Mrityunjaya Stotra & Chandi Homa

[Guest guest]

Namasthe. During the Chandi Homa why is it for these mrityunjaya stotra  only

Ghee is poured in the kunda and offerings of other samagries are prohibited ?

 

regards

 

 

 

 

Ganapathy ---  Vijaya

" Jai Bhavani "

 

--- On Mon, 9/8/08, venkata sriram <sriram_sapthasathi wrote:

 

venkata sriram <sriram_sapthasathi

Mrityunjaya Stotra in Sapthasathi

 

Monday, September 8, 2008, 3:40 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear members,

 

As all aware that Chandi Sapthasati is the Kalpavriksha in Kali Yuga. Wonderful

prayogas are there with Sapthasati. One such prayoga is Mrityunivarana Stotra

which is also called LAGHU KAVACHA STOTRA in Chandi Sapthasati. They are the 4

slokas from 4th Chapter of Sapthasati that are given below:

 

shUlEna pAhinO dEvi ! pAhi khaDgEna chAmbikE

ghanTAsvanEna nah pAhi chApajyAnissvanEna cha……………23

 

prAchyAm raksha pratIchyAm cha chandikE raksha dakshiNE

bhrAmanEnAtma shUlasya uttarasyAm tathEshwari !........... .....24

 

saumyAni yAni rUpAni trailOkyE vicharanti tE

yAni chAtyantaghOrANi tairakshasmAm stathA bhuvam…………….25

 

khaDgashUlagadAdIni yAni chAstrANi tE ambikE

karapallavasangInI tai rasmAn raksha sarvatah…………………26

 

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With regards,

sriram

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear ganapathi,

 

Namaste. Rest of the slokas in sapthasathi are used either for

abhicharika / kamya prayogas during the chandi havana. Whereas

these 4 slokas are exclusively used for atma raksha and moreover

these are jnana pradayini slokas for the upasaka. And hence other

dravyas are not used. Only ghee / payasanna is used with svahakara.

Mother is easily pleased with this dravya and protects Her child

from tapatrayas and bestows the Jnana. Unlike other kamya slokas,

these 4 are jnana pradayini and hence sattvika dravyas are used with

svaha (su+ahava). You are welcoming the Mother and offering the

homa dravyas with humility.

 

Chandi homas are now-a-days reduced to very pitiable condition with

just mechanical repeation of " svaha " , " chamundai idam " & " na mama " .

Svaha is Su+avaha (welcoming the Auspicious Mother to grace us by

accepting the offerings); Chamundai Idam is offering the dravyas to

Mother with Humility; na mama is not mine. This entire process of

homa should be done with nisvartha bhava - a sense of offering of

oneself at the feet of Mother.

 

With regards,

sriram

 

namah chandikAyai...

 

, ganapathy = = vijaya

<srividya101 wrote:

>

> Namasthe. During the Chandi Homa why is it for these mrityunjaya

stotra  only Ghee is poured in the kunda and offerings of other

samagries are prohibited ?

>  

> regards

>

>

>

>

> Ganapathy ---  Vijaya

> " Jai Bhavani "

>

> --- On Mon, 9/8/08, venkata sriram <sriram_sapthasathi wrote:

>

> venkata sriram <sriram_sapthasathi

> Mrityunjaya Stotra in Sapthasathi

>

> Monday, September 8, 2008, 3:40 AM

Dear members,

>

> As all aware that Chandi Sapthasati is the Kalpavriksha in Kali

Yuga. Wonderful prayogas are there with Sapthasati. One such prayoga

is Mrityunivarana Stotra which is also called LAGHU KAVACHA STOTRA

in Chandi Sapthasati. They are the 4 slokas from 4th Chapter of

Sapthasati that are given below:

>

> shUlEna pAhinO dEvi ! pAhi khaDgEna chAmbikE

> ghanTAsvanEna nah pAhi chApajyAnissvanEna cha……………23

>

> prAchyAm raksha pratIchyAm cha chandikE raksha dakshiNE

> bhrAmanEnAtma shUlasya uttarasyAm tathEshwari !........... .....24

>

> saumyAni yAni rUpAni trailOkyE vicharanti tE

> yAni chAtyantaghOrANi tairakshasmAm stathA bhuvam…………….25

>

> khaDgashUlagadAdIni yAni chAstrANi tE ambikE

> karapallavasangInI tai rasmAn raksha sarvatah…………………26

>

> //********** ****//

>

> With regards,

> sriram

>

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Dear Di9vine Brothers,

 

It is really strange that people are using chandi saptasathi for doing havan.

Probably people are aware that storas and navalis are not to be done as havan

and many people do havan with vishnu sahasranama, lalitha sahasranama, which are

not permitted.

 

Logicaly, chandi saptasathi is slokas narrating the various instances of nigraha

as well as praising the Devi and praying to her. How then these can be used for

chandi homa. To my knowledge there is no authentic proof allowing the chandi

saptasathi to be done as havan. Can any one throw light on the same.

 

I therefore follow doing the havan using the mula mantra only, and the

saptasathi parayanam is done by people chanting the same continuously during the

havan. There have been instances where 100,000 avarthis of chandi has been done

this way and the entire atmosphere was charged with total divinity.

 

Further only for kamya prayoga and to please the pitru devatas, many items are

offered in the fire. No mention is made to offer plastic items, sarees, haldi,

kumkum and other items into the fire, wasting a lot of wood to burn them and the

ghee which could have otherwise been used to feed the poor. Chandi is a

powerful media to attain moksha and relates to the soul of the upasaka and not

the body and mind. One has therefore to go beyond the body and mind and offer

only fallen twigs and ghee for doing havan. Even for poornahuthi I offer only

one twig and a little ghee.

I am sure divine people will appreciate.

Regards,

S.SHANGARANARAYANAN

 

 

 

: sriram_sapthasathi: Mon, 8 Sep

2008 13:34:47 +0000 Re: Mrityunjaya Stotra & Chandi Homa

 

 

 

 

Dear ganapathi,Namaste. Rest of the slokas in sapthasathi are used either for

abhicharika / kamya prayogas during the chandi havana. Whereas these 4 slokas

are exclusively used for atma raksha and moreover these are jnana pradayini

slokas for the upasaka. And hence

[Guest guest]

Respected sir,

 

Then, does this mean that the several Chandika mahayagams performed

in the Kanchi Srimatam and Sringeri Sarada Peetam, under the divine

auspices of the Acharya Swamigals are different from the prescribed

regulations? Or do they follow a different paddathi?

