way to stop terrorism and attaining peace

[Guest guest]

Nashkar to all

 

Now a days we see a lot of unrest, wars and terror attacks on innocent people..

 

Is there no way to stop them any pooja or homam or jaapam to attain peace in the

world.. and stopping these terrorists..

[Guest guest]

 

 

 

we shud all do 10 mahavidya mantras and focus

on saudi arabia and pakistan so they r reverted

back to pre islamic days and jihad on hindus is

destroyed.

 

 

om shakti

 

gopal

 

 

On 4/8/09, Shilpa Gupta <shilpa_g2 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Nashkar to allNow a days we see a lot of unrest, wars and terror attacks on innocent people..Is there no way to stop them any pooja or homam or jaapam to attain peace in the world.. and stopping these terrorists..

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Any indivisual must protect himself first & aquired power. If this process follow by each sadhak, terror attack will be banished.

Jay Gurudev--- On Wed, 8/4/09, Shilpa Gupta <shilpa_g2 wrote:

Shilpa Gupta <shilpa_g2 way to stop terrorism and attaining peace Date: Wednesday, 8 April, 2009, 12:20 PM

 

 

Nashkar to allNow a days we see a lot of unrest, wars and terror attacks on innocent people..Is there no way to stop them any pooja or homam or jaapam to attain peace in the world.. and stopping these terrorists..

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that is very long way bcoz all humans r not inclined to spiritualism or sadhana.

 

but best is we our friends who r interested,in sadhana sghud focus on

making world better place by eliminating jihadi ideology as written

in koran and make pakistan,saudi arabioa back to preislamic days

where they were peace loving civilised people.

 

 

om shakti

 

gopal 

On 4/22/09, prashant khatri <tanay_001 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Any indivisual must protect himself first &  aquired power. If this process follow by each sadhak, terror attack will be banished.

Jay Gurudev--- On Wed, 8/4/09, Shilpa Gupta <shilpa_g2 wrote:

 

Shilpa Gupta <shilpa_g2

way to stop terrorism and attaining peace Date: Wednesday, 8 April, 2009, 12:20 PM

 

 

 

Nashkar to allNow a days we see a lot of unrest, wars and terror attacks on innocent people..Is there no way to stop them any pooja or homam or jaapam to attain peace in the world.. and stopping these terrorists..

 

 

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Jai Gurudev,

 

(With all due respect to Gopalji)Is that possible Gopalji ?Or is just one of your idea?

Is there any referance as such where, just reciting some mantras actually bring changes in the world? (without even having siddhis of those mantras)

 

Secondly we should not forget that masters are sitting in Siddhashram, and do take necessary steps when needed. I think we are too infant to think of world level issues. Even though we solve our own problems and help Gurubhais, its enough.

Regards,AnandAnand's Knowledge Series: /Tantra Public chat room: http://xat.com/ISSP--- On Wed, 22/4/09, gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123 wrote:

gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123Re: way to stop terrorism and attaining peace Date: Wednesday, 22 April, 2009, 5:48 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

we shud all do 10 mahavidya mantras and focus

on saudi arabia and pakistan so they r reverted

back to pre islamic days and jihad on hindus is

destroyed.

 

 

om shakti

 

gopal

 

 

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dear friend,

 

 

india is facing very difficult situation.pakistan,china,mayanmar-burma,

nepal,bangladesh srilanka etc r a threat to our country and to us

and our way of life - sanatan dharma.

 

on top,congress-sp-bsp-commies etc r helping the

christian/islamic crusaders/jihaids and english

and hindi news channels r agent of foreigners.

 

 

i will tell u 1 real story :

 

a friend of mine had a court case where he had lent some money

to someone ahd was not returning the money.

 

this friend downloaded the pic of mother baglamukhi from net,

and the mantra and started doing it daily,without doing the 125000

mantras,and amazingly he won the case,despite there was no

hope of getting money back,the person who had taken money

returned it.

 

what does this prove ???

 

" sharanagat dinartha paritryan parayane sarva syarti hare devi narayani namostute "

 

in srimad devi bhagwat puran,in srimad bhagwat pura,in shiv puran

there r numerous cases where people by their devotion have

pleased god and they have been successful in getting their goal.

 

the gods r here to help us in the goal of

saving hindu society and they will not

sit and count how many mala we did,but

surely will see our devotion and help.

 

the stories of rishi markandeya [ creator of puranoktka mahamrityunjaya mantra ]

prahlad etc r there for all to know.

