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Om Sri Matre Namaha

 

My Dear Loving Ones,

 

Thanks for all the suggestions and guidances you gave me... Ya they

indeed have help me a lot in taking the proper steps ahead though im

still in confusion about some I've read... The best thing to do is

that I will listen to the inner voice what I must do because it is

said that God 'Devi' speaks through us :)

 

It is true that I was a devotee of Satya Sai Baba and at that time

he was my Guru and God and Father, but after some deceptions

received and i realise things, I left..

 

Anyway, whether i find a Guru or not, one thing is sure is that Im

holding my Maa anchal and whether I'm wrong or not in my puja, My

Devi Maa, will hold my hands to lead me - afterall she is Mother and

she knows well what is best for her little son...

 

Love

Parishant

 

 

 

 

>

> Jai Shri Mataji!

> Dear Prishant, It is wonderful to see your love of the

Mother .,and also for you search for a true Guru to teach you and

initiate you into Her Most Sacred and Powerful Worship. Still, a

true Maha Guru is not limited by space. It is of no importance that

there is no guru ion Mauritius.Have you searched and found that

there is absolutely no true spiritual Master available??

> Regards,

> Dionisis

> P.S.I have already given you a hint in this email about a Great

Guru Who is available to you!Please,note, that I am referring to an

Incarnated Master....

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Due respect should be given to mantras and stotras, regardless of intention. Saying such statements will only encourage people who inherently should not engage in such practices to proceed to incurring damage. These are mediums by which an individual establishes a link with Shakti, call her Devi or Maa or whatever but these titles are secondary to her original nature as Shakti.

 

All Scripture stress on the need for Guru, just because you can buy a book that as a list of stotras does not essentially make you eligable for reciting or practicing them. At best you will get nothing out of it, but in many instances people become negatively affected by unregulated mantra sadhana.

 

Bhakti is a different yoga to Mantra yoga. Be sure not to confuse the two. They have different rules, understandings and protocol.

 

 

joannapollner <joannapollner >

 

Wednesday, 13 December, 2006 1:42:19 AM

Re: Mantras

 

As with all mantras , stotras ect.... if the intention is pure , from heart I believe there should be no harm ( however there are certain aspects which under the guidance of Guru bring much more success on once spiritual path )

 

joanna

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Parishant,

 

If your desire to chant the LSN is for spiritual reasons and to praise Her, there are no boundaries. Just chant Her names as best and as much as you are able. She knows your Heart.

 

Those statments regarding being cursed if you chant without a Guru's blessing and initiation were meant for people who wanted to chant it for "selfish" material gain. Same goes with the Chandi Path. Mother gives all things to Her children.

 

Of course a true Guru's Blessings are always desireable with anything. My Amma, Mata Amritanandamayi, comes to Mauritius each year and has an ashram there. Here are the contact details:

 

Mata Amritanandamayi Center

St. Jean Rd.,

Quatre Bornes

Mauritius

Tel: +230.4662718, +230.4641863

Fax: +230.454 5031

Email: ammaur (AT) intnet (DOT) mu

 

So just keep chanting Her names and stotrams praising Her as much as you can. She will provide everything else you might require or need, so don't worry. If you need specific initiations down the road, they will simply happen.

 

Jai Maa!

 

Surya

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Dear Parishant,

Do yourself a favour. Chant the 108 names of Lord

Krishna and he will show you the right path for your

present state of conciousness.

Dont think that everything is permissable in the hindu

religion. There are conditions for everything. One

cant go by leaps and bounds but one step at a time.

Remember that LSN has to be chanted first and then

Lord Shiva.

Since I know the method I have revealed it to you. I

seek the welfare of your soul.

May Lord Krishna guide you.