 

Kindly clarify.

 

Regards,

Karthik

 

 

, S Sangaranarayanan <sangarsai

wrote:

>

> Dear Di9vine Brothers,

>

> It is really strange that people are using chandi saptasathi for

doing havan. Probably people are aware that storas and navalis are

not to be done as havan and many people do havan with vishnu

sahasranama, lalitha sahasranama, which are not permitted.

>

> Logicaly, chandi saptasathi is slokas narrating the various

instances of nigraha as well as praising the Devi and praying to

her. How then these can be used for chandi homa. To my knowledge

there is no authentic proof allowing the chandi saptasathi to be

done as havan. Can any one throw light on the same.

>

> I therefore follow doing the havan using the mula mantra only, and

the saptasathi parayanam is done by people chanting the same

continuously during the havan. There have been instances where

100,000 avarthis of chandi has been done this way and the entire

atmosphere was charged with total divinity.

>

> Further only for kamya prayoga and to please the pitru devatas,

many items are offered in the fire. No mention is made to offer

plastic items, sarees, haldi, kumkum and other items into the fire,

wasting a lot of wood to burn them and the ghee which could have

otherwise been used to feed the poor. Chandi is a powerful media to

attain moksha and relates to the soul of the upasaka and not the

body and mind. One has therefore to go beyond the body and mind and

offer only fallen twigs and ghee for doing havan. Even for

poornahuthi I offer only one twig and a little ghee.

> I am sure divine people will appreciate.

> Regards,

> S.SHANGARANARAYANAN

>

>

>

> : sriram_sapthasathi: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:34:47

+0000 Re: Mrityunjaya Stotra & Chandi Homa

>

>

>

>

> Dear ganapathi,Namaste. Rest of the slokas in sapthasathi are used

either for abhicharika / kamya prayogas during the chandi havana.

Whereas these 4 slokas are exclusively used for atma raksha and

moreover these are jnana pradayini slokas for the upasaka. And hence

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sirs,

 

Kindly excuse me for intervening in your discussion of such a serious

and important subject.I am a noivice and do not know the various

practices prevalant.

 

I request you to go through the commentaries of Gupthavathi and

Nagojibhatti for DeviMahathmyam.They explain the various practices in a

more lucid and convincing language the procedure for ChandiHomam as

well.

 

There is nothing wrong if Durga Saptha shathi mantrams are used in

Chandi Homam.It is potent.

 

If you provide some other authority,I will be able to go through it and

change my view if need be.Please do not get offended for my

request.Thanking you.

 

N.S.VenkataSubramanian

, " karthikvathula " <karthikvathula

wrote:

>

> Respected sir,

>

> Then, does this mean that the several Chandika mahayagams performed

> in the Kanchi Srimatam and Sringeri Sarada Peetam, under the divine

> auspices of the Acharya Swamigals are different from the prescribed

> regulations? Or do they follow a different paddathi?

>

> Kindly clarify.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear sadhakas

Namaste

As far as the inputs given to us

chandi saptasati is a mantra pata to be more precise its a GADYA

MANTRA (Mantra in prose)

 

Yadha Asvemedha krtushu devanam cha yatha hari

stavanamapi sarvesham tatha saptasati stavah

Damara tantra

 

in kratuvu its Asvamedha in gods its vishnu its CHANDI SAPTASATI in stavas

 

For every mantra we have to do purascharana and after completion of

the count of purascharana homa is performed that applies even to

chandi saptasati .

 

There are kalpas for doing chandi homa sata chandi and sahasra chandi

yaga also with different dravyas according to dakshinachara and gouda

achara and different dravyas are mentioned for special attainments also.

 

 

of course Eco friendly homas should be encouraged. But dravyas in a

homa are not wastage this was proved by a research of homa conducted

by gayatri parivar and they named it as yagnopathy (just like

allopathy or homeopathy) and the fumes changed according to the

dravyas in the homa.

 

namaste

Diwakar

 

 

, S Sangaranarayanan <sangarsai wrote:

>

> Dear Di9vine Brothers,

>

> It is really strange that people are using chandi saptasathi for

doing havan. Probably people are aware that storas and navalis are not

to be done as havan and many people do havan with vishnu sahasranama,

lalitha sahasranama, which are not permitted.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Divine,

 

Thanks.

Please execuse me if I do not agree with the views. According to my personal

view all the havans conducted with saptasathi is a process introduced by vaidiks

and not upasakas and such a procedure is a late insertion by vested interests.

Every mantra is a prose and there is no exception. But saptasathi cannot be

called a mantra. Even Lalitha trisathi is built on the basis of panchadasi

mantra but it is not to be used for doing havan. Divine Chandi is therefore to

be worshipped in the form of havan with moola mantra only. There cannot be two

rules for lalitha sahasranama/trisathi or chandi saptasathi.

Offering dravyas are totally for personal ends and not spiritual ends. There is

no prescription for purascharana for chandi saptasathi as is applicable to the

moola mantras.

 

Some of the acharya peetams are doing saptasathi chanting with chandi homam of

the verses, and I do not agree with their views. I am prepared to change my

views if any one can provide authentic proof that the prescription for doing

chandi saptasathi havan is there.

Regarding dravyas, when unnecessary offerings are put in the fire, they produce

so much air pollution and affects the environment. God is simple and the way to

reach Her should also be simple. If the Dravyas are a must, then it means poor

people cannot do chandi homam. I object to that strongly, because every person,

without caste, creed, colour, religion, region etc., should be able to do the

havan in the simplest way to attain salvation. Why should the prohits insist on

such dravyas, because they are incapable of transmitting the energy of Chandi

and Her power to the people who have the problem to come out - whether material

or spiritual. People do chandi havan without caring for attainment, but only as

a routine to attract people and make money.

 

Kindly execuse me for this strong condemnation. I am not at all against havans

but they should be as simple as our Rishis followed using only fallen twigs from

the trees and a little bit of ghee. Did these rishis had sarees, bangles, haldi,

kumkum, all sorts of edibles etc., to offer into their havan. NO. They were

specific in their goal to achieve the highest order and they did not waste their

time to spend their time to collect these offerings. They understood clearly

that the agani itself became divine energy into which they offered their own

soul energy and to keep the fire burning, they offered a little of ghee and some

twigs.

