Guest guest Posted April 17, 2006 Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 Question: What is my body? L.E: The entire universe is your body and you need not be afraid of it. You may say you have two bodies. the personal and the universal. The personal comes and goes, the universal is always with you. You are so blinded by what is persoanl, that you do not see the universal. Eventually with effort, all distinctions between the personal and the universal are not more. Larry Epston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2006 Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > Question: What is my body? > > L.E: The entire universe is your body and you need not be afraid of it. You > may say you have two bodies. the personal and the universal. The personal > comes and goes, the universal is always with you. You are so blinded by what is > persoanl, that you do not see the universal. Eventually with effort, all > distinctions between the personal and the universal are not more. > > Larry Epston > > You continue to put your name to what is not yours....you dumbass. .....bob > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > Question: What is my body? > > L.E: The entire universe is your body and you need not be afraid of it. You > may say you have two bodies. the personal and the universal. The personal > comes and goes, the universal is always with you. You are so blinded by what is > persoanl, that you do not see the universal. Eventually with effort, all > distinctions between the personal and the universal are not more. > > Larry Epston *********** Maybe you should see an optometrist, Larry...or a metaphysician. Silver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Larry, give it up. You're the one who needs to open his eyes. >>>Nobody here appreciates you telling them that they're blind. >How >>>does it feel to be told that you're the blind one? Everybody >sees >>>it but you. >>> >>>Silver L.E: Remember the blind monk in the video series Kung Fu. He was one of the boy's best teachers when he was in the monastery. Even a blind man can know the truth of life. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 In a message dated 4/18/2006 3:33:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dennis_travis33 writes: > the one " who " think he/she is Self.... > is like the drop in the ocean....telling to " other " drops....that > he/she is the ocean > > L.E: I am like the drop in the ocean We are like drops in the ocean I am the ocean We are the ocean There is only the ocean Larry Epston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Nisargadatta , " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver- 1069 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > Question: What is my body? > > > > L.E: The entire universe is your body and you need not be afraid > of it. You > > may say you have two bodies. the personal and the universal. The > personal > > comes and goes, the universal is always with you. You are so > blinded by what is > > persoanl, that you do not see the universal. Eventually with > effort, all > > distinctions between the personal and the universal are not more. > > > > Larry Epston > *********** > Maybe you should see an optometrist, Larry...or a metaphysician. > > Silver the body of Larry is the nothingness of an " entire universe " ?..... poor Larry.... Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 In a message dated 4/18/2006 6:14:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dennis_travis33 writes: > Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > > >In a message dated 4/18/2006 3:33:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > >dennis_travis33 writes: > > > >>the one " who " think he/she is Self.... > >>is like the drop in the ocean....telling to " other " drops....that > >>he/she is the ocean > >> > >> > > > >L.E: > > > >I am like the drop in the ocean > >We are like drops in the ocean > >I am the ocean > >We are the ocean > >There is only the ocean > > > >Larry Epston > > > > > in theorie...yes > > but that's the point Larry..... > > you can't be drop and ocean ....at same time.... > > only a fool " think " that he/she can be both....at same time > > so the one " Larry " who is writing (an teaching and ....and ) in > here.....is drop Only..... > > if you were ocean....now.....you would even have no more body > sense....... > you would even no more " know " to " whom " writing....maybe except to > yourSelf.... > > Marc > > Ps: but ok, as long you can't realy " make the difference " .... > better you brush the teeth > > L.E: You are mistaken Marc. I am simultaneously like the ocean and the drop. And so are you except I know it, and you don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 In a message dated 4/18/2006 6:29:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dennis_travis33 writes: > L.E: You are mistaken Marc. > >I am simultaneously like the ocean and the drop. > >And so are you except I know it, and you don't. > > > > > LOL > > yes....that's the drop " Larry " speaking..... > > Larry.....you know nothing still......except few theories and > concepts.....that you try hard to apply > > Marc > > L.E: The drop and the ocean are simultaneous. Both are unified. Your critical and superior attitude of mind is the barrier between knowing and not knowing reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 talking about teeth and oranges.....about His knowledge....that nobody else have...... Marc L.E: I claim no exclusive rights. You have it just as I and everyone and everything has. But you won't accept it probably because of your self-hatred, or self-negativity, or that you think you don't deserve it, or something else that keeps you outside the door of truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver- > 1069@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > > Question: What is my body? > > > > > > L.E: The entire universe is your body and you need not be afraid > > of it. You > > > may say you have two bodies. the personal and the universal. The > > personal > > > comes and goes, the universal is