 

beside these stories of miracles of bhakta janabai,tukaram,narsingh mehta

etc r well known today.

 

this is kaliyug the yug of bhakti.

 

the gods surely know our problems and surely they will help us if we sincerely

try.

 

there is something above tantra and that is selfless devotion,and

we shud devote ourself selflessly to preserving our country

and religion and also do mantras and surely the gods will help.

and tantra can help to do it faster.

 

why shud we doubt the gods ? they will help,even if we dont

do purashcharan as i observed in some cases and my personal friend's

case.

 

i am very sure,that if we devote some time of our prayer to pray for

bharat mata and hindu dharma,and also try to spread

our phylosophy and teach our chilren abt hindu dharma we

will win.

 

i do all of the above teach my children abt the

puranas,and also various mantra etc.

 

u can differ in yr views,i dont mind,but if we sincerely pray

to the gods they will answer,bcoz ultimately it survival of

dharma.

 

 

om shakti

 

 

gopal

 

 

 

 

 

On 4/23/09, Khatri Anand <khatrianand wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jai Gurudev,

 

(With all due respect to Gopalji)Is that possible Gopalji ?Or is just one of your idea? 

Is there any referance as such where, just reciting some mantras actually bring changes in the world? (without even having siddhis of those mantras)

 

Secondly we should not forget that masters are sitting in Siddhashram, and do take necessary steps when needed. I think we are too infant to think of world level issues. Even though we solve our own problems and help Gurubhais, its enough.

 

Regards,AnandAnand's Knowledge Series: /

Tantra Public chat room: http://xat.com/ISSP--- On Wed, 22/4/09, gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123 wrote:

 

gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123

Re: way to stop terrorism and attaining peace Date: Wednesday, 22 April, 2009, 5:48 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

we shud all do 10 mahavidya mantras and focus

on saudi arabia and pakistan so they r reverted

back to pre islamic days and jihad on hindus is

destroyed.

 

 

om shakti

 

gopal

 

 

On 4/8/09, Shilpa Gupta <shilpa_g2 (AT) zapak (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

Nashkar to allNow a days we see a lot of unrest, wars and terror attacks on innocent people..Is there no way to stop them any pooja or homam or jaapam to attain peace in the world.. and stopping these terrorists..

 

 

 

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jai gurudev

gurudevji has mentioned about the kritya in the march magzine of this yeari.e, 2009 to stop terrorism in the country. The gurudevji has mentioned about the kritya in the parvachan i.e. the beginning of the magzine.

He has told the whole story of the kritya, the birth of the kritya. How kritya was originated??

he has also asked us to use this power to stop terrorism......

 

 

 

Khatri Anand <khatrianand Sent: Thursday, 23 April, 2009 1:44:55 PMRe: way to stop terrorism and attaining peace

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jai Gurudev,

 

(With all due respect to Gopalji)Is that possible Gopalji ?Or is just one of your idea?

Is there any referance as such where, just reciting some mantras actually bring changes in the world? (without even having siddhis of those mantras)

 

Secondly we should not forget that masters are sitting in Siddhashram, and do take necessary steps when needed. I think we are too infant to think of world level issues. Even though we solve our own problems and help Gurubhais, its enough.

Regards,AnandAnand's Knowledge Series: http://groups. / group/guru- nikhil/Tantra Public chat room: http://xat.com/ ISSP--- On Wed, 22/4/09, gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123@ gmail.com> wrote:

gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123@ gmail.com>Re: way to stop terrorism and attaining peace@ s.comWednesday, 22 April, 2009, 5:48 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

we shud all do 10 mahavidya mantras and focus

on saudi arabia and pakistan so they r reverted

back to pre islamic days and jihad on hindus is

destroyed.

 

 

om shakti

 

gopal

 

 

On 4/8/09, Shilpa Gupta <shilpa_g2 (AT) zapak (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

Nashkar to allNow a days we see a lot of unrest, wars and terror attacks on innocent people..Is there no way to stop them any pooja or homam or jaapam to attain peace in the world.. and stopping these terrorists..

 

 

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Jai Maa Jayadhurga,

I agree with your views.Sincere prayer with concentrated mind can do wonders

Regds

 

 

 

, gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123 wrote:

>

> dear friend,

>

>

> india is facing very difficult situation.pakistan,china,mayanmar-burma,

> nepal,bangladesh srilanka etc r a threat to our country and to us

> and our way of life - sanatan dharma.