 

Regards,

S.SHANGARANARAYANAN

 

 

 

: diwakarvlg: Tue, 9 Sep 2008

10:49:27 +0000 Re: Mrityunjaya Stotra & Chandi Homa

 

 

 

 

Dear sadhakasNamasteAs far as the inputs given to uschandi saptasati is a mantra

pata to be more precise its a GADYAMANTRA (Mantra in prose)Yadha Asvemedha

krtushu devanam cha yatha haristavanamapi sarvesham tatha saptasati stavahDamara

tantrain kratuvu its Asvamedha in gods its vishnu its CHANDI SAPTASATI in

stavasFor every mantra we have to do purascharana and after completion ofthe

count of purascharana homa is performed that applies even tochandi saptasati

..There are kalpas for doing chandi homa sata chandi and sahasra chandiyaga also

with different dravyas according to dakshinachara and goudaachara and different

dravyas are mentioned for special attainments also.of course Eco friendly homas

should be encouraged. But dravyas in ahoma are not wastage this was proved by a

research of homa conductedby gayatri parivar and they named it as yagnopathy

(just likeallopathy or homeopathy) and the fumes changed according to thedravyas

in the homa.namasteDiwakar , S Sangaranarayanan

<sangarsai wrote:>> Dear Di9vine Brothers,> > It is really strange that

people are using chandi saptasathi fordoing havan. Probably people are aware

that storas and navalis are notto be done as havan and many people do havan with

vishnu sahasranama,lalitha sahasranama, which are not permitted.> >

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Divine,

I am of the opinion that the procedure is relative to prohits and not

spiritualists. Many acharyas follow their own way and it cannot be construed

that they are universally accepted.

I am not at all offended, as I am still a learner and would like enlightenment

on this subject to my fullest acceptance.

In a recent havan for maha ganapathy, people very big modhakam as big as 50

kilos and the entire atmosphere became dense with smoke, and none of the

participants were able to breathe, chant the mantra or even conduct the

poornahuthi perfectly. Do you agree with this type of havan in order to attract

people and not divine energy. If Ganapathy can accept only very big modak then

He is not within the reach of common upasakas.

Let us concentrate to acquire the total divine energy which is beyond all these

rituals. Rituals bind the body and mind.

Please execuse me for this writing.

Regards,

S.SHANGARANARAYANAN

 

 

 

: babu193520032003: Tue, 9 Sep 2008

09:33:24 +0000 Re: Mrityunjaya Stotra & Chandi Homa

 

 

 

 

Dear Sirs,Kindly excuse me for intervening in your discussion of such a

seriousand important subject.I am a noivice and do not know the variouspractices

prevalant.I request you to go through the commentaries of Gupthavathi

andNagojibhatti for DeviMahathmyam.They explain the various practices in amore

lucid and convincing language the procedure for ChandiHomam aswell.There is

nothing wrong if Durga Saptha shathi mantrams are used inChandi Homam.It is

potent.If you provide some other authority,I will be able to go through it

andchange my view if need be.Please do not get offended for myrequest.Thanking

you.N.S.VenkataSubramanian , " karthikvathula "

<karthikvathulawrote:>> Respected sir,>> Then, does this mean that the

several Chandika mahayagams performed> in the Kanchi Srimatam and Sringeri

Sarada Peetam, under the divine> auspices of the Acharya Swamigals are different

from the prescribed> regulations? Or do they follow a different paddathi?>>

Kindly clarify.>

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear sankarnarayan,

 

Namaste.

 

As per sringeri and other pramana pitas, the Chandi Homa implies the

Homa with Devi Mahatmyam. That is what is said in 12th chapter of

Chandi. Moreover, during the Chandi Homa, Navakshari is just a anga

mantra. Importance is given ONLY TO SAPTHASATI (700 slokas) in

Sringeri. The vedic sacrificial jargons like Swaha, Vashat, Vaushat,

Astusroushat when added to sloka become on par with Vedic Mantra.

 

In Sringeri, during Homa, Kavacha, Argala, Kilaka, Navakshari are

done as parayana whereas Swahakaras are added to Sapthasathi.

Adhisthana Devata Puja and Pita Devata Nyasa & Puja are performed

and Homa is started with 700 slokas. So, when Shadangas are added

the Sapthasathi becomes a potent mantra. In this case even the

word " RushiruvAcha " also becomes a mahamantra. So, when we

say, " RushiruvAcha swAha " , though the word " RushiruvAcha "

implies " Rishi Said " , it is a Mahamantra and the Havish through

Swahakara reaches the Chandika Parameshwari as per the Sankalpa

performed. For eg., when the vedic mantra " tryambakam

yajamahe ......bandhanAt Swaha " implies and also understood that the

Havish goes to Lord Rudra though Rudra does not appear in this

mantra. Similarly, the Chandi Sapthasathi.

 

Regarding the Charitra and Sloka Homas, Padma Purana refers to the

Srimad Bhagavatha Homa after performing Bhagavata SapthAha.

 

Now, most important aspect of Chandi Homa is that, the Chandi Homa

done with Sapthasathi is for LOKA KALYANA whereas the Chandi Homa

done with Moola Mantra of Chandinavakshari is only for MANTRA SIDDHI

AND ONLY FOR HIMSELF (NOT FOR LOKAKALYANA) (This is as per the

Chandi Upasaka of Sat-sampradaya). This is also of the view of

Sringeri Acharya.

 

With kind regards,

Sriram

 

Namah Chandikayai....

 

 

 

 

 

, S Sangaranarayanan <sangarsai

wrote:

>

> Dear Di9vine Brothers,

>

> It is really strange that people are using chandi saptasathi for

doing havan. Probably people are aware that storas and navalis are

not to be done as havan and many people do havan with vishnu

sahasranama, lalitha sahasranama, which are not permitted.

>

> Logicaly, chandi saptasathi is slokas narrating the various

instances of nigraha as well as praising the Devi and praying to

her. How then these can be used for chandi homa. To my knowledge

there is no authentic proof allowing the chandi saptasathi to be

done as havan. Can any one throw light on the same.

>

> I therefore follow doing the havan using the mula mantra only, and

the saptasathi parayanam is done by people chanting the same

continuously during the havan. There have been instances where

100,000 avarthis of chandi has been done this way and the entire

atmosphere was charged with total divinity.

>

> Further only for kamya prayoga and to please the pitru devatas,

many items are offered in the fire. No mention is made to offer

plastic items, sarees, haldi, kumkum and other items into the fire,

wasting a lot of wood to burn them and the ghee which could have

otherwise been used to feed the poor. Chandi is a powerful media to

attain moksha and relates to the soul of the upasaka and not the

body and mind. One has therefore to go beyond the body and mind and

offer only fallen twigs and ghee for doing havan. Even for

poornahuthi I offer only one twig and a little ghee.