always with you. You are so > > blinded by what is > > > persoanl, that you do not see the universal. Eventually with > > effort, all > > > distinctions between the personal and the universal are not more. > > > > > > Larry Epston > > *********** > > Maybe you should see an optometrist, Larry...or a metaphysician. > > > > Silver > > > the body of Larry is the nothingness of an " entire universe " ?..... > > poor Larry.... > > Marc ********** A person of vision simply has compassion for the blind man who thinks he can show others how to see. One who can see does not seek the guidance of a blind man. Nor would a blind man, come to think of it. Larry, give it up. You're the one who needs to open his eyes. Nobody here appreciates you telling them that they're blind. How does it feel to be told that you're the blind one? Everybody sees it but you. Silver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Nisargadatta , " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver- 1069 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver- > > 1069@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Question: What is my body? > > > > > > > > L.E: The entire universe is your body and you need not be > afraid > > > of it. You > > > > may say you have two bodies. the personal and the universal. > The > > > personal > > > > comes and goes, the universal is always with you. You are so > > > blinded by what is > > > > persoanl, that you do not see the universal. Eventually with > > > effort, all > > > > distinctions between the personal and the universal are not > more. > > > > > > > > Larry Epston > > > *********** > > > Maybe you should see an optometrist, Larry...or a metaphysician. > > > > > > Silver > > > > > > the body of Larry is the nothingness of an " entire universe " ?..... > > > > poor Larry.... > > > > Marc > ********** > A person of vision simply has compassion for the blind man who > thinks he can show others how to see. One who can see does not seek > the guidance of a blind man. Nor would a blind man, come to think > of it. > > Larry, give it up. You're the one who needs to open his eyes. > Nobody here appreciates you telling them that they're blind. How > does it feel to be told that you're the blind one? Everybody sees > it but you. > > Silver a blind can't lead a blind..... i'm wondering so.... " who " could lead here.....someone.... i mean....leading to truth......and not to some nice and loving theorie....and half baked concepts Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 In a message dated 4/18/2006 7:01:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dennis_travis33 writes: > >talking about teeth and oranges.....about His knowledge....that > >nobody else have...... > > > >Marc > > > >L.E: I claim no exclusive rights. You have it just as I and > everyone and > >everything has. But you won't accept it probably because of your > self-hatred, or > >self-negativity, or that you think you don't deserve it, or > something else > >that keeps you outside the door of truth. > > > > > > > ah.....you claim no exclusive right..... > what a great step.... > > congratulation Larry! > > Marc > > L.E: Your sarcasm is unwanted and unwarranted. Undeserved. You are mocking and critical which is your attitude and limitation. You are stuck with it until you give it up and melt into oneness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver- > 1069@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver- > > > 1069@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Question: What is my body? > > > > > > > > > > L.E: The entire universe is your body and you need not be > > afraid > > > > of it. You > > > > > may say you have two bodies. the personal and the universal. > > The > > > > personal > > > > > comes and goes, the universal is always with you. You are so > > > > blinded by what is > > > > > persoanl, that you do not see the universal. Eventually with > > > > effort, all > > > > > distinctions between the personal and the universal are not > > more. > > > > > > > > > > Larry Epston > > > > *********** > > > > Maybe you should see an optometrist, Larry...or a metaphysician. > > > > > > > > Silver > > > > > > > > > the body of Larry is the nothingness of an " entire universe " ?..... > > > > > > poor Larry.... > > > > > > Marc > > ********** > > A person of vision simply has compassion for the blind man who > > thinks he can show others how to see. One who can see does not > seek > > the guidance of a blind man. Nor would a blind man, come to think > > of it. > > > > Larry, give it up. You're the one who needs to open his eyes. > > Nobody here appreciates you telling them that they're blind. How > > does it feel to be told that you're the blind one? Everybody sees > > it but you. > > > > Silver > > > a blind can't lead a blind..... > > i'm wondering so.... " who " could lead here.....someone.... > i mean....leading to truth......and not to some nice and loving > theorie....and half baked concepts > > Marc Ps: Self is always leading to.....(one)Self what is Self?.... there is nothing but Self the one " who " can't accept the truth of Self.... is like the blind " who " don't accept the help of anybody the one " who " think he/she is Self.... is like the drop in the ocean....telling to " other " drops....that he/she is the ocean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Nisargadatta , " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver- 1069 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver- > > 1069@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver- > > > > 1069@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Question: What is my body? > > > > > > > > > > > > L.E: The entire universe is your body and you need not be > > > afraid > > > > > of it. You > > > > > > may say you have two bodies. the personal and the > universal. > > > The > > > > > personal > > > > > > comes and goes, the universal is always with you. You are > so > > > > > blinded by what is > > > > > > persoanl, that you do not see the universal. Eventually > with > > > > > effort, all > > > > > > distinctions between the personal and the universal are > not > > > more. > > > > > > > > > > > > Larry Epston > > > > > *********** > > > > > Maybe you should see an optometrist, Larry...or a > metaphysician. > > > > > > > > > > Silver > > > > > > > > > > > > the body of Larry is the nothingness of an " entire > universe " ?..... > > > > > > > > poor Larry.... