Reversing directions

December 31, 2004

When the pointed to " Self-realization " happens there is all encompassing

silence and pure awareness without awareness or apperception. No words

can describe it. It is beyond mind and body. The mind/body is muted not

by an artificial self-contrivance of thought stopping but it is just

that way. There is no experiencer, no one is there. There is no

conceptualization yet it is not empty. Everything is as it is.

What goes on in that silence? There is no answer. It is known by

effortless experience only.

The mind/body is where it is and sensations are engaged. The mind/body

avoids cars in the street, goes to work, eats, raises children, pays

bills, posts, creates stuff, does all those things as it has done

before. Demands are made upon the mind/body by other mind/bodies and

interaction goes on as it did before.

There is no surface conceptualization, it is all done directly silently

without words. Everything is recognized as before and is plain,

ordinary, clear. A key is turned in a lock and the hands are observed as

if never seen before. The sounds in the street are all heard at once.

Things shimmer and melt. Time is absent, it is only on clocks faces and

digital screens. Nothing is important and nothing is impossible. When

action is required it is given. There is a fire burning something

inside... Old habits die away. New behavior arises...No thing is

unacceptable, no thing is foreign, no thing is stable....

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So it goes for an enlightened one. Maybe not. Imagined? Perhaps. Perhaps

not. Does it matter? Yes it does. No it does not. There is no such thing

as enlightenment and there is such a thing as enlightenment. There is no

contradiction. There is contradiction. There is no answer. There is an

answer. There is no choice. There is a choice. All these can be when

they are needed to be so. They are words, concepts and can formed and

used as needed to do whatever is required.

So the script can be rewritten? Yes or No, if it is allowed.

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People who talk about " Self-realization " are delusional.

Self-realization is fakery, a pretend state, a self-induced state of

silence. I am self-realized because I said to myself, " Hey is there any

one inside my head but me and I got no other answer. I realized my self.

I know that my mind and body are tools that I use. My Daddy taught me

that. I made my mind silent by taking concepts, placing them carefully

in the machinery of my mind and testing it out until I achieved the

desired effect. Ideas such as all-encompassing silence and pure

awareness without awareness or apperception are nonsense. I know exactly

what I am doing. People who say no words can describe this silence are

simply avoiding answering questions and to preventing others from

knowing how it was done. They is not neighborly.

The idea that making my mind silent is beyond mind and body is true

because I created it. Nobody else is in my mind, I am the only one at

home. I did it. My mind can do nothing without me. It is a stupid,

unconscious thing. It does whatever I tell it. Anyone can do this if

they just tried. You can stop thoughts if you want. You can do it well

or poorly. It is all a matter of technique, self-manipulation. I can do

anything I wish with my mind and body.

The idea that there is no experiencer is complete nonsense. I am here. I

am real as the sun that rises every morning. You can repeat that silly

mantra that there is no one home and that " you " and " I " are illusions

but let me tell you that you are making a fool out of yourself. And all

the illusion stuff that is talked about, here is the truth. You can

create anything you want. It may be an illusion because it is just words

or ideas, but if you get people to believe it becomes real. Look at

money. A dollar, a renembi, a euro dollar, is worth next to nothing but

it is what people believe it to be worth that counts and the economies

of entire countries depend on such beliefs. So what is an illusion and

what is real depends on how many people believe it. The scientists

proved that there is one human race but it doesn't matter to the rest of

the human population. They see races very clearly and telling them that

it ain't so does cut it.

The notion that " there is no conceptualization yet it is not empty, " is

mumbo jumbo. Wake up. Is everything is as it is? My God, of course. If

you are reading this, what are you doing? Reading right? What do you

type with, a keyboard right? Everything is as it is. What is so special

about a statement like that?

What goes on in that silence? Nothing that I can reckon because When I

am silent that is what I am. Zero. Any one can know this with or without

effort.

" The mind/body is where it is and sensations are engaged. " That

statement is an example of the famous passive voice and pronoun dropping

technique. This is how you get rid of " you " and " me. " Afraid of

pronouns, personal agency? It is a good way to wipe out the experiencer,

me. Nice try. But no thanks.

Don't you think that I had better avoid cars in the street, go to work,

eat, raise children and pays bills if I have to, post to this forum, if

I want, creates stuff if I want after I get my mind into that silence. I

have to live, silence or not. Silence does not change anything. I have

to live and deal with the demands made upon me whether they be personal,

impersonal or other.

Everyone has intuition so thinking about surface conceptualization or

not is nonsense. Before and after making my mind silent, changes nothing

about my knowledge of things even though after making the silence things

seem more plain, ordinary, and clear. If I want to pay attention to a

key that I turn in a lock and my hands as I do it, I can. What's the big

deal? Maybe I don't pay attention to stuff like that, but I can if I

want. Do I hear sounds in the street all at once? If I want to do so, I

can learn. Do things shimmer and melt? They do if I stare at them long

enough. Is time absent? No. When I cook a steak I watch the time. No

sense getting all spaced out and ending of with char.

There are priorities and you can call it making one thing important over

another. I does not matter. It is just words.

I believe nothing is impossible for me, if I put in the required effort.

I do what I have to do. That is always the case. As for fires burning

inside, I do not have time to be looking for that, if it is there it is

there and if not, then that it is not. I can make my mind and body do

whatever I want. They are my tools so I can make or break habits at will.

This last statement is a killer. " No thing is unacceptable, no thing is

foreign, no thing is stable. " What a load of elephant turd that is.

Someone trying to kill me, a knife in my chest, the sun rising throws

that silliness right out the window.....

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Which one of these scripts is the poster's? Neither. The poster at the

moment is a charm quark and these matters are of little concern to a

charm quark. But the quantum level what is suggested that it be written

and as it is known there is no choice in these matters whether one

chooses or does not choose.

December 31, 2004