> I am sure divine people will appreciate.

> Regards,

> S.SHANGARANARAYANAN

>

>

>

> : sriram_sapthasathi: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:34:47

+0000 Re: Mrityunjaya Stotra & Chandi Homa

>

>

>

>

> Dear ganapathi,Namaste. Rest of the slokas in sapthasathi are used

either for abhicharika / kamya prayogas during the chandi havana.

Whereas these 4 slokas are exclusively used for atma raksha and

moreover these are jnana pradayini slokas for the upasaka. And hence

>

[Guest guest]

shri gurubhyo namaH

shri mahAgaNapataye namaH

 

Dear all:

 

If we look at some portions of the text (ref: " Viniyogah " in the Geeta press -

Gorakhpur book and Meharchand Lachmandas Publications book), we will find that

the Prathama, Madhyama and Uttara Charitras of Devi mAhAtmyam are Rig, Yajur and

Saama Veda SvarUpas respectively. (The Shri Ramakrishna Matham book does not

include this portion).

 

Now, I think a prayer can happen in the Vedas too. Descriptive texts can also

happen in the Vedas. So, just because some elements of a text are a prayer or

naama stuti, they are not eliminated from being performed as Homam.

 

Case in point --- There are portions of Shri Rudra Prashnam that are prayers as

well... e.g., " namaste.astu dhanvane baahubhyaam uta te namah " . and " ahIgshcha

sarvaanjambhayantsarvaashcha yaatudhaanyah " , " namo rudrebhyo ye prithivyaam " and

so on. We beseech the Lord not to show his terrible form, but to be merciful and

so on. But, there is no doubt in anyones mind that these passages can be chanted

as Homaanga mantras.

 

It is universally acknowledged that when Devi Mahatmyam is chanted with all of

the Shadangas and mantra maalas, it takes the form of a Mantram. Conversely,

can a Mantram take the form of a Shlokam or Stotram ? Absolutely. I think this

is why all the great people insist that Chandi Homam be done will all of these

additional texts and japams, not just by itself. Because, if chanted by itself

without all of the aforementioned additions, then it is just that ... a set of

shlokas and stotrams.

 

I have no doubt in my mind that the sapthashatii can indeed be performed with

svaahaakaaram, and aajyaahutiis, as Homam, subject to the caveat that it MUST be

performed with all pUrva bhAga japams and stotram as well as uttara bhaaga

japams and stotrams. Without these additions, it is not a complete ChanDI

Homam. Additionally, DevI mAhAtmyam is chanted " mantra sampuTitam " during the

Homam.

 

Thanks and Regards.

KR.

 

shrI mAtre namaH

 

 

 

 

 

-

sriram

Tuesday, September 09, 2008 12:13 PM

Re: Mrityunjaya Stotra & Chandi Homa

 

 

Dear sankarnarayan,

 

Namaste.

 

As per sringeri and other pramana pitas, the Chandi Homa implies the

Homa with Devi Mahatmyam. That is what is said in 12th chapter of

Chandi. Moreover, during the Chandi Homa, Navakshari is just a anga

mantra. Importance is given ONLY TO SAPTHASATI (700 slokas) in

Sringeri. The vedic sacrificial jargons like Swaha, Vashat, Vaushat,

Astusroushat when added to sloka become on par with Vedic Mantra.

 

In Sringeri, during Homa, Kavacha, Argala, Kilaka, Navakshari are

done as parayana whereas Swahakaras are added to Sapthasathi.

Adhisthana Devata Puja and Pita Devata Nyasa & Puja are performed

and Homa is started with 700 slokas. So, when Shadangas are added

the Sapthasathi becomes a potent mantra. In this case even the

word " RushiruvAcha " also becomes a mahamantra. So, when we

say, " RushiruvAcha swAha " , though the word " RushiruvAcha "

implies " Rishi Said " , it is a Mahamantra and the Havish through

Swahakara reaches the Chandika Parameshwari as per the Sankalpa

performed. For eg., when the vedic mantra " tryambakam

yajamahe ......bandhanAt Swaha " implies and also understood that the

Havish goes to Lord Rudra though Rudra does not appear in this

mantra. Similarly, the Chandi Sapthasathi.

 

Regarding the Charitra and Sloka Homas, Padma Purana refers to the

Srimad Bhagavatha Homa after performing Bhagavata SapthAha.

 

Now, most important aspect of Chandi Homa is that, the Chandi Homa

done with Sapthasathi is for LOKA KALYANA whereas the Chandi Homa

done with Moola Mantra of Chandinavakshari is only for MANTRA SIDDHI

AND ONLY FOR HIMSELF (NOT FOR LOKAKALYANA) (This is as per the

Chandi Upasaka of Sat-sampradaya). This is also of the view of

Sringeri Acharya.

 

With kind regards,

Sriram

 

Namah Chandikayai....

 

, S Sangaranarayanan <sangarsai

wrote:

>

> Dear Di9vine Brothers,

>

> It is really strange that people are using chandi saptasathi for

doing havan. Probably people are aware that storas and navalis are

not to be done as havan and many people do havan with vishnu

sahasranama, lalitha sahasranama, which are not permitted.

>

> Logicaly, chandi saptasathi is slokas narrating the various

instances of nigraha as well as praising the Devi and praying to

her. How then these can be used for chandi homa. To my knowledge

there is no authentic proof allowing the chandi saptasathi to be

done as havan. Can any one throw light on the same.

>

> I therefore follow doing the havan using the mula mantra only, and

the saptasathi parayanam is done by people chanting the same

continuously during the havan. There have been instances where

100,000 avarthis of chandi has been done this way and the entire

atmosphere was charged with total divinity.

>

> Further only for kamya prayoga and to please the pitru devatas,

many items are offered in the fire. No mention is made to offer

plastic items, sarees, haldi, kumkum and other items into the fire,

wasting a lot of wood to burn them and the ghee which could have

otherwise been used to feed the poor. Chandi is a powerful media to

attain moksha and relates to the soul of the upasaka and not the

body and mind. One has therefore to go beyond the body and mind and

offer only fallen twigs and ghee for doing havan. Even for

poornahuthi I offer only one twig and a little ghee.

> I am sure divine people will appreciate.

> Regards,

> S.SHANGARANARAYANAN

>

>

>

> : sriram_sapthasathi: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:34:47

+0000 Re: Mrityunjaya Stotra & Chandi Homa

>

>

>

>

> Dear ganapathi,Namaste. Rest of the slokas in sapthasathi are used

either for abhicharika / kamya prayogas during the chandi havana.

