Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 Dear Jagmeet, What was the marriage date and date of seperation. Here in the girls chart 6th lord is in 4th house i.e. House D. Guru is with low bindus and is in 10th from Venus with high points so Venus is giving its power. This makes Guru very malefic. Shani is the FK or LOA and is situated in 6th house. There is moderate delay in the chart but Shani is in Navamsa of Guru so Shani and shani is natural samdharmi to Venus the 6th lord. Guru is the strongest significator but its become strong due to 6th lord so itself or its samdhamri can give result. So this lady may have married in Venus antra (samdharmi to Guru) and in House D with 5 bindus. i.e. 1996/10 thru 1999/06. In the 2nd sector i.e. 1997/09 thru 1998/07. Divorse may have taken place in Mars antra who is LOE i..e 2001/08 thru 2002/07. Can you please confirm the same please..... Very interesting chart for study... Thanks , jagmeet dheendsa <jsdheendsa@j...> wrote: > Dear friends, > How are the following two compatability wise: > Girl:6 Feb 1972 > TOB:04:45 > LONG:075E47 > LAT:031N01 > INDIA > She is a divorcee > BOY:18 JUNE 1971 > TOB:06:30 > lONG:074E53 > lAT:031N35 > INDIA > First time marriage > Both are in USA. > With regards, > Jagmeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 Sorry I had to send an incomplete mail.. but I also wanted to add the fact that LOE who is Mars is in Navamsa of Venus the 6th lord. So here both LOD and LOE are spoilt, LOD by virtue of 6th lord and getting points from it and LOE due to becoming samdharmi by virtue of its placement in Navamsa. 6th lord Karak for marriage Shani is again associated with 6th house by being palced into it. For 7th house 5 planets are strong. Moon = 20 Mars = 21 Merc = 15 Guru = 26 Venus = 12 All these planets are spoilt by 6th lord so cannot give pure happiness. 1) Now Venus is placed in navamsa of Moon so becomes samdharmi to Moon. 2) Mars is in navamsa of Venus so becomes samdharmi to it. 3) Mercury is again in navamsa of Venus so becomes samdharmi to it 4) Guru gets points from 6th lord Venus so becomes highest level samdharmi to Venus. 5) Venus is the 6th lord and with 12 points. Saturn and Sun have 10 points each and are weak for 7th house matters. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > Dear Jagmeet, > What was the marriage date and date of seperation. > > Here in the girls chart 6th lord is in 4th house i.e. House D. > Guru is with low bindus and is in 10th from Venus with high points > so Venus is giving its power. This makes Guru very malefic. > > Shani is the FK or LOA and is situated in 6th house. > > There is moderate delay in the chart but Shani is in Navamsa of Guru > so Shani and shani is natural samdharmi to Venus the 6th lord. > > Guru is the strongest significator but its become strong due to 6th > lord so itself or its samdhamri can give result. > > So this lady may have married in Venus antra (samdharmi to Guru) and > in House D with 5 bindus. > > i.e. 1996/10 thru 1999/06. In the 2nd sector i.e. 1997/09 thru > 1998/07. > > Divorse may have taken place in Mars antra who is LOE i..e 2001/08 > thru 2002/07. > > Can you please confirm the same please..... > > Very interesting chart for study... > > Thanks > > , jagmeet dheendsa > <jsdheendsa@j...> wrote: > > Dear friends, > > How are the following two compatability wise: > > Girl:6 Feb 1972 > > TOB:04:45 > > LONG:075E47 > > LAT:031N01 > > INDIA > > She is a divorcee > > BOY:18 JUNE 1971 > > TOB:06:30 > > lONG:074E53 > > lAT:031N35 > > INDIA > > First time marriage > > Both are in USA. > > With regards, > > Jagmeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 Dear Jagmeet and list members, I casted the chart for the boy and I am not getting that much delay. Would love another set of eyes or Jagmeet can u confirm on the accuracy of the birth data of the boy.. Am getting Gemini Ascendent with Pisces Navamsa with Krushnas ayanamsa. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , jagmeet dheendsa <jsdheendsa@j...