Some questions

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Dear friends,

 

I had asked 2 questions from Deito, which he never replied. He

is so busy with mutual appreciation that while answering my 3rd

question he addressed me as Mayandi (Is my name so bad?).

 

Now i have read all these posts here and i put some serious

questions. Please reply to it

 

Qn 1- What is the correct definition of a fanatic?

 

Qn 2 - If we are puppets of god then what is the purpose of this

life?

 

Qn 3- Why some peole make fun here of those who make serious

research into the Truth without blindly following ?

 

Qn 4- Can Good Karma lead to Moksha ?

 

I hope i will get reply this time

 

ansuya

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, ansuya80 <no_reply wrote:

>

> Qn 4- Can Good Karma lead to Moksha ?

>

> ansuya

>

 

Dear ansuya, from my side there is a direct NO to yr question. Good

Karma can lead to good results and a peacful and comfortable

life...and may be heaven after death.

 

Same is with Tapas. Tapasya leads to heaven. Both Good Karma and

tapasya, do not lead to Moksha. They may make a basis for doing

sadhna...as Sadhna is the only way to get Moksha.

 

Now sadhna can be Bhakti yoga, gyan yoga, raj yoga etc... but

finally to get out of clutches of MAYA we have to do sadhna.

 

If a Gyani by reading a few books, thinks he has understood the

system and tells he is God.. and thinks he is gyani

 

or if a bhakta by just believing god is with him.. and thinks he is

the greatest bhakta....both of them are still imperfect.

 

it is only the sadhna which finally gives bhakti to a gyani and gyan

to a bhakta....and Moksha to both

 

Aum

 

PS i will give answer to yr other questions...one by one

[Guest guest]

Dear ansuya,

 

I am so sorry, for that one.. lol... your name is very sweet. forgive

your brothers sin .. but you made me smile... i could not help.. .

 

I make an attempt to answer your questions, By his grace.

 

> Qn 1- What is the correct definition of a fanatic?

 

Ans : A fanatic is one, who attaches Ego to his belief, which in trun

results in unwanted aggressiveness, which makes him completely

resistant of higher truths or others forms of the same truth and hence

makes his spiritual progress ( or any progress for that matter ) Slow.

 

> Qn 2 - If we are puppets of god then what is the purpose of this

> life?

 

We are His parcels, deviated ( puppet is not that right a word to

describe us ) and our aim is to realize that he is the one who is

running the show, though he is not bound to, and he is doing all this

for supporting our decision to go separate and lord over, though that

is not our nature and at the same time, also device a plan to remove

all our pains and give us our every blissful original form.

 

Our purpose is to Understand him. The purpose of every Path is to

Understand him. There are many , paths are many, and i am one of these

fallen souls and my path is Bakthi, not by choice but by desire.

 

> Qn 3- Why some people make fun here of those who make serious

> research into the Truth without blindly following ?

 

I never do this, if i do such , than i am a sinner , because making

fun of people in search of Lord, is big sin, and can be done only in

mode of ignorance.

 

Please help us , for making us regret for such a sin, when we do it.

For example by mistake or in ignorance if i do such a think, Please

correct me Ansuya.

 

> Qn 4- Can Good Karma lead to Moksha ?

 

Good Karma, will make you eligible to walk on the path for Moksha.

 

Which path will you be destined will depend on how good your karma is

my dear Ansuya.

 

hope by his grace, i am able to make some sense, and help you in your

questions, My dear Sister.

 

Anytime , please poke me , if you contradict on anything above, or if

i have done mistake, or You did't understand what i wrote, or i am

un-clear in conveying what i intend ( as usual .... lol .. )

 

-- Deito

 

Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam.

 

, ansuya80 <no_reply wrote:

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> Qn 1- What is the correct definition of a fanatic?

>

> Qn 2 - If we are puppets of god then what is the purpose of this

> life?

>

> Qn 3- Why some peole make fun here of those who make serious

> research into the Truth without blindly following ?

>

> Qn 4- Can Good Karma lead to Moksha ?

>

> I hope i will get reply this time

>

>Namaste Dear Anusuya. I am sorry, I maybe didnot notice any of your

questions except the one on astrology.

 

There is no real fanaticism in my view. This fanaticism I think is only

a stepping stone which maybe the bhaktas and gyaanis have to cross as

one of the earliest obstacles in my view.For example if someone says

that Allah is not God and they arent one and the same it doesnt mean

that he is not acknowledging God .It means that he is being blind and

ignorant and sooner or later he will cross this obstacle.

