smouldering_cigarette -intrusion 21/11 p3

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Dear Ashutosh,

 

Good to see the broad agreement in what I have said the only error that is glaring is the word competition as it was in an abrupt context, unfinished in cases wherever I had a chace to say te same be it in mail or chats I have added with diminishing senior members and members as such only.

 

pl see like in other posts so far the ones not here have only added to few members reading and is leaving just 3-4 readig members without much to compete in terms of prespective not prowesss sure this group with an active membership of around 150 members can't make anyone big or small.

 

I found sri vattam krishnans style of seeing a chart by prasna and then the chart style as the best method as he did it consistantly.

 

and in VA too I have said here and there I am too hesitant member there as I dont have a rich background in shastras as most members rthere are and limit myself to a few chart reads, sure the cases have ben more INTERACTIVE and I know there I am too small with many stalwarts there.

 

astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr> wrote: Dear Prashant,

 

These are the ups and downs of being an astrologer. I have been experiencing it since long, because I am known only as an astrologer to the world, having no other occupation or profession.

 

Everyone has his ways of analysing charts and methods of confirming whether chart is correct or not. Intuition, experience, extra informations, pictures, palm scans, all are different means used to come to a proper and justified conclusion.

 

The people approaching an astrologer ma be worried, scared, insecure, or simple looking for fun time. The astrologer has to clearly demarcate his conditions. Nothing wrong with that.

 

No astrologer is superior to another. There is no competition here or anywhere. All are doing their bit as much as they can do safely without compromising with own hard-earned knowledge.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Ashutosh

 

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Prashant Kumar G B

Tuesday, 21 November, 2006 16:54

Re: smouldering_cigarette -intrusion 21/11

 

Dear Ashutosh,

 

this post was anyway about me and my experience abt this women- smouldering_cigarette

 

I NONE OF MY feedback posts I have ever said it is my prowess or greatness

on the contrary have said it s the greatness of the subject and its masters who have show us the way to do what little we can do.

 

and I have sent quite a few mails in the groups asking for info, dates, events /pics. ESP when it comes to breaking of a marriage, this is a huge moral responsibility to predict without verifying a few parameters.

 

I will never decide someones marriage break up without making sure on as many parameters as possible. esp verify both the couples pics just to make sure their lagna features [if the reported time is not right what do u do]

 

In birth time rectification also I insist on pics.

 

in other cases also if they give is welcome

 

BUT BREAK UPS, I DO INSIST, I AM NOT ASKING HER OR ANYONE FOR MONEY HERE TO DO IT JUST TO ENSURE MY WORK doesn't destroy a family by any oversight.

 

I have quite a few women members who have written to me privately [who are not visible in any post here not even Beatriz many I mean others who have yet to write a post here] on such issues and have shared their pics after sometime, this comes at times when we BUILD trust. such intervals also gives us time to see if we can breathe some hope, life to the marriage, this has its value.

 

This much I can say has come only after seeing how I handle women's issues nothing else. I don't need their praise sure. a happy home is a reward in itself.

 

smouldering_cigarette ASKED ME many questions abt me, age, experience, if answering this is MAKING TALL CLAIMS i can't give any answer.

 

she also asked

 

WHY OTHERS (ashutosh, Bhaskarji) ARE ABLE TO DO WITHOUT IT AND U INSIST on Pic n Info...? [this line is her words]

 

which I said have posted it here as well

 

I need to verify and also do give most of my readings with a time range how many r doing it here. and sad many astrologers have left/not active in the groups compared to the times when I joined I do miss Krishnan, Trivedi etc I have said this in some posts too.

 

I am not sure if I can add the ur last line yet. coming from a parampara where we don't make money to read as rule in chats, mails i randomly ask people if they want a paid or free Reading and 99.9% say free sure, and what i have given paid or free is same in style,content no discrimination for me subject is superior than us.

 

as long as time permits for me to write here will do so I orignially felt our construction work could start in Sept end, but has got delayed by the change in govt, corporation etc so early Jan next yr can be my cut off date, wil see less of me in any group.

 

best wishes

 

Prashant

 

astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr> wrote:

Dear Beatrice,

 

It is not always that the person who asked who is at fault. Sometimes the astrologer himself provokes such insults by his/her tall claims. We astrologers are very prone to have weaknesses like pride and arrogance. A few words of praises are enough to make us feel that we have found the ultimate truth in astrology.

 

I have fight with such demons inside me everyday when my satisfied clients shower me with praises and bring me huge gifts. But, I keep a good head on my shoulders knowing well that these praises and flowers can turn into brickbats and insults even when a single prediction goes wrong.

 

It is easy for me or anyone else to think of oneself as the best astrologer in or on cyber world, just because someone praised me out of his own motives to get further free advices from me. But, it is really a big mistake to think so. When I look around me I find everyone is good in some or the other ways. Even those who call themselves beginners or those who claim to be masters of jyotish. All are contributing beautifully. Each and everyone has his/her unique ways of observing and analysing the planets. What one has overlooked is promptly pointed out by another. Thus, the discussions and contributions go on.

 

I personally do not encourage long conversations on chat with unfamiliar people. I used to do so earlier, but not now. One reason is that I am mostly busy chatting with my regular clients. Secondly, I clearly tell the newcomers that I charge for every word on chat and on my personal email.

 

Regards,

 

Ashutosh

 

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searchingalight

Monday, 20 November, 2006 23:23

Re: smouldering_cigarette -intrusion 20/11

 

Dear Prashant Ji,

 

What kind of a person asks another one for help and as the helper,

out of concern, asks for further info in order to give proper help,

insults the helper?

 

Previous sentence was confusing? Yes, I didn't understand it either.

The same way I don't understand how retarded, gross, impolite . and

the list goes on., many human beings still are. Sometimes I wonder,

are we really dealing with Homo sapiens sapiens, or Troglodytes?

 

First, they invade your privacy, and you, with an open heart, try to

do your best to help, get insulted for it?

 

This kind of episodes is unpleasant or better said, they ruin our

mood, sometimes even for the coming days.

 

But, Dear Prashant Ji, I think everybody who knows you will agree on

this: You are a true Gentleman and a competent professional. So, just

put on your white gloves and carry on being Who You Are.

 

Those sprinkles of mud won't stick!

 

May God Bless You,

Beatriz

 

P.S.: Please remember the "carrot, egg and coffee" story...

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

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> Dear Ashutosh, members

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> I had this ID smouldering_cigarette BARGE IN and request to post in

an group wanted me to help her, for which I asked as usual some info

that i ask many here

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> some events, a pic or two to verify lagna features

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> when she said why u need this others don't ask these and do reply

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> I REPLIED I DO VERIFY MY WORKS esp when it comes to family break

ups, this is a huge moral responsiblity.

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> I said I verify and read all private ones sure public too I do ask

some info as my reputation is at stake

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> as I have given in most cases a date range for my readings wether

it works or not am taking the risk in the open some of the feedback

has been showing it as working

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> FOR THIS she says I am pround,

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> well if she wants me to work on hers I have to use my way of working

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> I put this in public as want to make my part clear and any info

other than this is not true.

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> I have done most of work with priority on family womens welfare in

many posts that women as care giver in family needs more atttn and if

she is happy so is family, society, in some select cases on my own

have written to women where i see abuse, violence or rape victims

which I can't won't do in public.

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> Prashant

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> btw smouldering_cigarette is a womens ID....

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