> wrote: > Dear friends, > How are the following two compatability wise: > Girl:6 Feb 1972 > TOB:04:45 > LONG:075E47 > LAT:031N01 > INDIA > She is a divorcee > BOY:18 JUNE 1971 > TOB:06:30 > lONG:074E53 > lAT:031N35 > INDIA > First time marriage > Both are in USA. > With regards, > Jagmeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 Dear Ash, Thanks for the quick reply where you got the first marriage time window correct with the aproximate time of birth,though lagna does not change from 4-5 am with Krushna Ji's Aynamsa. First marriage date:07 Feb 1998 Divorce:09 March 2001 With regards, Jagmeet PS.As per Krushna Aynamsa I alse got Gemni lagna and Sag Navamsa for the boy.The girl's is Dhanu lagna and cancer navamsa.Both of them are not sure about the time.To make it easy for the members I wanted to post the charts as per JHORA and Krishna Aynamsa but I was bit wary because I have seen on some lists a marked hostility to other vedic groups and I like to have peace all around.(Though I am personally agressive and blunt) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 Dear Ash, Date of divorce is 9 April 2001. With regards, Jagmeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 Hello Ash, I was thinkig that NK and FK are rather spoiled. NK Venus is with Saturn in rasi and aspected by Saturn in navamsa. FK is Moon and she is spoiled by aspect of Mars lord of 12th from B. Mars also spoils house A. For an event to happen, the karakas must be healthy. I find also Moon very weak in first degree Aries. Jupiter, lord of B is in the 12th, not a nice house to live in either. Looking at the dasas/buktis and starting from Venus/Saturn we see that Saturn could not give results. Next comes Mercury who is in 6th lord constellation; Ketu is Moon/Mercury/Saturn, so not too eager to do the job; Sun/Sun is aspecting house B; poor Moon is too weak; Mars is aspecting house A and is 6th lord. Rahu is associated with 6th lord; Jupiter is aspecting house A; Saturn is aspecting house A, etc.....so finally it's Venus who can give a result; this from may 2003 on. I think late marriage is thus caused by the fact that the karakas are spoiled and of course because of "technical" reasons. I'm getting same asc for boy in rasi and navamsa. Best regards Margarita ashsam73 [ashsam73]Friday, July 11, 2003 11:03 AM Subject: Re: Marriage compatabilityDear Jagmeet and list members,I casted the chart for the boy and I am not getting that much delay.Would love another set of eyes or Jagmeet can u confirm on the accuracy of the birth data of the boy..Am getting Gemini Ascendent with Pisces Navamsa with Krushnas ayanamsa.Thanking you,Cheers !!!Ash , jagmeet dheendsa <jsdheendsa@j...> wrote:> Dear friends,> How are the following two compatability wise:> Girl:6 Feb 1972> TOB:04:45> LONG:075E47> LAT:031N01> INDIA> She is a divorcee> BOY:18 JUNE 1971> TOB:06:30> lONG:074E53> lAT:031N35> INDIA> First time marriage> Both are in USA.> With regards,> Jagmeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 Dear Margarita, Jagmeet gave the answer. The antra I chose was Venus. I did think of Gurus antra but Shanis delay got over only after Gurus antra had passed. But you are right. Guru is spoit but it has most power to give marriage but Malefic result but since its antra is over its highest level Samdharmi i.e. 4:10 relationship i.e. Venus gave who is 6th lord. As you know when marriage happens in 6th lord it will break in LOD or LOE or highest significator. So I chose Mars as being LOD to break it. That was my logic. I think this lady only seperated from her husband in " mind " after August (or some where near that time or else birth data needs to be twicked a little). So Marriage period was right and it was indeed in the 2nd sector but the divorse date is off by about 4 months.. I did not narrow it down further with transit of sun as I wanted to see if atleast high level analysis was correct. Refer to Jagmeets answer /message/5310 /message/5311 Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " dirk & margarita lettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Ash, > I was just thinking that she could have married in Jup/Jup and that therefor > the marriage broke up??? > Aspect from Saturn on house C cannot give delay on its own an as you > explained well, we see influence of the 6th lord on Jupiter > Could you give your opinion please > Best regards > Margarita > > ashsam73 [ashsam73@h...] > Friday, July 11, 2003 10:22 AM > > Re: Marriage compatability > > > Sorry I had to send an incomplete mail.. but I also wanted to add > the fact that LOE who is Mars is in Navamsa of Venus the 6th lord. > > So here both LOD and LOE are spoilt, LOD by virtue of 6th lord and > getting points from it and LOE due to becoming samdharmi by virtue > of its placement in Navamsa. 