 

 

For second question I will only say that I dont think we are puppets in

Gods hands at all. When we say so we are forgetting the greatness of

God. To say such a thing is against bhakti or I thimk any other path of

yoga

 

The third one- No one an know the truth by following blindly. Everyone

gradually learns truths through sadhna alone. You cant

make " research " into truth , you can only learn the truth by experience

 

As for the fourth question I will say that karma ie good one directly

doesnt lead to moksha but indirectly maybe it does . See what Krishna

says- " the diseased, aggreived, those who wish to know gyaana and

gyyanis chant me as a result of the good karma of thier previous

birth " . So good karma doesnt directly lead to God as baba says but

sadhna is that which can lead you to God and that alone

 

I answered according to my limited capabilities so pls forgive and

correct me if I am wrong anywhere

 

regards

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, ansuya80 <no_reply wrote:

> Qn 3- Why some peole make fun here of those who make serious

> research into the Truth without blindly following ?

> ansuya

>

For the same reason some people make fun of bhaktas for blindly

following a faith..... IGNORANCE & SUPERIORITY COMPLEX.

 

A gyani till he develops Bhakti is imperfect gyani

A Bhakta till he develops gyan is also imperfect bhakta

 

 

Real bhaktas do have gyan...real gyan. See Mirabai and

Hanumanji... their gyan was not book based but actual wisdom.

 

Devotion without any enquiry is a very basic concept of Bhakti and

each bhakta has to start from this point....but if someone is stuck

up there and is making fun of those who are making serious enquiry

into Truth is simply immaturity.

 

Those who are following correct sadhna develop Bhakti, Gyan and

karmayoga together....because there is literally no difference

between these points....they may look like starting from different

points..but run parallel towards truth...and all of them meet at one

point.

 

AUM

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> He is so busy with mutual appreciation that while answering my 3rd

> question he addressed me as Mayandi (Is my name so bad?).

 

>

> Qn 1- What is the correct definition of a fanatic?

 

Winston Churchill said " " A fanatic is someone who can't change his

mind and won't change the subject. "

 

> Qn 2 - If we are puppets of god then what is the purpose of this

> life?

 

We are not like puppets- a better example is cells. If our cells

co-operate we have a good body & health. Cells that dont cooperate are

called cancer. Do our blood cells have free will? Yes, they can become

cancerous, & refuse to cooperate with body, or they work to keep body

alive.

 

Similarly, the only free will we have is to work with the Divine plan,

or against it.

 

> Qn 3- Why some peole make fun here of those who make serious

> research into the Truth without blindly following ?

 

Paper tigers have to growl louder

 

> Qn 4- Can Good Karma lead to Moksha ?

 

No, but Karma Yoga can.

 

Karma Yoga, whereby one dedicates all actions to God, & continously

lives in God conciousness(while eating, walking, working), can lead to

Moksha.

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> A gyani till he develops Bhakti is imperfect gyani

> A Bhakta till he develops gyan is also imperfect bhakta

>

>

> Real bhaktas do have gyan...real gyan. See Mirabai and

> Hanumanji... their gyan was not book based but actual wisdom.

 

Yes,Babaji I agree. Bhaktas give example of Hanumanji, forgetting he

was a Brahm Gyani before he even met Ram. He had mastered all the

Vedas, & could defeat any Pandit.

 

Shankaracharya, whose philosphy is dry, intellectual, in the later

years of his life(after a meeting with Kashmiri Tantrics, & getting

Durgas darshan), became a great Bhakta, & sang & danced on the road.

Many of great hymns to the Devi are actually written by him.

 

Chaitnya Mahaprabhu, the Guru of Gaudiya Math( & ISKON), was the most

feared logician & debater of his time. One day, he started laughing &

dancing on street- he realised the futility of debate & logics. Thats

when he got darshan of Krishna.

 

But all these people spent years becoming Gyanis, before they found

path of Bhakti was more powerful. But only a true Gyani can have this

realisation, not someone who reads it in a book.

 

Like a man climbs the Everest, then says it was nothing, very easy.

Another just reads his book, & says " Climbing Everest is easy? So I

dont have to do it! "

 

love

Shantnu

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, " Aum " <beirut_ka_baba wrote:

>

 

> Devotion without any enquiry is a very basic concept of Bhakti and

> each bhakta has to start from this point....but if someone is stuck

> up there and is making fun of those who are making serious enquiry

> into Truth is simply immaturity.

