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gHari Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Srimad-Bhagavatam 9.9.49: <center> yat tad brahma paraM sUkSmam azUnyaM zUnya-kalpitam bhagavAn vAsudeveti yaM gRNanti hi sAtvatAH </center> yat--that which; tat--such; brahma param--Parabrahman , the Supreme Personality of Godhead, KRSNa; sUkSmam--spiritual, beyond all material conceptions; azUnyam--not impersonal or void; zUnya-kalpitam--imagined to be void by less intelligent men; bhagavAn--the Supreme Personality of Godhead; vAsudeva--KRSNa; iti--thus; yam--whom; gRNanti--sing about; hi--indeed; sAtvatAH--pure devotees. The Supreme Personality of Godhead, VAsudeva, KRSNa, is extremely difficult to understand for unintelligent men who accept Him as impersonal or void, which He is not. The Lord is therefore understood and sung about by pure devotees. PURPORT As stated in SrImad-BhAgavatam (1.2.11): <center> vadanti tat tattva-vidas tattvaM yaj jJAnam advayam brahmeti paramAtmeti bhagavAn iti zabdyate </center> The Absolute Truth is realized in three phases--as Brahman, ParamAtmA and BhagavAn. BhagavAn is the origin of everything. Brahman is a partial representation of BhagavAn, and VAsudeva, the Supersoul living everywhere and in everyone's heart, is also an advanced realization of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. But when one comes to understand the Supreme Personality of Godhead (vAsudevaH sarvam iti), when one realizes that VAsudeva is both ParamAtmA and the impersonal Brahman, he is then in perfect knowledge. KRSNa is therefore described by Arjuna as paraM brahma paraM dhAma pavitraM paramaM bhavAn [ Bg. 10.12 ]. The words paraM brahma refer to the shelter of the impersonal Brahman and also of the all-pervading Supersoul. When KRSNa says tyaktvA dehaM punar janma naiti mAm eti [ Bg. 4.9 ], this means that the perfect devotee, after perfect realization, returns home, back to Godhead. MahArAja KhaTvAGga accepted the shelter of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and because of his full surrender he achieved perfection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gHari Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 As an aside, when we speak of correcting books, we see not only "samam iti" in the last quote (which I fixed) but again in SB 7.13.42, SB 7.10.70, and in SB 8.3.12 we see it both as sarvam and as samam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gHari Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 http://vedabase.net/p/param http://vedabase.net/p/para Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 What is the difference? The difference - none of these quotes can explain either of the two!!! You will know only if you reach. Rest is speculation or a try at it at the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 [vedabase.net/p/param"]vedabase.net/p/param vedabase.net/p/para These are definitions from Veda base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gHari Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 The Bhagavatam is speculation? That is an unfortunate obstacle. What is the difference between the sun and sunlight? It is like that. And "if you reach" you will know why Sri Caitanya quotes the Hari-bhakti-sudhodaya (14.36): http://vedabase.net/cc/adi/7/98/en Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 The Bhagavatam is speculation? That is an unfortunate obstacle. What is the difference between the sun and sunlight? It is like that. And "if you reach" you will know why Sri Caitanya quotes the Hari-bhakti-sudhodaya (14.36): vedabase.net/cc/adi/ Bhagwatam is not speculation. But it is just a medium to reach after all. Nothing else. Yes "if" you do reach. Vedabase.. just a place for copying pasting more quotes. But good if it helps in reaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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