Guest guest Report post Posted January 30, 2006 On Jan 30, 2006, at 5:44 AM, Nisargadatta wrote: > Beliefs and Problems > > I have tried hard, but I cannot think of anything which is not a > belief. P: Yes, excellent observation! > > Since seemingly everything is belief (and no distinction between > " truth " and " belief " is possible), belief can as well be called truth. > It makes no difference. P: Yes, 'truly' so! The Pragmatic school of Philosophy defines truth as those ideas that work for you. In this sense, ideas are not judged by their veracity, but only by their consequences. As an example of an idea which consequences were very beneficial in the past, but that now, threaten doom, lets look at this Bible command: " Be fruitful, and multiply " said the Lord. 2000 years ago when the world was underpopulated and few lived past forty, this idea, was one which consequences were good for humanity. Now, that we live in an overcrowded world, with dwindling resources, pollution, and global warming, fanatical adherence to this idea will bring disastrous consequences. So we can say this idea, was true then, and false now. In an universe constantly changing there can't be permanent truths. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 30, 2006 - Pete S Nisargadatta Monday, January 30, 2006 10:30 AM Re: Beliefs Stefan On Jan 30, 2006, at 5:44 AM, Nisargadatta wrote: > Beliefs and Problems > > I have tried hard, but I cannot think of anything which is not a > belief. P: Yes, excellent observation! > > Since seemingly everything is belief (and no distinction between > " truth " and " belief " is possible), belief can as well be called truth. > It makes no difference. P: Yes, 'truly' so! The Pragmatic school of Philosophy defines truth as those ideas that work for you. In this sense, ideas are not judged by their veracity, but only by their consequences. As an example of an idea which consequences were very beneficial in the past, but that now, threaten doom, lets look at this Bible command: " Be fruitful, and multiply " said the Lord. 2000 years ago when the world was underpopulated and few lived past forty, this idea, was one which consequences were good for humanity. Now, that we live in an overcrowded world, with dwindling resources, pollution, and global warming, fanatical adherence to this idea will bring disastrous consequences. So we can say this idea, was true then, and false now. In an universe constantly changing there can't be permanent truths. Ana: There is one unmitigated truth: I Am And This Is. Everything else is thoughts about...and sciences to explain the thoughts....IMHO ;-) Did you ever consider how much land there is in the world? How much is actually occupied? In the US alone? And nature has a deft hand in population control. Pollution would be resolved with an eco-friendly lifestyle, but what would anyone GIVE UP for that? Global warming, they say there was an Eden once, perfect climate...;-) > > ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 30, 2006 Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie4@e...> wrote: >2000 years ago when the world was underpopulated and few lived >past forty... oh... you seem to believe this bullshit? well... it doesn't matter :-) Stefan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
