Guest guest Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 Namaste, Dogma is needed in the beginning of one's sadhana, but should be rejected as one progresses. Otherwise, it becomes a blockage instead of promoting progress. But it IS needed in the beginning. Dogma dictates maintaining several kinds of external purity when chanting mantras, slokas and prayers. The purpose of external purity is to eventually promote internal purity. If someone already has a high level of internal purity and can focus the mind on god irrespective of external circumstances, external purity is irrelevant. But, in the case of a less evolved person, focussing on god is difficult and depends on external factors. When one takes bath, wears clean clothes, sits in a nice room with nice idols, nice lighting and incense etc, one may be able to focus mind on god and mantra a little better. So dogma requires all those things. If one is able to think of god's name all the time and one's mind soars high irrespective of what the body is doing, it is foolish to try to stop the mind from soaring high and tying it down to the acts of the body. Dogma should be dumped then. * * * One lady told me once, "when I have my monthly periods, I am not supposed to say mantras. But my mind is used to always silently repeating certain mantras and that continues during my periods also. What should I do? It is not easy for me to stop my mind. My mind is so used to saying those names. Why should I stop consciously during my periods? Is it a sin to say god's name?" This lady is very pure and clean-hearted. I see no reason to tell her, "no lady, it is a *sin* to say the mantra during your periods." Of course, any clear-sighted person can see that it is NOT a sin to repeat god's name, irrespective of the circumstances and surroundings. * * * How to decide whether you should stick to dogma or dump it? If there is *any* little feeling of guilt inside you when you break a rule of dogma, it means you are not ready for breaking that rule. Then simply follow dogma. Suppose saying Gayatri mantra when you are urinating makes you a little uncomfortable or gives a little feeling of wrong-doing. Then don't say it. Suppose someone else realizes that Gayatri mantra says that this entire universe is filled with the effulgence of Savita and thinks that the same Savita's effulgence is in a god's idol, in one's own body, in one's urine and in the food one eats etc and there is no real distinction between all of them. Then he may chant Gayatri mantra even when urinating. What's wrong with it? If there is ANY amount of guilt in one when are breaking dogma, one probably needs to stick to dogma for more time. Best regards,NarasimhaDo a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpanaSpirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org - Chandra Prakash Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:54 PM Re: Re: Harish Johari's books Dear Narasimha,Could you please elaborate on this statement." Whether you are walking or talking or driving or typing or reading or writing or answering nature's calls, you can still silently chant His name in the mind. I once had a discussion with our priest. We had gone to a temple where they had the intercom connection in the restrooms, so that people could listen if there was some announcement going on (as well as any prayers/bhajans). The priest felt that this was very inappropriate and that we should not be listening to any prayers in the restroom (let alone chant anything silently or otherwise). Thanks.warm regards,Chandraprakash Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 1:04:17 AM Re: Harish Johari's books Namaste Sir,Do I know you from before?If you do not mind, can I have your birthdata (date, time and place of birth)? You can send it privately to pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net.If your goal is reaching Vaikuntha loka and serving the Lord, just chant His name all the time when you are awake. Whether you are walking or talking or driving or typing or reading or writing or answering nature's calls, you can still silently chant His name in the mind.If you do this enough, your mind will start chanting his name when it is asleep too!Your goal should be to repeat a (any) name of the Lord all the time, so that taking that name becomes the second nature to your mind!Other things are not as useful as getting addicted to a name of the Lord.Best regards,Narasimha------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpanaSpirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdomFree Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - - "Bivash Ramroop" <bivaash108 ><>Friday, October 10, 2008 2:38 AM Harish Johari's books> Om Brihaspataye Namah>> Namaste dear Narasimhaji and other enlightened members,>> I have come across some interesting information about Harish Johari,> being an enlightened soul.>> I have been reading his "Leela" book based on the Gyan Chaupad and it> is very interesting and it resonates with my personal beliefs (that> the ultimate goal of life is to reach Vaikuntha Loka and serve the> Lord)>> However, I have read some reviews about his book, "Tools for Tantra"> with some people saying it is a dangerous book to read.> I am now feeling anxious because I wanted to read it, but now I am> scared that maybe it is too esoteric to read.>> I have read other occult books before, but mostly by western authors> on subjects such as summoning spirits etc- and nothing freaky or> weird happened to me when reading those books.>> Any advice?