Srividya initiation

July 20, 2009

I am aspiring to get initiated into the Srividya tradition. I live in chennai

india ,can anybody tell me or guide me through initiation into the Srividya

upasana?

Regards

Prabhus

July 20, 2009

jai gurudev

http://www.devipuram.com

pls chk here.

om shakti

gopal

On 7/20/09, SRINIVASAN PADMANABHAN <prabhusri wrote:

>

> I am aspiring to get initiated into the Srividya tradition. I live in

> chennai india ,can anybody tell me or guide me through initiation into the

> Srividya upasana?

>

> Regards

> Prabhus

>

July 20, 2009

Contact Karunamayi thru http://www.karunamayi.org or Ammachi at

http://www.amritapuri.org.

________________________________

SRINIVASAN PADMANABHAN <prabhusri

I am aspiring to get initiated into the Srividya tradition. I live in chennai

india ,can anybody tell me or guide me through initiation into the Srividya

upasana?

Regards

Prabhus

July 20, 2009

Have you tried the Meenakshi Temple in your area?

________________________________

, Priya Babu <sripriyasivanathba bu

wrote:

>

> Om Sri Matre Namah,

> I am aspiring to get initiated into the Srividya tradition. I will be

in Houston, Texas from Sep 2009 to Dec 2009 . Does anybody know of a Guru

around Houston/ Sugarland who can initiate me into the Srividya upasana?

>

> Thank you

>

> Priya

July 20, 2009

To all the brothers/sisters,

I agree that spirituality has become a commodity for sale in the market. There

are lots of Gurus to do this and also there are thousands of people who fall

prey, me being one of them, just for reasons like lack of choice/lack of

knowledge/lack of opportunity. I can understand your concern,but that does not

mean there are no true seekers out there.

Being a housewife, and a mother, I cannot always do whatever I want to do and go

wherever I want to go. That doesn't mean my family members are control freaks.

They love me very much and are only trying to protect me from fake Gurus and

money mongers. If you are an Indian house holder, you know what I mean.

Housewife or whatever, the spiritual thirst that is burning inside cannot be

controlled, can it?

I am a very simple person. I do not know any mantra or tantra or pooja. I am

devoted to my Mother with all my heart and I do not see Her as some distant

unapproachable Celestial Being, rather I feel very close and connected to

Her. If I am worthy, my Mother will show me a true Guru. If not I'll cling on to

Her feet and wait for Her order.

Having said this, I cannot just sit lazily and wait for something to happen. It

is my duty to take effort and that is exactly what I am doing. I leave the rest

to Her.

I thank everyone who were encouraging. I really truly appreciate it.

Sri Matre Namah

Priya

July 21, 2009

Namaste:

I guess the instant this and that does get to one especially if you have spent

25 years meditating and still don't have a guru.

What ever happened to: Pray the Kadgamala Stotram every morning at 4 am for 3

years, and then get back to me.

Laugh. Oh well.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1235552912

http://www.myspace.com/shankari_kali

--- On Sun, 7/19/09, Kluber <vivekkvn wrote:

Kluber <vivekkvn

Re: Srividya initiation

Sunday, July 19, 2009, 11:30 PM

Dear Priyaji,

I look at your post and wonder what you are aiming at?

You say you will be available??? ?

Could you please highlight on your spiritual journey before you ask for being

intiated?

In the age of " instant " everthing, do you yourself feel Sri Vidya is such a

thing?

Vivek

, " NMadasamy " <nora wrote:

>

> What really upsets me is when spiritualism is being treated like those cheap

drugs you can buy over the counter..... ..perhaps this is what it has

become...... ...

>

> , Priya Babu <sripriyasivanathba bu@>

wrote:

> >

> > Om Sri Matre Namah,

> > I am aspiring to get initiated into the Srividya tradition. I will be in

Houston, Texas from Sep 2009 to Dec 2009 . Does anybody know of a Guru around

Houston/ Sugarland who can initiate me into the Srividya upasana?

> >

> > Thank you

> >

> > Priya

July 21, 2009

, Priya Babu <sripriyasivanathbabu

wrote:

>

> To all the brothers/sisters,

>

> I agree that spirituality has become a commodity for sale in the market. There

are lots of Gurus to do this and also there are thousands of people who fall

prey, me being one of them, just for reasons like lack of choice/lack of

knowledge/lack of opportunity. I can understand your concern,but that does not

mean there are no true seekers out there.