6th lord Karak for marriage Shani is > again associated with 6th house by being palced into it. > > For 7th house 5 planets are strong. > > Moon = 20 > Mars = 21 > Merc = 15 > Guru = 26 > Venus = 12 > > All these planets are spoilt by 6th lord so cannot give pure > happiness. > > 1) Now Venus is placed in navamsa of Moon so becomes samdharmi to > Moon. > > 2) Mars is in navamsa of Venus so becomes samdharmi to it. > > 3) Mercury is again in navamsa of Venus so becomes samdharmi to it > > 4) Guru gets points from 6th lord Venus so becomes highest level > samdharmi to Venus. > > 5) Venus is the 6th lord and with 12 points. > > Saturn and Sun have 10 points each and are weak for 7th house > matters. > > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > > Dear Jagmeet, > > What was the marriage date and date of seperation. > > > > Here in the girls chart 6th lord is in 4th house i.e. House D. > > Guru is with low bindus and is in 10th from Venus with high points > > so Venus is giving its power. This makes Guru very malefic. > > > > Shani is the FK or LOA and is situated in 6th house. > > > > There is moderate delay in the chart but Shani is in Navamsa of > Guru > > so Shani and shani is natural samdharmi to Venus the 6th lord. > > > > Guru is the strongest significator but its become strong due to > 6th > > lord so itself or its samdhamri can give result. > > > > So this lady may have married in Venus antra (samdharmi to Guru) > and > > in House D with 5 bindus. > > > > i.e. 1996/10 thru 1999/06. In the 2nd sector i.e. 1997/09 thru > > 1998/07. > > > > Divorse may have taken place in Mars antra who is LOE i..e 2001/08 > > thru 2002/07. > > > > Can you please confirm the same please..... > > > > Very interesting chart for study... > > > > Thanks > > > > , jagmeet dheendsa > > <jsdheendsa@j...> wrote: > > > Dear friends, > > > How are the following two compatability wise: > > > Girl:6 Feb 1972 > > > TOB:04:45 > > > LONG:075E47 > > > LAT:031N01 > > > INDIA > > > She is a divorcee > > > BOY:18 JUNE 1971 > > > TOB:06:30 > > > lONG:074E53 > > > lAT:031N35 > > > INDIA > > > First time marriage > > > Both are in USA. > > > With regards, > > > Jagmeet > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 Dear Jagmeet, Krushnaji has started this list to teach us this wonderful system. I use JHL lite version. I do not think you can save the value of ayanamsa in that atleast not in the lite version. Its needs to be manually added each time. Also you need to change the check boxes for getting Varharamiras scheme for AV or else by default it gives Parasaras scheme. On this list its advised to use Varharamiras scheme. Other members use different programs. Some PL and some GJ and some maybe others that I dont know off. So we on this list keep a standard of Writing down the planetary position with their degrees and navamsa rising. So that when charts are casted it can be verified. You can refer some old emails in the archives to get an idea. Jagmeet, if you also notice the boys planets are on the border and little change in birth time can change the positions. So I feel that we should first get the plaetary positions proper before matching. If you just generally want to see the chemistry or compatibility you can check the relation between Rahu, Shani, Venus and Mars in both charts and for friendhship relation of Sun and Moon by overlapping charts asc over asc and sign over sign and see. But I feel that boys lagna and girls chart need little rectification which is a longer process as you know. I somehow could not get so much delay in the boys chart and for the girls chart I tried to time the event of marriage and divorse as you had given with the data give to verify that. That is why we generally ask for events as per the header on the list page askign for education, marritial, children etc so that we can match dates. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , jagmeet dheendsa <jsdheendsa@j...> wrote: > Dear Ash, > Thanks for the quick reply where you got the first marriage time window > correct with the aproximate time of birth,though lagna does not change > from 4-5 am with Krushna Ji's Aynamsa. > First marriage date:07 Feb 1998 > Divorce:09 March 2001 > With regards, > Jagmeet > PS.As per Krushna Aynamsa I alse got Gemni lagna and Sag Navamsa for the > boy.The girl's is Dhanu lagna and cancer navamsa.Both of them are not > sure about the time.To make it easy for the members I wanted to post the > charts as per JHORA and Krishna Aynamsa but I was bit wary because I have > seen on some lists a marked hostility to other vedic groups and I like to > have peace all around.