>

>

>THE SO CALLED GYAANIS ALSO MAKE A MOCKERY OF BHAKTAS BY CALLING THIER

FAITH BLIND. FAITH IN BHAKTI IS INSTINCTIVE WISDOM AND NOT BLINDLY

FOLLOWING ANYTHING.GOD DOESNT ONLY SHOW WAY TO GYAANIS BUT ALSO TO

BHAKTAS.HE DIRECTS THEM FROM THE HEART. BY BEING A GYAANI I AM SURE

BHAKTAS DONT BECOME FREE OF SENTIMENTS FOR THIER LORD. SO PEOPLE ARE

WRONG IN MARKING BHAKTAS AS " FANATICS " .THOSE WHO ARE BHAKTAS LEARN FROM

INSIDE AND NOT FROM BOOKS BUT GYAANIS PRESUME THAT ALL BHAKTAS ARE FULL

OF " BLIND FAITH AND IGNORANCE " I AM NOT RIDICULING OR ATTACKING ANYONE.

JUST SPEAKING A FACT.

IF THOSE WHO ARE BHAKTAS DONT HAVE GYYANA THEN THOSE WHO ARE GYYANIS AT

ONE POINT DONT HAVE MUCH BHAKTI EITHER.ITS THOSE WHO RIDICULE

SENTIMENTS AS IGNORANCE. WHEN DID RADHA MAKE INQUIRIES AND RESEARCHES

UPON BRAHM GYAAN?THE DHARMA OF A BHAKTA IS BHAKTI ALONE AND HE SHOULD

FOLLOW THE PATH STEADILY BECAUSE THAT PATH WILL LEAD HIM TO EVERYTHING

ELSE AUTOMATICALLY.

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, " i_free_spirit " <i_free_spirit

wrote:

> >

> >THE SO CALLED GYAANIS ALSO MAKE A MOCKERY OF BHAKTAS BY CALLING

THIER

> FAITH BLIND. FAITH IN BHAKTI IS INSTINCTIVE WISDOM AND NOT BLINDLY

 

 

Whatever I write here, Aradhna has to ridicule, argue and contradict

me (without understanding it)....She is out to prove Aum is the most

ignorant person here .... And she was questioned only once and all

hell fell down in sadhna.

 

Ok I agree I am ignorant yet, just a simple sadhaka... should i

continue writing OR go back to moderator's job?

 

Aum

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, ansuya80 <no_reply wrote:

.. Please reply to it

>

> Qn 1- What is the correct definition of a fanatic?

 

As per my own views a fanatic is the one who has a closed

mind...is not ready to listen/accept new ideas. A fanatic not only

rejects other's beliefs..but also forces others to accept his closed

ideas.

 

And a fanatic can be anyone...a Bhakta, a gyani even an atheist.

 

Aum

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, shanracer <no_reply wrote:

>

 

Thankyou very much Aum Deito Shanracer and Aradhna for nice replies.

So can i take home that women are bettr than men spiritually ?

 

ansuya

 

BTW Where is FARAH, Bala and Senthil ? why are they not posting?

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, ansuya80 <no_reply wrote:

 

>

 

 

A1 BLIND FOLLOWERS ARE FANATICS OF ANY WALK OF LIFE

 

A2 WE ARE TO REALIZE GOD PUPPET DONT

 

A3 FOLLOWERSAND RESEARCHERS OF TRUTH ARE ALWAYS ADMIRED IN THIS

WORLD

 

A4 MOKSA IS REALIZATION OF NIRVANA BEFORE DEATH AND NOT AFTER ITAND

KARM SHOULD BE ON THAT OBJECTIVE OF FINAL GOAL OF OUR LIFE

 

PROF TIWARY

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Dear Aum,

 

Please forgive Aradhana, No way she aims at arguing and

contradicting with all, and hence it is no offense of her.. she

always has the habit of frankly flowing out her views , just like a

small baby, out of innocence..

 

What is does is the result of the Inqusitiveness, of the baby mind,

and as result everyone feels, she is contradicting etc.

 

 

My Dear Sister, i told you so many times... dont make everyone

understand when they dont accept.. you telll me what you feel,

because i know you nature.

 

god Bless All, May my sister shine like a lotun, in the divine light

of hari.

 

-- Deito

 

Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam.