>

Priya, I am a housewife, I am a mother, I am a daughter ….I am also once a

successful career woman who give up her dream of being the future director of

nursing in a fast cosmopolitan country : Singapore, so that she can devote her

life fulltime as a mother, a housewife, a daughter and others that come along

with it I can't just name it right now. Many of my friends says im crazy....im

nut and my feminist friend call me names you could not imagine, but I follow the

direction set for me of which I know not. All I know.....this is the path meant

for me. Many a time yes! ive question my own action: why! Why! did I do all

these.....I could be famous my name could be in the history book of nurses in

Singapore, I could lead nation of nurses to new directions new frontiers... ...

why! why! Do I end up here.

The only thing that still remain in my heart and mind since young is that: I

wanted to do something to humanity. I want to be sacrifice......it take me a

long time for me to understand this. Now that has happen as the years goes make

sense to me.....Your family is the microscopic manifestation of the world at

large. Why do I say this?

Yes! I understand that feeling........ we are spiritualist. We want to spend our

time 24X7 doing sadhana... or run up into the jungle in solitary.. and devote

our time fully to the divine.. but we can't why? because this is who we are and

what we have become. We can go on lamenting the unjust responsibilities ascribe

to us as restricting our spiritual aspiration but the reality of it is that this

is what we must learn and we must overcome. Trying to run away from it is not

the answer to the issue. Our family commitment is what we must do. We have our

child to care for... can we turn our back when we hear the cries of our child?

I have began to understand : your family is DEVI herself. If you hurt your

husband, you are hurting DEVI, if you hurt your child : you are hurting DEVI. If

you sit and in the midst of our japa….and you hear your husband calling you or

your child cries for you… you must stop your japa and answer them.. because that

too is DEVI calling. It takes me a long time to understand this action….but yes

I am now.

In one of DEVI's names : " She is a wira " . If you read at several interpretation

they say [ mind you all these interprete by men] .. they say " she is a wira

because she give birth to sons.. You actually want to believe this? No I don't..

I reject such interpretation.

SHE is a WIRA because she put the interest of others before her. If she has to

sacrifice herself so that others particularly her children could live….she would

do it without having any second thought. It take me till this life time to

understand fully this statement.

My advice for you : Put your family as your priority first because for your

[us] in this lifetime this is our sadhana. A true guru will come to you when you

are ready trust me priya…..HE/SHE will come in your life when you least expect

it. Its good you see several people have given you the lead….follow that lead.

Again you must remember those may not be your path……you can try to make the

journey to meet those guru….but a long the way other things may come along the

way ….and you will be surprise you end up somewhere else…. That is your destiny

How does my guru come into my picture.. over dinning table while having dinner

with my husband and I told him " Dear …. Look at our daughter.. she is

growing….. and many other children will come to us……they will too grow and ask

us.. questions,do we have the answer…. Perhaps its time for us too to see

guidance.. but how he ask… I don't know…. But we should start looking .. and

perhaps pray for one "

This Priya is my little voice. A voice of a mother, a housewife, a daughter and

a friend.

July 21, 2009

NMadasamy wrote:

> SHE is a WIRA because she put the interest of others before her. If

> she has to sacrifice herself so that others particularly her children

> could live….she would do it without having any second thought. It take

> me till this life time to understand fully this statement

> My advice for you : Put your family as your priority first because for

> your [us] in this lifetime this is our sadhana.

Your advice is heartfelt, but how would it have been if Mirabai had

listened to those who told her the same thing? The Devi is EVERYTHING.

She can't put other people's interests above her own, she is and loves

everyone equally. Of course our own selfish interests are less important

than the real needs of others. But that's because they're selfish, not

because they're our own. Our real interests are more important than the

selfish interests of others. Not that it's easy to know which is which,

but that's still the question we need to ask.

There are many different paths. Your sadhana is what's right for you,

but that doesn't mean that it's right for Priya. It could be that those

who are trying to hold her back are looking after selfish interests of

their own--and how could anything good come from giving up something

real in yourself to feed the delusions of others? That kind of sacrifice

is no sacrifice at all; it just mires everyone deeper in maya.

As Jesus said, judge not. I honor you for the path you've taken, and

I'll trust Priya to know hers.

Michael Steinberg

July 22, 2009

Dear Michael,

Nobody is after any selfish motto here!!!

