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Nisargadatta , Harsha wrote:

> Sri Ramana once said to Madahva, his attendant, " I am not real

Madhava! "

> Bhagavan often pointed out that if we take Ramana to be the body,

it is

> a mistake. Ramana is the Heart, the Self which is of the nature of

> consciousness, Existence, Bliss. It is the Bliss which is Self-

Knowing,

> Self-Aware and free from sorrows. It is found in One's Own Self and

not

> anywhere else. What is illusion? It must be something that stems

from

> Reality. What is individuality? It is that which arises from the

Self.

> So no need for resistance and no need to despise the mind or the

ego or

> individuality for its limitations and weaknesses. It is simply the

> nature of things. If we understand the nature of things and are

> accepting of our divinity and humanity as equally natural then we

do not

> create artificial barriers in our mind. Becoming gentle, both with

> ourselves and with others, or at least having that perspective of

> gentleness, allows us not to contend. A victory that is costly to

others

> is not a victory. Real strength always lies in good humor,

forgiveness,

> and readiness to embrace. Self is the ultimate form of nonviolence.

>

> A wave that rises high seems like it has become separate from the

ocean

> but in fact always has its foundation and home in the ocean. The

nature

> of water in the wave and ocean is the same. A wave rises high and

> appears to become separate. The fear is in the separation, in the

> individual becoming separate from the whole. Then after some time

the

> wave merges back. It is in that merging where the wave has started

to

> fall back on the ocean that the wave realizes the Truth. I am the

Ocean!

> I have always been the Ocean! Similarly, the essence of the

> individuality and the Self are the same. Mind rises from the Heart

but

> is never separate from it. It is always supported by the Heart and

the

> essence of the Heart permeates it as consciousness. Individuality

rises

> from the Self and subsides back into it. On the merging of the mind

in

> the Heart arises a Self - Knowing which has always been present as

the

> undercurrent but now manifests to itself in full and overwhelming

> force. Then the mind and the Heart become One and this Knowing

Knows It

> Self fully and completely as the Self. The One without a second.

>

>

> /join

>

>

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Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

<adithya_comming> wrote:

> Nisargadatta , Harsha wrote:

> > Sri Ramana once said to Madahva, his attendant, " I am not real

> Madhava! "

> > Bhagavan often pointed out that if we take Ramana to be the body,

> it is

> > a mistake. Ramana is the Heart, the Self which is of the nature

of

> > consciousness, Existence, Bliss. It is the Bliss which is Self-

> Knowing,

> > Self-Aware and free from sorrows. It is found in One's Own Self

and

> not

> > anywhere else. What is illusion? It must be something that stems

> from

> > Reality. What is individuality? It is that which arises from the

> Self.

> > So no need for resistance and no need to despise the mind or the

> ego or

> > individuality for its limitations and weaknesses. It is simply

the

> > nature of things. If we understand the nature of things and are

> > accepting of our divinity and humanity as equally natural then we

> do not

> > create artificial barriers in our mind. Becoming gentle, both

with

> > ourselves and with others, or at least having that perspective of

> > gentleness, allows us not to contend. A victory that is costly to

> others

> > is not a victory. Real strength always lies in good humor,

> forgiveness,

> > and readiness to embrace. Self is the ultimate form of

nonviolence.

> >

> > A wave that rises high seems like it has become separate from

the

> ocean

> > but in fact always has its foundation and home in the ocean. The

> nature

> > of water in the wave and ocean is the same. A wave rises high and

> > appears to become separate. The fear is in the separation, in the

> > individual becoming separate from the whole. Then after some time

> the

> > wave merges back. It is in that merging where the wave has

started

> to

> > fall back on the ocean that the wave realizes the Truth. I am the

> Ocean!

> > I have always been the Ocean! Similarly, the essence of the

> > individuality and the Self are the same. Mind rises from the

Heart

> but

> > is never separate from it. It is always supported by the Heart

and

> the

> > essence of the Heart permeates it as consciousness. Individuality

> rises

> > from the Self and subsides back into it. On the merging of the

mind

> in

> > the Heart arises a Self - Knowing which has always been present

as

> the

> > undercurrent but now manifests to itself in full and overwhelming

> > force. Then the mind and the Heart become One and this Knowing

> Knows It

> > Self fully and completely as the Self. The One without a second.

> >

> >

> > /join

> >

> >

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Thats really strange, Arvind,

 

On his site he is such a cheerful and friendly looking guy. If I

would be an old lady I would give all my possessions to him and could

cuddle and hug him to death or feed him all day long with chocolate

and crackers.

 

Werner

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

<adithya_comming> wrote:

> Nisargadatta , Harsha wrote:

> > Sri Ramana once said to Madahva, his attendant, " I am not real

> Madhava! "

> > Bhagavan often pointed out that if we take Ramana to be the body,

> it is

> > a mistake. Ramana is the Heart, the Self which is of the nature

of

> > consciousness, Existence, Bliss. It is the Bliss which is Self-

> Knowing,

> > Self-Aware and free from sorrows. It is found in One's Own Self

and

> not

> > anywhere else. What is illusion? It must be something that stems

> from

> > Reality. What is individuality? It is that which arises from the

> Self.

