doubt rgding pithru karyams

December 3, 2006

Members of divya desam,I've a doubt rgding pithru karyams.If a person has only daughters and does not have any son's who can perform pithru karyam's after that person's death.I think only people of the same gothram can perform.what can a person without a son do?.can they adopt somebody r is it possible that during their lifetime they can do something (say some pariharam r remedy)for their own so that nobody has to perform their pithru karyams after their death.is there anyway a daughter can perform pithru karyams for their deceased parents who do not have a son.

I also read in some spiritual texts that person without a son cannot reach Swargam.Is it true.If anybody can give me detailed answer rgding this i would be thankful to them.Rgds,revathi.

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December 4, 2006

This is addressed in Bhagavadgita.

Arjuna prematurely concluded that the manes fall because wholesale war

leads to chaos

and none may be able to perform the rites for the departed ancestors.

The Lord said that Arjuna's worries were baseless, because his basis

was wrong

(ga-tA-sU-na-ga-tA-sUm-shcha

nA-nu-sho-cha-nti pa-NDi-tAh).

(pitREn yA-nti pitR vra-tAh

yA-nti ma-dyAgi-no-pi mAm)

So from the point of view of eternal truth, the post death rites are

not only unnecessary but also

undermine the Lord's promise. It is a shame that we have reduced the

essentials of our religion to

shraddham and tarpNams. Not that doing them is wrong or bad- but

unnecessary.

We are also guilty of feeling guilty of not doing them properly.

My revered father, full of knowledge, was always concerned whether his

sons

perform such rites. This is the primary question h eused to ask

astrologer after

showing our horoscopes. This is how much our psyche is preoccupied with

the rites. On the other hand My mother made us promise that we will not

do any such rites for her- she was full of wisdom.

My suggestion is don't bother- just remember them extra special on

those days.

If you have a video or other memoirs of them gathering dust somewhere,

dust it and hold it close to your heart and put it back or may be watch

it

with family members. Share some experiences of yours with them to

otehrs, especially your children.

I am sharing this information for you to decide between which one

(knowledge or wisdom) to choose!

dAsan

K.S. tAtAchAr

revathyi

Sun, 3 Dec 2006 10:58 AM

doubt rgding pithru karyams

Members of divya desam,I've a doubt rgding pithru karyams.If a

person has only daughters and does not have any son's whoÂ can perform

pithru karyam's after that person's death.I think only people of the

same gothram can perform.what can a person without a son do?.can they

adopt somebody r is it possible that during their lifetime they can do

something (say some pariharam r remedy)for their own so that nobody has

to perform their pithru karyams after their death.is there anyway a

daughter can perform pithru karyams for their deceasedÂ parents who do

not have a son.

I also read in some spiritual texts that person without a son cannot

reach Swargam.Is it true.If anybody can give me detailed answer rgding

this i would be thankful to them.Rgds,revathi.

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December 4, 2006

My Father-in-law expired on Ekadasi day in Masi month without a son but with two daughters .

We call a swamiji from a Hindu temple and my ofice as a dutiful daughter,offers, raw rice, Moog Dal(paasi paruppu, green plantains(raw)- vazhaikka, Jagger, french beans-avarakkai and a dakshana of R. 251 on the thithi day. On that day, we elders fast in the evening. The morning lunch is simple on a typical shrardam style.

I feel there is nothing wrong, if one believes in his/her conscience. As long as the daughters personally feel "not guily" of their action, there should not be any reason why the daughters could not call a brahman and offer. They do not peform any agni santhanam, conduct religious rites etc. They are doing it for their own father and now legally, when the daughters have an equal right on the share of ancestral property. why cannot they remember their loving father in a befitting/ deserving manner.

Ego has no place in such religious rites.

This is what we had followed, following and will follow to our end.

This is our own personal opinion which we are following since 1968.

