Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 ll HARE RAM ll Dear, As i say again and again the said chaupaie of Ramcharitmans as - "PARHIT SARIS DHARAM NAHI BHAI,PAR PEEDA SAM NAHI ADHMAHI." but must do the same by all three means as MANSA,WACHA and KARMANA.Ho gai pooja.It is not harder either to tapasvi or grasthi truly and have firm belief in Kind God and ourselves.Think positively and fight with the problems bravely as- "YE PAST HONSALE WALE TERA SAATH KYA DENGE, JINDAGI MERE PAAS AA TUJHE HAM GUJAARENGE." God bless Shashie Shekhar bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Yes Sir, its easy for a grahasta to reach God by performing his daily karmas alloted to him, while much harder for a tapasvi . This song is very good to hear and beautiful wordings. , Prafulla Gang wrote: > > Dear Surya ji > > see, the priorities and religious rituals for sanyasi and sansarik is different; and all religions prescribe different norms for both. You can not or rather should not assume that sansarik human being (grasth) can be asked with the same yard sticks. > > Tulsidas ji ne kaha ki - sansarik prani ram nam lene se hi acchi gati pa sakta hi; jabki, sadhu ko tapasya karni padto hi. > > I must quote you a famous movie "chitra lekha" starrring pradeep kumar and mina kumari. and there is famous song - sansar se bhage phirta ho, bhagwan ko tum kys paoga; eis jeevan ko apna ne sake, us jiven ko kya apnaoge....Towards the end of climax - sadhu ashok kumar tries to rape the mina kumari and mina kumari, who is playing the role of prostitute - becomes sadhvi.. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > Lincoln studied by the light of a fireplace. Mozart composed by candlelight. Galileo invented by oil lamp. Didn't they ever think to do their work during the daytime? > > > > > > gbp_kumar > > Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:16:02 -0700 (PDT) > > > > Re: Idol Worship 1/8 > > > > Surya, > > this posts of urs on datta and saying all other images, idols practices > > r useless will render the faith v weak already targeted by numerous > > fakes around and mas conversions by imperialistic faiths. > > > > u need an image to concentrate or associate ur payers any day while > > living in the mundane world striving to earn a living for the self, > > family and society too many do help one another in distress whether he > > can afford or not. and times of stress no image may not help > > Rather helps in the bhakta briging his wandering mind back > > for saints or ones who have given up the need to work bu giving all > > they have to the ashrams and then living in a sheltered life no need to > > earn we can say any thing which wont help the normal person > > the CHURCH HAS SUFFERED DUE TO over SIMPLIFICATION- the bible was a > > fore bidden one for ages once it became common it was good for a short > > time, now so simple that like any novel can be part of ur bookshelf, > > not ur life. > > simplification of the faith so simple u need to send church only at > > weddings, funerals , funerals u can mail order a wreath too weddings u > > can do same send a bouquet slowly need to go is gone now u can outsource > > prayers as u see Kerala churches pray for UK bhaktas > > in France for 45 churches there is one priest who does all from baptism > > to grave for all but as he cant be every where funeral surely he is and > > the other regular church goers does the MAKE SHIFT priest for weddign, > > baptism etc. > > > > the Church attendance in US is hardly 1 % and Europe 2-2.5.% percent in > > India and Asia where massive conversion is on there is good attendance > > till how they foresaked Hinduism same trend will catch up and will throw > > church also like their westerners. > > > > but having some faith is no harm than no faith, we don't have joint > > families or elders to guide small issues, stress of young weds and > > marriages are breaking families torn apart let there be order, faith in > > some way once we remove symbols we loose the mansion brick by brick ur > > concepts r good for the person who has seen all stages of line not ones > > struggling up the ladder. > > > > u can 1st see people have faith 1st now only IDOL or GOD i money none > > else so try to get the image shifted then we can look at the idol u > > said. > > > > LET THEIR BE FAITH, IDOLS, SYMBOLS, DELIGHT IN THE WORKMANSHIP OF > > FELLOW HUMANS who earn a living even making them, taking care of them > > worshipping them or even smuggling them to richer pastures. > > > > > > > > surya wrote: > > You asked me whether I am following it or not? The answer is yes. I > > have identified the lord in human form by the divine knowledge > > preached by Him and serving Him in His mission by way of divine > > knowledge propagation and contributing some money as per my capacity. > > > > Here, in this mission of Lord datta Swamiji, only practical > > knowledge is preached and propagated. No theoretical and imaginary > > worships. Why to provide innumerable number of feasts to the Lord in > > the imagination? Give Him a handful of rice in the reality. > > > > At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami > > surya > > www.universal-spirituality.org > > > > "bhaskar_jyotish" wrote: > > > Dear Sri Ganesh, > > > Not required actually because then You tend to get entangled in > > > this replying busines thus essential time is lost which could have > > > been utilsed for more fruitful.... > > > But dont worry, he is well paid missionary.,will come back > > > periodically to distort statements from ........ > > > and push his ideologies.... > > > > > > Bye. > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashantkumar G B > > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on group > > but > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or phone. > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- > > 09840051861 > > > > > > > > > > > > Groups are talking. We´re listening. Check out the handy changes to > > . > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 RAM RAM SIR, Wah wah. Bahut acha likha. Suryaji ki badaulat Ramcharitmanas ki chaupayi bhi padh li sone se pahle. Bhaskar. , shashi shekhar sharma <polite_astro wrote: > > ll HARE RAM ll > Dear, > As i say again and again the said chaupaie of Ramcharitmans as - > "PARHIT SARIS DHARAM NAHI BHAI,PAR PEEDA SAM NAHI ADHMAHI." > but must do the same by all three means as MANSA,WACHA and KARMANA.Ho gai pooja.It is not harder either to tapasvi or grasthi truly and have firm belief in Kind God and ourselves.Think positively and fight with the problems bravely as- > "YE PAST HONSALE WALE TERA SAATH KYA DENGE, > JINDAGI MERE PAAS AA TUJHE HAM GUJAARENGE." > > God bless > Shashie Shekhar > > > bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Yes Sir, its easy for a grahasta to reach God by performing his daily > karmas alloted to him, while much harder for a tapasvi . > This song is very good to hear and beautiful wordings. > > > , Prafulla Gang > wrote: > > > > Dear Surya ji > > > > see, the priorities and religious rituals for sanyasi and sansarik > is different; and all religions prescribe different norms for both. > You can not or rather should not assume that sansarik human being > (grasth) can be asked with the same yard sticks. > > > > Tulsidas ji ne kaha ki - sansarik prani ram nam lene se hi acchi > gati pa sakta hi; jabki, sadhu ko tapasya karni padto hi. > > > > I must quote you a famous movie "chitra lekha" starrring pradeep > kumar and mina kumari. and there is famous song - sansar se bhage > phirta ho, bhagwan ko tum kys paoga; eis jeevan ko apna ne sake, us > jiven ko kya apnaoge....Towards the end of climax - sadhu ashok kumar > tries to rape the mina kumari and mina kumari, who is playing the > role of prostitute - becomes sadhvi.. > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > Lincoln studied by the light of a fireplace. Mozart composed by > candlelight. Galileo invented by oil lamp. Didn't they ever think to > do their work during the daytime? > > > > > > > > > > gbp_kumar@ > > > Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:16:02 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > Re: Idol Worship 1/8 > > > > > > Surya, > > > this posts of urs on datta and saying all other images, idols > practices > > > r useless will render the faith v weak already targeted by > numerous > > > fakes around and mas conversions by imperialistic faiths. > > > > > > u need an image to concentrate or associate ur payers any day > while > > > living in the mundane world striving to earn a living for the > self, > > > family and society too many do help one another in distress > whether he > > > can afford or not. and times of stress no image may not help > > > Rather helps in the bhakta briging his wandering mind back > > > for saints or ones who have given up the need to work bu giving > all > > > they have to the ashrams and then living in a sheltered life no > need to > > > earn we can say any thing which wont help the normal person > > > the CHURCH HAS SUFFERED DUE TO over SIMPLIFICATION- the bible > was a > > > fore bidden one for ages once it became common it was good for a > short > > > time, now so simple that like any novel can be part of ur > bookshelf, > > > not ur life. > > > simplification of the faith so simple u need to send church > only at > > > weddings, funerals , funerals u can mail order a wreath too > weddings u > > > can do same send a bouquet slowly need to go is gone now u can > outsource > > > prayers as u see Kerala churches pray for UK bhaktas > > > in France for 45 churches there is one priest who does all from > baptism > > > to grave for all but as he cant be every where funeral surely he > is and > > > the other regular church goers does the MAKE SHIFT priest for > weddign, > > > baptism etc. > > > > > > the Church attendance in US is hardly 1 % and Europe 2-2.5.% > percent in > > > India and Asia where massive conversion is on there is good > attendance > > > till how they foresaked Hinduism same trend will catch up and > will throw > > > church also like their westerners. > > > > > > but having some faith is no harm than no faith, we don't have > joint > > > families or elders to guide small issues, stress of young weds and > > > marriages are breaking families torn apart let there be order, > faith in > > > some way once we remove symbols we loose the mansion brick by > brick ur > > > concepts r good for the person who has seen all stages of line > not ones > > > struggling up the ladder. > > > > > > u can 1st see people have faith 1st now only IDOL or GOD i > money none > > > else so try to get the image shifted then we can look at the > idol u > > > said. > > > > > > LET THEIR BE FAITH, IDOLS, SYMBOLS, DELIGHT IN THE WORKMANSHIP > OF > > > FELLOW HUMANS who earn a living even making them, taking care of > them > > > worshipping them or even smuggling them to richer pastures. > > > > > > > > > > > > surya wrote: > > > You asked me whether I am following it or not? The answer is yes. > I > > > have identified the lord in human form by the divine knowledge > > > preached by Him and serving Him in His mission by way of divine > > > knowledge propagation and contributing some money as per my > capacity. > > > > > > Here, in this mission of Lord datta Swamiji, only practical > > > knowledge is preached and propagated. No theoretical and > imaginary > > > worships. Why to provide innumerable number of feasts to the > Lord in > > > the imagination? Give Him a handful of rice in the reality. > > > > > > At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami > > > surya > > > www.universal-spirituality.org > > > > > > "bhaskar_jyotish" wrote: > > > > Dear Sri Ganesh, > > > > Not required actually because then You tend to get entangled > in > > > > this replying busines thus essential time is lost which could > have > > > > been utilsed for more fruitful.... > > > > But dont worry, he is well paid missionary.,will come back > > > > periodically to distort statements from ........ > > > > and push his ideologies.... > > > > > > > > Bye. > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashantkumar G B > > > > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on > group > > > but > > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or > phone. > > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- > > > 09840051861 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Groups are talking. We´re listening. Check out the handy > changes to > > > . > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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