> > So no need for resistance and no need to despise the mind or the

> ego or

> > individuality for its limitations and weaknesses. It is simply

the

> > nature of things. If we understand the nature of things and are

> > accepting of our divinity and humanity as equally natural then we

> do not

> > create artificial barriers in our mind. Becoming gentle, both

with

> > ourselves and with others, or at least having that perspective of

> > gentleness, allows us not to contend. A victory that is costly to

> others

> > is not a victory. Real strength always lies in good humor,

> forgiveness,

> > and readiness to embrace. Self is the ultimate form of

nonviolence.

> >

> > A wave that rises high seems like it has become separate from

the

> ocean

> > but in fact always has its foundation and home in the ocean. The

> nature

> > of water in the wave and ocean is the same. A wave rises high and

> > appears to become separate. The fear is in the separation, in the

> > individual becoming separate from the whole. Then after some time

> the

> > wave merges back. It is in that merging where the wave has

started

> to

> > fall back on the ocean that the wave realizes the Truth. I am the

> Ocean!

> > I have always been the Ocean! Similarly, the essence of the

> > individuality and the Self are the same. Mind rises from the

Heart

> but

> > is never separate from it. It is always supported by the Heart

and

> the

> > essence of the Heart permeates it as consciousness. Individuality

> rises

> > from the Self and subsides back into it. On the merging of the

mind

> in

> > the Heart arises a Self - Knowing which has always been present

as

> the

> > undercurrent but now manifests to itself in full and overwhelming

> > force. Then the mind and the Heart become One and this Knowing

> Knows It

> > Self fully and completely as the Self. The One without a second.

> >

> >

> > /join

> >

> >

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Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...>

wrote:

> Thats really strange, Arvind,

>

> On his site he is such a cheerful and friendly looking guy. If I

> would be an old lady I would give all my possessions to him and

could

> cuddle and hug him to death or feed him all day long with chocolate

> and crackers.

>

> Werner

 

 

Hi Werner,

 

 

They say, it is very HARD to find

anything wrong with a Clever, Skillful

politician, PR, Marketing or Sales

Expert ! i. e. unless you try to look

deeply and try to analyze some subtle

clues or unless ...you get bitten !

 

 

Yes, and I do agree with you on both

the photo and 'most of the messages',

it looks almost 'too loving' to

believe. Somebody ( and something )

dipped in Sugar !

 

 

I will go as far to say that Harsha's

photo and his typical messages might

have given even Mother Teresa run for

money !

 

 

With warm regards,

Arvind.

 

 

 

PS: Now, let us wait for the EXPERT (I

do think, Harsha is an expert in PR,

presentation and maneuvering ).

 

 

 

 

 

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

> <adithya_comming> wrote:

> > Nisargadatta , Harsha wrote:

> > > Sri Ramana once said to Madahva, his attendant, " I am not real

> > Madhava! "

> > > Bhagavan often pointed out that if we take Ramana to be the

body,

> > it is

> > > a mistake. Ramana is the Heart, the Self which is of the nature

> of

> > > consciousness, Existence, Bliss. It is the Bliss which is Self-

> > Knowing,

> > > Self-Aware and free from sorrows. It is found in One's Own Self

> and

> > not

> > > anywhere else. What is illusion? It must be something that

stems

> > from

> > > Reality. What is individuality? It is that which arises from

the

> > Self.

> > > So no need for resistance and no need to despise the mind or

the

> > ego or

> > > individuality for its limitations and weaknesses. It is simply

> the

> > > nature of things. If we understand the nature of things and are

> > > accepting of our divinity and humanity as equally natural then

we

> > do not

> > > create artificial barriers in our mind. Becoming gentle, both

> with

> > > ourselves and with others, or at least having that perspective

of

> > > gentleness, allows us not to contend. A victory that is costly

to

> > others

> > > is not a victory. Real strength always lies in good humor,

> > forgiveness,

> > > and readiness to embrace. Self is the ultimate form of

> nonviolence.

> > >

> > > A wave that rises high seems like it has become separate from

> the

> > ocean

> > > but in fact always has its foundation and home in the ocean.

The

> > nature

> > > of water in the wave and ocean is the same. A wave rises high

and

> > > appears to become separate. The fear is in the separation, in

the

> > > individual becoming separate from the whole. Then after some

time

> > the

> > > wave merges back. It is in that merging where the wave has

> started

> > to

> > > fall back on the ocean that the wave realizes the Truth. I am

the

> > Ocean!

> > > I have always been the Ocean! Similarly, the essence of the

> > > individuality and the Self are the same. Mind rises from the

> Heart

> > but

> > > is never separate from it. It is always supported by the Heart

> and

> > the

> > > essence of the Heart permeates it as consciousness.

Individuality

> > rises

> > > from the Self and subsides back into it. On the merging of the

> mind

> > in

> > > the Heart arises a Self - Knowing which has always been present

> as

> > the

> > > undercurrent but now manifests to itself in full and

overwhelming

> > > force. Then the mind and the Heart become One and this Knowing

> > Knows It

> > > Self fully and completely as the Self. The One without a second.

> > >

> > >

> > > /join

> > >

> > >

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