 

, " Aum " <beirut_ka_baba wrote:

 

> Whatever I write here, Aradhna has to ridicule, argue and

contradict

>

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, " Aum " <beirut_ka_baba wrote:

 

> Whatever I write here, Aradhna has to ridicule, argue and

contradict

 

 

Aum

Oh baba please. I said that I am not contradicting you. Please for

God's sake. When did I say you are ignorant? You are much more wise

than me!I was speaking in general terms that gyaanis should not scoff

at bhaktas faith seeing it as blind because faith isnt blind. Please

dont misunderstand.

love

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, deito01 <no_reply wrote:

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>> My Dear Sister, i told you so many times... dont make everyone

> understand when they dont accept.. you telll me what you feel,

> because i know you nature.

>

> Thanks BROTHER. I DONT KNOW WHY I SAY SOMETHING ELSE AND THEY TAKE IT

AS SOMETHING ELSE! I NEVER INTEND TO INSULT OR PUT ANYONE DOWN! THIS IS

AN UNJUST ACCUSATION- I HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK MY MIND. BUT IF

SOMEBODY HAS A PROBLEM HERE I BETTER LEAVE BECAUSE I DONT KNOW HOW TO

BE WHAT I AM NOT. SO I SHOULD LEAVE.

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

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, " Aum " <beirut_ka_baba wrote:

>

> Whatever I write here, Aradhna has to ridicule, argue and contradict

 

Dear Aum

 

Should you really care for someone contradicting you?

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, ansuya80 <no_reply wrote:

 

>

> Dear Aum

>

> Should you really care for someone contradicting you?

>

 

 

Certainly... I dont mind anyone contradicting me. Since I have love

for Aradhana like for other sadhakas, i have a duty to point out to

her, anything i feel not correct.

 

Everyone has a right to openly write their views....but when

others openly express their views, why should one become angry ??

 

If I take the freedom to write my views freely... I should give

this liberty to others too .. This is what i wished to point out.

 

and I am sure Aradhana will take it in right spirits

 

 

AUM

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Be for me atleast my dear flower.

here most of them want to lord over nature, they discuss how to get

that siddi , how to merge and become lord.. but i am the other kind..

i done want to lord over anythign nor i want siddi's...

 

i love hari for sake of hari, and i dont mind if i have to again be

born human, because for me there is no hell, as everything is created

by him, and i can see him everywhere, and i find him always in you..

don't go.

 

-- Your bro Deito

 

Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam.

 

, " i_free_spirit " <i_free_spirit

wrote:

> BE WHAT I AM NOT. SO I SHOULD LEAVE.

> GOD BLESS YOU ALL

>

[Guest guest]

> Dear Aum

>

> Should you really care for someone contradicting you?

 

 

Aum *is* the moderator. And this is a discussion group, where everyone

can share their views.

 

There is a group of people here who just want to copy paste what their

Guru told them, or what they read in their favourite scripture last

week. They then pat each other back. They dont want any discussion, as

they are already Brahm Gyanis.

 

I think I have the perfect solution- We can have Monday & Tuesdays for

copy-pasting/patting each other. Rest of the days for normal discussion.

Is this ok with everyone? :-)

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, deito01 <no_reply wrote:

>

> Be for me atleast my dear flower.

> here most of them want to lord over nature, they discuss how to get

> that siddi , how to merge and become lord.. but i am the other kind..

 

My dear Deito,

 

First let me thank you on behalf of Sadhna community, for making

the atmosphere devotional with your beautiful posts.

 

On your comments on people running after siddhis..... you will

understand that Lord has not made two people same. Even two leaves of

the same tree are never same...there is always minute difference.

 

Everybody can not be like Deito or Like Aum or like Shanracer.

Otherwise the very purpose of his Leela will not hold water.

 

The main purpose of Sadhna club is not to make it a Hari Club or

Shiva club or ISCKON club, or Vedanti club. We have members from all

interests and we encourage all ideas, discuss them and accept what

ever suits us.

 

And I must say dear Deito, all are doing their duties very well.

None of us has any right to say, the other is wrong and i am right...

and i am sure you have already agreed to this in your earlier posts.

 

Gandhi ji said - Those who do not accept your views are not

necessarily evils.

 

Let us continue with our sharing

 

 

AUM

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Revered Ansuya ji, Humble Obeisances!

