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DEAR FELLOW ADVAITA LOVERS.

Advaita texts say and even Nisargadatta says in his talks that " when

one has the correct knowledge jagat(waking world)disappears " What

does this mean? Jagat disapperas? does it mean you dont see the nor

hear. nor smell or it simly means that intutively you view all

happening in consciousness like objects in a mirror??? what was

maharajas views on this??.................Dattoham Giri

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maharaj said focus on " who am i? " ... he said spend all your spare

time doing that, nite & day... keep doing it... don't give up... he

said u would then become enlightened... good luck...

 

yours

 

danananda

 

p.s. it takes quite a few years for some people... so u want to get

started right away...

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " dattohamgiri "

<dattohamgiri> wrote:

> DEAR FELLOW ADVAITA LOVERS.

> Advaita texts say and even Nisargadatta says in his talks

that " when

> one has the correct knowledge jagat(waking world)disappears " What

> does this mean? Jagat disapperas? does it mean you dont see the nor

> hear. nor smell or it simly means that intutively you view all

> happening in consciousness like objects in a mirror??? what was

> maharajas views on this??.................Dattoham Giri

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>DEAR FELLOW ADVAITA LOVERS.

>Advaita texts say and even Nisargadatta says in his talks that " when

>one has the correct knowledge jagat(waking world)disappears " What

>does this mean? Jagat disapperas? does it mean you dont see the nor

>hear. nor smell or it simly means that intutively you view all

>happening in consciousness like objects in a mirror??? what was

>maharajas views on this??.................Dattoham Giri

 

Am not reading much of Nisargadatta anymore....mostly because I was getting

really confused.....somewhere along the line I discovered that Ramesh is

his disciple (and also realized) and now I read his books which are pretty

straight forward. With respect to what the sage sees vs. you and I, it's

the same input....but they understand fully that it's an illusion and they

don't get " involved " as we do. One of the best books I've read that

answers these questions (how is it for the sage v. we ordinary types) is

Ramesh's book " Confusion No More " .

 

PS. somewhere I was told that Nisargadatta spoke in his language (can't

remember exactly what it is..starts with an M) and the fellow that

translated/edited the book " I am That " was Polish and together they came up

with the book in English. Anyway, it really helped to know that was part

of my confusion PLUS...Maharaj was addressing a particular questioner...so

the response to one person might appear to be different to another

questioner because the context and the questioner was different. No wonder

I got confused...:-0 I WAS :-)

 

RL, FPI..........finite portal of the Infinite

 

 

 

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> DEAR FELLOW ADVAITA LOVERS.

> Advaita texts say and even Nisargadatta says in his talks

that " when

> one has the correct knowledge jagat(waking world)disappears " What

> does this mean? Jagat disapperas? does it mean you dont see the nor

> hear. nor smell or it simly means that intutively you view all

> happening in consciousness like objects in a mirror???

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Imagine time as extended horizontally.

Imagine the Now as extended vertically as a vastness of

all immediate particles of sense experience.

Imagine then being so compressed into that vertical

extension of Now that the horizontal extension disappears.

There is COMPLETE absorbtion in the sensata of Now.

 

Consider further that all actions of the *apparent individual*

" magically " arise for any/all occasions. In other words,

even though attention is completely absorbed into the

sensata of Now, all the normal behaviors are handled

automatically as they arise naturally.

 

Such is bliss because there is no distress about conduct,

which itself is the source of all suffering.

 

The natural state is bliss, but is covered by an illusory

suffering due to distress about conduct.

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

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Thanks for a great explanation . It needs further clarification. By right

knowledge the " apparent individual(seperate and different from nondual

consciousness) disappears once and for all or the tendency to attribute

seperate individualness due to supposed (maya or prakarti) is seen as an

existential trick and hense being does not associate with it or does not give

importance. In other words individualness is observed as one of the appearences

but being learns not to be deluded by it??????? Are you saying that even after

knowledge the particals or jagat (appearences ) arises but the only differnece

is, it is not being observed by a seperate individual but happens as a

spontaneous apperance in consciouness.meaning the apperances do not disappear

but they are not happening to anyone. They just " are " as " consciousness

is " ?????? WHAT ARE YOUR VIEWS PLEASE????

