Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 This coup in Thailand caught me a little off guard. I wasn't expecting things to really get going until later in the Fall. Alas, my timing was off. In my blog back on May 23, however, I did predict that a time of greater political upheaval was not far off and that a "wholesale change" was likely. Here's what I wrote back in May: "After stepping down amidst charges of corruption in early April, Thailand's wealthy Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra has returned to lead his government into the next election, likely to be held later this year. This has created a predictable amount of dismay amongst opposition parties and the intelligentsia. All of this is in advance of the massive celebrations planned for June 9th, to honour His Majesty King Bhumipol's 60th year on the throne. The astrology strongly points to major incidents of civil unrest around this time. Thailand's chart is still running Jupiter- Moon dasha. The Moon therefore becomes the key planet for assessing the trend of events. Transit Saturn is still very close to the natal Moon -- just a degree or two past -- and now here comes Mars into Cancer in a few days. Having two malefics ganging up on the Moon and antardasha lord will not create peace and harmony in the Kingdom. Mars comes to the degree of the Moon just a day or two after the celebrations, while Sun will fall under the aspect of natal Ketu. This suggests a time when leaders come under stress. I am expecting the unrest to take the form of demonstrations which will include some violence. Combine those first order afflictions with some long term destabilizing transits such as stationing Uranus squaring natal Mars and transit Rahu applying to Venus, and you have the recipe for some protracted political impasse. The upcoming Mars subperiod which starts in November 2006 looks more conducive to the open conflict required to complete wholesale change. Mars is very afflicted in the D10 chart representing leaders and government. Most likely the opposing sides in the dispute will come to blows in 2007. The most precipitous time appears to be June to September 2007 and will feature major upheavals in society in Thailand that will remake the fundamental terrain of Thai politics." So I feel a little sheepish about missing the timing so much but at least I got the trend right. I'll try to hone some of these further predictions in the days ahead. You can find my blog at www.modernVedic Astrology.blogspot.com regards, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Chris, Can you please send me or post Thailand's data? Thanks MS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Dear Chris, I think you deserve praise and have nothing to be sheepish about as the events did materialize, though a bit preponed. I think the dasha order of Jup-Rahu-Mer-Moon-Jup-Mars does seem in order (360 Savana day year). Saturn and Rahu are on the verge of entering the 5th bhava and the military coup does appear to fit in at the time the coup did happen. 5th house does indicate the beginning of change. Chandrashekhar. Christopher Kevill wrote: > > This coup in Thailand caught me a little off guard. I wasn't expecting > things to really get going until later in the Fall. Alas, my timing was > off. In my blog back on May 23, however, I did predict that a time of > greater political upheaval was not far off and that a "wholesale > change" was > likely. > > Here's what I wrote back in May: > > "After stepping down amidst charges of corruption in early April, > Thailand's > wealthy Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra has returned to lead his > government into the next election, likely to be held later this year. This > has created a predictable amount of dismay amongst opposition parties and > the intelligentsia. > > All of this is in advance of the massive celebrations planned for June > 9th, > to honour His Majesty King Bhumipol's 60th year on the throne. The > astrology > strongly points to major incidents of civil unrest around this time. > Thailand's chart is still running Jupiter- Moon dasha. The Moon therefore > becomes the key planet for assessing the trend of events. Transit > Saturn is > still very close to the natal Moon -- just a degree or two past -- and now > here comes Mars into Cancer in a few days. Having two malefics ganging > up on > the Moon and antardasha lord will not create peace and harmony in the > Kingdom. Mars comes to the degree of the Moon just a day or two after the > celebrations, while Sun will fall under the aspect of natal Ketu. This > suggests a time when leaders come under stress. I am expecting the > unrest to > take the form of demonstrations which will include some violence. > > Combine those first order afflictions with some long term destabilizing > transits such as stationing Uranus squaring natal Mars and transit Rahu > applying to Venus, and you have the recipe for some protracted political > impasse. The upcoming Mars subperiod which starts in November 2006 looks > more conducive to the open conflict required to complete wholesale change. > Mars is very afflicted in the D10 chart representing leaders and > government. > Most likely the opposing sides in the dispute will come to blows in 2007. > The most precipitous time appears to be June to September 2007 and will > feature major upheavals in society in Thailand that will remake the > fundamental terrain of Thai politics." > > So I feel a little sheepish about missing the timing so much but at > least I > got the trend right. I'll try to hone some of these further predictions in > the days ahead. > > You can find my blog at www.modernVedic Astrology.blogspot.com > > regards, > Chris > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 Dear Anand, I only have his birthdate. July 26 1949. Sun Moon Mercury in Cancer. Interesting that it has been widely reported in Thailand that Thaksin decided to leave Thailand to go to the UN in New York on the advice of his trusted astrologer. I wonder if he will seek her advice again! (his astrologer is a Burmese woman) Chris , Anand <anand.ghurye wrote: > > Dear Chris , > > Congratulations ! > > Please share birthdata