Guest guest Report post Posted September 10, 2004 Al, Everything is now. > Kip: Prove it! This is an assumption, Al, which can or cannot have > some didactical or pedagogical value. A hypothesis for me, a thesis > for you. I can only prove what I experience, and I experience only the now. The “now” can’t be experienced, if “you” are in…so to say. Every word about it is one word too much. You cannot prove what you experience without making an object out of it and, exactly in that moment you are out. “Now” is a concept. You are experiencing a concept, that’s all. > You can have all thoughts you like, > Kip: Wrong, even physiologically! Ok, you can have all the thoughts that you have. :-) OK! > Kip: this is a conclusion based on your thesis. A philosophical > assumption or not even that. A phantasm based on a conclusion based > on a hypothesis and playing rhetorically with the phenomena we > experience as evident and or paradoxically regarding the concept of > time. It is a fact. You can only experience the now. A fact! You are experiencing a fact, but not the “now”! > The future? Only thoughts in this now. > Kip: Ditto. Everyone, perhaps even in the Kindergarten, knows that, > so to say. Intellectual understanding will get you nowhere. Ø Great! That’s exactly were I belong! J > The past? Only thoughts in this now. > Kip: False! There is a difference between the concepts past and > future in your perception. That's the reason why you are able to > negate such a difference. True. What we call the future is an extrapolation created from the past. Why from an inexistent past…because past is a concept with the same quality or dignity than the concept “now”. > Everything, _everything_ is in this now. > Kip: Are you a Guru, Al? Nothing will change if you repeat this > assumption, like a mantra, in great profusion publically. You should > know that! I am trying to convince myself not to worry about the future. You will never succeed as long as you try or fight for it. Give up! > > > There is nothing outside this now. > > Kip: and even inside! > > > See? You may say: " There is something outside this now: the future " > Then I will > simply say: " Your idea about the future is a thought in this now. > There is _only_ this now. See? " > > Kip: And then? You have learned to play with a concept chess! That's > all! See? But have I realized the timeless now? There is no “I” able to realize that! > P.S. Take a step beyond that! And tell me what do you see, Al? Beyond the now? I see the future and I see the past. Can I see all my past? No. I don't even remember what thoughts I had 30 minutes ago! Wait a while! It will remember you! J Kip Almazy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