Bharadwaj

--- Parishant <paribus81 > wrote:

 

> Om Sri Matre Namaha

>

> My Dear Loving Ones,

>

> Thanks for all the suggestions and guidances you

> gave me... Ya they

> indeed have help me a lot in taking the proper steps

> ahead though im

> still in confusion about some I've read... The best

> thing to do is

> that I will listen to the inner voice what I must do

> because it is

> said that God 'Devi' speaks through us :)

>

> It is true that I was a devotee of Satya Sai Baba

> and at that time

> he was my Guru and God and Father, but after some

> deceptions

> received and i realise things, I left..

>

> Anyway, whether i find a Guru or not, one thing is

> sure is that Im

> holding my Maa anchal and whether I'm wrong or not

> in my puja, My

> Devi Maa, will hold my hands to lead me - afterall

> she is Mother and

> she knows well what is best for her little son...

>

> Love

> Parishant

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Jai Shri Mataji!

> > Dear Prishant, It is wonderful to see your love of

> the

> Mother .,and also for you search for a true Guru to

> teach you and

> initiate you into Her Most Sacred and Powerful

> Worship. Still, a

> true Maha Guru is not limited by space. It is of no

> importance that

> there is no guru ion Mauritius.Have you searched

> and found that

> there is absolutely no true spiritual Master

> available??

> > Regards,

> > Dionisis

> > P.S.I have already given you a hint in this email

> about a Great

> Guru Who is available to you!Please,note, that I am

> referring to an

> Incarnated Master....

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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JAI MAA,

 

If your desire is so strong that SRI MAA herself be your guru then SHE

herself will appear in front of you and guide you. She will take a human

form and be with you all the time. She will throw many things your way to

test you but the one who studies can sit for the exams and pass or fail.

 

SRI MAA ( a mother) will never give a child a knife unless the knife is

necessary for the child. If every fiber , every cell in you is dedicated to

HER, every memo you write, every word you utter, every mantra you recite,

every morsel you cook is for HER then there is no difference whether you are

in the house or in the forrest. The vibrations may be different but

eventually you become videha.

 

You may come across a guru who is not SAT CHID ANAND himself but eventually

you will have a guru who is poorna himself, poornah midam becuase you asked

SRI MAA.

 

 

Gururbrahmaa gururvishnuh gururdevo Maheswarah |

Guruh-saakshaat parabrahma tasmai shrigurave namah ||

 

Om,

 

Rajyalaxmi

 

 

 

 

"Parishant" <paribus81 >

 

 

Re: Mantras

Wed, 13 Dec 2006 06:22:15 -0000

 

Om Sri Matre Namaha

 

My Dear Loving Ones,

 

Thanks for all the suggestions and guidances you gave me... Ya they

indeed have help me a lot in taking the proper steps ahead though im

still in confusion about some I've read... The best thing to do is

that I will listen to the inner voice what I must do because it is

said that God 'Devi' speaks through us :)

 

It is true that I was a devotee of Satya Sai Baba and at that time

he was my Guru and God and Father, but after some deceptions

received and i realise things, I left..

 

Anyway, whether i find a Guru or not, one thing is sure is that Im

holding my Maa anchal and whether I'm wrong or not in my puja, My

Devi Maa, will hold my hands to lead me - afterall she is Mother and

she knows well what is best for her little son...

 

Love

Parishant

 

 

 

 

>

> Jai Shri Mataji!

> Dear Prishant, It is wonderful to see your love of the

Mother .,and also for you search for a true Guru to teach you and

initiate you into Her Most Sacred and Powerful Worship. Still, a

true Maha Guru is not limited by space. It is of no importance that

there is no guru ion Mauritius.Have you searched and found that

there is absolutely no true spiritual Master available??

> Regards,

> Dionisis

> P.S.I have already given you a hint in this email about a Great

Guru Who is available to you!Please,note, that I am referring to an

Incarnated Master....

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Well said, Kartik! You have made a clear distinction

between mantra yoga and bhakti yoga. Someone has said

in one of the posts here that mantras and stotras ...

if intention is pure etc.

 

What we need to understand, whether or not it is to

our liking, mantras are a different class from

stotras.