for for Thaksin Shinavatra if you have the same . Thanks in advance. > > Regards , > > Anand > > A. K. Ghurye > Mobile : 9820 489 416 Phone : 2685 5496 email : hmm_aha > > ------- > § Training § Development § Relationships § Synectics > > email : hmm_aha > Home page : growthanddevelopment > http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Ghurye1.html > -------- > - > Marg > > Wednesday, September 20, 2006 11:13 PM > Re: Coup in Thailand > > > Hi Chris, > > Congratulations on getting the nature of the event correct and I can really relate to exact timings being difficult to 'field' in mundane astrology. > > I myself predicted fires for my region for 1st August, but they tended to break out locally from 25th July and earlier regionally! I also predicted bad news about a leader to coincide with that of a natural catastrophe for 16th August, but nothing (other than the fires which affected national interests due to them scorching and destroying areas of natural beauty as those featured in the novels of the Bronte sisters) seems to fine tune with my dates which derived from transits of Mer then Sun over the degree of the conjunction of Saturn with Mars on 18th June, though have to confess to not tracking the news avidly at these times due to holidays etc. Though the lead stories in August did reflect that while Blair was on holiday, not only was there broiling unrest at his continuing in power, but another so called terrorist plot was being foiled as more so called terrorists were arrested. > > Contrarily I did find that the 14th March eclipse heralded the uprisings and rebellions related to increased tax on land and buildings in England, but didn't time this event at all, but wasn't surprised when Gordon Brown decided to introduce a new inheritance tax on property this year creating national fury at his new legislation proposals. > I don't publish my mundane predictions yet as I know that timing is so often thwarted by some factor I haven't yet understood beyond dasa and transit. > I think you have done well to at least get the flavour of the event right. > best wishes > Margaret > > - > Christopher Kevill > ; valist ; conjunction > Wednesday, September 20, 2006 7:25 AM > Coup in Thailand > > This coup in Thailand caught me a little off guard. I wasn't expecting > things to really get going until later in the Fall. Alas, my timing was > off. In my blog back on May 23, however, I did predict that a time of > greater political upheaval was not far off and that a "wholesale change" was > likely. > > Here's what I wrote back in May: > > "After stepping down amidst charges of corruption in early April, Thailand's > wealthy Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra has returned to lead his > government into the next election, likely to be held later this year. This > has created a predictable amount of dismay amongst opposition parties and > the intelligentsia. > > All of this is in advance of the massive celebrations planned for June 9th, > to honour His Majesty King Bhumipol's 60th year on the throne. The astrology > strongly points to major incidents of civil unrest around this time. > Thailand's chart is still running Jupiter- Moon dasha. The Moon therefore > becomes the key planet for assessing the trend of events. Transit Saturn is > still very close to the natal Moon -- just a degree or two past -- and now > here comes Mars into Cancer in a few days. Having two malefics ganging up on > the Moon and antardasha lord will not create peace and harmony in the > Kingdom. Mars comes to the degree of the Moon just a day or two after the > celebrations, while Sun will fall under the aspect of natal Ketu. This > suggests a time when leaders come under stress. I am expecting the unrest to > take the form of demonstrations which will include some violence. > > Combine those first order afflictions with some long term destabilizing > transits such as stationing Uranus squaring natal Mars and transit Rahu > applying to Venus, and you have the recipe for some protracted political > impasse. The upcoming Mars subperiod which starts in November 2006 looks > more conducive to the open conflict required to complete wholesale change. > Mars is very afflicted in the D10 chart representing leaders and government. > Most likely the opposing sides in the dispute will come to blows in 2007. > The most precipitous time appears to be June to September 2007 and will > feature major upheavals in society in Thailand that will remake the > fundamental terrain of Thai politics." > > So I feel a little sheepish about missing the timing so much but at least I > got the trend right. I'll try to hone some of these further predictions in > the days ahead. > > You can find my blog at www.modernVedic Astrology.blogspot.com > > regards, > Chris > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 Dear MI Yes, very true. The intoxicating effect of making a correct prediction seems to justify the great expense of time and frustration. Here's a story from a Thai paper that may be of interest. It's about Thaksin's astrologer. http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/09/13/headlines/headlines_30013488.php -- In , mahaluxmi iyer <astromahaluxmi wrote: > > dear CK > among hindus we say 'whatever happens, happens for the best' > it could quite be possible that thaksin might have lost his life had he been in thailand in such troubled times. thank god he is alive and can always come back later when the astmosphere is conducive. > i cannot but point out something similar which took place in pakistan. look what happend on oct 12th i am not sure about the year now, maybe 1999, for the then president nawaz sharrif, and earlier with sharrif's political arch rival benazir bhutto. its allah ki meherbaani (allah's grace) that they were allowed to flee the country and not meet the fate of zulfikar bhutto and benazir's father, who died in a jail in his own country. > now nawaz and benazir have now got together and planning a comeback as they see the general as their common political rival. > anyone can get together anytime - even the bitterest of rivals - provided they have a common foe!! all is fair in love and war. once a person tastes