Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Is this city located in the etheric/astral plane and only able to be visited by yogis and adepts in their astral bodies? Or is it in the physical Himalayas, but sheilded from our view by Lord Kubera? For those who do not know: In Hinduism, Alaka, which is also sometimes called Alakapuri, is a mythical city in the Himalayas. It is the home of Kubera, the god of wealth, and his attendants called yakshas.Source: Wikipedia Also: Lord Kubera is well known to every one. Very few people would be unware of his fame. By Chanting his name again and again prosperous life will result. Lord Kubera is the leader of "Yatchars", he is the very best among them. Many people do not know that there is difference between "Yatchars" and "Bhoothaganas". Rakshas of Shiva are semi-divine gods and their devotees are "Bhoothaganas". "Yatchars" are there to help mankind and procure wealth. They plead with the Lord for the betterment of good people and the created to help devotees. Kubera is one of the "Yatchars", he is very much devoted to Shiva. He performed severe penance invoking the blessing of Shiva. He impressed Shiva with his immense Bhakti and relentless efforts. Shiva gave darshan to Kubera with Goddess Parvathi. Kubera was stunned to see the splendor and beauty of Goddess Parvathi. He felt sorry that he had not worshipped such a fine Goddess earlier and one of his eyes winked. Goddess Parvathi was angry that Kubera was seeing her with evil intention. She made his eye burst. Kubera lost one eye sight. Lord Kubera requested Siva to forgive him and pleaded that he had not seen the Goddess with any evil intention. Siva asked Goddess to decide. Goddess Parvathi forgave Kubera and let one of the eyes grow on smaller size. So one eye of Kubera is smaller that the other. Kubera was rewarded by Shiva with the post of one of the Guards of eight dishas. Kubera was given the post of guarding northen disha. Goddess made him the Lord of wealth and materials. Kubera is the God of wealth and material but not its originator. His responsibilities is to distribute the above two things properly. Creating wealth and distributing the same is the divine mother Goddess Lakshmi. Kubera is seen with his family in the photographs. In his hand a vessel strued with Navarathinas will be there, in some photographs he is seen as blessing and the Gold coins and Navarathinas are pouring down. Lord Balaji or Venkateswara at Thirupathi is said to have Borrowed money form Kubera for his marriage and he is still paying the interest on the loan amount. Hence it would seem that Lord Venkateswara will be in protection during the ashadmasa. Kubera is the God of wealth and other worldly things. So doing the Pooja to Kubera will enrich one's life. However that in itself is not enough. To have a wealthy and comfortable life one has to perform Sri Lakshmi Kubera Pooja only. There are separate Mantras and Vidhis to perform the same. They are to be strictly followed. Pooja performed on Pournima and "Amavasaha" days in November will give very good results. Even ordinary people can do Kubera Pooja. It should be done with discipline and Sincerity. srilakshmikuberartemple.org/history.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahnava Nitai Das Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Kubera doesn't live on our physical plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Kubera doesn't live on our physical plane. Why is it said to be in the Himalayas? I think this is what confuses some people. It's like they talk about Shangri-la, and people go on explorations looking for this mythical land in the Himalayas. But they really are speaking about a place in the astral plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 every culture has its own way of describing its knowledge of its own history. dont assume that the one we uise today, derived from european foundations, is the only one. The Indian one is through many stories such as this. It doesnt neccessarily have to be on an astral plane.... -------In Hinduism, Alaka, which is also sometimes called Alakapuri, is a mythical city in the Himalayas. It is the home of Kubera, the god of wealth, and his attendants called yakshas. ------- Maybe it was a wealthy city in the Himalaya that existed sometime in the period between 500 BC and 1000 AD. It may have been an important stop on the trade routes between Persia, India and China. This would be why it is the home of the god of wealth. His 'attendants called yakshas' also lived there. These could have been any number of ethnic groups that occupy the Indian/Chinese border zones. Wikipedia also says that yakshas are a dual-personality being, sometimes described as wood-nymphs associated with woods and forests. THe second personality is a dark one, associated with cannibalism and wilderness. This can easily be a description of one of many tribal groups or societiees in the area. The dual-personality description clearly indicates a semi-familiarity. Yakshas referring to the people that live there, yet which when encountered may be good friendly groups or aggressive scary people. Perhaps they were not tribal, but foreign. A foreign or regional group that controlled a city where wealth was to be found. The word alaka means 'locks of hair' so it seems evident that saddhus and other yogis were present in the area. Perhaps it was from them and their stories and preachings that other peoeple outside the area came to hear about them and spread the