Guest guest Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 Dear Shri. Prashant: I feel Pandit Arjunji might not have taken a dig at you at all..... what he is saying is that the persons who have posted their queries elsewhere may also post in this forum so that some other astrological expert who may not be in the other groups may answer to that query....if we discourage them from posting their queries, we are denying them the opportunity to seek help from different sources.....I feel that is the motive with which he would have written the post. Pandit Arjunji is also a service-minded astrologer like your good self as far as I know. Maybe, some of his remedial methods are different from what you suggest....otherwise, we are all one in our commitment to the cause of astrology. Why should we hurt each other? Pandit Arujunji has nothing to feel hurt by your query or my answer to that.....Our effort was to enlighten the people on the futility of buying navagraha yantraas or other such amulets from ordinary shops which buy and display them with all their other fancy items without ensuring that these have been energized properly. I am sure Pandit Arujunji does not fall in that category of "ordinary shops"....I think he is very careful in choice of rudraakshaas, energizing procedures of yantraas, etc. and will not simply suggest any remedy offhand. So, our discussion has nothing to do with noble people like him at all! In fact, he will be supportive of our views on that topic that yantraas should not be used carelessly being himself learned in mantra shaastra. I have been following your posts with interest and you are definitely doing a great work....I never knew that you had only 10% vision! It is really great that you have been associated with spread of astrological knowledge all these long years! I humbly salute your great services. But, kindly do not get worked up by Pandit Arujun's post. He would not have anything malicious in his heart. It was most probably a misunderstanding. Let us leave this matter at that. This said, like yourself even I feel that once a person has got a good astrological advice from some decent astrological expert, it is unethical on the part of the person who is asking the query to raise the same free reading request repeatedly in every forum. As you have rightly pointed out, no problem about raising technical queries....this may help in spread of knowledge. But, the person asking the query may not even realize that.....an anxious soul looking for solutions will be tempted to ask almost anyone and everyone for remedies in their urgency for solutions. And more especially when some not-so-positive indications have been predicted (rightlyfully so by the astrologer), these persons unable to digest it are probably posting it in a different forum in a blind hope.....Who knows....maybe, some astrologer will be able to point out powerful remedies to nullify those negative effects indicated in the horoscope of the native! I honestly feel that it is fated by Destiny as to who should get their remedies done by which astrologer or Pandit; it is a factor of both the client's good/bad time (which will lead him/her to a noble/ exploitative astrologer) and also the astrologer's karma (as to which particular client's problems he/she can solve or guide). Why should we astrologers squabble unnecessarily over this? We will keep doing our humble services to this noble profession as we have been doing all along. Kindly leave this issue at this so that there are no hard feelings between you two learned astrologers (your good self and Pandit Arjunji - both of you are my good friends and service-minded persons in my opinion...I have the greatest regard for both of you). Nobody is wrong in that. What you are saying is one perspective.....Pandit Arjunji has approached the same situation from another perspective...that is all to it. Let your noble act of helping others in spite of your obvious physical debility (vision of only 10%) continue unhindered by Divine Grace so that all your karmaas are balanced effectively and you attain a great Punya Lokha after this life. I am marking a copy of this to the vedic forum also as per your request. Blessed be. Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. --- Me Shubha Vela <pkgoteti > wrote: > Dear Pandit Dakshinamurthy-ji, > > I hope you have seen some of my readings in the > vedic astrology group and have asked you a question > on yantras too. > > One of the resellers of the Navagraha yantras, > [rudrakshas, lal kitab remedies and Islamic remedies > like hair or horn or flesh of animals for some > profit being a Brahmin himself] who got offended by > it has taken a dig at me > > on me letting the group know of some members posting > in every group > which is NOT WRONG EVEN BY ME > > but they don't check all of the sites they post not > one of them in any group has acknowledged any > astrologer's work good or bad, which is wasting time > on free readings we have no issue if they say they > want some more info etc WILL GLADLY HELP ANYONE > > for more see my reply to Arjunji today and if you > feel that my stand is right in asking people to > acknowledge what any member has got, done so far > please support my stand. in public > else privately u can say I am wrong no problem with > this. > > > this is limited to only chart reading requests not > the technical areas where it is surely welcome amd > helps knowledge sharing a lot > > I am in the field since 1979-80 been part of the > ICAS start-up members with Late Sri K Ashwatappa, BV > RAMAN etc. i was