RE Godmen and Women

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Teaching children to read and write, understand grammar and verbs and

nouns, not a task for rishis. That only a mother can do.No wonder,

men find it easier to turn to Godmenship.

A woman , on the other hand, in the form of a mother teaching to

walk, talk, read.....is already a Godwoman.

 

 

 

 

 

, "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Simply stated, I do not think that Rishis wrote out Jyotish in or

out

> of fear! They did not write it for their own sake either! Or they

> would have spent more time on pravrajyaa yogas, or devaprapti yogas

> and no so many thousand slokas on earning, rajyogas, marriage and

> childbearing ad infinitum! Nor would they have talked about

> ashtakavarga ;-)

>

> Just because a Ph.D. writes a children's text book or even a story

> book for children, I suppose the intention is to impart and

transfer

> some wisdom in a simple manner to the children, and not for other

> Ph.D.s to learn from, etc.

>

> Stated openly and absolutely non-critically!

>

> RR

>

> , "rishi_2000in"

> <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> >

> > Very well written indeed. This entire life evolves around fear!

> > With thoughts so profound, Prathamesh, view astrology from

another

> > angle.

> > Astrology is not just a future knowing tool. It began when rishis

> > were not so fearful. It began as a method to understand nature

and

> > how nature affects human beings. It is the 'fearful' seeker of

this

> > age that starts converting astrology in a precision tool which

> should

> > be able to pinpoint each event exactly.

> > When religion, philosophy, science all are still searching for a

> > theory of everything how can astrology in itself give the answer?

> > And then we particularly in Jyotish say...all that had to be

known

> > about Jyotish was done by our ancient seers, they had all

answers,

> so

> > follow them literally or perish...the fear again!

> > Jyotish should also be a continuously evolving vidya and it is.

> > Itshould be there to guide , it cannot give the answers in

> isolation.

> > What every man/ woman needs to do in terms of efforts,

> decisionmaking

> > cannot be replaced by merely jyotish.

> >

> > A chart, has so many potentialities and possibilities...well we

> cant

> > discuss it here for you said, no reading, so whats your mail,

will

> > mail it you seperately.

> > regards

> >

> > rishi

> >

> >

> > , Prathamesn Chawan

> > <upaoakcrest@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Sir and Divya Ji,

> > >

> > > Everyhouse in the horoscope belongs to 'fear." Fear of not

> > getting respect, not having money, not having brothers, not

having

> > love of mother, not having kids, marriage, death, GOD,

recognition,

> > income and Moksha.

> > >

> > >

> > > Indeed whole astrology is generated by some very "fearful"

> rishi

> > and being continued by some very fearful people like me and

others

> > present in the group.

> > >

> > > Otherwise whats the need of knowing the future ? Why cant a

> human

> > being accept whatever is given by GOD ?

> > >

> > > Howcome "Moha" leads to loss of courage. Many people wants to

> be

> > rich and famous. Its moha. To attain their goals they show

courage.

> > Some people get success and some dont. So "moha" is a catalytic

> agent

> > for having courage.

> > >

> > > 3rd lord and 12th lord can lead to fearfulness ? How ? Any

> chart

> > showing that ?

> > >

> > > I would really like to have chart showing this.

> > >

> > > Best Wishes

> > >

> > > Jagdish

> > > crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > Kumar ji,

> > >

> > > Your kindness overestimates this tiny ant, Sir :-)

> > >

> > > What more could I say that would really be better than what

> > > scriptures have said.

> > >

> > > Fear is loss of courage. Courage is seen from 3rd house. The

> house

> > > that is 12th therefrom is 2nd. 2nd is about accumulatables,

> > > acquisitions, holdings. Moha in other words, desires,

attachments

> > and

> > > possessions that may lead to loss of courage (though

> paradoxically,

> > > they are also acquired at times by overcoming fear!).

> > >

> > > Association of 3rd and 12th may lead to fearfulness. However,

if

> > > strong planets or benefics are involved, the nature of fear may

> > > change.

> > >

> > > Mars indicates bravery and courage and if afflicted may give a

> > > fearful tendency. Lunar nodes have been associated with phobias

> > > (extreme, paralyzing fear) and if afflicted and ssociated

> adversely

> > > with indicators of courage and bravery may induce fear.

> > >

> > > However, I do not wish someone to generalize this and then try

to

> > > apply in a given chart and without taking other factors into

> > > consideration dismiss same. Have seen that happen often :-)

hence

> > > must sound the caution!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Divya,

> > > >

> > > > From what little i can gather from our Purana, Itihasas,

> > > Upanishads the 2 most talked about issues are fear and favor.

> when

> > > we over come these, we are a superior being than we r now.

> > > >

> > > > all the rakshasas who did severe penance got great boons

close

> > > to imortality, invincibity and yet had a loophole in the boons

> > > still suffered from it at ttimes

> > > >

> > > > the greatest loophole being their ego once it out grew them

> boons

> > > the end was apparent-Vinasha kale vipreetha buddhi.

> > > >

> > > > say Narakusara, ravana, shisupala, etc ravana is best

> > > illustrated when he is asked by Rama a mere mortal to come next

> day

> > > when his charriotr was killed, and his charriot broken and

ravans

> > > weapons exhausted a mere mortal gives me a reprive what an

> > > inviincible warrior Iam this let him down most next day.

> > > >

> > > > AS I KNOW 3RD house and all Upachaya houses deal with this

> acpet

> > > u said and above all the others too Lagna, 4th 10th in terms of

> > > personality, strenght of mind, character, and succes in efforts.

> > > > upachaya i said y'day in a mail u can add them too.

> > > >

> > > > rest sure Sri RR ji will add in better style, content than

mine

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sir,

> > > >

> > > > It is an interesting thought.....

> > > >

> > > > >And perhaps through that exercise we go beyond it and face

> > > other bigger fears that keep growing over time, over lifetimes?

> > > >

> > > > Maybe, since fear is for the future, we have to finally learn

> > > to live in the present moment. And accept whatever happens. And

> be

> > > one with God's will. Seems like all these things are

> > related .......

> > > for achieving that perfect state of equilibrium where nothing

> > > affects us.

> > > >

> > > > Also I feel that whatever we fear, comes to us.....whether we

> > > want to face it or not.

> > > >

> > > > I would request you to add how we should see in a chart, what

a

> > > person fears What is the definition of fear in Jyotish terms.

Is

> it

> > > a complexity of mind? Is it lack of confidence? Does it arise

> from

> > > some unfulfilled desire? Which planets should we associate with

> it?

> > > >

> > > > Lots of questions... ...

> > > > Do reply.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Divya

> > > >

> > > > 9

> > > >

> > > > Prashantkumar G B

> > > >

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