(1) Fanatic- extra enthusiast in respect of religion or politics, we can say

person with obsessive enthusiasm in these matters though not thorough in any

field. He is careless to make statements with proper proofs/study/ experience

and does actions without any aim, just for whim. So while using such words, one

should take proper care.(2) It is general convention to say like this. As

everybody has to complete his present journey with the capital he has deposited

with God in last so many births, according to his deposition he will get imprest

to spend. Total accumulation is never disclosed as one may shunn away his

present duties/obligations and become lazy to work. Every individual is provided

with free will, of which we are talking much, the percentage is only 20, i.e.

1/5th. God has given us ground, physique with sufficient strent, various

instruments and various ways/ideas to do work. The fift item 'result' is kept

reserved. And that is fate or future we say 'daiva'. He

has been advising us to be 'karmayogis' means He tells us to do obligatory or

chosen/accepted duties rightly putting 100% involvement (no escapism) and while

doing this be connected with Him for all the time. When we accept this theory

from Shreemad Bhagavad Gita, we very well conclude that God never says us as

'puttes in My hand' instead influences/promotes us to be right at every level

and do as He has stated in Gita. Only shirkers and followers of escapism get

themselves called like puppet so that they would not be blamed for their

inaction(akarmanyata) or laziness. (4) Good karmas alone never lead one to

moksha. Who will decide quality of karma? Quality of karma is decided by

" INTENTION BEHIND IT " . Today I will freely supply water to draught affected

village and tomorrow when elections come, I will ask villagers to vote for me.

Is this good karma? The person appointed in jail to hang up the offenders

sentenced to death. He does, though it is not his intention to kill

any one. Is this bad karma? Every indivdual is bound to do his assigned

duty/karma as per intention of Him. It is to be done for prosperity of

culture/habitation/society/ his family and for him and not for God. Only the

karmas, apart from obligatory and for physical development, done in the name of

God, for the God, with the help of God's intehtion and for children of God,

treating them insaperable divine brothers and sisters are good karmas. They are

done with disinterest or selflessly. While doing these karmas, every moment, the

Royal Guard of the Universe, watches through every eye and heart. A slightest

deviation ruins whole thing. And such karmas lead to moksha as they are done for

Him and on behalf of Him.

I am sorry, I do not know the answer of your 3rd question and I beg your

pardon for my ignorance. With heartful regards. = Keshav. Jai Shri Ram.

 

 

 

Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin.

 

 

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, ansuya80 <no_reply wrote:

>

> BTW Where is FARAH, Bala and Senthil ? why are they not posting?

>

 

Dear sister

 

Thankyou for thinking of me & noticing I have not been around. I have

been so busy with other things, but it is good to be back here

 

I can offer my thoughts on your questions if you like...

 

1. A FANATIC is someone who shows excessive & often misguided

enthusiasm for something. They are often narrow minded & ignorant. Im

sure we have all experienced a person of this nature before. Did you

see the brilliant film 'My Son The Fanatic?' where Om Puri played the

part of the father? This is a wonderful example of how fanaticism can

take over someone's life if the individual concerned has that type

of 'easily led' nature. (I didn't want to bring up the delicate

subject of Muslim terrorists - but I have to say, I feel these are

the types they go for - someone who is lacking in intelligence,

cannot think for themselves & be an individual.)

 

2. PUPPETS OF GOD. I dont believe we are puppets of God. If that were

the case, we would not have the need to think for ourselves & use the

privilege of free will. I do, however, believe in a divine plan, a

blueprint, destiny. The way I see it is this - it's like having a

map. Deep down in the core of your being you know which way is the

right way to go, but essentially you do have free will & can stray

from the correct path if you choose. You just have to bear in mind

you may get lost or bitten by a snake. These are the consequences

that happened as a result of the choice you made. Im sure we have all

been lost & bitten by a few snakes.

 

3. MAKING FUN. In my opinion, anyone who comes on here to make fun of

anyone, should seriously think twice before they post their answer. I

come on here to share, learn, discuss & exchange views with both like

minded individuals & also individuals who have a totally different

perspective to me on any given subject. To me, it shouldn't be about

who is right & who is wrong - but rather " this is what I think "

or " this is what I feel " & have the openness to accept we are all

different & so will have many different thoughts on things.

Personally, it is fine when someone agrees with me, or thinks that

what I have said is worthwhile. But it is even better when someone

disagrees with me, or questions what I have said - this is where

learning takes place. It could be my learning, their learning, or

both. Surely that's what this site is all about. Mocking, name

calling, finger pointing, accusing, threats to leave, beggings to

stay - dear oh dear - some days there is enough drama on here to

write a new soap opera!! Believe me, I welcome humour on this site -

but sometimes it just tips into the realms of something quite

negative & there is really no need. As I have said before, I believe

there is a loving way to say almost anything... & I also believe

there is enough love & respect between us to be able to achieve that

with some effort from us all.