Chandra AND srinivAsan

revathi sampath <revathyi > wrote:

Members of divya desam,I've a doubt rgding pithru karyams.If a person has only daughters and does not have any son's who can perform pithru karyam's after that person's death.I think only people of the same gothram can perform.what can a person without a son do?.can they adopt somebody r is it possible that during their lifetime they can do something (say some pariharam r remedy)for their own so that nobody has to perform their pithru karyams after their death.is there anyway a daughter can perform pithru karyams for their deceased parents who do not have a son.

I also read in some spiritual texts that person without a son cannot reach Swargam.Is it true.If anybody can give me detailed answer rgding this i would be thankful to them.Rgds,revathi.

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December 4, 2006

>>I also read in some spiritual texts that person without a son cannot reach Swargam.Is it true.If anybody can give me detailed answer rgding this i would be thankful to them.Rgds,revathi.<<

First of all, swarga and mokasha are not one and the same.

Swarga is transient residence in Indra lokam, whereas moksha is permanent

residence abiding with the supreme.

How long one stays in Swarga is dependent on the accumulated puNyam in earthly life.

Once that is used up (like retirement nest egg) they return to earth.

As the Bhagavadgita says: kSHeeNe puNya martya lokam vishanti.

Same is also true for Narakam.

Obviously, there is no need for a son for either swargam or Narakam.

Need of a son for moksham is a widely popular prejudice (ignorance), not substantiated

by Bhagavadgita. Charama shlokam that guarantees moksham does not come with such

mundane requirements.

It is time we cleansed our system of accumulated kalmashams (impurities) even if they are

in Sanskrit language and even if they are presented with atmost sincierity by our elders and

religious heads! Let us take shelter in Bhagavadgeeta.

At least for His sake let us not make a mockery of our religion with these invalid, worthless,

and senseless mental blockades!

dAsan

K.S. tAtAchAr

revathyi

Sun, 3 Dec 2006 10:58 AM

doubt rgding pithru karyams

Members of divya desam,I've a doubt rgding pithru karyams.If a person has only daughters and does not have any son's who can perform pithru karyam's after that person's death.I think only people of the same gothram can perform.what can a person without a son do?.can they adopt somebody r is it possible that during their lifetime they can do something (say some pariharam r remedy)for their own so that nobody has to perform their pithru karyams after their death.is there anyway a daughter can perform pithru karyams for their deceased parents who do not have a son.

I also read in some spiritual texts that person without a son cannot reach Swargam.Is it true.If anybody can give me detailed answer rgding this i would be thankful to them.Rgds,revathi.

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December 5, 2006

>> The morning lunch is simple on a typical shrardam style.<<

Typical shraddham lunch is supposed to be most sumtuous and not simple.

dAsan

K.S. tAtAchAr

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Mon, 4 Dec 2006 4:20 AM

Re: doubt rgding pithru karyams

My Father-in-law expired on Ekadasi day in Masi month without a son

but with two daughters .

Â

We call a swamijiÂ from a Hindu temple andÂ my ofice as a dutiful

daughter,offers, raw rice, Moog Dal(paasiÂ paruppu, green

plantains(raw)- vazhaikka, Jagger, french beans-avarakkai and a

dakshana of R. 251Â on the thithi day. On that day, weÂ elders fast in

the evening.Â The morning lunch is simpleÂ on a typical shrardam style.

Â

I feel there is nothing wrong, if one believes in his/her conscience.Â

As long asÂ the daughtersÂ personally feel "not guily" ofÂ their action,

there should not be anyÂ reason why the daughters could not call a

brahman and offer.Â They do not peform any agni santhanam, conduct

religious rites etc.Â They are doing it for their own father and now

legally, when the daughters have an equal right on the share of

ancestral property. why cannot they remember their loving father in a

befitting/ deservingÂ manner.

Ego has no place in such religious rites.

Â

This is what we had followed,Â following and will follow to our end.Â

Â

This is our own personal opinion which we are following since 1968.Â Â