message about them. Aother question we should be asking is where would it have been. Now the HImalaya is a huge stretch of land and finding it would not be easy and maybe not practical either. But, it probnably was out there and may still even BE out there. Perhaps the name changed and people built new dwellings and buildings over the old ones. Perhaps it is an abandoned city somewhere in the mountains. Perhaps it is completely covered by dirt and rocks. Perhaps it was destroyed. Who KNows???? Who knows?? Perhaps alakapuri gave travelling spiritual-seekers a guide to go to in order to find sadddhus with their dread locks and learn their wisdom, the true wealth of the world. hense the city of the god of wealth. Whichever it was, i doubt it is a introspective thing. It was probably a description of a historical city somewhere in the Himalaya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Lord Kubera's city is still somewhere (why would it be abandoned?), but I doubt it's visible but to great sages or those who perform tapas to see it. Most likely it's in another dimension that exists in conjunction with that Himalayan region. I believe Yakshas & Yakshinis are REAL otherwordly beings. I have read too many stories about them being seen by Indian villagers, even in our modern time. They are especially seen at auspicious times, when certain Pujas are performed. I have not seen one, but have heard enough to not doubt their existence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Lord Kubera's city is still somewhere (why would it be abandoned?), but I doubt it's visible but to great sages or those who perform tapas to see it. Most likely it's in another dimension that exists in conjunction with that Himalayan region. I believe Yakshas & Yakshinis are REAL otherwordly beings. I have read too many stories about them being seen by Indian villagers, even in our modern time. They are especially seen at auspicious times, when certain Pujas are performed. I have not seen one, but have heard enough to not doubt their existence. It may be abandoned like any other ancient city that is no longer inhabited.....such as Teotihuacan in Mexico or Mohenjo-Daro or Harappa. People live in them, some eventually get destroyed, some continue to exist and evolve asthetically, some get abandoned. Thats the nature of life. Just because it is called Kubera's city doesnt mean it will exist forever. It just means that some city was associated wth great wealth during the time that the text describing the city in such a way was written. I never said Yakshas and Yakshinis were fake. THey are real. They are the ethnic groups that were identified and living in India yet not living within the populist HIndu/Buddhist/Indian cultures. They were probably on the frignes of society, either foreign ethnicities in India such as the Indo-Mongoloid peoples of the north east or like adivasis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 It may be abandoned like any other ancient city that is no longer inhabited.....such as Teotihuacan in Mexico or Mohenjo-Daro or Harappa. People live in them, some eventually get destroyed, some continue to exist and evolve asthetically, some get abandoned. Thats the nature of life. Just because it is called Kubera's city doesnt mean it will exist forever. It just means that some city was associated wth great wealth during the time that the text describing the city in such a way was written. Lord Kubera is not homeless now. The Astral regions (lokas) have cities. Those who astral travel have visited such cities. An advanced yogi no doubt could travel to the etheric retreat of Kubera, and verify it's existence. I never said Yakshas and Yakshinis were fake. THey are real. They are the ethnic groups that were identified and living in India yet not living within the populist HIndu/Buddhist/Indian cultures. They were probably on the frignes of society, either foreign ethnicities in India such as the Indo-Mongoloid peoples of the north east or like adivasis. I am not speaking of tribals. The testimonies I have read about involve supernatural beings and had nothing to do with any tribal group on Planet Earth today. There are various astral beings and nature spirits that exist in other dimensions. They sometimes appear to people during rituals or to those who have psychic vision to see into other dimensions. There are rituals that go on at night in certain villages, where these beings are still seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Perhaps both versions are true: physical and astral, with each influencing the other. Who says they have to be distinct and totally separate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahnava Nitai Das Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Why is it said to be in the Himalayas? There are three levels of the himalayas, each for different levels of living entities. In the higher levels are places like kailash where Lord Shiva resides. They are actually other planets, but they are mystically all linked together in the astral plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 There are three levels of the himalayas, each for different levels of living entities. In the higher levels are places like kailash where Lord Shiva resides. They are actually other planets, but they are mystically all linked together in the astral plane. Maybe true, but what are you basing this idea on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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