Whereas these 4 slokas are exclusively used for atma raksha and

moreover these are jnana pradayini slokas for the upasaka. And hence

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

just like the Lalita sahasranamam, the Chandi also has coded mantras in it and

is not just a story which is why it stands apart from the rest of the pauranic

stories on Durga/Ambaal etc.. its use for homam is detailed in Katyayani or

Damara tantra? .

 

but I do agree that there is a proliferation of homams, I do not find any

pramanas for Vishnu Sahasranama homam or Gita homam (except for the 13 chapter)

 

Dear Sriram,

The phalam of the homam is based on the sankalpam, so Loka kalyanam is true only

if the sankalpam is for that, hence Chandi can be used for kaamya/aabhichaarika

prayogas as well as lokakshemam and also mukti, case in point being Suratan

chooses bhogam and Samaadhi chooses Mukti

 

That being said, most samashti homams conducted by the Mathas such as Sringeri

and Kanchi are for loka kalyanam

 

regards

vishwam

 

 

 

 

sriram <sriram_sapthasathi

 

Tuesday, September 9, 2008 12:13:00 PM

Re: Mrityunjaya Stotra & Chandi Homa

 

 

Dear sankarnarayan,

 

Namaste.

 

As per sringeri and other pramana pitas, the Chandi Homa implies the

Homa with Devi Mahatmyam. That is what is said in 12th chapter of

Chandi. Moreover, during the Chandi Homa, Navakshari is just a anga

mantra. Importance is given ONLY TO SAPTHASATI (700 slokas) in

Sringeri. The vedic sacrificial jargons like Swaha, Vashat, Vaushat,

Astusroushat when added to sloka become on par with Vedic Mantra.

 

In Sringeri, during Homa, Kavacha, Argala, Kilaka, Navakshari are

done as parayana whereas Swahakaras are added to Sapthasathi.

Adhisthana Devata Puja and Pita Devata Nyasa & Puja are performed

and Homa is started with 700 slokas. So, when Shadangas are added

the Sapthasathi becomes a potent mantra. In this case even the

word " RushiruvAcha " also becomes a mahamantra. So, when we

say, " RushiruvAcha swAha " , though the word " RushiruvAcha "

implies " Rishi Said " , it is a Mahamantra and the Havish through

Swahakara reaches the Chandika Parameshwari as per the Sankalpa

performed. For eg., when the vedic mantra " tryambakam

yajamahe ......bandhanAt Swaha " implies and also understood that the

Havish goes to Lord Rudra though Rudra does not appear in this

mantra. Similarly, the Chandi Sapthasathi.

 

Regarding the Charitra and Sloka Homas, Padma Purana refers to the

Srimad Bhagavatha Homa after performing Bhagavata SapthAha.

 

Now, most important aspect of Chandi Homa is that, the Chandi Homa

done with Sapthasathi is for LOKA KALYANA whereas the Chandi Homa

done with Moola Mantra of Chandinavakshari is only for MANTRA SIDDHI

AND ONLY FOR HIMSELF (NOT FOR LOKAKALYANA) (This is as per the

Chandi Upasaka of Sat-sampradaya) . This is also of the view of

Sringeri Acharya.

 

With kind regards,

Sriram

 

Namah Chandikayai. ...

 

@ .com, S Sangaranarayanan <sangarsai@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Dear Di9vine Brothers,

>

> It is really strange that people are using chandi saptasathi for

doing havan. Probably people are aware that storas and navalis are

not to be done as havan and many people do havan with vishnu

sahasranama, lalitha sahasranama, which are not permitted.

>

> Logicaly, chandi saptasathi is slokas narrating the various

instances of nigraha as well as praising the Devi and praying to

her. How then these can be used for chandi homa. To my knowledge

there is no authentic proof allowing the chandi saptasathi to be

done as havan. Can any one throw light on the same.

>

> I therefore follow doing the havan using the mula mantra only, and

the saptasathi parayanam is done by people chanting the same

continuously during the havan. There have been instances where

100,000 avarthis of chandi has been done this way and the entire

atmosphere was charged with total divinity.

>

> Further only for kamya prayoga and to please the pitru devatas,

many items are offered in the fire. No mention is made to offer

plastic items, sarees, haldi, kumkum and other items into the fire,

wasting a lot of wood to burn them and the ghee which could have

otherwise been used to feed the poor. Chandi is a powerful media to

attain moksha and relates to the soul of the upasaka and not the

body and mind. One has therefore to go beyond the body and mind and

offer only fallen twigs and ghee for doing havan. Even for

poornahuthi I offer only one twig and a little ghee.

> I am sure divine people will appreciate.

> Regards,

> S.SHANGARANARAYANAN

>

>

>

> : sriram_sapthasathi@ ...: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:34:47

+0000 Re: Mrityunjaya Stotra & Chandi Homa

>

>

>

>

> Dear ganapathi,Namaste. Rest of the slokas in sapthasathi are used

either for abhicharika / kamya prayogas during the chandi havana.

Whereas these 4 slokas are exclusively used for atma raksha and

moreover these are jnana pradayini slokas for the upasaka. And hence

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear all,

 

 

1. Scripture says " YaGyna mukhaa vai devaah " - Yagyna or homa is the

mukha ( mouth) ofdevatas.

 

Whatever we are offering in Yagyna is nothing but offering in the

mouth of devas.

 

Again as per shastras, Yagyna with recitation of mantras pleases the

deity.

 

Saptashati is also a MALA MANTRA , when we are chanting along with

sadanga.

 

So no issues when we are offering Ahutis with saptashati mala mantra.

 

I do remember ,one of the article published by " KAULA KALPATARU CHANDI " ,

 

Clearly mentions " KATYAYANI TANTRA " as pramana for Shaptashati Homa ,

it also mentions not to include the kavacha shlokas from fourth and

eleventh chapter.

 

Anybody having access to KATYAYANI TANTRA , can refer.

 

Also, when we are doing purascharana of any mala mantra, we have to follow

 

" Japo homaH tarpanaM cha maarjanaM

 

panchaangaM karmarupaM tadaayuH kechana tava tu "

 

 

so both cases HOMA with malamantras allowed as per SHASTRA PRAMANA.

Shaptashati ,Shri Lalitha divya nama sahasraM , Vishnu sahasranam are

malamantras . So any upasaka can go ahead with Homa with above

malamantras.