>

> on top,congress-sp-bsp-commies etc r helping the

> christian/islamic crusaders/jihaids and english

> and hindi news channels r agent of foreigners.

>

>

> i will tell u 1 real story :

>

> a friend of mine had a court case where he had lent some money

> to someone ahd was not returning the money.

>

> this friend downloaded the pic of mother baglamukhi from net,

> and the mantra and started doing it daily,without doing the 125000

> mantras,and amazingly he won the case,despite there was no

> hope of getting money back,the person who had taken money

> returned it.

>

> what does this prove ???

>

> " sharanagat dinartha paritryan parayane sarva syarti hare devi narayani

> namostute "

>

> in srimad devi bhagwat puran,in srimad bhagwat pura,in shiv puran

> there r numerous cases where people by their devotion have

> pleased god and they have been successful in getting their goal.

>

> the gods r here to help us in the goal of

> saving hindu society and they will not

> sit and count how many mala we did,but

> surely will see our devotion and help.

>

> the stories of rishi markandeya [ creator of puranoktka mahamrityunjaya

> mantra ]

> prahlad etc r there for all to know.

>

> beside these stories of miracles of bhakta janabai,tukaram,narsingh mehta

> etc r well known today.

>

> this is kaliyug the yug of bhakti.

>

> the gods surely know our problems and surely they will help us if we

> sincerely

> try.

>

> there is something above tantra and that is selfless devotion,and

> we shud devote ourself selflessly to preserving our country

> and religion and also do mantras and surely the gods will help.

> and tantra can help to do it faster.

>

> why shud we doubt the gods ? they will help,even if we dont

> do purashcharan as i observed in some cases and my personal friend's

> case.

>

> i am very sure,that if we devote some time of our prayer to pray for

> bharat mata and hindu dharma,and also try to spread

> our phylosophy and teach our chilren abt hindu dharma we

> will win.

>

> i do all of the above teach my children abt the

> puranas,and also various mantra etc.

>

> u can differ in yr views,i dont mind,but if we sincerely pray

> to the gods they will answer,bcoz ultimately it survival of

> dharma.

>

>

> om shakti

>

>

> gopal

>

On 4/23/09, Khatri Anand <khatrianand wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Jai Gurudev,

> >

> > (With all due respect to Gopalji)

> >

> > Is that possible Gopalji ?

> >

> > Or is just one of your idea?

> >

> > Is there any referance as such where, just reciting some mantras actually

> > bring changes in the world? (without even having siddhis of those mantras)

> >

> > Secondly we should not forget that masters are sitting in Siddhashram, and

> > do take necessary steps when needed. I think we are too infant to think of

> > world level issues. Even though we solve our own problems and help

> > Gurubhais, its enough.

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> > Anand

> > Anand's Knowledge Series:

> >

> > /

> > Tantra Public chat room: http://xat.com/ISSP

> >

> > --- On *Wed, 22/4/09, gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123* wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123

> > Re: way to stop terrorism and attaining peace

> >

> > Wednesday, 22 April, 2009, 5:48 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > we shud all do 10 mahavidya mantras and focus

> > on saudi arabia and pakistan so they r reverted

> > back to pre islamic days and jihad on hindus is

> > destroyed.

> >

> >

> > om shakti

> >

> > gopal

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On 4/8/09, Shilpa Gupta <shilpa_g2 (AT) zapak (DOT)

com<http://in.mc947.mail./mc/compose?to=shilpa_g2>

> > wrote:

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Nashkar to all

> >>

> >> Now a days we see a lot of unrest, wars and terror attacks on innocent

> >> people..

> >>

> >> Is there no way to stop them any pooja or homam or jaapam to attain peace

> >> in the world.. and stopping these terrorists..

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

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dear gurubhai,

 

thank,i just rcvd the mtvy mag this wk.i will chk read

and definately do something abt it.

 

 

 

om shakti

 

gopal

 

 

On 4/25/09, piyush madan <piymadan_2007 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

jai gurudev

gurudevji has mentioned about the kritya in the march magzine of this yeari.e, 2009 to stop terrorism in the country. The gurudevji has mentioned about the kritya in the parvachan i.e. the beginning of the magzine.

He has told the whole story of the kritya, the birth of the kritya. How kritya was originated??

he has also asked us to use this power to stop terrorism...... 