I pray to Amba to give you words of purity!

Coming to Priya, if she was so interested and her deep belonging to mother was

so apt and perfect why does she want to have Sri Vidya initiation?

Instead, as you rightly suggested the very essence of Bhakti would be enough!!

Perfect Bhakti, Powerful Bhakti, nothing but Amma / Amba..if these things are

really functioning in Priya, she would not have posted in this group in the

first place.

Sri Vidya and its concepts has a different realm a different plane.

Its not the " technicality " of devotion but " devotion " which was so deep rooted

in Meerabai that everything else, just would not matter!

Athyantha Bhakti....that is the only answer!!!

May Amba bless you with Wisdom!

Vivek

, Michael Steinberg <mlstein wrote:

>

> NMadasamy wrote:

>

> > SHE is a WIRA because she put the interest of others before her. If

> > she has to sacrifice herself so that others particularly her children

> > could live….she would do it without having any second thought. It take

> > me till this life time to understand fully this statement

> > My advice for you : Put your family as your priority first because for

> > your [us] in this lifetime this is our sadhana.

>

> Your advice is heartfelt, but how would it have been if Mirabai had

> listened to those who told her the same thing? The Devi is EVERYTHING.

> She can't put other people's interests above her own, she is and loves

> everyone equally. Of course our own selfish interests are less important

> than the real needs of others. But that's because they're selfish, not

> because they're our own. Our real interests are more important than the

> selfish interests of others. Not that it's easy to know which is which,

> but that's still the question we need to ask.

>

> There are many different paths. Your sadhana is what's right for you,

> but that doesn't mean that it's right for Priya. It could be that those

> who are trying to hold her back are looking after selfish interests of

> their own--and how could anything good come from giving up something

> real in yourself to feed the delusions of others? That kind of sacrifice

> is no sacrifice at all; it just mires everyone deeper in maya.

>

> As Jesus said, judge not. I honor you for the path you've taken, and

> I'll trust Priya to know hers.

>

> Michael Steinberg

>

July 22, 2009

Dear brothers and sisters,

All your opinions here have aroused a lot of questions in me. Thank you all very

much, because I think it is a good thing. Where there questions, there are

answers, right?

Vivek Ji,

I don't exactly understand what you mean here. Sorry if I got this wrong, but

after reading your mail, I came up withÂ these questions. " Does Bhakthi and

SriVidya not go hand in hand? What are all of you doing here? You did not have

Adhyantha Bhakthi, that's why you came to SriVidya? Is SriVidya just a bunch of

mantras and techniques without the essence of Bhakthi?

You said , " Srividya and it's concepts has a different realm and a different

plane " ?Â So, is it only for people on a different plane? not for ordinary

people like me? Maybe it is one of the reasons why IÂ am so curious.

Is it not the nature ofÂ a seekerÂ to Want to know more and seek more? Even

Buddha went from Guru after Guru, he was not satisfied with any of their

principles and finally came up with His own " The Middle Path " . The Great

RamaKrishna Paramahamsa alsoÂ has practised various different spiritual

disciplines including Saktha, Vaishnava and Islamic and Christianity.Does it

mean He did not have enough Bhakthi, so He jumped from one sect to another?

I believe bhakthi is there in everyone of us and it remains the same all the

time. Â It is only the bhava that changes.

I am no Meera, no Buddha , no Ramakrishna paramahamsa. I am a seeker on my own

rights and I will not stop until I find the path meant for me. It may or may not

be Srividya, but who knows? My heart tells me to go here and I believe that my

higher self is directing me to the next step towards the Absolute. There may be

many many more steps to comeÂ and a lot more hurdles and frictions along side.

Are we to fear and stop?Â Â NO!

Nora Ji,

Â You are right. Family comes first. Â I have not disturbed or forced them into

my spiritual beliefs or aspirations and I will not do it ever. But I cannot

afford to stop.

Michael Ji,

It is very true thatÂ most of the times family members act very selfish. But

they do a lot of sacrifes too. After all the world is full of dualitis. It's

like walking on knife.

May The Supreme Mother protect and guide us all.

Priya.

July 22, 2009

Dear Priya--

All my heart goes to you. My feeling is that the choice of path is up to

you and the Devi and not to anyone else. My own guru asked his guru what

he should do in return for diksha and was told, " Teach everyone who

wants to learn. " I tried to write in that spirit.

Namaste.