 

 

2. Why we are thinking buring woods with ghee is waste during havan ??

 

ANS - Already brother diwakar gave a nice example about Gayatri parivara.

 

Havan is having its own effect. We shouldn't minimize its glory with

such statement.

 

Since, " YaGyna mukhaa vai devaah " - So if we believe in god and have

 

Devotion, then we should not think that wasting of ghee etc.

 

If this is the case, why should we offer flower to Vigraha, why to

offer food

 

to lord as prasada. Simply we have to discard all these things, as god

wont accept it in Physical form.

 

I remember a statement from Adorable " Harsha ramamurthy " of

Kamakoti mandali that either follow the scripture to its full extent

(or) don't follow. We can't choose a

 

New path based on our own preferences " .

 

2a. Similar case applicable for offering sarees and other mangal

dravyas during Purnahuti .

 

Here also our bhavana is Mother standing in mid of the Homa agni and

accepting our

 

Prayers and havyas during yagyna and after purnahuti, she will enter

into Hritkamala of the sadhaka .

 

As per laukika achara , whenever a sumangali lady stays with their

parents/ brothers/ Relatives and when She leaves from that place, Her

parents offer her new clothes etc

 

simillary , after purnahuti , we will do udvasana and will take our

beloved mother back

 

to our Hritkamala. So can't we offer a saree during that time? What's

wrong with that..

 

all sadhana depends on Bhavanas , only with bhava , we are offering

all the upacharas.

 

If no bhava, no upachara required, we can simply discard everything.

 

 

3. Why can't we feed Poor persons??

 

- Feeding poor, serving and helping them is the real sadhana.

 

sure , we can feed Poors but with what cost ?

 

I have much more better ideas, that help all ashtikas to feed/help

poor persons..

 

a. Why we spend some much money on our daily meals , simply we can eat

one cup of rice with curd /sambar/ dal and the money we save from this

can be used to feed Poor pesons.

 

b. Why we need A.C in our Home, its mere Luxury items ( use Fan) .

Due to this, we are paying heavy current bills. STOP USING AC in home,

we will save money and that we can use for poor feeding.

 

 

c. Why to drive four wheeler vehicles spending so much money on

Diesel/ Petrol, Use state

 

govt buses, here also we will save lot more money and that we can use

for poor feeding.

 

 

d. Why to buy branded clothes paying more money , simply we can go for

cheap clothes. Here also we can save money and that we can use for

poor feeding.

 

 

e. Why to go abroad spending such huge money on travel expanse, Here

also we can save money and that we can use for poor feeding.

 

There are lot more ideas, where we can cut down our expenditures and

can be utilised

 

for helping and serving poor persons, which is really a noble cause.

 

STOP cutting down the small things on our Puja, instead of this,

please concentrate on my above points, we can serve poor in better ways.

Don't think that by offering few kgs of GHEE/ Saree etc, we are doing

a great service

 

to parabrahma mahishi maa chandika .. Its all upto the bhavana..after

all she is

 

" Bhakivasya / bhavanagamya "

 

and what we are going to get ..

 

hmmm.. now its time for result --> smile please

 

 

She Says " YAM YAM CHINTAYET KAMAM, TAM TAM PRAPNOTI NISCHITAM " ---

 

Hey, she is giving a blank cheque; u can fill what ever you

want - Hurry up.

 

She also says " krushnayaM vaa chaturdasyaM asthamyaM vaa samahitaH

 

dadati parighrunati naanyathaiSA prasidati "

 

See how karunamayi is she .. she don't want to take the offering with

her .

 

 

She says Dadati ( offering to ambaa ) and prighrunati ( now u take it

back as my

 

prasada). Wow what a deal of our beloved mother, she says, u just

offer it to her

 

and take it as her prasada..

 

 

By mere offering, she is so pleased. No Mother wants to take things

from her Child.

 

Mother knows only to give..

 

JUST OFFER EVERYTHING TO MOTHER AND SHE WILL RETURN ALL THOSE THINGS

BACK AS HER PRASADA

 

try this and see, how we your life will change :-)

 

very very simple sadhana ..

 

TRY THIS OFFER. OFFER VALID FOR EVER AND EVER..

 

JAI MAA..

 

 

 

 

 

, " sriram " <sriram_sapthasathi wrote:

>

> Dear sankarnarayan,

>

> Namaste.

>

> As per sringeri and other pramana pitas, the Chandi Homa implies the

> Homa with Devi Mahatmyam. That is what is said in 12th chapter of

> Chandi. Moreover, during the Chandi Homa, Navakshari is just a anga

> mantra. Importance is given ONLY TO SAPTHASATI (700 slokas) in

> Sringeri. The vedic sacrificial jargons like Swaha, Vashat, Vaushat,

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sadhakas

Namaste

 

Its given in katyani tantra as follows

 

chandi home pratimantra mekaik ahuti rishyate

uvacha mantrahomastu patrapuspairudiritah

 

angaani homayet pancha nishedhaat kavacha ahute

adou chapya argalam hutva tato vyi kilakam hunet

 

ratri suktam tato hutva madhye SAPTASATIM TATAH

devi suktam tato hutva rahasya tritayam hunet

 

maha ahuti sca hotavya prati adhyam pruthak pruthak

tridasa ahuti rupani kapithadini samhunet

 

payasam juhuyan mantri tile shuklyirvi misritam

navarna mantra homam c kuryat ajyena sarvada

 

CHANDI HOMASTU PANCHANGA SCHANDI PATAH SHADANGKAH

CHANDI HOMA E KRAMA HYESHA TANTRE KATYAYANE STITAH

 

Friends this reference is according to katyani tantra and we can also

observe various dravyas mentioned in it. This is only giving a idea

but not to convince anybody

 

for the mentioning of poor people performing havana etc., We can

observe a statement given by so many great people

 

THERE IS NEVER LOW FOR UTAMA UPASAKA

 

More over there is a procedures for bypassing havana and including it

in the Japa itself.

 

Regarding the dravyas . Well there are always examples of what not to

do and they exist in every field. we have to apply viveka blessed by

our gurus and pour dravyas as needed and in sufficient quantitiy

acccording to the procedure Here are some items as examples;-

 

A samidhi is supposed to be 10 inches in length

A Straw (durva etc) four inches

The ghee is given as a spoonfull (sruva)

Paddy, Corn, puffed rice etc hand full

tila,mustard etc pinchfull

pepper (20 nos)appx.

