six essential qualifications for a good disciple

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From the Sri Vedanta Deshika (1268-1387) Sishyakrityadhikara section of the Srimad Rahasyatrayasara:

 

Six Essential Qualifications for a Good Disciple

 

1. The disciple should have the highest devotion for his preceptor.

 

2. The wise disciple spreads the good name and fame of his preceptor to others.

 

3. The good disciple takes care of the guru’s property and his posessions.

 

4. The good disciple protects his guru’s teachings with a view to transferring them to a worthy disciple of his own.

 

5. The good disciple is always grateful to his guru.

 

6. The good disciple leads a pure life untainted by wrong habits and practises. Indeed, he should have the eight virtues of the soul spoken

of by the sage Gautama:

 

Compassion, Patience, Contentment, Purity, Earnest Endeavour, Noble Thoughts, Absence of Greed, Absence of Envy.

[bhaktajan 0]

BG 10.34 . . . Among women I am fame, fortune, fine speech, memory, intelligence, steadfastness and patience.

PURPORT

. . . The seven opulences listed—fame, fortune, fine speech, memory, intelligence, steadfastness and patience—are considered feminine.

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If a person possesses all of them or some of them they become glorious. If a person is famous as a righteous man, that makes him glorious.

Sanskrit is a perfect language and is therefore very glorious. If after studying one can remember a subject matter, a person is gifted with a good memory, or smrti.

And the ability not only to read many books on different subject matters but to understand them and apply them when necessary is intelligence (medha), another opulence.

The ability to overcome unsteadiness is called firmness or steadfastness (dhrti).

And when one is fully qualified yet is humble and gentle, and when one is able to keep his balance both in sorrow and in the ecstasy of joy, he has the opulence called patience (ksama).

 

 

 

[bhaktajan 0]

"Bhagavan" (the personage of Godhead) = the one and only person who possesses all 6 opulences in full:

 

Inconceivable:

1- wealth,

2- power,

3- fame,

4- beauty,

5- knowledge, and,

6- renunciation.

 

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In his Bhagavat-sandarbha, Srila Jiva Gosvami states:

 

“The complete conception of the Absolute Truth is realized in the Personality of Godhead because He is almighty and possesses full transcendental potencies.

 

The full potency of the Absolute Truth is not realized in the brahmajyoti; therefore Brahman realization is only partial realization of the Personality of Godhead.

 

O learned sages, the first syllable of the word bhagavän (bha) has two meanings:

 

the first is ‘one who fully maintains,’ and

the second is ‘guardian.’

 

The second syllable (ga) means ‘guide,’ ‘leader’ or ‘creator.’

 

The syllable van indicates that every being lives in Him and that He also lives in every being.

 

In other words, the transcendental sound bhagavan represents

infinite knowledge,

potency,

energy,

opulence,

strength and

influence—all without a tinge of material inebriety.”

[suchandra 1]

 

From the Sri Vedanta Deshika (1268-1387) Sishyakrityadhikara section of the Srimad Rahasyatrayasara:

 

Six Essential Qualifications for a Good Disciple

 

1. The disciple should have the highest devotion for his preceptor.

 

2. The wise disciple spreads the good name and fame of his preceptor to others.

 

3. The good disciple takes care of the guru’s property and his posessions.

 

4. The good disciple protects his guru’s teachings with a view to transferring them to a worthy disciple of his own.

 

5. The good disciple is always grateful to his guru.

 

6. The good disciple leads a pure life untainted by wrong habits and practises. Indeed, he should have the eight virtues of the soul spoken

of by the sage Gautama:

 

Compassion, Patience, Contentment, Purity, Earnest Endeavour, Noble Thoughts, Absence of Greed, Absence of Envy.

 

Good point - we need more good disciples.

[Bishadi 0]

 

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If a person possesses all of them or some of them they become glorious. If a person is famous as a righteous man, that makes him glorious.

Okey Dokey!

 

So basically Einstein meets all them criteria and gave up sex as well and married only for "someone to do the laundry"........

 

 

If after studying one can remember a subject matter, a person is gifted with a good memory,

Einstein had the highest glial count of any brain ever examined; memories are fix crystaline structures in the brain matter (not binary electrical signaling); see polaritonics as the sciences just found that they can affix a wavelength upon a structure.....

 

Einstein had one of the greatest memories on earth. As well died with his studies on his lap; still in the 'do' mode............. gotta love em.

 

Problem is who is identifying who qualifies for doing Good?

 

Seems more people know the Big E, than most any other teacher and even as his intent was to do Good.... we can find another side to each coin.

 

This thread was about the disciples and what makes them Good, but apparently other posters may think the teacher definition is being questioned.....

hmmmm

 

[bhaktajan 0]

SB 5.18.12P . . . In the Ädi-lélä of Caitanya-caritämåta, Chapter Eight, there is a description of some of the qualities of devotees.

For example, Çré Paëòita Haridäsa is described as being very well-behaved, tolerant, peaceful, magnanimous and grave.

