Lord Krsna: Pandavas Cannot Act Like Brahmanas

suchandra · August 27, 2008

Although it is often mentioned that in this age of kali-yuga the sudras have to be elevated to become brahmanas (see quotes below) and only then it would be possible to become Vaishnava, "That means one has to come to the platform of brahmana. Then he can enter into devotional service."

When explaining the situation of the five Pandavas, it says, "they cannot become brahmana."

1. Causelessmercy - Room Conversation with Dr. John Mize - June 23, 1975, Los Angeles
That means one has to come to the platform of brahmana. Then he can enter into devotional service. Samah sarvesu bhutesu mad-bhaktiṁ labhate param [bg. 18.54 ] In that

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2. Causelessmercy - Srimad-Bhagavatam 5.5.23 - Vrndavana, November 10, 1976

Krsna consciousness movement is meant for elevating the animal class of men to the platform of brahmana. Therefore the sacred thread ceremony is given as second

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3. Causelessmercy - Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.9.49 - Mayapur, June 15, 1973

Krsna consciousness movement is so nice that even caṇḍalas can be also raised to the platform of brāhmana. Caṇḍalo pi dvija-śreṣṭho hari-bhakti-

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4. Causelessmercy - Room Conversation Varnasrama System Must Be Introduced February...

But because he s a śūdra, it is not possible to bring him immediately to the platform of brahmana, or Vaiṣṇava. Therefore falling down. Therefore system must be. But even

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5. Causelessmercy - Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.61 - Vrndavana, August 28, 1975

Without being in the platform of brahmana, you cannot make any spiritual progress. That is not A śūdra, a vaiśya But they can be trained up. Therefore Kṛṣṇa said,

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6. Causelessmercy - Srimad-Bhagavatam 7.9.39 - Mayapur, March 17, 1976

Therefore this is initiation, how to bring one to the platform of brahmana. Catur-varṇyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭaṁ guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ [bg. 4.13 ]. So this is necessary

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7. Causelessmercy - Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.2.20 - Vrndavana, October 31, 1972

knowledge, one comes to the platform of brahmana.So manuṣyāṇāṁ sahasreṣu kaścid yatati siddhaye. This is the platform of siddhi. But nobody is interested to become a

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8. Causelessmercy - Ebook - Sri Caitanya-caritamrta - Madya-lila - 17.1

However, there are many devotees who are raised to the platform of brahmana by their initiation. These people are called śūdra-mahājana. This indicates that one who is born

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9. Causelessmercy - Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.2.19 - Calcutta, September 27, 1974

Krsna consciousness movement we first of all bring anyone to the platform of brahmana. Therefore, at the time of second initiation, we offer the sacred thread, to

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10. Causelessmercy - The Nectar of Devotion - Vrndavana, October 24, 1972

But we should not take advantage of this. Actually, we should become on the platform of brahmana, qualified brāhmaṇa, qualification Vaiṣṇava so that others may not

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"But generally, there is no question of becoming violent, unnecessarily. As the modern politicians, unnecessarily they declare war, a Vaishnava does not do so. No, unnecessarily, there is no need of war. When it was completely impossible to settle up the things between the Pandavas and the Kauravas, then Krishna said, “All right, then there must be fight.” When Duryodhana declined to spare even a portion of land holding the sucyagra, the point of a needle… he refused that “I cannot spare even so much land which can hold the point of a needle.” Then the war was declared. There is no question of settlement. Otherwise, Krishna requested that “These five Paṇḍavas, they are ksatriyas. They cannot become merchant or brahmaṇa. Brahmana’s profession is pathana pathana yajana yajana dana pratigrahah. Brahmana can take charity from others. A sannyasi can take charity from others. Not a ksatriya or a grhastha. No. That is not allowed. “So they are ksatriyas; they cannot take the professions of a brahmana, neither they can take the profession of a mercantile man, business man. They must have some land so that rule over, take taxation. And that is their living means. So spare only five villages to these five brothers and settle up.” But Duryodhana replied, “No, Sir. What to speak of five villages, we cannot spare even so much land which can hold the point of needle.” Then the war was declared. So Vaishnava, they are non-violent. But if need be, they can become violent for Krishna’s sake. This is the Battle of Kuruksetra.