 

 

 

Khatri Anand <khatrianand

Thursday, 23 April, 2009 1:44:55 PMRe: way to stop terrorism and attaining peace

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jai Gurudev,

 

(With all due respect to Gopalji)Is that possible Gopalji ?Or is just one of your idea? 

Is there any referance as such where, just reciting some mantras actually bring changes in the world? (without even having siddhis of those mantras)

 

Secondly we should not forget that masters are sitting in Siddhashram, and do take necessary steps when needed. I think we are too infant to think of world level issues. Even though we solve our own problems and help Gurubhais, its enough.

 

Regards,AnandAnand's Knowledge Series: http://groups. / group/guru- nikhil/

Tantra Public chat room: http://xat.com/ ISSP--- On Wed, 22/4/09, gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123@ gmail.com> wrote:

 

gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123@ gmail.com>

Re: way to stop terrorism and attaining peace@ s.com

Wednesday, 22 April, 2009, 5:48 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

we shud all do 10 mahavidya mantras and focus

on saudi arabia and pakistan so they r reverted

back to pre islamic days and jihad on hindus is

destroyed.

 

 

om shakti

 

gopal

 

 

On 4/8/09, Shilpa Gupta <shilpa_g2 (AT) zapak (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

Nashkar to allNow a days we see a lot of unrest, wars and terror attacks on innocent people..Is there no way to stop them any pooja or homam or jaapam to attain peace in the world.. and stopping these terrorists..

 

 

 

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Gurucharan Kamlebhyo NamaH

 

Mere pyare gurubhaiyon aur guru behno apko mera namaskar

 

 

 

I was reading mails posted by Gurubhai Gopal, Anand, and Gurubehan Shilpa. I

would like to add in something what I feel about Muslims, Christians, terrorism,

and other points raised.

 

Firstly ..I do no think that if someone is a muslims or a christian or anyone

else is different person than we are. I see spiritualism like Ganges and all

dharmas like different ghats on its bank. You may say Sanatan Dharma, Islam,

Christianity or whatever...we draw our inspiration from the same source. Some

ghats are wide and some smaller ones. If u look closely you will not find

yourself different from a muslim or a christian for the fact that we are all

devotees of the same Guru, though we may give different names to our Gurudev.

 

The Chinese, Japanese, Taiwanese, Sri Lankans, and others they worship Lord

Buddha but who is Buddha ....Buddha is one of the Das Avataars of Lord Vishnu

and Buddha is a Guru who is a Guru…Siva is the Guru and Guru is Siva and the one

who tries to differentiate between these two will go to Narak (Lord Siva says).

 

Similarly the Christians adore Jesus but who is Jesus. He is none other but a

Guru, though it is a different matter that now no one follows Jesus but they

follow the church.

 

The muslims worship Kabba but do you know that Kaba templs is an ancient Hindu

temple and they go round the temple 7 times like Hindus go around their deities.

The black Kabba that is closed and one one can see inside of which, has idols of

9 planets (Nava Graha)

 

It might come as a stunning revelation to many that the word `ALLAH' itself is

Sanskrit. In Sanskrit language Allah, Akka and Amba are synonyms. They signify a

goddess or mother. The term `ALLAH' forms part of Sanskrit chants invoking

goddess Durga, also known as Bhavani, Chandi and Mahishasurmardini.

 

 

The Islamic practice of Bakari Eed derives from the Go-Medh and Ashva-Medh

Yagnas or sacrifices of Vedic times. Eed in Sanskrit means worship. The Islamic

word Eed for festive days, signifying days of worship, is therefore a pure

Sanskrit word. The word MESH in the Hindu zodiac signifies a lamb. Since in

ancient times the year used to begin with the entry of the sun in Aries, the

occasion was celebrated with mutton feasting. That is the origin of the Bakari

Eed festival.

 

 

The word Bakari is an Indian language word for a goat

 

 

Since Eed means worship and Griha means `house', the Islamic word Idgah

signifies a `House of worship.'

 

Similarly the word `Namaz' derives from two Sanskrit roots `Nama' and `Yajna'

(NAMa yAJna) meaning bowing and worshipping.

 

Recital of the Namaz five times a day owes its origin to the Vedic injunction of

Panchmahayagna (five daily worship- Panch-Maha-Yagna) which is part of the daily

Vedic ritual prescribed for all individuals

 

Four months of the year are regarded as very sacred in Islamic custom. The

devout are enjoined to abstain from plunder and other evil deeds during that

period. This originates in the Chaturmasa i.e., the four-month period of special

vows and austerities in Hindu tradition.