Michael

July 22, 2009

, Michael Steinberg <mlstein wrote:

>

> Dear Priya--

>

> All my heart goes to you. My feeling is that the choice of path is up to you

and the Devi and not to anyone else. My own guru asked his guru what he should

do in return for diksha and was told, " Teach everyone who wants to learn. " I

tried to write in that spirit.

>

Did I say any different? If you read my message properly I said : Follow the

lead given to you by several members here.... you may take that journey to meet

the guru [ appointment given to you ] but along the way you be surprise you end

up somewhere else....and that is your destiny.

We are not here to tell others what their path is....but based on Priya

description, I could understand her position bec I was were Priya is right now.

Eventually its Priya who have to make that journey. This is what the whole group

is all about. We do not force others our ideology and say : this is what you

must do?

July 22, 2009

, Priya Babu <sripriyasivanathbabu

wrote:

>

> Dear brothers and sisters,

>

> All your opinions here have aroused a lot of questions in me. Thank you all

very much, because I think it is a good thing. Where there questions, there are

answers, right?

>

> Vivek Ji,

> I don't exactly understand what you mean here. Sorry if I got this wrong, but

after reading your mail, I came up withÂ these questions. " Does Bhakthi and

SriVidya not go hand in hand? What are all of you doing here? You did not have

Adhyantha Bhakthi, that's why you came to SriVidya? Is SriVidya just a bunch of

mantras and techniques without the essence of Bhakthi?

>

> You said , " Srividya and it's concepts has a different realm and a different

plane " ?Â So, is it only for people on a different plane? not for ordinary

people like me? Maybe it is one of the reasons why IÂ am so curious.

>

> Is it not the nature ofÂ a seekerÂ to Want to know more and seek more? Even

Buddha went from Guru after Guru, he was not satisfied with any of their

principles and finally came up with His own " The Middle Path " . The Great

RamaKrishna Paramahamsa alsoÂ has practised various different spiritual

disciplines including Saktha, Vaishnava and Islamic and Christianity.Does it

mean He did not have enough Bhakthi, so He jumped from one sect to another?

>

Priya perhaps you like to take a look at our blog.....now move to our profile

page. In there there's a lengthy discussion we have in the group [ which I have

compile them ]

[1] Srividya, its concept and its two paths

[2] Srividya upasana practices

and also in the forum paga at :

http://www.shaktisadhana.org/Newhomepage/TheForum.html

Hope this help you.....

July 22, 2009

, " NMadasamy " <nora wrote:

> Priya perhaps you like to take a look at our blog.....now move to our profile

page.

I think this is the blog Nora is referring to:

http://profiles./blog/EONZDVAHY2N2AX2FNP33OOYDBA

> In there there's a lengthy discussion we have in the group [ which I > have

compile them ]

> [1] Srividya, its concept and its two paths

> [2] Srividya upasana practices

>

> and also in the forum paga at :

http://www.shaktisadhana.org/Newhomepage/TheForum.html

>

July 22, 2009

, Priya Babu <sripriyasivanathbabu

wrote:

>

> All your opinions here have aroused a lot of questions in me.

I think they are very good questions!

Thank you for posting them. May they inspire as many posts

as our friend Gopal did. (smile.)

> Does Bhakthi and SriVidya not go hand in hand?

> What are all of you doing here?

> Is SriVidya just a bunch of mantras and

> techniques without the essence of Bhakthi?

> So, is it only for people on a different plane?

> not for ordinary people like me?

It's interesting. With all the recent talk of high-voltage

mantras vs. " just devotional " stotras, one might get the

impression that bhakti is some sort of lesser path for

lesser beings. I'm not an initiate, and certainly

not authoritative on the subject, but I just can't

believe there can be merger (with Devi)

without burning love for Her.

Maybe our more clueful members will weigh in on the topic --

what's the place of bhakti in Sri Vidya?

> I am a seeker on my own rights and I will not stop until I find the path meant

for me. It may or may not be Srividya, but who knows? My heart tells me to go

here and I believe that my higher self is directing me to the next step towards

the Absolute. There may be many many more steps to comeÂ and a lot more hurdles

and frictions along side.

> Are we to fear and stop?Â Â NO!

July 22, 2009

i have pur my views in capital letters. Normally capitals are supposed to be

shouting I am using capitals to distinguish my views.