 

About Guru, 'Samitpaanih Vidwaansam brhmanishtham

praapya varaan nibodhata'.

 

Yaavat mayoktam alam iti manyaami. Naastyatra sandehah

kaschidapi. Kintu aadyandina aadhunika reetyaam

lokaah, mantravishaye paamaraah santah api, anyathaa

saamaajika paaschaatya vidyaanipunaah, swayameva

sarvamantra-adhikaarinah aatmaanam manyamaanaah,

sarvatra vartante, vardhante cha. Teshaam saamye

mantraadikaaryopari vaada-prativaadou aakshepaneeyou

anarthakau cha bhavatah.

 

JR

--- kartik gaurav <omkaaraya .au> wrote:

 

> Due respect should be given to mantras and stotras,

> regardless of intention. Saying such statements will

> only encourage people who inherently should not

> engage in such practices to proceed to incurring

> damage. These are mediums by which an individual

> establishes a link with Shakti, call her Devi or Maa

> or whatever but these titles are secondary to her

> original nature as Shakti.

>

> All Scripture stress on the need for Guru, just

> because you can buy a book that as a list of stotras

> does not essentially make you eligable for reciting

> or practicing them. At best you will get nothing out

> of it, but in many instances people become

> negatively affected by unregulated mantra sadhana.

>

> Bhakti is a different yoga to Mantra yoga. Be sure

> not to confuse the two. They have different rules,

> understandings and protocol.

>

>

> joannapollner <joannapollner >

>

> Wednesday, 13 December, 2006 1:42:19 AM

> Re: Mantras

>

> As with all mantras , stotras ect.... if the

> intention is pure , from heart I believe there

> should be no harm ( however there are certain

> aspects which under the guidance of Guru bring much

> more success on once spiritual path )

>

> joanna

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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, Michael Parker

<busybeeonline wrote:

>

> Dear Parishant,

> I'm Brahma Rishi Bharadwaj a Vaishnavite who was

> initiated into the shakti path in Avantica 12 thousand

> years back and have performed many miracles through

> the grace of Mother Lalitha and am still doing the

> same.

 

 

As I was reading this particular message suddenly this story come to

mind, told to me by a friend. I just have to share it with all.

 

One day his guru and him went to a temple. A trance session was

going on, over the other side of the temple. A lot of people waiting

in line to see. His guru was doing his private pooja when one of the

temple people invited him meet this so called "priest" who was into

trance. This "priest" claim to be Lord Shiva. Initially the guru

refuses but his sishya pleaded him and so he did. He sat before

this "priest" and wrote something on a piece of paper, and showed it

to the "priest". He asked : can you explain to me what this verse

means. The "priest" look at the paper and said "No I do not know

what it means". The Guru remarked : how can that be. You are the one

who gave this at Mount Kailasa, and its being revealed in the Siva

Sutra. The "priest" immediately send everybody out and said "I would

like to have a private moment with my son". As soon as the room was

cleared, the "priest" pleaded with the Guru, and admit "I am not

Lord Shiva. I am only an ordinary spirit residing at that corner.

Please do not expose my secret!"

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Gr8 Nora, Gr8!! Hoh..Hoh..Hoh..

 

In fact we all are avyakta-parabrhma, then became

vyakta-parabrhma (Maayaa-aacchaadita), prakaasha and

vimarshaa and in my case, I got into

vasishtha-indrapramada-bharadvasu-upamanyu maharshi

lineage entrusted with the safe keeping of Taittareeya

Shaakhaa of Krishna Yajur Veda and now become

Rahdakrishnan. Hoh..Hoh..Hoh..Gr8

 

JR

--- NMadasamy <nmadasamy (AT) nmadasamy (DOT) com> wrote:

 

> , Michael

> Parker

> <busybeeonline wrote:

> >

> > Dear Parishant,

> > I'm Brahma Rishi Bharadwaj a Vaishnavite who was

> > initiated into the shakti path in Avantica 12

> thousand

> > years back and have performed many miracles

> through

> > the grace of Mother Lalitha and am still doing the

> > same.