 

 

Shabibarat is the corrupt form of Shiva Vrat and Shiva Ratra. Since the Kaaba

has been an important centre of Shiva (Siva) worship from times immemorial, the

Shivaratri festival used to be celebrated there with great gusto. It is that

festival which is signified by the Islamic word Shabibarat.

 

 

The Islamic term `Eed-ul-Fitr' derives from the `Eed of Piters' that is worship

of forefathers in Sanskrit tradition. In India, Hindus commemorate their

ancestors during the Pitr-Paksha that is the fortnight reserved for their

remembrance. The very same is the significance of `Eed-ul-Fitr' (worship of

forefathers).

 

 

 

The Islamic practice of observing the moon rise before deciding on celebrating

the occasion derives from the Hindu custom of breaking fast on Sankranti and

Vinayaki Chaturthi only after sighting the moon.

 

There are many many other points to think upon. Why i quoted the above points

is just to tell you that there may be difference in perception but this whole

world is " Guru maya " the maaya of Guru.

 

We are all worshipping Devadidev Mahadev and the Guru tatva in similar or

different form. We are all one but just ways are different. Some may worship

Ma Durga and other may be a devotee of a Sadd Guru but if you see closely they

are both worshipping Lord Siva, Lord Vishnu and Lord Brahma in some or the other

way.

 

 

There is so much blood shed now a days because there is a steep climb down from

great values of the past. People feel shame in observing the traditions and

customs and puja and japa that the ancient peopole our grandfathers and

forefathers did. We dont find time now and we take pride in drinking a coke,

eating a pizza or a burger.

 

There will be more bloodshed because we continue to fall and our values continue

to diminish.

 

 

All the temples, gurudwaras and puja places destroyed in Pakistan, Afganistan do

you think this act of some people is going to be unpunished. The land where the

people destroyed the house of God are paying for it. You destroy the temples

and see what is the result. The same Pakistan and Afganistan, which once

enjoyed a very good position are reduced to a minscule. Compare them with India

the land of temples and Gods.

 

 

Gurudev has said that to confront terrosim the answer is Kritya. Please go

through MTY just one to two months back. He has spoken extensively on that.

 

 

Last thing I want to remind, I was just going through one MTY is that Gurudev

has said that all Guru parivar when writing mails or letters should begin with

" Shri Guru Charan Kamlebhyo NamaH " and that we should not drink cold drinks or

eat burgers or pizza.

 

Vande Nikhilam

 

somy

[Guest guest]

Jai maa Jayadhurga

Very informative and thoughtful.Thanks for sharing this with all guru bhais.

Regards

 

 

, " somybist " <somybist wrote:

>

> Gurucharan Kamlebhyo NamaH

>

> Mere pyare gurubhaiyon aur guru behno apko mera namaskar

>

>

>

> I was reading mails posted by Gurubhai Gopal, Anand, and Gurubehan Shilpa. I

would like to add in something what I feel about Muslims, Christians, terrorism,

and other points raised.

>

> Firstly ..I do no think that if someone is a muslims or a christian or anyone

else is different person than we are. I see spiritualism like Ganges and all

dharmas like different ghats on its bank. You may say Sanatan Dharma, Islam,

Christianity or whatever...we draw our inspiration from the same source. Some

ghats are wide and some smaller ones. If u look closely you will not find

yourself different from a muslim or a christian for the fact that we are all

devotees of the same Guru, though we may give different names to our Gurudev.

>

> The Chinese, Japanese, Taiwanese, Sri Lankans, and others they worship Lord

Buddha but who is Buddha ....Buddha is one of the Das Avataars of Lord Vishnu

and Buddha is a Guru who is a Guru…Siva is the Guru and Guru is Siva and the one

who tries to differentiate between these two will go to Narak (Lord Siva says).

>

> Similarly the Christians adore Jesus but who is Jesus. He is none other but a

Guru, though it is a different matter that now no one follows Jesus but they

follow the church.

>

> The muslims worship Kabba but do you know that Kaba templs is an ancient Hindu

temple and they go round the temple 7 times like Hindus go around their deities.

The black Kabba that is closed and one one can see inside of which, has idols of

9 planets (Nava Graha)

>

> It might come as a stunning revelation to many that the word `ALLAH' itself is

Sanskrit. In Sanskrit language Allah, Akka and Amba are synonyms. They signify a

goddess or mother. The term `ALLAH' forms part of Sanskrit chants invoking

goddess Durga, also known as Bhavani, Chandi and Mahishasurmardini.