 

4. CAN GOOD KARMA LEAD TO MOKSHA? This is a difficult one for me as

my knowledge of Moksha is limited. I can only share with you what I

think & feel - & I certainly have no problem holding my hands up &

saying I don't know or understand something. My understanding of

Moksha is that it is only something that can happen in the mind. Is

it not the mind alone that is responsible for either the bondages we

have, or the freedom we can have from these bondages? My knowledge of

Moksha is that it is liberation of the soul, freedom from limitations

& freedom from any 'body identification.' Im struggling to see the

link between a concept surely concerned with an individual's

perception of these things (ie in the mind) - and 'good karma' which

is concerned with actions. There doesn't seem to be a direct link to

me. I can, however, see that (as Aum said) all these things run

parallel & are all threads leading in the same direction.

 

 

So my sister, these are my thoughts & now I am writing way too much!

See what happens when I am away for a day or two! Well, I had to

respond - especially when you wrote my name in CAPITALS!! :-)

 

With much love

 

Farah

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> for Aradhana like for other sadhakas, i have a duty to point out to

> her, anything i feel not correct.

>

> Everyone has a right to openly write their views....but when

> others openly express their views, why should one become angry ??

>

> If I take the freedom to write my views freely... I should give

> this liberty to others too .. This is what i wished to point out.

 

first you say I am contradicting you, ridiculing you and what not

and now that I am taking others " liberty " .May I know what your thoughts

are?

I express my views and everyone has a problem.Thats fine but I should

keep repeating words like a parrot to make others happy!?

 

Hope you have no problem with this one now

[Guest guest]

they discuss how to get

> that siddi , how to merge and become lord.. but i am the other

kind..

> i done want to lord over anythign nor i want siddi's...

>

> i love hari for sake of hari, and i dont mind if i have to again be

> born human, because for me there is no hell, as everything is

created

> by him

My dear bro I have great regards for your devotion and also your

compassion towards other people.Those who love Hari are

compassionate. You are so right brother bhaktis aim is servitude and

sacrifice alone and nothing else.The one who aims for sidhdhis and

moksha and does bhakti for that isnt real lover of God.

Bharat says -like a chaatak its o.k for me if I keep loving Rama

irrrespective of whether the cloud showers stones or thunders.I dont

want dharma, artha, kaam, moksha only I want bhakti in each life

 

dont worry for me dear brother, my Guruji has taught me to bear

 

Here is a hymn of Mira for you and all bhaktas -:

Koi kaheyu teney kaheve re daiye

aapne Haribhajanma rahiye re,

jagtane bhagatne saday vair chche

tema bhaktpanu tey kone kahiye re

bhaktpanu jab janiye aapney

suhna bhenla sahiye re

hira n kankar ek ja ranga

tema Haripanu te kauney kahiye re

hira apnu jab janiye

apne dhavat dhandera sahiye re

mira ke prabhu Girdharna

gun aapney charankamal chit dhariye re

 

Let the worldly people criticise our devotion, we should not loose

faith in singing the glory of Lord Hari who removes all our suffering

 

The physical world and its pleasures are always in stark contrast to

yhe life of a devotee.To whom shall we talk of devotion when the rest

of the world is after ritualistic values?

 

As we know and fel the devotion and love of Krishna, we must bear the

evil words, thoughts and actions against us by those who dont know

devotion

 

When a diamond looks like another peice of rock, how can we convey

the worth of a real diamond (devotion) to someone who is totally

immersed in worthless attributes?

 

As we recognise the value of a real diamond, devotion, God gives us

the srength to put up with the strange ways and means of worldly

people

 

Miras lord is Girdhar Naagar, keep your mind absorbed in his lotus

feet

[Guest guest]

, " i_free_spirit " <i_free_spirit

wrote:

> I express my views and everyone has a problem.Thats fine but I

should

> keep repeating words like a parrot to make others happy!?

 

I have no problems with anything... you are completely free to write

anything u wish to.

 

If you have not understood what i wished to convey..then i better not

repeat it.

 

Ek ne kahi..duje ne maani

Nanak akhey dono gyani.

 

Let us continue... u will not hear from me again..because it is not my

job to guide you.

 

Aum