>

>

> As I was reading this particular message suddenly

> this story come to

> mind, told to me by a friend. I just have to share

> it with all.

>

> One day his guru and him went to a temple. A trance

> session was

> going on, over the other side of the temple. A lot

> of people waiting

> in line to see. His guru was doing his private pooja

> when one of the

> temple people invited him meet this so called

> "priest" who was into

> trance. This "priest" claim to be Lord Shiva.

> Initially the guru

> refuses but his sishya pleaded him and so he did. He

> sat before

> this "priest" and wrote something on a piece of

> paper, and showed it

> to the "priest". He asked : can you explain to me

> what this verse

> means. The "priest" look at the paper and said "No I

> do not know

> what it means". The Guru remarked : how can that be.

> You are the one

> who gave this at Mount Kailasa, and its being

> revealed in the Siva

> Sutra. The "priest" immediately send everybody out

> and said "I would

> like to have a private moment with my son". As soon

> as the room was

> cleared, the "priest" pleaded with the Guru, and

> admit "I am not

> Lord Shiva. I am only an ordinary spirit residing at

> that corner.

> Please do not expose my secret!"

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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>Of course a true Guru's Blessings are always desireable with

>anything. My Amma, Mata Amritanandamayi, comes to Mauritius each

>year and has an ashram there.

 

And she will initiate you with a mantra, as she has for so many.

 

As for respect for mantra, to say that it is legitimate to chant Sri

Lalitaa Sahasranaama without initiation into another mantra is not

equivalent to saying that there is no value in that mantra, or that

the transmission of such a mantra by a satguru does not invest it

with illuminative and transformative power. But that last statement

does not negate the existence of such power within the Lalita stotras

themselves, as countless realized sages have affirmed, including the

ones named on this list.

 

Jai Maa

 

Max

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if one were to insist that the phala stuthi in lalitha sahasranama is of no consequence IN CHANTING THE SAME, then there is no place for any argument. God help everyone.

Regards,

S.SHANGARANARAYANAN

 

 

 

 

 

Max Dashu <maxdashu (AT) lmi (DOT) net>

 

Thursday, December 14, 2006 4:35:15 AM

Re: Mantras

 

>Of course a true Guru's Blessings are always desireable with

>anything. My Amma, Mata Amritanandamayi, comes to Mauritius each

>year and has an ashram there.

 

And she will initiate you with a mantra, as she has for so many.

 

As for respect for mantra, to say that it is legitimate to chant Sri

Lalitaa Sahasranaama without initiation into another mantra is not

equivalent to saying that there is no value in that mantra, or that

the transmission of such a mantra by a satguru does not invest it

with illuminative and transformative power. But that last statement

does not negate the existence of such power within the Lalita stotras

themselves, as countless realized sages have affirmed, including the

ones named on this list.

 

Jai Maa

 

Max

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, sangar narayanan

<mackro1932 wrote: God help everyone.

> Regards,

> S.SHANGARANARAYANAN

>

>

 

 

Indeed you are right. DEVI have been helping everyone! Are you

doubting it?

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Dear Nora,

 

Namaskar. I agree with you that DEVI have been helping everyone at right time. Absolutely I have no doubts on this subject. It is the people who are out of Shakti path could not understand real nature and kindness of DEVI and often keep generating doubts in their minds.

 

Unlike many other holy saints who lived on earth sometime back but not present in 2006, DEVI existence is reality and sbe is always present around us and reveals herself at right time and guide her devotees in success path.

 

Best Regards

 

Upendra V

 

 

NMadasamy <nmadasamy (AT) nmadasamy (DOT) com>

 

Thursday, 14 December, 2006 6:53:40 AM

Re: Mantras

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, sangar narayanan

 

<mackro1932@ ...> wrote: God help everyone.