the 26th member in the list, have > taught many people all over free, and even helped > many write astro s/w free. > read max free > my concerns are women's welfare , a happy home is a > happy society so cater to problems to suffering > women first then other queries. > been single and never got close to anyone once my > job is done forget them if they need help they > always seek replies from me. > my replies in the group and feed back on the time > here will give you and idea of my work > > I am visually handicapped with just 10% vision still > if my life helps someone surely will help them > whatever Karma I have to burn out am doing to reduce > my past lives balance sheet sure a huge deficit > > Pranam > > Prashant > > > G B Prashant Kumar > > > > > Sponsored Link > > Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. > $310k for $999/mo. 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Guest guest Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 dear dakshinamoorthiji needless to say, you have positively understood my advice to kumarji not to criticise the querents, for they are already suffering and they need compassion, love and attention. parents of a girl not getting married approach all marriage bureaus and all astrologers to get her married soon. an unemployed person applies to all vacancy ads besides consulting seveal astrologers seeking remedies. similarly all sorts of suffering people approach various people only because they are suffering. hence the person sitting in the position of giving answers or suggestion of remedies must be compassionate, considerate and attentive when they do free services on charity like we do in these public groups. however, to put things straight and simple in a layman's language, this is a public group which is the largest in the net and a native joins this group with the help of getting attention of a willing knowledgeful member to answer his query. no astrologer shall find fault in his query that too when he addresses it to the august group. for example your goodself is available for seeking a free reading in this group and not in another group. there are many knowledgeful astrologers in this group who are not present in another group. so why should anyone find fault with a rightful member of this group addressing his query to the group. on a positive note these querents give us an opportunity to serve them. many amateur astrologers hone up their skills by giving free readings in this group. imagine there are only astrologers willing to answer and not a single querent asking a query. since you broached this issue, let me explain my stand by saying that i treat all humans as god incarnate and serving the querents would only get one earn merit i.e. good karma. hence we shall not criticise and discourage the querents from asking a query. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun vedic astrology, "Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI" <dakshinastrologer wrote: > > Dear Shri. Prashant: > > I feel Pandit Arjunji might not have taken a dig at > you at all..... what he is saying is that the persons > who have posted their queries elsewhere may also post > in this forum so that some other astrological expert > who may not be in the other groups may answer to that > query....if we discourage them from posting their > queries, we are denying them the opportunity to seek > help from different sources.....I feel that is the > motive with which he would have written the post. > Pandit Arjunji is also a service-minded astrologer > like your good self as far as I know. Maybe, some of > his remedial methods are different from what you > suggest....otherwise, we are all one in our commitment > to the cause of astrology. Why should we hurt each > other? > > Pandit Arujunji has nothing to feel hurt by your query > or my answer to that.....Our effort was to enlighten > the people on the futility of buying navagraha > yantraas or other such amulets from ordinary shops > which buy and display them with all their other fancy > items without ensuring that these have been energized > properly. I am sure Pandit Arujunji does not fall in > that category of "ordinary shops"....I think he is > very careful in choice of rudraakshaas, energizing > procedures of yantraas, etc. and will not simply > suggest any remedy offhand. So, our discussion has > nothing to do with noble people like him at all! In > fact, he will be supportive of our views on that topic > that yantraas should not be used carelessly being > himself learned in mantra shaastra. > > I have been following your posts with interest and you > are definitely doing a great work....I never knew that > you had only 10% vision! It is really great that you > have been associated with spread of astrological > knowledge all these long years! I humbly salute your > great services. > > But, kindly do not get worked up by Pandit Arujun's > post. He would not have anything malicious in his > heart. It was most probably a misunderstanding. Let > us leave this matter at that. > > This said, like yourself even I feel that once a > person has got a good astrological advice from some > decent astrological expert, it is unethical on the > part of the person who is asking the query to raise > the same free reading request repeatedly in every > forum. As you have rightly pointed out, no problem > about raising technical queries....this may help in > spread of knowledge. But, the person asking the query > may not even realize that.....an anxious soul looking > for solutions will be tempted to ask almost