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > ********** > > > A person of vision simply has compassion for the blind man who > > > thinks he can show others how to see. One who can see does not > > seek > > > the guidance of a blind man. Nor would a blind man, come to > think > > > of it. > > > > > > Larry, give it up. You're the one who needs to open his eyes. > > > Nobody here appreciates you telling them that they're blind. > How > > > does it feel to be told that you're the blind one? Everybody > sees > > > it but you. > > > > > > Silver > > > > > > a blind can't lead a blind..... > > > > i'm wondering so.... " who " could lead here.....someone.... > > i mean....leading to truth......and not to some nice and loving > > theorie....and half baked concepts > > > > Marc > ******** > Nobody here is seeking a guru, Marc. If I'm wrong, then tell > me: " who " ? > > Silver > > Silver you are right.....it seem that nobody is seeking a guru in here.... and it's funny that there are some people who think they are a guru....means, that they should teach " others " about truth.... Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 4/18/2006 3:33:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > dennis_travis33 writes: > > > the one " who " think he/she is Self.... > > is like the drop in the ocean....telling to " other " drops....that > > he/she is the ocean > > > > > > L.E: > > I am like the drop in the ocean > We are like drops in the ocean > I am the ocean > We are the ocean > There is only the ocean > > Larry Epston > > in theorie...yes but that's the point Larry..... you can't be drop and ocean ....at same time.... only a fool " think " that he/she can be both....at same time so the one " Larry " who is writing (an teaching and ....and ) in here.....is drop Only..... if you were ocean....now.....you would even have no more body sense....... you would even no more " know " to " whom " writing....maybe except to yourSelf.... Marc Ps: but ok, as long you can't realy " make the difference " .... better you brush the teeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 4/18/2006 6:14:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > dennis_travis33 writes: > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > >In a message dated 4/18/2006 3:33:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > > >dennis_travis33@ writes: > > > > > >>the one " who " think he/she is Self.... > > >>is like the drop in the ocean....telling to " other " drops....that > > >>he/she is the ocean > > >> > > >> > > > > > >L.E: > > > > > >I am like the drop in the ocean > > >We are like drops in the ocean > > >I am the ocean > > >We are the ocean > > >There is only the ocean > > > > > >Larry Epston > > > > > > > > in theorie...yes > > > > but that's the point Larry..... > > > > you can't be drop and ocean ....at same time.... > > > > only a fool " think " that he/she can be both....at same time > > > > so the one " Larry " who is writing (an teaching and ....and ) in > > here.....is drop Only..... > > > > if you were ocean....now.....you would even have no more body > > sense....... > > you would even no more " know " to " whom " writing....maybe except to > > yourSelf.... > > > > Marc > > > > Ps: but ok, as long you can't realy " make the difference " .... > > better you brush the teeth > > > > > L.E: You are mistaken Marc. > I am simultaneously like the ocean and the drop. > And so are you except I know it, and you don't. > > LOL yes....that's the drop " Larry " speaking..... Larry.....you know nothing still......except few theories and concepts.....that you try hard to apply Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > In a message dated 4/18/2006 6:14:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > > dennis_travis33@ writes: > > > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > > > >In a message dated 4/18/2006 3:33:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > > > >dennis_travis33@ writes: > > > > > > > >>the one " who " think he/she is Self.... > > > >>is like the drop in the ocean....telling to " other " > drops....that > > > >>he/she is the ocean > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >L.E: > > > > > > > >I am like the drop in the ocean > > > >We are like drops in the ocean > > > >I am the ocean > > > >We are the ocean > > > >There is only the ocean > > > > > > > >Larry Epston > > > > > > > > > > > in theorie...yes > > > > > > but that's the point Larry..... > > > > > > you can't be drop and ocean ....at same time.... > > > > > > only a fool " think " that he/she can be both....at same time > > > > > > so the one " Larry " who is writing (an teaching and ....and ) in > > > here.....is drop Only..... > > > > > > if you were ocean....now.....you would even have no more body > > > sense....... > > > you would even no more " know " to " whom " writing....maybe except > to > > > yourSelf.... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > Ps: but ok, as long you can't realy " make the difference " .... > > > better you brush the teeth > > > > > > > > L.E: You are mistaken Marc. > > I am simultaneously like the ocean and the drop. > > And so are you except I know it, and you don't. > > > > > LOL > > yes....that's the drop " Larry " speaking..... > > Larry.....you know nothing still......except few theories and > concepts.....that you try hard to apply > > Marc Ps: if you knew.....why don't write about this " ocean " you are dreaming to be...... instead to share all the time your ignorance with other ignorant people in here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 4/18/2006 6:29:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > dennis_travis33 writes: > > > L.E: You are mistaken Marc. > > >I am simultaneously like the ocean and the drop. > > >And so are you except I know it, and you don't. > > > > > > > > LOL > > > > yes....that's the drop " Larry " speaking..... > > > > Larry.....you know nothing still......except few theories and > > concepts.....that you try hard to apply > > > > Marc > > > > > L.E: The drop and the ocean are simultaneous. Both are unified. Your > critical and superior attitude of mind is the barrier between knowing and not knowing > reality. > > yes Larry.....how could a drop exist without ocean....and how an ocean could exist without drops.... they are " simultaneous " .....means, the ocean is the reality which always exist.......everywhere....within everything..... the drops are moving.....restless moving....... like the mind of Larry..... " who " is confused by the ocean.....by himSelf.... this Selfignorance let Larry write such wonderful posts in here..... talking about teeth and oranges.....about His knowledge....that nobody else have...... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > talking about teeth and oranges.....about His knowledge....that > nobody else have...... > > Marc > > L.E: I claim no exclusive rights. You have it just as I and everyone and > everything has. But you won't accept it probably because of your self-hatred, or > self-negativity, or that you think you don't deserve it, or something else > that keeps you outside the door of truth. > > > ah.....you claim no exclusive right..... what a great step.... congratulation Larry! Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 4/18/2006 7:01:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > dennis_travis33 writes: > > > >talking about teeth and oranges.....about His knowledge....that > > >nobody else have...... > > > > > >Marc > > > > > >L.E: I claim no exclusive rights. You have it just as I and > > everyone and > > >everything has. But you won't accept it probably because of your > > self-hatred, or > > >self-negativity, or that you think you don't deserve it, or > > something else > > >that keeps you outside the door of truth. > > > > > > > > > > > ah.....you claim no exclusive right..... > > what a great step.... > > > > congratulation Larry! > > > > Marc > > > > > L.E: Your sarcasm is unwanted and unwarranted. Undeserved. You are mocking > and critical which is your attitude and limitation. You are stuck with it > until you give it up and melt into oneness. > > LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 4/18/2006 7:01:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > dennis_travis33 writes: > > > >talking about teeth and oranges.....about His knowledge....that > > >nobody else have...... > > > > > >Marc > > > > > >L.E: I claim no exclusive rights. You have it just as I and > > everyone and > > >everything has. But you won't accept it probably because of your > > self-hatred, or > > >self-negativity, or that you think you don't deserve it, or > > something else > > >that keeps you outside the door of truth. > > > > > > > > > > > ah.....you claim no exclusive right..... > > what a great step.... > > > > congratulation Larry! > > > > Marc > > > > > L.E: Your sarcasm is unwanted and unwarranted. Undeserved. You are mocking > and critical which is your attitude and limitation. You are stuck with it > until you give it up and melt into oneness. > > " Spiritual maturity is being ready to let go everything. Giving up is a first step, but real giving-up is the insight that there's nothing to be given up, since nothing is your property. " --Sri nisargadatta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 In a message dated 4/18/2006 10:57:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, silver-1069 writes: > I don't mean physical blindness, Larry. My comment was in reference > to your judgement that we are blind to the universal. I understood > it to mean that you think we are all spiritually blind while you are > not. Did I misunderstand you? > > Silver L.E: Yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > Larry, give it up. You're the one who needs to open his eyes. > >>>Nobody here appreciates you telling them that they're blind. > >How > >>>does it feel to be told that you're the blind one? Everybody > >sees > >>>it but you. > >>> > >>>Silver > > > L.E: Remember the blind monk in the video series > Kung Fu. He was one of the boy's best teachers when he was in the monastery. > Even a blind man can know the truth of life. > > Larry ********* I don't mean physical blindness, Larry. My comment was in reference to your judgement that we are blind to the universal. I understood it to mean that you think we are all spiritually blind while you are not. Did I misunderstand you? Silver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 In a message dated 4/18/2006 6:14:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Nisargadatta writes: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:02:09 EDT epston Re: What Is My Body? Larry, give it up. You're the one who needs to open his eyes. >>>Nobody here appreciates you telling them that they're blind. >How >>>does it feel to be told that you're the blind one? Everybody >sees >>>it but you. >>> >>>Silver L.E: Remember the blind monk in the video series Kung Fu. He was one of the boy's best teachers when he was in the monastery. Even a blind man can know the truth of life. Larry Are you understanding that " blind " is a metaphor in this case and wasn't meant to be taken literally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 In a message dated 4/18/2006 3:28:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ADHHUB writes: > > > L.E: Remember the blind monk in the video series > Kung Fu. He was one of the boy's best teachers when he was in the > monastery. > Even a blind man can know the truth of life. > > Larry > > > > Are you understanding that " blind " is a metaphor in this case and wasn't > meant to be taken literally? > L.E; Yes. Do you understand that no matter what people think are your limitations you still might unerstand or know as much or more than them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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