Guest guest Report post Posted February 6, 2008 for all those people who are into any form of daily/routine mantra jap or any sadhana just avoid shaking thier hands with other people as much as possible,such people should greet other people thru a namaskar.i have learnt this secret from a very intelligent knowledgable guru.thought i share it with u. after all knowledge is power.... Vikrant Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 7, 2008 You know something, This is what I was taught by my Guru also. I dont know if you are doing your sadhana in America or India or somewhere else, but When I was engaged very rigorously in my practice (in America) I always avoided shaking hands and other casual contact with people, and I was often responded to with confusion and sometimes disdain. I felt that people's negative vibes toward me for not being polite in the way in which they are accusomed to was maybe as disruptive to my energy as if I were to just not make a big deal out of it and shake their hand briefly, and reservedly. Also I believe the practice of refraining from casual contact ie shaking hands, quick hugs to those who are close to you and so on... would maybe serve to conserve a sadhaka's bhajanon a metaphysical level, but I feel strongly that it only promotes a mentality of seperateness in the physical world. Two worlds that are undeniably woven together. I am not saying one way is right and the other is wrong, I just wanted to share some thoughts. Regards, Rachel free_for_blue: free_for_blue: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:32:53 -0800 avoiding shaking hands for all those people who are into any form of daily/routine mantra jap or any sadhana just avoid shaking thier hands with other people as much as possible,such people should greet other people thru a namaskar.i have learnt this secret from a very intelligent knowledgable guru.thought i share it with u.after all knowledge is power....Vikrant You _______________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 7, 2008 Namaste Vikrant: I have a job where I have to shake people's hands, and it just simply is not customary here to do namaskar. Vikrant, can you explain a bit more about why people who do jap should not shake hands with others. Shanti Om! Shankari Vikrant <free_for_blue wrote: for all those people who are into any form of daily/routine mantra jap or any sadhana just avoid shaking thier hands with other people as much as possible,such people should greet other people thru a namaskar.i have learnt this secret from a very intelligent knowledgable guru.thought i share it with u. after all knowledge is power.... Vikrant Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 7, 2008 Namaste Rachel: I wonder if this has anything to do with the rising of the kundalini energy. I do know with regular japa over a period of time that a person begins to have symptoms of rising of the Kundalini (from personal experience). I also read somewhere that regular japa will do that. (I read that after I began to experience the kundalini). I don't have a guru that I can see and talk to on a regular basis, but I sometimes wonder about touching, shaking hands, hugging, or even speaking in close proximity. Just wondering, Shankari RACHEL GARCIA <omshantii wrote: You know something, This is what I was taught by my Guru also. I dont know if you are doing your sadhana in America or India or somewhere else, but When I was engaged very rigorously in my practice (in America) I always avoided shaking hands and other casual contact with people, and I was often responded to with confusion and sometimes disdain. I felt that people's negative vibes toward me for not being polite in the way in which they are accusomed to was maybe as disruptive to my energy as if I were to just not make a big deal out of it and shake their hand briefly, and reservedly. Also I believe the practice of refraining from casual contact ie shaking hands, quick hugs to those who are close to you and so on... would maybe serve to conserve a sadhaka's bhajanon a metaphysical level, but I feel strongly that it only promotes a mentality of seperateness in the physical world. Two worlds that are undeniably woven together. I am not saying one way is right and the other is wrong, I just wanted to share some thoughts. Regards, Rachel Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 7, 2008 EXCELLENT POINT. ~Janardana Dasa RACHEL GARCIA <omshantii wrote: You know something, This is what I was taught by my Guru also. I dont know if you are doing your sadhana in America or India or somewhere else, but When I was engaged very rigorously in my practice (in America) I always avoided shaking hands and other casual contact with people, and I was often responded to with confusion and sometimes disdain. I felt that people's negative vibes toward me for not being polite in the way in which they are