Curds Milk Honey small shell full (alchippa)

flour sugar etc half handfull

jack fruit in 10 parts one piece at a time

flower one at a time

astadha narikelani khanditani vidurbdah

tridhakrutam phalam bilvam kapitham kanditam dvidha

coconut 8 parts one piece at a time, bilvam 3 parts one piece at a

time, sugarcane (cut at every block) one piece at a time

(Please note;- if there are any variations i will be glad to know )

 

Even we are forbidden to give away sarees and bangles in a havana

 

Initially when we were confused we were directed to take experiences

of what to do rather than what not to do. Following the kalpa or

procedure given by the gurus and setting harmonious environment is

what all our gurus say.

 

Namaste

Diwakar

 

Om shantih shantih shantihi

 

 

, S Sangaranarayanan <sangarsai wrote:

>

>

> Dear Divine,

>

> Thanks.

> Please execuse me if I do not agree with the views. According to my

personal view all the havans conducted with saptasathi is a process

[Guest guest]

Namasthe. There is no point comparing the various sampradayas and is simply

waste of time. Our great religion has no strict creeds like other religions --

as Paramahamsa once observed that there are as many ways of realization, as

there are numbers of followers of our culture.

In Srividya upasana particularly, if Guru's directions overrides the sastras,

what would prevail is the Guru's directions and should be strictly complied (

Source From DR. Goda Sastry's lectures)

 

 

 

 

Ganapathy ---  Vijaya

" Jai Bhavani "

 

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, Diwakar N.V.L.G <diwakarvlg wrote:

 

Diwakar N.V.L.G <diwakarvlg

Re: Mrityunjaya Stotra & Chandi Homa

 

Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 3:53 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sadhakas

Namaste

 

Its given in katyani tantra as follows

 

chandi home pratimantra mekaik ahuti rishyate

uvacha mantrahomastu patrapuspairudirita h

 

angaani homayet pancha nishedhaat kavacha ahute

adou chapya argalam hutva tato vyi kilakam hunet

 

ratri suktam tato hutva madhye SAPTASATIM TATAH

devi suktam tato hutva rahasya tritayam hunet

 

maha ahuti sca hotavya prati adhyam pruthak pruthak

tridasa ahuti rupani kapithadini samhunet

 

payasam juhuyan mantri tile shuklyirvi misritam

navarna mantra homam c kuryat ajyena sarvada

 

CHANDI HOMASTU PANCHANGA SCHANDI PATAH SHADANGKAH

CHANDI HOMA E KRAMA HYESHA TANTRE KATYAYANE STITAH

 

Friends this reference is according to katyani tantra and we can also

observe various dravyas mentioned in it. This is only giving a idea

but not to convince anybody

 

for the mentioning of poor people performing havana etc., We can

observe a statement given by so many great people

 

THERE IS NEVER LOW FOR UTAMA UPASAKA

 

More over there is a procedures for bypassing havana and including it

in the Japa itself.

 

Regarding the dravyas . Well there are always examples of what not to

do and they exist in every field. we have to apply viveka blessed by

our gurus and pour dravyas as needed and in sufficient quantitiy

acccording to the procedure Here are some items as examples;-

 

A samidhi is supposed to be 10 inches in length

A Straw (durva etc) four inches

The ghee is given as a spoonfull (sruva)

Paddy, Corn, puffed rice etc hand full

tila,mustard etc pinchfull

pepper (20 nos)appx.

Curds Milk Honey small shell full (alchippa)

flour sugar etc half handfull

jack fruit in 10 parts one piece at a time

flower one at a time

astadha narikelani khanditani vidurbdah

tridhakrutam phalam bilvam kapitham kanditam dvidha

coconut 8 parts one piece at a time, bilvam 3 parts one piece at a

time, sugarcane (cut at every block) one piece at a time

(Please note;- if there are any variations i will be glad to know )

 

Even we are forbidden to give away sarees and bangles in a havana

 

Initially when we were confused we were directed to take experiences

of what to do rather than what not to do. Following the kalpa or

procedure given by the gurus and setting harmonious environment is

what all our gurus say.

 

Namaste

Diwakar

 

Om shantih shantih shantihi

 

 

@ .com, S Sangaranarayanan <sangarsai@. ..> wrote:

>

>

> Dear Divine,

>

> Thanks.

> Please execuse me if I do not agree with the views. According to my

personal view all the havans conducted with saptasathi is a process

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

shri gurubhyo namaH

shri mahAgaNapataye namaH

 

Friends;

 

During a Homam, there is always a leader, who orchestrates the intensity of the

fire. The size and type of dravyas should be corresponding to the size of the

Homa Kundam. Homams can vary in simplicity and complexity, depending on

resources available.

 

It is true that the smoke can be reduced. It is also true that whichever way you

perform the Homam, (whether with our without Sapthashati ), there will be smoke.

 

Regarding simple rituals, performing homam with sapthashati becomes easier with

time, if parayanam is done properly. The sense of " sukham " that is achieved by

Chandi Homam can only be experienced, whichever way it is performed.

 

I believe that many people have posted enough authority for performing Chandi

Homam with Sapthashati. So, my mind is not changed. In fact, now I am willing to

lean on the other side of the scale, and state that without sapthashatii, Chandi

Homam is not complete. It would not qualify to be called Chandi Homam after

that.

 

Regarding issues of environmental pollution, I am not of the same opinion. Did

you know that Agni Hotram practices in South America have improved agricultural

yields significantly ? In fact, these Homams help to produce harmonious

environments, both environmentally and spiritually.

 

One final thought. During Chandi Homam, we must attempt not to be distracted by

the smoke. It is difficult when one's breath becomes short, but that is what we

must try to achieve.

 

Thanks and Regards

KR.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

when the Bhopal tragedy took place, 5 houses in the immediate vicinity was not

affected by the poisionous gases of Union Carbide and the reasons were, these

persons hailing from AP were Nithya Agnihotries. This was not only reported in

Hindu News paper but also there were interviews of these persons on leading TV

channels and I have seen this interview . 

 

 

 

Ganapathy ---  Vijaya

" Jai Bhavani "

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Regarding issues of environmental pollution, I am not of the same opinion. Did

you know that Agni Hotram practices in South America have improved agricultural

yields significantly ? In fact, these Homams help to produce harmonious

environments, both environmentally and spiritually.

 

One final thought. During Chandi Homam, we must attempt not to be distracted by

the smoke. It is difficult when one's breath becomes short, but that is what we

must try to achieve.

 

Thanks and Regards

KR.