--- On Wed, 7/22/09, Priya Babu <sripriyasivanathbabu wrote:

Priya Babu <sripriyasivanathbabu

Re: Srividya initiation

Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 9:00 PM

Dear brothers and sisters,

All your opinions here have aroused a lot of questions in me. Thank you all very

much, because I think it is a good thing. Where there questions, there are

answers, right?

Vivek Ji,

I don't exactly understand what you mean here. Sorry if I got this wrong, but

after reading your mail, I came up with these questions. " Does Bhakthi and

SriVidya not go hand in hand? What are all of you doing here? You did not have

Adhyantha Bhakthi, that's why you came to SriVidya? Is SriVidya just a bunch of

mantras and techniques without the essence of Bhakthi?

WITHOUT BHAKTI THERE IS NO UPASANA OR UPASAKA. THEY DO GO HAND IN HAND. SV IS

NOT A BUNCH OF MANTRAS AND TECHNIQUES. THE QUALIFICATION IS DECIDED BY GURU AND

GURU ALONE. IT IS BELIEVED BY THE SYSTEM THAT SV IS THE END. SO IT IS PRESUMED

THAT THE UPASAKA HAS GONE THROUGH VARIOUS OTHER STAGES TO REACH IT. SV HAS SOME

BASIC CONCEPTS. THE BASE OBE BEING ONE DOES NOT CHOOSE SV BUT SV CHOOSES THE

ADHERANT. NO SVU BELIEVES IN EXCLUSIVITY. I BELIVE IN THE CONCEPT BECAUSE I HAVE

EXPERIENCED IT. I SEARCHED FOR AN SVU ADEPT FOR DECADES AND WHEN THE TIME CAME

THE GURU LITTERALLY APPEARED AT MY DOOR-STEP. IT WAS NOT ANY THAT I WENT AFTER.

You said , " Srividya and it's concepts has a different realm and a different

plane " ? So, is it only for people on a different plane? not for ordinary people

like me? Maybe it is one of the reasons why I am so curious. THAT IS NOT CORRECT

AS YOU PUT IT. REAL SV IS SOMETHING ON A DIFFERENT PLANE BECAUSE OF THE MENTAL

ATTITUDE ONE HAS TO ATTAIN. UNLIKE OTHER SYSTEMS TAKING SV FROM AN ADEPT GURU

DOES NOT GRANT BLISS INSTANTANEOUSLY. IT GRANTS YOU MISERY. ONE IS FORCED TO

SUFFER AND BURN OFF BANKED KARMA - NORMALLY SUFFERED OVER BIRTHS IN MANY BRIRTHS

IN ONE BIRTH. THATS WHY ONE IS CAUTIONED BEFORE ONE IS GRANTED. UNLIKE ON THE

NET, IT IS A LONG DRAWN OUT PROCESS WITH GRADUAL INTRODUCTIONS TO MANTRAS OVER

YEARS WITH THE GURU GUIDING EVERY STEP. tHE NORMAL GRADATION IS BALA, GANAPATY,

PANCHADASHI, VARAHI, MATANGI, THE SPECIAL MANTRA OF THE PARAMPARA AND LASTLY

SHODASHI. THE BEAUTY OF THE SYSTEM IS THAT THOSE WHO ARE NOT READY DROP OFF. I

HAVE SEEN PERFECT

BHAKTAS PROGRESS AND THEN WHEN THE BAD EXPERIENCES START DROP OFF. SV IS A

JELOUS MISTRESS INDEED. SOME DO NOT EXPERIENCE ANYTHING. THEY ARE THE LUCKY ONES

FOR THEY HAD BURNT OFF THEIR KARMAS EARLIER. IT IS THIS SIDE EFFECT THAT IS THE

CAUSE OF THE CAUTIONS. WITH SV COMES VERY ARDUOUS RESPONSIBLITIES INCLUDING AN

UNDERTAKING TO DO THE UPASANA CONSISTANTLY. FAILURE DOES NOT HURT THE

PRACTIOTIONER AT ALL. BUT IT AFFECTS THE GURU. WHICH IS WHY MANY SV GURUS SUFFER

TREMENDOUSLY. THE WILLINGNESS TO UNDERSTAND AND TAKE THE BURDEN IS A SINE QUA

NON FOR SV.