accusomed to was maybe as disruptive to my energy as if I were to just not make a big deal out of it and shake their hand briefly, and reservedly. Also I believe the practice of refraining from casual contact ie shaking hands, quick hugs to those who are close to you and so on... would maybe serve to conserve a sadhaka's bhajanon a metaphysical level, but I feel strongly that it only promotes a mentality of seperateness in the physical world. Two worlds that are undeniably woven together. I am not saying one way is right and the other is wrong, I just wanted to share some thoughts. Regards, Rachel free_for_blue: free_for_blue: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:32:53 -0800 avoiding shaking hands for all those people who are into any form of daily/routine mantra jap or any sadhana just avoid shaking thier hands with other people as much as possible,such people should greet other people thru a namaskar.i have learnt this secret from a very intelligent knowledgable guru.thought i share it with u.after all knowledge is power....Vikrant You ________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 7, 2008 I really would not worry about " losing out " on any energy that I've " gained " during sadhana by shaking other people's hands. First, as DB says, why would you want to keep the fruits of your sadhana to yourself? To be ego-centric aboout the gains of sadhana defeats the very purpose of sadhana; is that not so? Second, we would all agree that the energy we gain from our sadhana is divine, and not mechanical. Any form of sincere sadhana opens us up to divine grace, which then flows in us and through us constantly. Divine Grace is not a tap that can run dry. So long one is receptive, it flows through ceaselessly. Sadhaks are but divine instruments. When you shake hands with a person, do not think of it as expending " your " energy: it is not yours and it is not limited. Sadhana does not end when you finish doing your jaap or meditation: it is a continuous process. Be Her instrument and let Her flow through you to all Her children. , Shankari Kali <shankari_kali wrote: > > Namaste Vikrant: > > I have a job where I have to shake people's hands, and it just simply is not customary here to do namaskar. > > Vikrant, can you explain a bit more about why people who do jap should not shake hands with others. > > Shanti Om! > Shankari > > Vikrant <free_for_blue wrote: for all those people who are into any form of daily/routine mantra jap or any sadhana just avoid shaking thier hands with other people as much as possible,such people should greet other people thru a namaskar.i have learnt this secret from a very intelligent knowledgable guru.thought i share it with u. > after all knowledge is power.... > > Vikrant > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 7, 2008 Noooooooooo it is very important. Thats why the eskimos greet by rubbing nose durgangam <durgangam wrote: I really would not worry about " losing out " on any energy that I've " gained " during sadhana by shaking other people's hands. First, as DB says, why would you want to keep the fruits of your sadhana to yourself? To be ego-centric aboout the gains of sadhana defeats the very purpose of sadhana; is that not so? Second, we would all agree that the energy we gain from our sadhana is divine, and not mechanical. Any form of sincere sadhana opens us up to divine grace, which then flows in us and through us constantly. Divine Grace is not a tap that can run dry. So long one is receptive, it flows through ceaselessly. Sadhaks are but divine instruments. When you shake hands with a person, do not think of it as expending " your " energy: it is not yours and it is not limited. Sadhana does not end when you finish doing your jaap or meditation: it is a continuous process. Be Her instrument and let Her flow through you to all Her children. , Shankari Kali <shankari_kali wrote: > > Namaste Vikrant: > > I have a job where I have to shake people's hands, and it just simply is not customary here to do namaskar. > > Vikrant, can you explain a bit more about why people who do jap should not shake hands with others. > > Shanti Om! > Shankari > > Vikrant <free_for_blue wrote: for all those people who are into any form of daily/routine mantra jap or any sadhana just avoid shaking thier hands with other people as much as possible,such people should greet other people thru a namaskar.i have learnt this secret from a very intelligent knowledgable guru.thought i share it with u. > after all knowledge is power.... > > Vikrant > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 8, 2008 Dwelling more on Divine Grace aspect stated by DB: Generally, it is said that those in the company of shakthas are protected. And shakthas or for that matter anyone gifted with divine grace of ability to do sadhana are warned subconsciously to the bad vibes existing in the