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In a message dated 2/25/2006 2:36:13 PM Pacific Standard Time,

lastrain writes:

 

> There....right there..........You imagine a " me " ....and then a question

> emerges that seems to

> be coming from that imagination.

>

> L.E: I do not imagine a " me " I only imagine an I.

 

THERE IS NO 'ME'!

 

L.E: Then it's true that you are talking to yourself. Is that correct?

 

Go back the way you came.

 

L.E: Is that a nice way to treat a nightmare? And in this dream, you must

know which way that is. Where I came from and where I must return. Where does

the dream go when the dreamer is dreaming? Or does your dream have rules, like

ignorance of the other, or gravity, or if you deal drugs you may get arrested

and jailed?

Are you in control of your dream, or does it just go its own way?

If you control your dream are you still asleep, or awake. And if awake how

can all this be happening? If you are neither awake nor dreaming, how does

this conversation occur?

SPEAK UP!

 

Larry Epston

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , epston wrote:

>

> In a message dated 2/25/2006 2:36:13 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> lastrain writes:

>

> > There....right there..........You imagine a " me " ....and then a question

> > emerges that seems to

> > be coming from that imagination.

> >

> > L.E: I do not imagine a " me " I only imagine an I.

>

> THERE IS NO 'ME'!

>

> L.E: Then it's true that you are talking to yourself. Is that correct?

>

> Go back the way you came.

>

> L.E: Is that a nice way to treat a nightmare? And in this dream, you must

> know which way that is.

 

 

Hidden within that statement is the root belief that there is substantial

something that can

somehow alter its fate through a corrective action.

 

There is not.

 

Go on in there and see if you can find anything or anybody.

 

In truth 'you' are the very movement that is seeking to see itself...

 

If that is internalizes......there is a self-destruction that can be gradual or

as sudden as a

flash of lightening.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Where I came from and where I must return.

 

 

You art the child of a barren woman.

 

This 'I' that you refer to ....is a phantom.......an empty house...a screeching

clot of

memories.........that exists for a time within mind.....and then dissolves back

into its

natural abode.

 

 

Where does

> the dream go when the dreamer is dreaming?

 

 

 

 

 

The dreamer is the dream.

 

 

 

 

 

Or does your dream have rules, like

> ignorance of the other, or gravity, or if you deal drugs you may get arrested

> and jailed?

 

 

Within the infinite chain of causation......nothing ever happened.

 

 

> Are you in control of your dream,

 

 

I am the dream.

 

 

or does it just go its own way?

> If you control your dream are you still asleep, or awake.

 

 

There in no 'you'.

 

 

And if awake how

> can all this be happening?

 

 

That is a great mystery......of which even the greatest of sages haven't the

foggiest.

 

 

If you are neither awake nor dreaming, how does

> this conversation occur?

> SPEAK UP!

>

 

 

Like This.

 

 

toombaru

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