Is it not the nature of a seeker to Want to know more and seek more? Even Buddha

went from Guru after Guru, he was not satisfied with any of their principles and

finally came up with His own " The Middle Path " . The Great RamaKrishna

Paramahamsa also has practised various different spiritual disciplines including

Saktha, Vaishnava and Islamic and Christianity. Does it mean He did not have

enough Bhakthi, so He jumped from one sect to another?

IT IS SAID IN SV THAT LIKE A BEE FLITS FROM FLOWER TO FLOWER THE UPASAKA FLITS

FROM DESIKA TO DESIKA TILL HE REACHES THE GURU. HE PRACTICES VARIOUS DECIPLINES

AND THE SV SAYS THAT ONE HAS TO BECOME SHIVA HIMSELF OR BE IN THE LAST BIRTH TO

GET SV. BHAKTI IS THE VERY FOUNDATION OF ALL UPASANA. BUT BHAKTI ALONE IS NOT

ENOUGH FOR SV. AQUIRING THE VARIOUS KNOWLEDGES TO MAKE ONE READY FOR THE VARIOUS

ENCOUNTERS THAT TAKE PLACE AFTER ONE STARTS SV PRACTICES IS ALSO ESSENTIAL OR

ONE WILL FALL. BHAKTI ALONE WILL NOT SUSTAIN. THE REASON IS THAT SV MAKES U

EXPERIENCE THE UNITY AND ONE HAS TO BE READY TO UNDERSTAND AND ACCEPT OTHERWISE

IT WILL BE AN EXPERIENCE ONE CANNOT CONTAIN AND CAN CAUSE A NOT SO PLEASENT

STATE.

I believe bhakthi is there in everyone of us and it remains the same all the

time. It is only the bhava that changes.

I am no Meera, no Buddha , no Ramakrishna paramahamsa. I am a seeker on my own

rights and I will not stop until I find the path meant for me. It may or may not

be Srividya, but who knows? My heart tells me to go here and I believe that my

higher self is directing me to the next step towards the Absolute. There may be

many many more steps to come and a lot more hurdles and frictions along side.

Are we to fear and stop? NO!

I AGREE WITH YOU 110% OE AS PAKISTANIS REGULARLY SAY 400%. GO ON SEARCH AND AS

AN EXPERINCED PERSON OF RATHER LONG YEARS (IN AGE ONLY) SEARCH AND YOU SHALL

FIND. WHEN YOU FIND YOU WILL KNOW.

Nora Ji,

You are right. Family comes first. I have not disturbed or forced them into my

spiritual beliefs or aspirations and I will not do it ever. But I cannot afford

to stop.

Michael Ji,

It is very true that most of the times family members act very selfish. But they

do a lot of sacrifes too. After all the world is full of dualitis. It's like

walking on knife.

May The Supreme Mother protect and guide us all.

EXCEPT FOR AGE I HAVE LITTLE OTHER ASSETS. AS A LAWYER I DEAL WITH EVIL ALL THE

TIME. SUCH EVIL THAT MANY CANNOT IMAGINE. NOT SOMEONE WHO MURDERED ONE OR TWO.

BUT PEOPLE WHO KILLED A MILLION IN 100 DAYS. IT IS SV THAT HAS GIVEN ME THE

STRENGTH. IT IS MOTHER WHO LITTERALLY BROUGHT ME INTO THIS. SHE SUSTAINS ME

THROUGH EVIL AND AGONY. I JUST PENNED MY THOUGHTS. I HOPE I AM CLEAR. IF NOT

QUESTION ME.

I KNOW I AM HARSH WHEN I CRITICIZE. THATS MY NATURE, I CALL A SPADE A SPADE.

PLEASE FORGIVE

Priya.

July 22, 2009

Dear brother Michael and sister Nora,

I am so glad that there is finally somebody who can understand my situation,

'cause my family doesn't. Nora ji, I am reading the e-mail compilation right

now.

Thanks

Priya

________________________________

NMadasamy <nora

Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:12:04 PM

Re: Srividya initiation

, Michael Steinberg <mlstein > wrote:

>

> Dear Priya--

>

> All my heart goes to you. My feeling is that the choice of path is up to you

and the Devi and not to anyone else. My own guru asked his guru what he should

do in return for diksha and was told, " Teach everyone who wants to learn. " I

tried to write in that spirit.

>

Did I say any different? If you read my message properly I said : Follow the

lead given to you by several members here.... you may take that journey to meet

the guru [ appointment given to you ] but along the way you be surprise you end

up somewhere else....and that is your destiny.

