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Jeeva Karthrutva Was: PART III - MADHWA NAVA RATRI [3 Attachments]

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Narahari Sumadhwa <naraharisumadhwa wrote from the PDF " Madhwa Siddhantha Tatva " in English on Wednesday, 20th January, 2010

 

 >>> 13. Whether the jeeva is swatantra or bhagavanta’s adheena?

 

>>>- All are under the control of Srihari. No one other than Srihari is swatantra. Even then Srihari has given some swatantrya. 

 

 

Is it possible to have two Swatantrya entity?  Did Srihari give swatantrya to jeevas?  If Sri Hari had given swatantrya to all jeevas,  does Sri Hari become paratantra?

 

I think,  many of us use the word Svatantrya  very loosely.  We need to know the defination of Swatantrya before we use this word loosely.  

 

 Vishnu is the only ONE who is  sarvottama, anantaguNapUrNa, doShadUraH, sarvAntaryAmi, sarvavyApta,  sarvaswami, sarvakAraka, SVATANTRYA.    nAham svatantrya from anAdhi kAla to anantha kAla.

 

If we know that Sarvothama Vishnu  gives the prerane to all jeevas " sarva preranatva " & He is  " sarvaj~nAthva " (All knowing),  it will be easy to understand that jeevas are paratantra.  Jeevas are always Bhaghavantha adheena.   When Lord Sri Hari did not give the Svatantrya to JagatmAte Lakshmi devi,  where do jeevas have svatantrya?

 

Srimad Acharya said in Gita Bhashya

 

nAham kartA hariH kartA tatpUjA karmachaakhilam.h|taThaapi matkR^itaa pUja tatprasaadhEna naanyaThaa|tadbhakti tadphalam.h mahyam.h tatprasaadaat.h punaH punaH |

karmanyaasO harAvevam.h vishNOsthR^iptikaraH sadhA  ||

 

" I am not the doer, shri Hari is the doer, all the actions that I do are His worship. Even then, the worship I do is through His grace and not otherwise. That devotion and the fruits of the actions that come to me are due to His recurring grace "

If one always practices to do actions with a dedicated spirit to Hari, in this way, it pleases Vishnu.       

Without Sarvothama Vishnu, BharatI ramaNa Mukhyaprana & tatvAbhimani devathas knowledge, jeevas cannot do any kriye even for a second (lavalesha).  Even manasu, ichcha is controlled by tatvAbhimani devathas. Sri VijayadAsaru wrote on Rudra devaru  " Manasu kArana vella pApa puNya kella, analaksha ninna prerane illade "  . Sri Purandara dAsaru wrote " hari chitta satya, narachittake baMdaddu lavalEsha nadeyadu "   Where do we have svatantrya?

 

 Other knowledgeable persons are welcome to add.

 

 

Sri Vidyadeesha Theertharu of Udupi Sri Krishna Palimar matha has given very informative lectures on Sri Datta Swanthantya Sandhi of Harikathamruthasaara.  Please register to login www.livepravachana.com .  click on Archives & Swamiji’s lectures.  Click on Harikathamruthasaara & click on Download harikathamruthasaara_32.mp3.   The lecture is on Datta Swatantrya sandhi.

 

There are some information, lectures from scholars  http://www.sripurandaraashrama.org/JivaKartrutva.html. 

 

haraye namaH

 

Shobha Srinivasan

 

 

 

 

---------- Forwarded message ----------Narahari Sumadhwa <naraharisumadhwa

2010/1/20 PART III - MADHWA NAVA RATRI [3 Attachments]SUMADHWASEVA

 

 

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