(Though I am personally agressive and blunt) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 Yes Ash, Jagmeet's message came in when I sent mine. You got it right; it was a 6th lord job. It already is very fine to get so close to the real date; fine tuning will come with practice. Best regards Margarita ashsam73 [ashsam73]Friday, July 11, 2003 6:38 PM Subject: Re: Marriage compatabilityDear Margarita,Jagmeet gave the answer.The antra I chose was Venus. I did think of Gurus antra but Shanis delay got over only after Gurus antra had passed. But you are right. Guru is spoit but it has most power to give marriage but Malefic result but since its antra is over its highest level Samdharmi i.e. 4:10 relationship i.e. Venus gave who is 6th lord.As you know when marriage happens in 6th lord it will break in LOD or LOE or highest significator. So I chose Mars as being LOD to break it. That was my logic.I think this lady only seperated from her husband in "mind" after August (or some where near that time or else birth data needs to be twicked a little). So Marriage period was right and it was indeed in the 2nd sector but the divorse date is off by about 4 months.. I did not narrow it down further with transit of sun as I wanted to see if atleast high level analysis was correct.Refer to Jagmeets answer/message/5310/message/5311Thanking you,Cheers !!!Ash , "dirk & margarita lettens" <dmlettens@s...> wrote:> Hello Ash,> I was just thinking that she could have married in Jup/Jup and that therefor> the marriage broke up???> Aspect from Saturn on house C cannot give delay on its own an as you> explained well, we see influence of the 6th lord on Jupiter> Could you give your opinion please> Best regards> Margarita> > ashsam73 [ashsam73@h...]> Friday, July 11, 2003 10:22 AM> > Re: Marriage compatability> > > Sorry I had to send an incomplete mail.. but I also wanted to add> the fact that LOE who is Mars is in Navamsa of Venus the 6th lord.> > So here both LOD and LOE are spoilt, LOD by virtue of 6th lord and> getting points from it and LOE due to becoming samdharmi by virtue> of its placement in Navamsa. 6th lord Karak for marriage Shani is> again associated with 6th house by being palced into it.> > For 7th house 5 planets are strong.> > Moon = 20> Mars = 21> Merc = 15> Guru = 26> Venus = 12> > All these planets are spoilt by 6th lord so cannot give pure> happiness.> > 1) Now Venus is placed in navamsa of Moon so becomes samdharmi to> Moon.> > 2) Mars is in navamsa of Venus so becomes samdharmi to it.> > 3) Mercury is again in navamsa of Venus so becomes samdharmi to it> > 4) Guru gets points from 6th lord Venus so becomes highest level> samdharmi to Venus.> > 5) Venus is the 6th lord and with 12 points.> > Saturn and Sun have 10 points each and are weak for 7th house> matters.> > Thanking you,> Cheers !!!> Ash> > , "ashsam73"> <ashsam73@h...> wrote:> > Dear Jagmeet,> > What was the marriage date and date of seperation.> >> > Here in the girls chart 6th lord is in 4th house i.e. House D.> > Guru is with low bindus and is in 10th from Venus with high points> > so Venus is giving its power. This makes Guru very malefic.> >> > Shani is the FK or LOA and is situated in 6th house.> >> > There is moderate delay in the chart but Shani is in Navamsa of> Guru> > so Shani and shani is natural samdharmi to Venus the 6th lord.> >> > Guru is the strongest significator but its become strong due to> 6th> > lord so itself or its samdhamri can give result.> >> > So this lady may have married in Venus antra (samdharmi to Guru)> and> > in House D with 5 bindus.> >> > i.e. 1996/10 thru 1999/06. In the 2nd sector i.e. 1997/09 thru> > 1998/07.> >> > Divorse may have taken place in Mars antra who is LOE i..e 2001/08> > thru 2002/07.> >> > Can you please confirm the same please.....> >> > Very interesting chart for study...> >> > Thanks> >> > , jagmeet dheendsa> > <jsdheendsa@j...> wrote:> > > Dear friends,> > > How are the following two compatability wise:> > > Girl:6 Feb 1972> > > TOB:04:45> > > LONG:075E47> > > LAT:031N01> > > INDIA> > > She is a divorcee> > > BOY:18 JUNE 1971> > > TOB:06:30> > > lONG:074E53> > > lAT:031N35> > > INDIA> > > First time marriage> > > Both are in USA.