Svarga, Martya and Pātāla

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Svarga, Martya and Pātāla- three planetary systems.

Is Earth one of these?

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Svarga, Martya and Pātāla- three planetary systems.

Is Earth one of these?

Martya-loka means this Earth. Could be you mean to say if the Earth can be populated by people of such kind that it can be considered a lower planet?

 

"Kṣīṇe puṇye punaḥ martya-lokaṁ viśanti: “When your pious balance is finished, then you are again fallen in this earth.” Kṣīṇe puṇye punaḥ martya- lokaṁ viśanti. Martya-lokam means, this martya-lokam, this earth. Now, even when he comes back here, He says, Lord Kṛṣṇa says, that “He gets his birth…” Śucīnāṁ śrīmatāṁ gehe yoga-bhraṣṭo ’bhijāyate. He takes his birth in a family, two kinds of families. One family, śrīmatām. Śrīmatām means very rich family, very rich family."

 

Bhagavad-gītā 6.40-44

by His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda

New York, September 18, 1966

http://causelessmercy.com/t/t/660918BG.NY.htm

 

 

"In this way there are seven planetary spheres. Similarly, down also: Tala, Atala, Vitala, Talātala, Rasātala, Pātāla. They are also named, down, down, down, down. The lowest down planetary system is called Pātāla.So here Nārada Muni says that “Try to achieve that thing which is not gained even if you go to the highest planetary system or if you go to the lowest planetary system. Or if you remain in this planetary system, middle.” That means, going up means to be situated in the modes of goodness. Ūrdhvaṁ gacchanti sattva-sthāḥ. Sattva-sthā, “those who are situated in the mode of goodness, they can be elevated to the higher planetary system.” Madhye tiṣṭhanti rājasāḥ: “And those who are in the modes of passion, they remain within this world.” And adho gacchanti… Jaghanya-guṇa-vṛtti-sthāḥ. “Those whose habits are very abominable…” Jaghanya. Jaghanya means very abominable, hateful. “One who is addicted to such hateful habits…” Jaghanya-guṇa-vṛtti, adho gacchanti. Adho gacchanti means either they go down planetary system or down living conditions just like animals. Just like animals. They are jaghanya-guṇa-vṛtti-sthāḥ. They can lie down anywhere. They can eat anything. They have no sense that “This is not good. I am doing this.” They have no sense. Just like tree. We go sometimes in the jungle. A tree is standing for several thousands of years, but it has no sense, “Oh, I am standing like this, alone?” These are the births of jaghanya-guṇa-vṛtti-sthā adho gacchanti.

If our character and behavior is very low and abominable, then we are awaiting such condition of life. But here Nārada Muni says that there is another thing which is neither achieved either in the higher planetary system or lower planetary system. That means pāpa- puṇya. You go to the higher planetary system by pious activities, and you go to the lower, I mean to say, less than human life or lower planetary system, by papa, or sinful activities. But Kṛṣṇa says that “Don’t be attracted by pious activities; neither go down to abominable condition of life. Simply capture Me.” Mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja. That is the whole instruction of Bhagavad-gītā. He has also explained,

ābrahma-bhuvanāl lokāḥ punar āvartino ’rjuna mām upetya tu kaunteya punar janma na vidyate [Bg. 8.16]

“My dear Arjuna, even if you go up to the Brahmaloka, with so much long duration of life…” Kṛṣṇa does not speak that “You go down.” Of course, that is for the third-class, lowest class of men. That is another thing. But even if you first-class man and by your pious activities you go up to the Brahmaloka, so punar āvartinaḥ, you have to again fall down. Mām upetya kaunteya: “But if you come to Me, then there is no such fear that you’ll fall down.” Mām upetya kaunteya punar janma na vidyate. “Then you haven’t got to come here and again take birth.”

 

 

 

Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 1.5.17-18

by His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda

New Vrindaban, June 21, 1969

http://causelessmercy.com/t/t/690621SB.NV.htm

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Svarga, Martya and Pātāla- three planetary systems.

Is Earth one of these?

 

Martya loka = earth - world of death

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Look at this picture:

ttp://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap050102.html

 

Explanation: Welcome to Planet Earth, the third planet from a star named the Sun. The Earth is shaped like a sphere and composed mostly of rock. Over 70 percent of the Earth's surface is water. The planet has a relatively thin atmosphere composed mostly of nitrogen and oxygen. Earth has a single large Moon that is about 1/4 of its diameter and, from the planet's surface, is seen to have almost exactly the same angular size as the Sun. With its abundance of liquid water, Earth supports a large variety of life forms, including potentially intelligent species such as dolphins and humans. Please enjoy your stay on Planet Earth.

 

By Martya-loka you mean what is in the picture (planet Earth)?

[suchandra 1]

 

Look at this picture:

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap050102.html

 

Explanation: Welcome to Planet Earth, the third planet from a star named the Sun. The Earth is shaped like a sphere and composed mostly of rock. Over 70 percent of the Earth's surface is water. The planet has a relatively thin atmosphere composed mostly of nitrogen and oxygen. Earth has a single large Moon that is about 1/4 of its diameter and, from the planet's surface, is seen to have almost exactly the same angular size as the Sun. With its abundance of liquid water, Earth supports a large variety of life forms, including potentially intelligent species such as dolphins and humans. Please enjoy your stay on Planet Earth.

 

By Martya-loka you mean what is in the picture (planet Earth)?

Could be that martya-loka refers to a category and not specifically to just our Earth. Since everything is big in God's creation there're surely billions of earthly planets like ours.

 

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Yes, there are billions of universes that all have their own earth planet.

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Sun, Mercury, Venus, Earth, Moon, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto...

 

Are this celestial objects all in the same category?