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>when i first met my Guru i said to

>myself, here is enlightenement staring me in the face, with a great

>big warm welcoming smile, i must be very very close...

 

 

What has happened since then Devi? Why is it you are not enlightened?

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Nisargadatta , " toby20042004 "

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> >when i first met my Guru i said to

> >myself, here is enlightenement staring me in the face, with a

great

> >big warm welcoming smile, i must be very very close...

>

>

> What has happened since then Devi? Why is it you are not

enlightened?

 

devi:why are you assuming i am not

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on 4/9/03 11:51 AM, devianandi at devi wrote:

 

> Nisargadatta , " toby20042004 "

> <toby.wilson@t...> wrote:

 

>> What has happened since then Devi? Why is it you are not

> enlightened?

>

> devi:why are you assuming i am not

 

*******************

 

Careful you guys...one of you has just been handed a loaded gun...and the

other is perhaps just loaded.

)))))))Shawn

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> > devi:why are you assuming i am not

>

> *******************

>

> Careful you guys...one of you has just been handed a loaded gun...and the

> other is perhaps just loaded.

> )))))))Shawn

 

A Rottweiler with a sore tooth springs to mind.

 

Stuart.

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Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <devi@p...> wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " toby20042004 "

> <toby.wilson@t...> wrote:

> > >when i first met my Guru i said to

> > >myself, here is enlightenement staring me in the face, with a

> great

> > >big warm welcoming smile, i must be very very close...

> >

> >

> > What has happened since then Devi? Why is it you are not

> enlightened?

>

> devi:why are you assuming i am not

 

 

Your actions scream so loudly in my face, that I cannot hear what you

are saying.

 

I'm not assuming Devi. You are not enlightened. No need to take

offence at this. The reality of it can be freeing for you. Your ego

no longer needs to hold up and support your " enlightened status. "

Your ego does not need to be offended by Stuart thinking you're

missing a point now and then.

 

As the sex crazed maniac cult leader John de Ruiter put it, " There is

only one living way that is really true. All the other ways of being

have to be rationalized, supported, held together, defended,

protected. Every other way of being requires some measure of

dishonesty. "

 

I say let in absolute honesty Devi, let it split you in two.

 

Toby

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Nisargadatta , " Stuart Johnson " <stuart@s...>

wrote:

> > > devi:why are you assuming i am not

> >

> > *******************

> >

> > Careful you guys...one of you has just been handed a loaded

gun...and the

> > other is perhaps just loaded.

> > )))))))Shawn

>

> A Rottweiler with a sore tooth springs to mind.

>

> Stuart.

 

 

Shawn and Stuart,

 

Mirthful yet vigilent.

 

Toby

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>

> Careful you guys...one of you has just been handed a loaded

gun...and the

> other is perhaps just loaded.

> )))))))Shawn

 

 

devi: thanks for the warning

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Nisargadatta , " Stuart Johnson " <stuart@s...>

wrote:

> > > devi:why are you assuming i am not

> >

> > *******************

> >

> > Careful you guys...one of you has just been handed a loaded

gun...and the

> > other is perhaps just loaded.

> > )))))))Shawn

>

> A Rottweiler with a sore tooth springs to mind.

>

> Stuart.

 

maybe you should clean your mind,and your heart while your at it,

thats a pretty ugly picture you've got..

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devi:when i first met my Guru i said to

myself, here is enlightenement staring me in the face, with a

great big warm welcoming smile, i must be very very close...

toby:What has happened since then Devi? Why is it you are not

enlightened?

devi:why are you assuming i am not

toby:Your actions scream so loudly in my face, that I cannot hear

what you are saying.

devi: you're hearing you own voice screaming, not mine, your making

up scenarios in you head:

toby:I'm not assuming Devi.

devi: it seemed like you were to me

toby: You are not enlightened.

devi: I Am Enlightened

toby: No need to take offence at this.

devi: do you think i am offended so easily by a jerk, think again..

toby:The reality of it can be freeing for you.

devi: i am already free

toby:Your ego no longer needs to hold up and support

your " enlightened status. "

devi: what and who the fuck do you think you are?

toby:Your ego does not need to be offended by Stuart thinking you're

missing a point now and then.

devi: and your ego doesn't need to be *playing the big shot know it

all asshole)

toby:As the sex crazed maniac cult leader John de Ruiter put

it, " There is only one living way that is really true. All the other

ways of being have to be rationalized, supported, held together,

defended, protected. Every other way of being requires some measure

of dishonesty. "

devi: seems to me you need to take your own advise,moron

toby:I say let in absolute honesty Devi,

devi: you won't find any more honest than me

toby:let it split you in two.

devi: thats' the most bizar statement someones made to me in a long

time..

 

i thought this was a group for the holy nisargadatta dialog, what the

fuck are you bringing a creep like john de ruter here..and oh, don't

be offended..

 

 

 

do yourself a favor toby, get lost..<----now i think thats profound

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> do yourself a favor toby, get lost..<----now i think thats profound

>

 

 

I have some cream for those stomach muscles Toby.

 

I think I need to lie down now.

 

 

Stuart

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on 4/10/03 6:23 AM, devianandi at devi wrote:

 

>

> devi:when i first met my Guru i said to

> myself, here is enlightenement staring me in the face, with a

> great big warm welcoming smile, i must be very very close...

> toby:What has happened since then Devi? Why is it you are not

> enlightened?

> devi:why are you assuming i am not

> toby:Your actions scream so loudly in my face, that I cannot hear

> what you are saying.

> devi: you're hearing you own voice screaming, not mine, your making

> up scenarios in you head:

> toby:I'm not assuming Devi.

> devi: it seemed like you were to me

> toby: You are not enlightened.

> devi: I Am Enlightened

> toby: No need to take offence at this.

> devi: do you think i am offended so easily by a jerk, think again..

> toby:The reality of it can be freeing for you.

> devi: i am already free

> toby:Your ego no longer needs to hold up and support

> your " enlightened status. "

> devi: what and who the fuck do you think you are?

> toby:Your ego does not need to be offended by Stuart thinking you're

> missing a point now and then.

> devi: and your ego doesn't need to be *playing the big shot know it

> all asshole)

> toby:As the sex crazed maniac cult leader John de Ruiter put

> it, " There is only one living way that is really true. All the other

> ways of being have to be rationalized, supported, held together,

> defended, protected. Every other way of being requires some measure

> of dishonesty. "

> devi: seems to me you need to take your own advise,moron

> toby:I say let in absolute honesty Devi,

> devi: you won't find any more honest than me

> toby:let it split you in two.

> devi: thats' the most bizar statement someones made to me in a long

> time..

>

> i thought this was a group for the holy nisargadatta dialog, what the

> fuck are you bringing a creep like john de ruter here..and oh, don't

> be offended..

>

>

>

> do yourself a favor toby, get lost..<----now i think thats profound

 

 

 

Thanks devi, that cinched it for me...give you enough rope and you hang

yourself. I haven't heard one thing come out of your mouth that would lead

me to think you were anymore awake than any Joe on the street, quite the

contrary.

 

I guess one of the hardest things to be doing would be to be dreaming that

you're awake.

 

)))))Shawn

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Nisargadatta , Stuart Johnson <stuart@s...>

wrote:

> > do yourself a favor toby, get lost..<----now i think thats

profound

> >

>

>

> I have some cream for those stomach muscles Toby.

>

> I think I need to lie down now.

>

>

> Stuart

 

 

No humour tickles deeper than spiritual seriousness based in

illusion...

 

I don't know whether to laugh at the folly of it or cry at the

tragedy of it.

 

Toby

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