>

>

> The Islamic practice of Bakari Eed derives from the Go-Medh and Ashva-Medh

Yagnas or sacrifices of Vedic times. Eed in Sanskrit means worship. The Islamic

word Eed for festive days, signifying days of worship, is therefore a pure

Sanskrit word. The word MESH in the Hindu zodiac signifies a lamb. Since in

ancient times the year used to begin with the entry of the sun in Aries, the

occasion was celebrated with mutton feasting. That is the origin of the Bakari

Eed festival.

>

>

> The word Bakari is an Indian language word for a goat

>

>

> Since Eed means worship and Griha means `house', the Islamic word Idgah

signifies a `House of worship.'

>

> Similarly the word `Namaz' derives from two Sanskrit roots `Nama' and `Yajna'

(NAMa yAJna) meaning bowing and worshipping.

>

> Recital of the Namaz five times a day owes its origin to the Vedic injunction

of Panchmahayagna (five daily worship- Panch-Maha-Yagna) which is part of the

daily Vedic ritual prescribed for all individuals

>

> Four months of the year are regarded as very sacred in Islamic custom. The

devout are enjoined to abstain from plunder and other evil deeds during that

period. This originates in the Chaturmasa i.e., the four-month period of special

vows and austerities in Hindu tradition.

>

>

> Shabibarat is the corrupt form of Shiva Vrat and Shiva Ratra. Since the Kaaba

has been an important centre of Shiva (Siva) worship from times immemorial, the

Shivaratri festival used to be celebrated there with great gusto. It is that

festival which is signified by the Islamic word Shabibarat.

>

>

> The Islamic term `Eed-ul-Fitr' derives from the `Eed of Piters' that is

worship of forefathers in Sanskrit tradition. In India, Hindus commemorate their

ancestors during the Pitr-Paksha that is the fortnight reserved for their

remembrance. The very same is the significance of `Eed-ul-Fitr' (worship of

forefathers).

>

>

>

> The Islamic practice of observing the moon rise before deciding on celebrating

the occasion derives from the Hindu custom of breaking fast on Sankranti and

Vinayaki Chaturthi only after sighting the moon.

>

> There are many many other points to think upon. Why i quoted the above points

is just to tell you that there may be difference in perception but this whole

world is " Guru maya " the maaya of Guru.

>

> We are all worshipping Devadidev Mahadev and the Guru tatva in similar or

different form. We are all one but just ways are different. Some may worship

Ma Durga and other may be a devotee of a Sadd Guru but if you see closely they

are both worshipping Lord Siva, Lord Vishnu and Lord Brahma in some or the other

way.

>

>

> There is so much blood shed now a days because there is a steep climb down

from great values of the past. People feel shame in observing the traditions

and customs and puja and japa that the ancient peopole our grandfathers and

forefathers did. We dont find time now and we take pride in drinking a coke,

eating a pizza or a burger.

>

> There will be more bloodshed because we continue to fall and our values

continue to diminish.

>

>

> All the temples, gurudwaras and puja places destroyed in Pakistan, Afganistan

do you think this act of some people is going to be unpunished. The land where

the people destroyed the house of God are paying for it. You destroy the

temples and see what is the result. The same Pakistan and Afganistan, which

once enjoyed a very good position are reduced to a minscule. Compare them with

India the land of temples and Gods.

>

>

> Gurudev has said that to confront terrosim the answer is Kritya. Please go

through MTY just one to two months back. He has spoken extensively on that.

>

>

> Last thing I want to remind, I was just going through one MTY is that Gurudev

has said that all Guru parivar when writing mails or letters should begin with

" Shri Guru Charan Kamlebhyo NamaH " and that we should not drink cold drinks or

eat burgers or pizza.

>

> Vande Nikhilam

>

> somy

>

[Guest guest]

Shree Guru charan Kamalebheyo Namah,

 

Great mail, Thanks Somy For posting this type of mail.

