Guest guest Report post Posted March 26, 2004 Sandeep, When you say: > > " Everything " or " allness " ,..............is once again a conceptualizing,.....once again an > > identity........and thus a hoopla of the mind. do you consider there is any " correctness " in your statement? Do you consider it to be in any way valid/true/ " right " ? How would it be different to say: > > " Everything " or " allness " ,..............is NOT a conceptualizing,.....and NOT a hoopla > > of the mind. Would you say the difference between the two statements is just that the squigglies are different? Just that they use different words? When you say: > > " Everything " or " allness " ,..............is once again a conceptualizing,.....once again an > > identity........and thus a hoopla of the mind. do you consider yourself to be *saying* anything, or is it just " word salad " ? Bill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 27, 2004 > > - > " Bill Rishel " <plexus > <Nisargadatta > > Saturday, March 27, 2004 10:47 AM > Re: " Identity & I Am " (sandeep) > > > > Sandeep, > > > > When you say: > > > > " Everything " or " allness " ,..............is once again a > conceptualizing,.....once again an > > > > identity........and thus a hoopla of the mind. > > do you consider there is any " correctness " in your statement? Do you > consider it to be in any way valid/true/ " right " ? > > > > How would it be different to say: > > > > " Everything " or " allness " ,..............is NOT a conceptualizing,.....and NOT a hoopla > > > > of the mind. > > Would you say the difference between the two statements is just that the squigglies > > are different? Just that they use different words? ------------ A communication, whether within a cyber-based gathering like this one, or a physical satsangh or even on an one-to one basis,.........is with concepts, of concepts. Irrespective of of any name that you wish to take. In a gestalt of duality, itself being a conceptual comjecture, conceptualizings is all that can occur. Thus both the statements above, in essence are concepts. The difference is that one perpetuates the sense of the " conceptualizer " believing in an identity. The other may arrest that sense of a self. To allness,..............the concept of " allness " has no meaning. -------------- > > > > When you say: > > > > " Everything " or " allness " ,..............is once again a > conceptualizing,.....once again an identity........and thus a hoopla of the mind. > > do you consider yourself to be *saying* anything, or is it just " word salad " ? ------------------ A million prattlings, all over cyber-space. And not a single saying has been said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