In addition, he spoke very sweetly, his endeavors were very pleasing, he was always patient, he respected everyone, he always worked for everyone’s benefit, his mind was free of duplicity, and he was completely devoid of all malicious activities.

These are all originally qualities of Kåñëa, and when one becomes a devotee they automatically become manifest.

Çré Kåñëadäsa Kaviräja, the author of Caitanya-caritämåta, says that all good qualities become manifest in the body of a Vaiñëava and that only by the presence of these good qualities can one distinguish a Vaiñëava from a non-Vaiñëava.

Kåñëadäsa Kaviräja lists the following twenty-six good qualities of a Vaiñëava:

(1) He is very kind to everyone.

(2) He does not make anyone his enemy.

(3) He is truthful.

(4) He is equal to everyone.

(5) No one can find any fault in him.

(6) He is magnanimous.

(7) He is mild.

(8) He is always clean.

(9) He is without possessions.

(10) He works for everyone’s benefit.

(11) He is very peaceful.

(12) He is always surrendered to Kåñëa.

(13) He has no material desires.

(14) He is very meek.

(15) He is steady.

(16) He controls his senses.

(17) He does not eat more than required.

(18) He is not influenced by the Lord’s illusory energy.

(19) He offers respect to everyone.

(20) He does not desire any respect for himself.

(21) He is very grave.

(22) He is merciful.

(23) He is friendly.

(24) He is poetic.

(25) He is expert.

(26) He is silent.

[bhaktajan 0]

Below are the symtoms of a Gentleman/Woman

 

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BG 13.8-12:

Humility;

pridelessness;

nonviolence;

tolerance;

simplicity;

approaching a bona fide spiritual master;

cleanliness;

steadiness;

self-control;

renunciation of the objects of sense gratification;

absence of false ego;

the perception of the evil of birth, death, old age and disease;

detachment;

freedom from entanglement with children, wife, home and the rest;

even-mindedness amid pleasant and unpleasant events;

constant and unalloyed devotion to Me;

aspiring to live in a solitary place;

detachment from the general mass of people;

accepting the importance of self-realization;

and philosophical search for the Absolute Truth—

 

all these I declare to be knowledge, and

besides this whatever there may be is ignorance.

 

 

 

Purport

 

. . . actually this is the real process of knowledge. If one accepts this process, then the possibility of approaching the Absolute Truth exists. . . . the process of knowledge terminates in unalloyed devotional service to the Lord. So if one does not approach, or is not able to approach, the transcendental service of the Lord, then the other nineteen items are of no particular value.

. . . As for actual advancement in spritual science, one should have a test to see how far he is progressing. He can judge by these items.

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Bg 16.1-3 -- The Supreme Personality of Godhead said:

Fearlessness;

purification of one’s existence;

cultivation of spiritual knowledge;

charity;

self-control;

performance of sacrifice;

study of the Vedas; austerity;

simplicity;

nonviolence;

truthfulness;

freedom from anger;

renunciation;

tranquillity;

aversion to faultfinding;

compassion for all living entities;

freedom from covetousness;

gentleness; modesty;

steady determination;

vigor;

forgiveness;

fortitude;

cleanliness; and

freedom from envy and from the passion for honor—

these transcendental qualities, O son of Bharata,

belong to godly men endowed with divine nature.

[Bishadi 0]

 

From the Sri Vedanta Deshika (1268-1387) Sishyakrityadhikara section of the Srimad Rahasyatrayasara:

 

Six Essential Qualifications for a Good Disciple

 

1. The disciple should have the highest devotion for his preceptor.

 

2. The wise disciple spreads the good name and fame of his preceptor to others.

 

3. The good disciple takes care of the guru’s property and his posessions.

 

4. The good disciple protects his guru’s teachings with a view to transferring them to a worthy disciple of his own.

 

5. The good disciple is always grateful to his guru.

 

6. The good disciple leads a pure life untainted by wrong habits and practises. Indeed, he should have the eight virtues of the soul spoken

of by the sage Gautama:

 

Compassion, Patience, Contentment, Purity, Earnest Endeavour, Noble Thoughts, Absence of Greed, Absence of Envy.

 

Perhaps (an opinion) to use the term 'integrity' or the pure 'intent' to 'do good' may be the single best 'identity'

 

Meaning; if good has all them vast opinions, then 'good' can be what is defined where as if a person is only of choice, then what that 'choice' is and how it is derived may be the purest form of identifying disciple.

 

perhaps: "The integrity of choice."

 

Will this disciple; choose correctly?

 

what this enables is honesty of knowledge to exceed obligation to opinions, beliefs or 'guru'.....

 

seems Godhead in itself

[AncientMariner 0]

Personally I like the discipleship of Jada Bharata. His father tried to teach him to become a perfect brahmana but he behaved to his father and the public like a foolish, retarded, deaf and dumb idiot so that his father and the public would leave him alone and he had more time to think about Krishna.