 

Jai Gurudev

 

--- On Wed, 29/4/09, somybist <somybist wrote:

somybist <somybist Re: way to stop terrorism and attaining peace Date: Wednesday, 29 April, 2009, 6:31 AM

 

 

Gurucharan Kamlebhyo NamaH Mere pyare gurubhaiyon aur guru behno apko mera namaskarI was reading mails posted by Gurubhai Gopal, Anand, and Gurubehan Shilpa. I would like to add in something what I feel about Muslims, Christians, terrorism, and other points raised. Firstly ..I do no think that if someone is a muslims or a christian or anyone else is different person than we are. I see spiritualism like Ganges and all dharmas like different ghats on its bank. You may say Sanatan Dharma, Islam, Christianity or whatever...we draw our inspiration from the same source. Some ghats are wide and some smaller ones. If u look closely you will not find yourself different from a muslim or a christian for the fact that we are all devotees of the same Guru, though we may give different names to our Gurudev. The Chinese, Japanese, Taiwanese, Sri Lankans, and others they worship Lord Buddha but who is Buddha ....Buddha is one of the

Das Avataars of Lord Vishnu and Buddha is a Guru who is a Guru…Siva is the Guru and Guru is Siva and the one who tries to differentiate between these two will go to Narak (Lord Siva says).Similarly the Christians adore Jesus but who is Jesus. He is none other but a Guru, though it is a different matter that now no one follows Jesus but they follow the church.The muslims worship Kabba but do you know that Kaba templs is an ancient Hindu temple and they go round the temple 7 times like Hindus go around their deities. The black Kabba that is closed and one one can see inside of which, has idols of 9 planets (Nava Graha)It might come as a stunning revelation to many that the word `ALLAH' itself is Sanskrit. In Sanskrit language Allah, Akka and Amba are synonyms. They signify a goddess or mother. The term `ALLAH' forms part of Sanskrit chants invoking goddess Durga, also known as Bhavani, Chandi and Mahishasurmardini. The

Islamic practice of Bakari Eed derives from the Go-Medh and Ashva-Medh Yagnas or sacrifices of Vedic times. Eed in Sanskrit means worship. The Islamic word Eed for festive days, signifying days of worship, is therefore a pure Sanskrit word. The word MESH in the Hindu zodiac signifies a lamb. Since in ancient times the year used to begin with the entry of the sun in Aries, the occasion was celebrated with mutton feasting. That is the origin of the Bakari Eed festival.The word Bakari is an Indian language word for a goatSince Eed means worship and Griha means `house', the Islamic word Idgah signifies a `House of worship.'Similarly the word `Namaz' derives from two Sanskrit roots `Nama' and `Yajna' (NAMa yAJna) meaning bowing and worshipping.Recital of the Namaz five times a day owes its origin to the Vedic injunction of Panchmahayagna (five daily worship- Panch-Maha-Yagna) which is part of the daily Vedic ritual prescribed

for all individualsFour months of the year are regarded as very sacred in Islamic custom. The devout are enjoined to abstain from plunder and other evil deeds during that period. This originates in the Chaturmasa i.e.., the four-month period of special vows and austerities in Hindu tradition.. Shabibarat is the corrupt form of Shiva Vrat and Shiva Ratra. Since the Kaaba has been an important centre of Shiva (Siva) worship from times immemorial, the Shivaratri festival used to be celebrated there with great gusto. It is that festival which is signified by the Islamic word Shabibarat.The Islamic term `Eed-ul-Fitr' derives from the `Eed of Piters' that is worship of forefathers in Sanskrit tradition. In India, Hindus commemorate their ancestors during the Pitr-Paksha that is the fortnight reserved for their remembrance. The very same is the significance of `Eed-ul-Fitr' (worship of forefathers) .The Islamic practice of

observing the moon rise before deciding on celebrating the occasion derives from the Hindu custom of breaking fast on Sankranti and Vinayaki Chaturthi only after sighting the moon.There are many many other points to think upon. Why i quoted the above points is just to tell you that there may be difference in perception but this whole world is "Guru maya" the maaya of Guru.We are all worshipping Devadidev Mahadev and the Guru tatva in similar or different form. We are all one but just ways are different. Some may worship Ma Durga and other may be a devotee of a Sadd Guru but if you see closely they are both worshipping Lord Siva, Lord Vishnu and Lord Brahma in some or the other way.There is so much blood shed now a days because there is a steep climb down from great values of the past. People feel shame in observing the traditions and customs and puja and japa that the ancient peopole our grandfathers and forefathers did. We dont

find time now and we take pride in drinking a coke, eating a pizza or a burger. There will be more bloodshed because we continue to fall and our values continue to diminish. All the temples, gurudwaras and puja places destroyed in Pakistan, Afganistan do you think this act of some people is going to be unpunished. The land where the people destroyed the house of God are paying for it. You destroy the temples and see what is the result. The same Pakistan and Afganistan, which once enjoyed a very good position are reduced to a minscule. Compare them with India the land of temples and Gods. Gurudev has said that to confront terrosim the answer is Kritya. Please go through MTY just one to two months back. He has spoken extensively on that.Last thing I want to remind, I was just going through one MTY is that Gurudev has said that all Guru parivar when writing mails or letters should begin with "Shri Guru Charan Kamlebhyo