 

> Regards,

 

> S.SHANGARANARAYANAN

 

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Indeed you are right. DEVI have been helping everyone! Are you

 

doubting it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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JaI ShrI MatrE

 

Dear Surya

 

Ya next time when Amma visits Mauritius i will go and meet her in

the Ashram and by the way its in my Town, so i will try to meet her.

 

 

Ya, i would like to thank ALL those who are helping me a lot here..

Indeed I've learnt a lot from all of you though i can see that there

is quite conflicts about some of the statements posted by some of

you..

 

But i do think that Devi will not be angry if ever I did a mantra or

LSN if ever it was prohibited!! But i believe as a Mother she will

tell me that this is not good and to give me something else..

 

All our future is in her Hands, so whatever is being happening with

us or that discussion may be also her will :>

 

Love

Parishant

 

 

 

 

 

> Dear Parishant,

>

> If your desire to chant the LSN is for spiritual reasons and to

praise Her, there are no boundaries. Just chant Her names as best

and as much as you are able. She knows your Heart.

>

> Those statments regarding being cursed if you chant without a

Guru's blessing and initiation were meant for people who wanted to

chant it for "selfish" material gain. Same goes with the Chandi

Path. Mother gives all things to Her children.

>

> Of course a true Guru's Blessings are always desireable with

anything. My Amma, Mata Amritanandamayi, comes to Mauritius each

year and has an ashram there. Here are the contact details:

>

> Mata Amritanandamayi Center

> St. Jean Rd.,

> Quatre Bornes

> Mauritius

> Tel: +230.4662718, +230.4641863

> Fax: +230.454 5031

> Email: ammaur

>

> So just keep chanting Her names and stotrams praising Her as much

as you can. She will provide everything else you might require or

need, so don't worry. If you need specific initiations down the

road, they will simply happen.

>

> Jai Maa!

>

> Surya

>

>

>

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Regarding Manthras there are two kinds. One type of manthras are to be initiated by GURU ONLY. In this type manthras which are abstract and do not reveal the meaning on reading . Meaning of these mathras are hidden and they can not be understood by us without Guru and proper upasana. Some other type of manthras are nama manthrs. These are availabe to oevery body. By reading Lalitha Sahaasrnama orVishnu Sahasranama you will get experiend the effect of hidden monthas in these namas. For yjese type of monthras youn devotion and bhakthi is important than a GURU. By Chanting these Namas of God or Goddess, one dsy surely A SPIRITUAL GURU will come to us and get ourselves initiated by him or otherwise the Deveatha or Devathai whose namas are recited by us everyday will herself come give her blessing and do upadesa, THAT IS THE GRACE OF GOD/GODDESS,

GOPALASWAMY.

 

sangar narayanan <mackro1932 > wrote:

Only a guru who has reached "that" state can alone impart and deliver the divine energy to the disciple. No doubt Srividhya is an open text but that does not mean everyone gets 'that" from the competent guru.

S.SHANGARANARAYANAN

 

 

Janardana Dasa <lightdweller >

 

Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:20:31 PM

Re: Re: Mantras

 

As Sri Karunamayi has said, it is the "tradition minded people" who keep putting forth all of these barriers about some of these various Sri Vidya practices in question. Quote: "Sri Vidya is an open highway for all".

 

JANARDANA DASA

 

joannapollner <joannapollner@ > wrote:

, "NMadasamy" <nmadasamy@. ..> wrote:

>

> , sangar narayanan

> <mackro1932@ > wrote: When people believe and do lalitha

> sahasranama, it is unfortunate they do not believe the phala stuthi,

> which clearly says that those chanting lalitha sahasranama without

> panchadasi mantra upadesa are cursed by the gupta yoginis. Why not

> follow the dictum properly instead of violating the rules laid down,

> if there is belief.

>

>

>

>If that where true , I doubt Ammachi and Sri Karunamayi would make the stotra so available

to the public to learn ,

joanna

 

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