We are not here to tell others what their path is....but based on Priya

description, I could understand her position bec I was were Priya is right now.

Eventually its Priya who have to make that journey. This is what the whole group

is all about. We do not force others our ideology and say : this is what you

must do?

July 22, 2009

, Michael Steinberg <mlstein wrote:

[1] advice is heartfelt but how would it have been if Mirabai had listened to

those who told her the same thing?

So honestly I will not try to crack my head and try to find the answer about

Mirabi action. She is meant to be what she is……….and I am who I have become and

will be. We are different people altogether. Each and every one of us has to

follow our destiny to be what we are. You can have so many people giving you

advice or [ for my case] threatening me with death sentence but if you are

meant to be in a particular path eventually you will end up where you are meant

to be.

[2] Devi is EVERYTHING.

Yes.....that is what precisely I said and I am not wrong in saying this. To

realize DEVI is to see her in all around you. How can you not? I presume you do

not understand this statement altogether. As for as I believe, DEVI is not

separate from us. She is within us all......you see her within you. To worship

HER you must be HER.

[3] She can't put other people's interests above her own, she is and loves

everyone equally. Of course our own selfish interests are less important than

the real needs of others. But that's because they're selfish, not because

they're our own. Our real interests are more important than the selfish

interests of others. Not that it's easy to know which is which, but that's still

the question we need to ask.

I think Micheal You do not understand my point of view altogether or perhaps I

have not made my point clear enough. Lets go back to that particular statement

I made : " The only thing that still remain in my heart and mind since young is

that: I wanted to do something to humanity. I want to be sacrifice......it take

me a long time for me to understand this. Now that has happen as the years goes

make sense to me.....Your family is the microscopic manifestation of the world

at large. Why do I say this? We want to spend our time 24X7 doing sadhana... or

run up into the jungle in solitary.. and devote

our time fully to the divine.. but we can't why? Because this is who we are and

what we have become. We can go on lamenting the unjust responsibilities ascribe

to us as restricting our spiritual aspiration but the reality of it is that this

is what we must learn and we must overcome. Trying to run away from it is not

the answer to the issue. Our family commitment is what we must do. "

We work along that limited parameters and try to transcend spiritually. That is

the challenge for us to overcome. We have to learn that before we [rather I]

want to go out there and try to understand about saving humanity, I must learn

to understand my own family. Being in a family as Priya herself has said we have

to make a lot of sacrifices: our own interest as well. It work both ways. Main

aim is to maintain the peace and harmony within. It's got nothing to do with

being selfish….

July 23, 2009

My Dear Sister Priya,

I am sorry if I have hurt your feelings in any way.

All I am suggesting is when one has " Athyantha " Bhakti towards Amma, she will

herself guide her baby (you) to the right path ordained for you in this birth!

Its so simple.

With Athyantha Bhakti and if your efforts are really sincere and " clear " the

path will be shown even without you knowing. You need not spend time on the web

and groups.

I say this with conviction my dear sister!

Please do understand the simplicity of it all!

May Amma guide you!

Vivek

, Priya Babu <sripriyasivanathbabu

wrote:

>

> Vivek Ji,

> I don't exactly understand what you mean here. Sorry if I got this wrong, but

after reading your mail, I came up withÂ these questions. " Does Bhakthi and

SriVidya not go hand in hand? What are all of you doing here? You did not have

Adhyantha Bhakthi, that's why you came to SriVidya? Is SriVidya just a bunch of

mantras and techniques without the essence of Bhakthi?

>

> You said , " Srividya and it's concepts has a different realm and a different

plane " ?Â So, is it only for people on a different plane? not for ordinary

people like me? Maybe it is one of the reasons why IÂ am so curious.

>

July 23, 2009

Dear brother Sankara Menon,

You do not sound harsh at all. I agree with you 100% and understand all the

points. Initially I wasn't sure where this discussion will lead me. After the

long quetions and answers, it has made me more prayerfull and willfull. If

Srividya is for me, let it come to me. Otherwise I'll atleast have the

satisfaction that I tried.

Priya.

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sankara menon <kochu1tz

Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:58:52 PM

Re: Re: Srividya initiation

i have pur my views in capital letters. Normally capitals are supposed to be

shouting I am using capitals to distinguish my views.

--- On Wed, 7/22/09, Priya Babu <sripriyasivanathbab u wrote:

Priya Babu <sripriyasivanathbab u