NamaH" and that we should not drink cold drinks or eat burgers or pizza.Vande Nikhilamsomy

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namaste friend,

hi, i am a great fan of yours as u help others all the ways u can.but i would just like to know that how could Nepal be a threat to India. Jai Shambhu --- On Fri, 4/24/09, gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123 wrote:

gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123Re: way to stop terrorism and attaining peace Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 2:21 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear friend,

 

 

india is facing very difficult situation.pakistan, china,mayanmar- burma,

nepal,bangladesh srilanka etc r a threat to our country and to us

and our way of life - sanatan dharma.

 

on top,congress- sp-bsp-commies etc r helping the

christian/islamic crusaders/jihaids and english

and hindi news channels r agent of foreigners.

 

 

i will tell u 1 real story :

 

a friend of mine had a court case where he had lent some money

to someone ahd was not returning the money.

 

this friend downloaded the pic of mother baglamukhi from net,

and the mantra and started doing it daily,without doing the 125000

mantras,and amazingly he won the case,despite there was no

hope of getting money back,the person who had taken money

returned it.

 

what does this prove ???

 

" sharanagat dinartha paritryan parayane sarva syarti hare devi narayani namostute "

 

in srimad devi bhagwat puran,in srimad bhagwat pura,in shiv puran

there r numerous cases where people by their devotion have

pleased god and they have been successful in getting their goal.

 

the gods r here to help us in the goal of

saving hindu society and they will not

sit and count how many mala we did,but

surely will see our devotion and help.

 

the stories of rishi markandeya [ creator of puranoktka mahamrityunjaya mantra ]

prahlad etc r there for all to know.

 

beside these stories of miracles of bhakta janabai,tukaram, narsingh mehta

etc r well known today.

 

this is kaliyug the yug of bhakti.

 

the gods surely know our problems and surely they will help us if we sincerely

try.

 

there is something above tantra and that is selfless devotion,and

we shud devote ourself selflessly to preserving our country

and religion and also do mantras and surely the gods will help.

and tantra can help to do it faster.

 

why shud we doubt the gods ? they will help,even if we dont

do purashcharan as i observed in some cases and my personal friend's

case.

 

i am very sure,that if we devote some time of our prayer to pray for

bharat mata and hindu dharma,and also try to spread

our phylosophy and teach our chilren abt hindu dharma we

will win.

 

i do all of the above teach my children abt the

puranas,and also various mantra etc.

 

u can differ in yr views,i dont mind,but if we sincerely pray

to the gods they will answer,bcoz ultimately it survival of

dharma.

 

 

om shakti

 

 

gopal

 

 

 

 

 

On 4/23/09, Khatri Anand <khatrianand@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jai Gurudev,

 

(With all due respect to Gopalji)Is that possible Gopalji ?Or is just one of your idea?

Is there any referance as such where, just reciting some mantras actually bring changes in the world? (without even having siddhis of those mantras)

 

Secondly we should not forget that masters are sitting in Siddhashram, and do take necessary steps when needed. I think we are too infant to think of world level issues. Even though we solve our own problems and help Gurubhais, its enough.

Regards,AnandAnand's Knowledge Series: http://groups. / group/guru- nikhil/Tantra Public chat room: http://xat.com/ ISSP--- On Wed, 22/4/09, gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123@ gmail.com> wrote:

gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123@ gmail.com>Re: way to stop terrorism and attaining peace@ s.comWednesday, 22 April, 2009, 5:48 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

we shud all do 10 mahavidya mantras and focus

on saudi arabia and pakistan so they r reverted

back to pre islamic days and jihad on hindus is

destroyed.

 

 

om shakti

 

gopal

 

 

On 4/8/09, Shilpa Gupta <shilpa_g2 (AT) zapak (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

Nashkar to allNow a days we see a lot of unrest, wars and terror attacks on innocent people..Is there no way to stop them any pooja or homam or jaapam to attain peace in the world.. and stopping these terrorists..

 

 

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