anyone and > everyone for remedies in their urgency for solutions. > And more especially when some not-so-positive > indications have been predicted (rightlyfully so by > the astrologer), these persons unable to digest it are > probably posting it in a different forum in a blind > hope.....Who knows....maybe, some astrologer will be > able to point out powerful remedies to nullify those > negative effects indicated in the horoscope of the > native! I honestly feel that it is fated by Destiny as > to who should get their remedies done by which > astrologer or Pandit; it is a factor of both the > client's good/bad time (which will lead him/her to a > noble/ exploitative astrologer) and also the > astrologer's karma (as to which particular client's > problems he/she can solve or guide). Why should we > astrologers squabble unnecessarily over this? We will > keep doing our humble services to this noble > profession as we have been doing all along. > > Kindly leave this issue at this so that there are no > hard feelings between you two learned astrologers > (your good self and Pandit Arjunji - both of you are > my good friends and service-minded persons in my > opinion...I have the greatest regard for both of you). > Nobody is wrong in that. What you are saying is one > perspective.....Pandit Arjunji has approached the same > situation from another perspective...that is all to > it. > > Let your noble act of helping others in spite of your > obvious physical debility (vision of only 10%) > continue unhindered by Divine Grace so that all your > karmaas are balanced effectively and you attain a > great Punya Lokha after this life. > > I am marking a copy of this to the vedic forum also as > per your request. > > Blessed be. > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 Dear Pandit ji Sure I know he did not mean so and I know him well that he is not a ordinary dealer and sells energies and programmed products so nothing about this but the approach of all who sell such items may not be the same and and many can fall in that list. he has helped many people too through his remedies. But on multiple site posts i fell there is nothing worng if people only acknowledge the work by many in different groups. and at least acknowledge where eever they post by reading and replyih to all the groups which dont happen most often. that as th emotive for the post I have no other motive. G B Prashant Kumar Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI <dakshinastrologer (AT) (DOT) co.in> Me Shubha Vela <pkgoteti > Cc: vedic astrology Wednesday, November 15, 2006 1:00:51 PM [vedic astrology] Re: a request 15/11 Dear Shri. Prashant: I feel Pandit Arjunji might not have taken a dig at you at all..... what he is saying is that the persons who have posted their queries elsewhere may also post in this forum so that some other astrological expert who may not be in the other groups may answer to that query....if we discourage them from posting their queries, we are denying them the opportunity to seek help from different sources..... I feel that is the motive with which he would have written the post. Pandit Arjunji is also a service-minded astrologer like your good self as far as I know. Maybe, some of his remedial methods are different from what you suggest....otherwis e, we are all one in our commitment to the cause of astrology. Why should we hurt each other? Pandit Arujunji has nothing to feel hurt by your query or my answer to that.....Our effort was to enlighten the people on the futility of buying navagraha yantraas or other such amulets from ordinary shops which buy and display them with all their other fancy items without ensuring that these have been energized properly. I am sure Pandit Arujunji does not fall in that category of "ordinary shops"....I think he is very careful in choice of rudraakshaas, energizing procedures of yantraas, etc. and will not simply suggest any remedy offhand. So, our discussion has nothing to do with noble people like him at all! In fact, he will be supportive of our views on that topic that yantraas should not be used carelessly being himself learned in mantra shaastra. I have been following your posts with interest and you are definitely doing a great work....I never knew that you had only 10% vision! It is really great that you have been associated with spread of astrological knowledge all these long years! I humbly salute your great services. But, kindly do not get worked up by Pandit Arujun's post. He would not have anything malicious in his heart. It was most probably a misunderstanding. Let us leave this matter at that. This said, like yourself even I feel that once a person has got a good astrological advice from some decent astrological expert, it is unethical on the part of the person who is asking the query to raise the same free reading request repeatedly in every forum. As you have rightly pointed out, no problem about raising technical queries....this may help in spread of knowledge. But, the person asking the query may not even realize that.....an anxious soul looking for solutions will be tempted to ask almost anyone and everyone for remedies in their urgency for solutions. And more especially when some not-so-positive indications have been predicted (rightlyfully so by the astrologer), these persons unable to digest it are probably posting it in a different forum in a blind hope.....Who knows....maybe, some astrologer will be able to point out powerful remedies to nullify those negative effects indicated in the horoscope of the native! I honestly feel that it