > > > > the " entity " is the addiction to the activity of escape which is the > > entity, which doesn't exist. > > > > > > ;-) > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > In a movie.....are there people on the screen? > > > > toombaru there is no movie. never was. who could watch such a thing. and what screen? .........bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " mats.aberg " <hyl894t wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " mats.aberg " <hyl894t@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > When all is " canceled " , what is left? > > > > > > > > To cancel " cancelling " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ........To see what concepts really are. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > Nothing can see itself. > > > > Toombaru > > > > Makes me wonder, can God? > ...............I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this but...................................................... There is no God. He's just another post-it. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " stuartkfmn " > <stuartkfmn@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If spirituality is used as a tool to avoid and escape than > > it can > > > > > > > become an addiction and seen as ugly... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By whom? > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no entity separate from its beliefs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > There doesn't have to be an entity doing it, in order for an > attempt > > > > > to escape to occur, or for addiction to occur. > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'entity' is nothing other then the attempt to escape. > > > > > > You make definitive statements about what is so -- but they are > > > inconsistent with each other. > > > > > > You've said there is no entity, but you say above the entity is > its > > > belief, and you say now the entity is the attempt to escape. > > > > > > If there is no entity, then there is no entity which is its > belief, > > > nor an entity which is the attempt to escape. > > > > > > So, a conversation about this topic won't go anywhere, because > > > contradictory assertions will be offered, as if there is a logical > > > connection, which isn't there. > > > > > > Which is fine. > > > > > > Let's just acknowledge upfront we're not establishing anything > > > whatsoever by speaking with each other, and we can make definitive > > > statements, and then make contradictory definitive statements, and > > > go back and forth as if something is being said -- no problem ;-) > > > > > > > > The intellectual idea that there is no entity to do anything > doesn't > > > > > really amount to very much, and can itself be addictive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whom......The 'entity' is the addiction. > > > > > > Your responses get circular, it seemeth to moi. > > > > > > If you've already said there is no entity, but you've said that > the > > > entity is the activity of escape, then I suppose one logical- > sounding > > > response that fits with your ideas would be ... > > > > > > the " entity " is the addiction to the activity of escape which is > the > > > entity, which doesn't exist. > > > > > > > > > ;-) > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > In a movie.....are there people on the screen? > > > > > > > > toombaru > > there is no movie. never was. who could watch such a thing. and what > screen? > > .........bob > Mind is the screen...thought is the film.........I am the light. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , " mats.aberg " <hyl894t wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " mats.aberg " <hyl894t@> wrote: > > > > > When all is " canceled " , what is left? > > > > To cancel " cancelling " ... > > > And then, when cancelling is cancelled, then what? Then, everything. And, nothing. And day to day life. Simultaneously, with no contradiction, not depending on words, ideas, or memory for meaning. -- D. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " mats.aberg " <hyl894t@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " mats.aberg " <hyl894t@> wrote: > > > > > > > When all is " canceled " , what is left? > > > > > > To cancel " cancelling " ... > > > > > And then, when cancelling is cancelled, then what? > > Then, everything. > > And, nothing. > > And day to day life. > > Simultaneously, with no contradiction, not depending on words, ideas, > or memory for meaning. > > -- D. > Is this how you live Dan? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