environment. Also, those who get into physical contact and/or close proximity of those who perform sadhanas are not controlled by any random events but they are there because they are supposed to be. People who are to be avoided will be kept away, not by conscious thought and action by the person doing the sadhana, but by that divine grace itself. For the rest who come into contact with the sadhaka/sadhvi, they are there because they should be there. Duty of the sadhaka/sadhvi is to be with them and share the grace as much as GRACE wants to be transmitted. There is nothing that can be done by limiting personal contacts etc. There is nothing of one's own to be given and shared - meaning what has been given is not for you alone. Only thing that is one's own is the responsibility to do sadhana. kAyEna vAcA manasEndhriyairvA budhdhyathmanA vA prakruthe swabAvAth karomiyadhyath sakalam parasmai nArayanayEthi samarpayAmi. (Whatever I do with my body, speech, mind, karma, jnana, by nature, all I submit to paramapurusha Sri Narayana) This is a typical samarpaNam at the end of sandhyavandhanam which mainly consists of GAyathri japa. This is also stated in Verse 27 of Soundarya Lahari, where it says, " Whatever one does, it is an act of worshipping Devi. " That is one step higher than the sloka quoted above, which in essence deals with sadhaka and the Divine as two different entities. So as a shaktha, why would one worry about self? , sankara menon <kochu1tz wrote: > > Noooooooooo it is very important. Thats why the eskimos greet by rubbing nose > > > durgangam <durgangam wrote: > I really would not worry about " losing out " on any energy that > I've " gained " during sadhana by shaking other people's hands. First, > as DB says, why would you want to keep the fruits of your sadhana to > yourself? To be ego-centric aboout the gains of sadhana defeats the > very purpose of sadhana; is that not so? > > Second, we would all agree that the energy we gain from our sadhana > is divine, and not mechanical. Any form of sincere sadhana opens us > up to divine grace, which then flows in us and through us > constantly. Divine Grace is not a tap that can run dry. So long one > is receptive, it flows through ceaselessly. Sadhaks are but divine > instruments. When you shake hands with a person, do not think of it > as expending " your " energy: it is not yours and it is not limited. > Sadhana does not end when you finish doing your jaap or meditation: > it is a continuous process. Be Her instrument and let Her flow > through you to all Her children. > > , Shankari Kali > <shankari_kali@> wrote: > > > > Namaste Vikrant: > > > > I have a job where I have to shake people's hands, and it just > simply is not customary here to do namaskar. > > > > Vikrant, can you explain a bit more about why people who do jap > should not shake hands with others. > > > > Shanti Om! > > Shankari > > > > Vikrant <free_for_blue@> wrote: > for all those people who are into any form of daily/routine mantra > jap or any sadhana just avoid shaking thier hands with other people > as much as possible,such people should greet other people thru a > namaskar.i have learnt this secret from a very intelligent > knowledgable guru.thought i share it with u. > > after all knowledge is power.... > > > > Vikrant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 8, 2008 Namaste: Thank you both for sharing these posts. It makes absolute sense, and I agree with you 100%. Shanti Om, Shankari ganpra <ganpra wrote: Dwelling more on Divine Grace aspect stated by DB: Generally, it is said that those in the company of shakthas are protected. And shakthas or for that matter anyone gifted with divine grace of ability to do sadhana are warned subconsciously to the bad vibes existing in the environment. Also, those who get into physical contact and/or close proximity of those who perform sadhanas are not controlled by any random events but they are there because they are supposed to be. People who are to be avoided will be kept away, not by conscious thought and action by the person doing the sadhana, but by that divine grace itself. [....] So as a shaktha, why would one worry about self? - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 8, 2008 yeah, I wonder why my Guru doesnt know this stuff... ganpra wrote: Dwelling more on Divine Grace aspect stated by DB: Generally, it is said that those in the company of shakthas are protected. [....] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 8, 2008 because he has not been to North pole. I tried the nose rubbing stuff and my conservative algerian colleague slapped me. RACHEL GARCIA <omshantii wrote: yeah, I wonder why my Guru doesnt know this stuff... ganpra wrote: Dwelling more on Divine Grace aspect stated by DB: Generally, it is said that those in the company of shakthas are protected. [....] Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 8, 2008 Maybe we should start with the famous hand greetings : nanu! nanu!... now which TV programme was this... , sankara menon <kochu1tz wrote: > > because he has not been to North pole. I tried the nose rubbing stuff and my conservative algerian colleague slapped me. > > RACHEL GARCIA <omshantii wrote: yeah, I wonder why my Guru doesnt know this stuff... > > ganpra wrote: > > Dwelling more on Divine Grace aspect stated by DB: Generally, it is said that those in the company of shakthas are protected. [....] > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 8, 2008 " Be Her instrument and let Her flow through you to all Her children. " Wow, this about sums it up! Now LIVING it is of course the point. With Her grace no doubt it is of course possible. And the rest, as a spiritual teacher I know in a different tradition might put it, can be left to the province of the " ritual experts. " There are alas many of those. Jai Ma! - " sankara menon " <kochu1tz Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:16 AM Re: Re: avoiding shaking hands > Noooooooooo it is very important. Thats why the eskimos greet by rubbing nose > > > durgangam <durgangam wrote: > I really would not worry about " losing out " on any energy that > I've " gained " during sadhana by shaking other people's hands. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 8, 2008 That would be " Mork and Mindy " with Robin Williams and Pam Dawber. Interestingly, the Nanu gesture is the same as the Vulcan hand salute (turned sideways) accompanying the phrase " live long and prosper " from StarTrek, which itself is derivative of a Hebrew hand gesture (mudra) indicating the letter Shin, or the Fire of Spirit -very similar to the Kundalini- used as a sign of blessing. namaste Cliff - NMadasamy Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:32 PM Re: avoiding shaking hands Maybe we should start with the famous hand greetings : nanu! nanu!... now which TV programme was this... , sankara menon <kochu1tz wrote: > > because he has not been to North pole. I tried the nose rubbing stuff and my conservative algerian colleague slapped me. > > RACHEL GARCIA <omshantii wrote: yeah, I wonder why my Guru doesnt know this stuff... > > ganpra wrote: > > Dwelling more on Divine Grace aspect stated by DB: Generally, it is said that those in the company of shakthas are protected. [....] > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 9, 2008 While visiting places of worship and viewing the Deities or after meeting a elderly or a respected person our hands are automatically joined together in Namaskar. Namaskar is a Sattva predominant impression on the Hindu mind, an action that maintains the rich heritage of Hindu culture. Namaskar is a simple and beautiful act of expression of divine qualities like devotion, love, respect and humility that endows one with Divine energy. Nowadays, perhaps due to ignorance about the Science of Spirituality or the increasing influence of the western culture, many people shake hands. Why is it not appropriate to shake hands? A Hand Shake tranfers undesirable raja-tama components! In short, in a handshake, the raja-tama components in one person will get transferred to the other person, thereby lowering his sattvikta (Purity levels). While practicing Spirituality, our objective is to perform acts which increase our sattvikta. If at all they do Namaskar by joining their palms, it is done just as a formality. As the act is not based on faith, the benefit derived from it is minimal. Along with faith it is essential that every religious act be correctly performed according to the Science of Spirituality, so that it gives complete benefit. When meeting someone of the same age-group, do Namaskar by joining the fingers and placing tips of the thumbs on the Anahat chakra (at the centre of the chest). This type of Namaskar increases the spiritual emotion of humility in the embodied soul. Sattva frequencies from the universe are attracted by the fingers (which act as an antenna) and are then transmitted to the entire body through the thumbs which have awakened the Anahat chakra. This activates the soul energy of the embodied soul. In addition, by doing Namaskar in this manner to each other, frequencies of blessings are also transmitted. (Reference: Sanatan's Publication - 'The Correct Methods of doing Namaskar') Love, light & peace... Kumar ================================================ C. P. KUMAR Scientist 'E1' National Institute of Hydrology Jal Vigyan Bhawan Roorkee - 247667 (Uttarakhand) INDIA Web Page : http://www.angelfire.com/nh/cpkumar/ ================================================ Unfold the Goddess Within: Shambhavi/ ================================================ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 9, 2008 Aha! now the whole thing make sense..... LOL So that is..... this will be SS official greetings : Nanu! Nanu! , " Cliff " <numinae wrote: > > That would be " Mork and Mindy " with Robin Williams and Pam Dawber. > > Interestingly, the Nanu gesture is the same as the Vulcan hand salute (turned sideways) accompanying the phrase " live long and prosper " from StarTrek, which itself is derivative of a Hebrew hand gesture (mudra) indicating the letter Shin, or the Fire of Spirit - very similar to the Kundalini- used as a sign of blessing. > > namaste > Cliff > > > - > NMadasamy > > Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:32 PM > Re: avoiding shaking hands > > > Maybe we should start with the famous hand greetings : nanu! > nanu!... > > now which TV programme was this... > > , sankara menon <kochu1tz@> > wrote: > > > > because he has not been to North pole. I tried the nose rubbing > stuff and my conservative algerian colleague slapped me. > > > > RACHEL GARCIA <omshantii@> wrote: yeah, I wonder why > my Guru doesnt know this stuff... > > > > ganpra@ wrote: > > > > Dwelling more on Divine Grace aspect stated by DB: Generally, it > is said that those in the company of shakthas are protected. [....] > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 9, 2008 Okay people, I can clear this up completely. It is flu season. Stop shaking hands because of the germs, and wash hands frequently. Please pass me the tissues, I should have taken my own advice! Namaste (with hands together!) pr , " NMadasamy " <nmadasamy wrote: > > Aha! now the whole thing make sense..... LOL > > So that is..... this will be SS official greetings : Nanu! Nanu! > > > > , " Cliff " <numinae@> wrote: > > > > That would be " Mork and Mindy " with Robin Williams and Pam Dawber. > > > > Interestingly, the Nanu gesture is the same as the Vulcan hand > salute (turned sideways) accompanying the phrase " live long and > prosper " from StarTrek, which itself is derivative of a Hebrew hand > gesture (mudra) indicating the letter Shin, or the Fire of Spirit - > very similar to the Kundalini- used as a sign of blessing. > > > > namaste > > Cliff > > > > > > - > > NMadasamy > > > > Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:32 PM > > Re: avoiding shaking hands > > > > > > Maybe we should start with the famous hand greetings : nanu! > > nanu!... > > > > now which TV programme was this... > > > > , sankara menon <kochu1tz@> > > wrote: > > > > > > because he has not been to North pole. I tried the nose > rubbing > > stuff and my conservative algerian colleague slapped me. > > > > > > RACHEL GARCIA <omshantii@> wrote: yeah, I wonder why > > my Guru doesnt know this stuff... > > > > > > ganpra@ wrote: > > > > > > Dwelling more on Divine Grace aspect stated by DB: Generally, > it > > is said that those in the company of shakthas are protected. > [....] > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 9, 2008 Some visual guidence on the greeting - on the right side, half way down this page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mork_and_Mindy , " NMadasamy " <nmadasamy wrote: > > Aha! now the whole thing make sense..... LOL > > So that is..... this will be SS official greetings : Nanu! Nanu! > > > > , " Cliff " <numinae@> wrote: > > > > That would be " Mork and Mindy " with Robin Williams and Pam Dawber. > > > > Interestingly, the Nanu gesture is the same as the Vulcan hand > salute (turned sideways) accompanying the phrase " live long and > prosper " from StarTrek, which itself is derivative of a Hebrew hand > gesture (mudra) indicating the letter Shin, or the Fire of Spirit - > very similar to the Kundalini- used as a sign of blessing. > > > > namaste > > Cliff > > > > > > - > > NMadasamy > > > > Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:32 PM > > Re: avoiding shaking hands > > > > > > Maybe we should start with the famous hand greetings : nanu! > > nanu!... > > > > now which TV programme was this... > > > > , sankara menon <kochu1tz@> > > wrote: > > > > > > because he has not been to North pole. I tried the nose > rubbing > > stuff and my conservative algerian colleague slapped me. > > > > > > RACHEL GARCIA <omshantii@> wrote: yeah, I wonder why > > my Guru doesnt know this stuff... > > > > > > ganpra@ wrote: > > > > > > Dwelling more on Divine Grace aspect stated by DB: Generally, > it > > is said that those in the company of shakthas are protected. > [....] > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 11, 2008 , Vikrant <free_for_blue wrote: > > for all those people who are into any form of daily/routine mantra jap or any sadhana just avoid shaking thier hands with other people as much as possible,such people should greet other people thru a namaskar.i have learnt this secret from a very intelligent knowledgable guru.thought i share it with u. > after all knowledge is power.... > > Vikrant > hello can anyone give me guru japa mantra please thanks regards jaya Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