is fated by Destiny as to who should get their remedies done by which astrologer or Pandit; it is a factor of both the client's good/bad time (which will lead him/her to a noble/ exploitative astrologer) and also the astrologer's karma (as to which particular client's problems he/she can solve or guide). Why should we astrologers squabble unnecessarily over this? We will keep doing our humble services to this noble profession as we have been doing all along. Kindly leave this issue at this so that there are no hard feelings between you two learned astrologers (your good self and Pandit Arjunji - both of you are my good friends and service-minded persons in my opinion...I have the greatest regard for both of you). Nobody is wrong in that. What you are saying is one perspective. ....Pandit Arjunji has approached the same situation from another perspective. ..that is all to it. Let your noble act of helping others in spite of your obvious physical debility (vision of only 10%) continue unhindered by Divine Grace so that all your karmaas are balanced effectively and you attain a great Punya Lokha after this life. I am marking a copy of this to the vedic forum also as per your request. Blessed be. Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. --- Me Shubha Vela <pkgoteti > wrote: > Dear Pandit Dakshinamurthy- ji, > > I hope you have seen some of my readings in the > vedic astrology group and have asked you a question > on yantras too. > > One of the resellers of the Navagraha yantras, > [rudrakshas, lal kitab remedies and Islamic remedies > like hair or horn or flesh of animals for some > profit being a Brahmin himself] who got offended by > it has taken a dig at me > > on me letting the group know of some members posting > in every group > which is NOT WRONG EVEN BY ME > > but they don't check all of the sites they post not > one of them in any group has acknowledged any > astrologer's work good or bad, which is wasting time > on free readings we have no issue if they say they > want some more info etc WILL GLADLY HELP ANYONE > > for more see my reply to Arjunji today and if you > feel that my stand is right in asking people to > acknowledge what any member has got, done so far > please support my stand. in public > else privately u can say I am wrong no problem with > this. > > > this is limited to only chart reading requests not > the technical areas where it is surely welcome amd > helps knowledge sharing a lot > > I am in the field since 1979-80 been part of the > ICAS start-up members with Late Sri K Ashwatappa, BV > RAMAN etc. i was the 26th member in the list, have > taught many people all over free, and even helped > many write astro s/w free. > read max free > my concerns are women's welfare , a happy home is a > happy society so cater to problems to suffering > women first then other queries. > been single and never got close to anyone once my > job is done forget them if they need help they > always seek replies from me. > my replies in the group and feed back on the time > here will give you and idea of my work > > I am visually handicapped with just 10% vision still > if my life helps someone surely will help them > whatever Karma I have to burn out am doing to reduce > my past lives balance sheet sure a huge deficit > > Pranam > > Prashant > > > G B Prashant Kumar > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Sponsored Link > > Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. > $310k for $999/mo. 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Guest guest Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 Dear Arjunji I am not against people positing in other groups and here all i said is people must acknowledge they have and are seeking more info I just happened to see Sridha [ashwin062] say he has been doin this and DOES read WHEREVER HE POSTS A GOOD THING BUT TILL THEN ALL I can see he has posted is so many groups. this acknowledgment he sees and gets info for others today is good one I wanted as many of people to do it only then we can know the serious seeker from the fun seeker. on marriage bureau example it is same don't we see many people who register there don't update their profile once a marriage is fixed by sending the bureau a wedding invitation it can be settled and quite often we see such married people get enquirers years later too. same with job sites or any-other one needs to update their status, need. thanks and sure I did not mean to offend anyone If I have I am sorry G B Prashant Kumar panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > vedic astrology Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:52:57 PM [vedic astrology] Re: a request 15/11 dear dakshinamoorthiji needless to say, you have positively understood my advice to kumarji not to criticise the querents, for they are already suffering and they need compassion, love and attention. parents of a girl not getting married approach all marriage bureaus and all astrologers to get her married soon. an unemployed person applies to all vacancy ads besides consulting seveal astrologers seeking remedies. similarly all sorts of suffering people approach various people only because they are suffering. hence the person sitting in the position of giving answers or suggestion of remedies must be compassionate, considerate and attentive when they do free services on charity like we do in these public groups. however, to put things straight and simple in a layman's language, this is a public group which is the largest in the net and a native joins this group with the help of getting attention