power he/she invariably becomes hungry for more! pity no one knows all this (fame, power, money, health) dont last forever. > it was interesting how you arrived at such a conclusion though you graciously admit it was off mark. > isn't it the dream of every astrologer worth the name to predict the time band alongwith the event? > techniques there are many, significations there are as many.... but how we finetune the prediction and hit target is the essence of this science! > mahalakshmi > > > Christopher Kevill <christopher.kevill wrote: > Dear Anand, > > I only have his birthdate. July 26 1949. Sun Moon Mercury in Cancer. > > Interesting that it has been widely reported in Thailand that Thaksin > decided to leave Thailand to go to the UN in New York on the advice of > his trusted astrologer. I wonder if he will seek her advice again! > (his astrologer is a Burmese woman) > > Chris > > , Anand <anand.ghurye@> wrote: > > > > Dear Chris , > > > > Congratulations ! > > > > Please share birthdata for for Thaksin Shinavatra if you have the > same . Thanks in advance. > > > > Regards , > > > > Anand > > > > A. K. Ghurye > > Mobile : 9820 489 416 Phone : 2685 5496 email : hmm_aha@ > > > > > ------------------------- > > § Training § Development § Relationships > § Synectics > > > > email : hmm_aha@ > > Home page : growthanddevelopment > > http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Ghurye1.html > > > ------------------------- > > - > > Marg > > > > Wednesday, September 20, 2006 11:13 PM > > Re: Coup in Thailand > > > > > > Hi Chris, > > > > Congratulations on getting the nature of the event correct and I > can really relate to exact timings being difficult to 'field' in > mundane astrology. > > > > I myself predicted fires for my region for 1st August, but they > tended to break out locally from 25th July and earlier regionally! I > also predicted bad news about a leader to coincide with that of a > natural catastrophe for 16th August, but nothing (other than the fires > which affected national interests due to them scorching and destroying > areas of natural beauty as those featured in the novels of the Bronte > sisters) seems to fine tune with my dates which derived from transits > of Mer then Sun over the degree of the conjunction of Saturn with Mars > on 18th June, though have to confess to not tracking the news avidly > at these times due to holidays etc. Though the lead stories in August > did reflect that while Blair was on holiday, not only was there > broiling unrest at his continuing in power, but another so called > terrorist plot was being foiled as more so called terrorists were > arrested. > > > > Contrarily I did find that the 14th March eclipse heralded the > uprisings and rebellions related to increased tax on land and > buildings in England, but didn't time this event at all, but wasn't > surprised when Gordon Brown decided to introduce a new inheritance tax > on property this year creating national fury at his new legislation > proposals. > > I don't publish my mundane predictions yet as I know that timing > is so often thwarted by some factor I haven't yet understood beyond > dasa and transit. > > I think you have done well to at least get the flavour of the > event right. > > best wishes > > Margaret > > > > - > > Christopher Kevill > > ; valist ; > conjunction > > Wednesday, September 20, 2006 7:25 AM > > Coup in Thailand > > > > This coup in Thailand caught me a little off guard. I wasn't expecting > > things to really get going until later in the Fall. Alas, my > timing was > > off. In my blog back on May 23, however, I did predict that a time of > > greater political upheaval was not far off and that a "wholesale > change" was > > likely. > > > > Here's what I wrote back in May: > > > > "After stepping down amidst charges of corruption in early April, > Thailand's > > wealthy Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra has returned to lead his > > government into the next election, likely to be held later this > year. This > > has created a predictable amount of dismay amongst opposition > parties and > > the intelligentsia. > > > > All of this is in advance of the massive celebrations planned for > June 9th, > > to honour His Majesty King Bhumipol's 60th year on the throne. The > astrology > > strongly points to major incidents of civil unrest around this time. > > Thailand's chart is still running Jupiter- Moon dasha. The Moon > therefore > > becomes the key planet for assessing the trend of events. Transit > Saturn is > > still very close to the natal Moon -- just a degree or two past -- > and now > > here comes Mars into Cancer in a few days. Having two malefics > ganging up on > > the Moon and antardasha lord will not create peace and harmony in the > > Kingdom. Mars comes to the degree of the Moon just a day or two > after the > > celebrations, while Sun will fall under the aspect of natal Ketu. This > > suggests a time when leaders come under stress. I am expecting the > unrest to > > take the form of demonstrations which will include some violence. > > > > Combine those first order afflictions with some long term > destabilizing > > transits such as stationing Uranus squaring natal Mars and transit > Rahu > > applying to Venus, and you have the recipe for some protracted > political > > impasse. The upcoming Mars subperiod which starts in November 2006 > looks > > more conducive to the open conflict required to complete wholesale > change. > > Mars is very afflicted in the D10 chart representing leaders and > government. > > Most likely the opposing sides in the dispute will come to blows > in 2007. > > The most precipitous time appears to be June to September 2007 and > will > > feature major upheavals in society in Thailand that will remake the > > fundamental terrain of Thai politics." > > > > So I feel a little sheepish about missing the timing so much but > at least I > > got the trend right. I'll try to hone some of these further > predictions in > > the days ahead. > > > > You can find my blog at www.modernVedic Astrology.blogspot.com > > > > regards, > > Chris > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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