> > > With regards,> > > Jagmeet> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 Dear Ash, Thanks .I use JHORA commercial version with Varamihra settings and Krushna Ji's Aynamsa from his sheet.The boy's moon changes house to 11th if TOB is after 06:20AM.Rest of the planets do not change. This will be an arranged marriage. The girl came to USA with her parents in 1990.She has one elder sister.She lost her father somtime in 1993. The boy came to USA in 1997.He has one younger brother.First marriage was also arranged marriage. From sun and moon there is not much compatability as they are in 6/8 posn.Lagna seem to fine as they are 1/7.Rahu,sat,mars venus are 4/10 or 3/11 which is ok.But as per traditional matching there are only 13 gun matching(which is better then mine and my wife's-we have only 12 out of max 32 and have lasted together for the last 21 years) With regards, Jagmeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 Dear Jagmeet, There is a huge difference when Moon moves from 10 to 11th house. Let me explain. When Moon is in 10th house its 3rd from Moon. Moon being in 10th house changes the dynamic of points i.e. giving and receiving support in relation to other planet. When Moon is in 10th the points of Mars is 3 i.e 3 bindus. Now when Moon moves into 11th, Mars now is not suported by Moon and its bindus drop to 2. Moon moves into 4th place from Mars who is 6th lord. Because mars has 2 bindus and Moon has 3, moon has to give its points to Mars thereby making mars very powrful and becoming samdharmi to it. You will also mark.. just as Margarita had pointed out.. Moon is Karak for marriage i.e. lord of 2nd house for Gemini ascendents. Such a moon has been spoilt. Mars, Mercury, Sun, Rahu, Jupiter (same navamsa as Mars), Moon are all related to Mars i.e has become samdharmi. All the best to the couple..... Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , jagmeet dheendsa <jsdheendsa@j...> wrote: > Dear Ash, > Thanks .I use JHORA commercial version with Varamihra settings and > Krushna Ji's Aynamsa from his sheet.The boy's moon changes house to 11th > if TOB is after 06:20AM.Rest of the planets do not change. > This will be an arranged marriage. > The girl came to USA with her parents in 1990.She has one elder > sister.She lost her father somtime in 1993. > The boy came to USA in 1997.He has one younger brother.First marriage was > also arranged marriage. > From sun and moon there is not much compatability as they are in 6/8 > posn.Lagna seem to fine as they are 1/7.Rahu,sat,mars venus are 4/10 or > 3/11 which is ok.But as per traditional matching there are only 13 gun > matching(which is better then mine and my wife's-we have only 12 out of > max 32 and have lasted together for the last 21 years) > With regards, > Jagmeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunithasiva Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Iam sending you the details of my brother and his wife.They got mmaried in february 2008. but now they are not together, I want to know, when they will be together ? if there is any pariharams let me know.All our family members are really worried.moreover is there any chance that both of them go abroad. chosen number is 1 Brother's Details date of birth-23.12.1978 time-12.55am place-madurai star-uthiram brother's wife details date of birth-14-7-1980 time-7.32pm place-chennai star-ayilyam thanks sunitha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webyogi Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Iam sending you the details of my brother and his wife.They gotmmaried in february 2008. but now they are not together, I want to know, when they will be together ? if there is any pariharams let me know.All our family members are really worried.moreover is there any chance that both of them go abroad. chosen number is 1 Brother's Details date of birth-23.12.1978 time-12.55am place-madurai star-uthiram brother's wife details date of birth-14-7-1980 time-7.32pm place-chennai star-ayilyam thanks sunitha Namaskar, Sri sandhu Ji has recently gave a simple way to help in such matters, I am writing the link here in case it helps you. http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/vedic astrology-jyotisha/453671-astrlogers-says-nothing-can-done-now-experts-please-advice.html -WebYogi- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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