 

 

[Guest guest]

Friends,

Do you think that you can do any havan when there is thick smoke and soot

irritating your eyes and your concentration is not on the havan or mantra but

only on your physical problems.Has any one done any research which dravya

provides an environmentally unpolluted atmosphere. I find that only the 51

matruka akshara herbs and their powders give a sooting effect. I have personally

tried it and there is no heavy smoke or soot. Further it goes well with the

authority " wherever there is God there is fragrance " . I cannot understand as to

why people stick to what has been done or said in the past and why not our mind

dwell on the current necessities. The real agni is our jataragni and even here

if you put things beyond its appreciation, you have trouble. It is the only agni

which has no flame or burning qualities as the agni. What God has given us such

an agni inside our ownself, why not we follow that and use things which are

condusive to everything. Our Rishis never used all these materials excepting

fallen twigs and a little cows ghee. They lived in a better atmosphere than all

of us.

Further logic has no place in spirituality. it is only the experience that

counts. Let us all try to go beyond all these rituals and procedures and reach

the absolute reality through the grace of the Guru.

Further Chandi is specific to remove all obstacles that is confronting the

divine energy from the Guru Mandalam being directed to the devotee and let us

learn to use it to strengthen our Guru Mandalam and its energy protecting the

whole universe. Only such people who knows the technique of drawing the energy

from the Guru mandalam can know the value of Chandi and others simply stick to

the rituals and procedures rather than seek the true divine. May Divine Chandi

bless us all.

DO NOT MISTAKE ME AS I AM ONLY POURING MY AGONY.

Regards,

S.SHANGARANARAYANAN

 

 

 

: kramach: Wed, 10 Sep 2008

08:32:08 -0400Re: Re: Mrityunjaya Stotra & Chandi Homa

 

 

 

 

shri gurubhyo namaHshri mahAgaNapataye namaHFriends;During a Homam, there is

always a leader, who orchestrates the intensity of the fire. The size and type

of dravyas should be corresponding to the size of

[Guest guest]

dearDivine,I fully agree with your ideas.after certain time or gaineing the

enargy we have to move aheadin our path.That what my guru used to point

everytime.

anuradha

 

--- On Tue, 9/9/08, S Sangaranarayanan <sangarsai wrote:

 

S Sangaranarayanan <sangarsai

RE: Re: Mrityunjaya Stotra & Chandi Homa

 

Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 9:47 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Divine,

I am of the opinion that the procedure is relative to prohits and not

spiritualists. Many acharyas follow their own way and it cannot be construed

that they are universally accepted.

I am not at all offended, as I am still a learner and would like enlightenment

on this subject to my fullest acceptance.

In a recent havan for maha ganapathy, people very big modhakam as big as 50

kilos and the entire atmosphere became dense with smoke, and none of the

participants were able to breathe, chant the mantra or even conduct the

poornahuthi perfectly. Do you agree with this type of havan in order to attract

people and not divine energy. If Ganapathy can accept only very big modak then

He is not within the reach of common upasakas.

Let us concentrate to acquire the total divine energy which is beyond all these

rituals. Rituals bind the body and mind.

Please execuse me for this writing.

Regards,

S.SHANGARANARAYANAN

 

@ .combabu193520032003@ Tue, 9 Sep

2008 09:33:24 +0000 Re: Mrityunjaya Stotra & Chandi Homa

 

Dear Sirs,Kindly excuse me for intervening in your discussion of such a

seriousand important subject.I am a noivice and do not know the variouspractices

prevalant.I request you to go through the commentaries of Gupthavathi

andNagojibhatti for DeviMahathmyam. They explain the various practices in amore

lucid and convincing language the procedure for ChandiHomam aswell.There is

nothing wrong if Durga Saptha shathi mantrams are used inChandi Homam.It is

potent.If you provide some other authority,I will be able to go through it

andchange my view if need be.Please do not get offended for myrequest.Thanking

you.N.S.VenkataSubr amanian-- - In @ .com, " karthikvathula "

<karthikvathula@ ...>wrote: >> Respected sir,>> Then, does this mean that the

several Chandika mahayagams performed> in the Kanchi Srimatam and Sringeri

Sarada Peetam, under the divine> auspices of the Acharya Swamigals are different

from the prescribed> regulations? Or do they

follow a different paddathi?>> Kindly clarify.>

 

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shri gurubhyo namaH

shri mahAgaNapataye namaH

 

Dear Shri Sangaranarayanan:

 

I wish you luck with your saadhana and hope you follow in your Guruji's path.

 

Regards.

KR.

shri mAtre namaH

 

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S Sangaranarayanan

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:09 AM

RE: Re: Mrityunjaya Stotra & Chandi Homa

 

 

Friends,

Do you think that you can do any havan when there is thick smoke and soot

irritating your eyes and your concentration is not on the havan or mantra but

only on your physical problems.Has any one done any research which dravya

provides an environmentally unpolluted atmosphere. I find that only the 51

matruka akshara herbs and their powders give a sooting effect. I have personally

tried it and there is no heavy smoke or soot. Further it goes well with the

authority " wherever there is God there is fragrance " . I cannot understand as to

why people stick to what has been done or said in the past and why not our mind

dwell on the current necessities. The real agni is our jataragni and even here

if you put things beyond its appreciation, you have trouble. It is the only agni

which has no flame or burning qualities as the agni. What God has given us such

an agni inside our ownself, why not we follow that and use things which are

condusive to everything. Our Rishis never used all these materials excepting

fallen twigs and a little cows ghee. They lived in a better atmosphere than all

of us.

Further logic has no place in spirituality. it is only the experience that

counts. Let us all try to go beyond all these rituals and procedures and reach

the absolute reality through the grace of the Guru.

Further Chandi is specific to remove all obstacles that is confronting the

divine energy from the Guru Mandalam being directed to the devotee and let us

learn to use it to strengthen our Guru Mandalam and its energy protecting the

whole universe. Only such people who knows the technique of drawing the energy

from the Guru mandalam can know the value of Chandi and others simply stick to

the rituals and procedures rather than seek the true divine. May Divine Chandi

bless us all.

DO NOT MISTAKE ME AS I AM ONLY POURING MY AGONY.

Regards,

S.SHANGARANARAYANAN

 

: kramach: Wed, 10 Sep 2008

08:32:08 -0400Re: Re: Mrityunjaya Stotra & Chandi Homa

 

shri gurubhyo namaHshri mahAgaNapataye namaHFriends;During a Homam, there is

always a leader, who orchestrates the intensity of the fire. The size and type

of dravyas should be corresponding to the size of