>> Jaya Sita Raam> Bivash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 Namaste Narsimhaji, Can u please expound more on this question : " when I have my monthly periods, I am not supposed to say mantras. But my mind is used to always silently repeating certain mantras and that continues during my periods also. What should I do? " What is the reason behind not praying at this time and what are the Dos and Dont's to be followed. Kind Regards, Sunita , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote: > > Namaste, > > Dogma is needed in the beginning of one's sadhana, but should be rejected as one progresses. Otherwise, it becomes a blockage instead of promoting progress. But it IS needed in the beginning. > > Dogma dictates maintaining several kinds of external purity when chanting mantras, slokas and prayers. The purpose of external purity is to eventually promote internal purity. > > If someone already has a high level of internal purity and can focus the mind on god irrespective of external circumstances, external purity is irrelevant. > > But, in the case of a less evolved person, focussing on god is difficult and depends on external factors. When one takes bath, wears clean clothes, sits in a nice room with nice idols, nice lighting and incense etc, one may be able to focus mind on god and mantra a little better. So dogma requires all those things. > > If one is able to think of god's name all the time and one's mind soars high irrespective of what the body is doing, it is foolish to try to stop the mind from soaring high and tying it down to the acts of the body. Dogma should be dumped then. > > * * * > > One lady told me once, " when I have my monthly periods, I am not supposed to say mantras. But my mind is used to always silently repeating certain mantras and that continues during my periods also. What should I do? It is not easy for me to stop my mind. My mind is so used to saying those names. Why should I stop consciously during my periods? Is it a sin to say god's name? " > > This lady is very pure and clean-hearted. I see no reason to tell her, " no lady, it is a *sin* to say the mantra during your periods. " Of course, any clear-sighted person can see that it is NOT a sin to repeat god's name, irrespective of the circumstances and surroundings. > > * * * > > How to decide whether you should stick to dogma or dump it? If there is *any* little feeling of guilt inside you when you break a rule of dogma, it means you are not ready for breaking that rule. Then simply follow dogma. > > Suppose saying Gayatri mantra when you are urinating makes you a little uncomfortable or gives a little feeling of wrong-doing. Then don't say it. Suppose someone else realizes that Gayatri mantra says that this entire universe is filled with the effulgence of Savita and thinks that the same Savita's effulgence is in a god's idol, in one's own body, in one's urine and in the food one eats etc and there is no real distinction between all of them. Then he may chant Gayatri mantra even when urinating. What's wrong with it? > > If there is ANY amount of guilt in one when are breaking dogma, one probably needs to stick to dogma for more time. > > Best regards, > Narasimha > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > Spirituality: > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > - > Chandra Prakash > > Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:54 PM > Re: Re: Harish Johari's books > > > Dear Narasimha, > > Could you please elaborate on this statement. > > " Whether you are walking or talking or driving or typing or reading > or writing or answering nature's calls, you can still silently chant His name in the mind. > > I once had a discussion with our priest. We had gone to a temple where they had the intercom connection in the restrooms, so that people could listen if there was some announcement going on (as well as any prayers/bhajans). The priest felt that this was very inappropriate and that we should not be listening to any prayers in the restroom (let alone chant anything silently or otherwise). Thanks. > > warm regards, > Chandraprakash > > > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr > > Sunday, October 12, 2008 1:04:17 AM > Re: Harish Johari's books > > > Namaste Sir, > > Do I know you from before? > > If you do not mind, can I have your birthdata (date, time and place of > birth)? You can send it privately to pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net. > > If your goal is reaching Vaikuntha loka and serving the Lord, just chant His > name all the time when you are awake. Whether you are walking or talking or > driving or typing or reading or writing or answering nature's calls, you can > still silently chant His name in the mind. > > If you do this enough, your mind will start chanting his name when it is > asleep too! > > Your goal should be to repeat a (any) name of the Lord all the time, so that > taking that name becomes the second nature to your mind! > > Other things are not as useful as getting addicted to a name of the Lord. > > Best regards, > Narasimha > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpana > Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > - > " Bivash Ramroop " <bivaash108 > > <> > Friday, October 10, 2008 2:38 AM > Harish Johari's books > > > Om Brihaspataye Namah > > > > Namaste dear Narasimhaji and other enlightened members, > > > > I have come across some interesting information about Harish Johari, > > being an enlightened soul. > > > > I have been reading his " Leela " book based on the Gyan Chaupad and it > > is very interesting and it resonates with my personal beliefs (that > > the ultimate goal of life is to reach Vaikuntha Loka and serve the > > Lord) > > > > However, I have read some reviews about his book, " Tools for Tantra " > > with some people saying it is a dangerous book to read. > > I am now feeling anxious because I wanted to read it, but now I am > > scared that maybe it is too esoteric to read. > > > > I have read other occult books before, but mostly by western authors > > on subjects such as summoning spirits etc- and nothing freaky or > > weird happened to me when reading those books. > > > > Any advice? > > > > Jaya Sita Raam > > Bivash > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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