of a willing knowledgeful member to answer his query. no astrologer shall find fault in his query that too when he addresses it to the august group. for example your goodself is available for seeking a free reading in this group and not in another group. there are many knowledgeful astrologers in this group who are not present in another group. so why should anyone find fault with a rightful member of this group addressing his query to the group. on a positive note these querents give us an opportunity to serve them. many amateur astrologers hone up their skills by giving free readings in this group. imagine there are only astrologers willing to answer and not a single querent asking a query. since you broached this issue, let me explain my stand by saying that i treat all humans as god incarnate and serving the querents would only get one earn merit i.e. good karma. hence we shall not criticise and discourage the querents from asking a query. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun vedic astrology, "Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI" <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Shri. Prashant: > > I feel Pandit Arjunji might not have taken a dig at > you at all..... what he is saying is that the persons > who have posted their queries elsewhere may also post > in this forum so that some other astrological expert > who may not be in the other groups may answer to that > query....if we discourage them from posting their > queries, we are denying them the opportunity to seek > help from different sources..... I feel that is the > motive with which he would have written the post. > Pandit Arjunji is also a service-minded astrologer > like your good self as far as I know. Maybe, some of > his remedial methods are different from what you > suggest....otherwis e, we are all one in our commitment > to the cause of astrology. Why should we hurt each > other? > > Pandit Arujunji has nothing to feel hurt by your query > or my answer to that.....Our effort was to enlighten > the people on the futility of buying navagraha > yantraas or other such amulets from ordinary shops > which buy and display them with all their other fancy > items without ensuring that these have been energized > properly. I am sure Pandit Arujunji does not fall in > that category of "ordinary shops"....I think he is > very careful in choice of rudraakshaas, energizing > procedures of yantraas, etc. and will not simply > suggest any remedy offhand. So, our discussion has > nothing to do with noble people like him at all! In > fact, he will be supportive of our views on that topic > that yantraas should not be used carelessly being > himself learned in mantra shaastra. > > I have been following your posts with interest and you > are definitely doing a great work....I never knew that > you had only 10% vision! It is really great that you > have been associated with spread of astrological > knowledge all these long years! I humbly salute your > great services. > > But, kindly do not get worked up by Pandit Arujun's > post. He would not have anything malicious in his > heart. It was most probably a misunderstanding. Let > us leave this matter at that. > > This said, like yourself even I feel that once a > person has got a good astrological advice from some > decent astrological expert, it is unethical on the > part of the person who is asking the query to raise > the same free reading request repeatedly in every > forum. As you have rightly pointed out, no problem > about raising technical queries....this may help in > spread of knowledge. But, the person asking the query > may not even realize that.....an anxious soul looking > for solutions will be tempted to ask almost anyone and > everyone for remedies in their urgency for solutions. > And more especially when some not-so-positive > indications have been predicted (rightlyfully so by > the astrologer), these persons unable to digest it are > probably posting it in a different forum in a blind > hope.....Who knows....maybe, some astrologer will be > able to point out powerful remedies to nullify those > negative effects indicated in the horoscope of the > native! I honestly feel that it is fated by Destiny as > to who should get their remedies done by which > astrologer or Pandit; it is a factor of both the > client's good/bad time (which will lead him/her to a > noble/ exploitative astrologer) and also the > astrologer's karma (as to which particular client's > problems he/she can solve or guide). Why should we > astrologers squabble unnecessarily over this? We will > keep doing our humble services to this noble > profession as we have been doing all along. > > Kindly leave this issue at this so that there are no > hard feelings between you two learned astrologers > (your good self and Pandit Arjunji - both of you are > my good friends and service-minded persons in my > opinion...I have the greatest regard for both of you). > Nobody is wrong in that. What you are saying is one > perspective. ....Pandit Arjunji has approached the same > situation from another perspective. ..that is all to > it. > > Let your noble act of helping others in spite of your > obvious physical debility (vision of only 10%) > continue unhindered by Divine Grace so that all your > karmaas are balanced effectively and you attain a > great Punya Lokha after this life. > > I am marking a copy of this to the vedic forum also as > per your request. > > Blessed be. > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. 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