Bill Rishel <plexus wrote:

> DEAR FELLOW ADVAITA LOVERS.

> Advaita texts say and even Nisargadatta says in his talks

that " when

> one has the correct knowledge jagat(waking world)disappears " What

> does this mean? Jagat disapperas? does it mean you dont see the nor

> hear. nor smell or it simly means that intutively you view all

> happening in consciousness like objects in a mirror???

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Imagine time as extended horizontally.

Imagine the Now as extended vertically as a vastness of

all immediate particles of sense experience.

Imagine then being so compressed into that vertical

extension of Now that the horizontal extension disappears.

There is COMPLETE absorbtion in the sensata of Now.

 

Consider further that all actions of the *apparent individual*

" magically " arise for any/all occasions. In other words,

even though attention is completely absorbed into the

sensata of Now, all the normal behaviors are handled

automatically as they arise naturally.

 

Such is bliss because there is no distress about conduct,

which itself is the source of all suffering.

 

The natural state is bliss, but is covered by an illusory

suffering due to distress about conduct.

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

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> " dattohamgiri " <dattohamgiri

> <Nisargadatta >

> Tuesday, June 01, 2004 8:24 PM

> your views please!!

>

>

> > DEAR FELLOW ADVAITA LOVERS.

> > Advaita texts say and even Nisargadatta says in his talks that " when

> > one has the correct knowledge jagat(waking world)disappears " What

> > does this mean? Jagat disapperas? does it mean you dont see the nor

> > hear. nor smell or it simly means that intutively you view all

> > happening in consciousness like objects in a mirror??? what was

> > maharajas views on this??.................Dattoham Giri

 

Hi Dattoham,

 

 

 

Instead of anybody else's views, even that of Nisargadatta, why not see for

yourself.

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--- RL_FPI wrote:

>

> >

> >DEAR FELLOW ADVAITA LOVERS.

> >Advaita texts say and even Nisargadatta says in his

> talks that " when

> >one has the correct knowledge jagat(waking

> world)disappears " What

> >does this mean? Jagat disapperas? does it mean you

> dont see the nor

> >hear. nor smell or it simly means that intutively

> you view all

> >happening in consciousness like objects in a

> mirror??? what was

> >maharajas views on this??.................Dattoham

> Giri

>

> Am not reading much of Nisargadatta

> anymore....mostly because I was getting

> really confused.....somewhere along the line I

> discovered that Ramesh is

> his disciple (and also realized) and now I read his

> books which are pretty

> straight forward. With respect to what the sage

> sees vs. you and I, it's

> the same input....but they understand fully that

> it's an illusion and they

> don't get " involved " as we do. One of the best

> books I've read that

> answers these questions (how is it for the sage v.

> we ordinary types) is

> Ramesh's book " Confusion No More " .

>

> PS. somewhere I was told that Nisargadatta spoke in

> his language (can't

> remember exactly what it is..starts with an M) and

> the fellow that

> translated/edited the book " I am That " was Polish

> and together they came up

> with the book in English. Anyway, it really helped

> to know that was part

> of my confusion PLUS...Maharaj was addressing a

> particular questioner...so

> the response to one person might appear to be

> different to another

> questioner because the context and the questioner

> was different. No wonder

> I got confused...:-0 I WAS :-)

>

> RL, FPI..........finite portal of the Infinite

> Dear friend, I am just like u an ordinary human

being not enlightened or anything and that ppoint at

which u cross over from being unelightened to

enlightened also may not be so important but I feel

that it is not so much that we dont see the material

world, but its importance reduces to a ppoint where it

doesnt matter wether it exists or not Love Jacob

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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