Arjuna was Vishaka?

[Bhava dasa 0]

It is stated in the Gaura-ganoddesa-dipika (120–24), that Ramananda Raya was formerly Arjuna. In addition, some say that he is an incarnation of Vishaka (while others say Lalita).

 

Logically speaking, one would assume that this being the case, Arjuna must also be an incarnation of Vishaka (or Lalita).

 

In other words, if A equals B, and A equals C, then B and C must equal each other. However, there is argument that this type of logic does not necessarily apply in spiritual reality.

 

Any thoughts?

[Jahnava Nitai Das 2]

There are many multiple personality incarnations and multiple empowerments, thus A doesn't always equal C.

[Bhava dasa 0]

 

There are many multiple personality incarnations and multiple empowerments, thus A doesn't always equal C.

Any examples?

[Jahnava Nitai Das 2]

I have seen many but it will take me a few days to get them, as I am a little busy now. Dattatreya is a famous non Gaudiya example, but I will give some better examples.

[Guest guest]

Lord Brahma does not discontinue to be creator and resident of Brahmaloka whiole living as Haridas Thakur. The perfected demigods can expaqND THEMSELVES, i THINK pRABHUPADA MENTIONS, UP TO EIGHT TIMES.

[Bhava dasa 0]

 

Lord Brahma does not discontinue to be creator and resident of Brahmaloka whiole living as Haridas Thakur. The perfected demigods can expaqND THEMSELVES, i THINK pRABHUPADA MENTIONS, UP TO EIGHT TIMES.

Quote or reference from Vedic literature?

[Guest guest]

It is said that during the advent of Lord Caitanya, Sadasiva appeared as Advaita Prabhu - Srila Prabhupada's purport to SB 4.6.39

 

Then in the twelfth and thirteenth verses he describes Advaitäcärya, who is another principal associate of Lord Caitanya Mahäprabhu’s and an incarnation of Maha-Vinsu. Thus Advaitäcärya is also the Lord, or, more precisely, an expansion of the Lord. - Srila Prabhupada's introduction to the CC

 

At that time the boy was only six years old. Text 87 of the Gaura-gaëoddeça-dépikä, compiled by Çré Kavi-karëapüra, describes Acyutänanda as a disciple of Gadädhara Paëòita and a great and dear devotee of Lord Caitanya Mahäprabhu. According to the opinion of some, he was an incarnation of Kärttikeya, the son of Lord Siva, and according to others he was formerly the gopé named Acyutä. The Gaura-gaëoddeça-dépikä (88) supports both these opinions. - Srila Prabhupada's purport to CC Adi 12.17

[Kulapavana 0]

 

It is stated in the Gaura-ganoddesa-dipika (120–24), that Ramananda Raya was formerly Arjuna. In addition, some say that he is an incarnation of Vishaka (while others say Lalita).

 

for a sadhaka like myself Arjuna is simply a constant companion of Krsna. some say he and Krsna constantly travel from universe to universe performing similar pastimes (like Nara and Narayana). some say there is a planet (place) in Vaikuntha where the battle of Kurukshetra rages on all the time and thats where Arjuna resides. others say he is an incarnation of Vishaka or Lalita...

 

whatever... it is all beyond my ability to comprehend.

[Kamalasana Das 0]

(like Nara and Narayana).

[Guest guest]

 

some say there is a planet (place) in Vaikuntha where the battle of Kurukshetra rages on all the time and thats where Arjuna resides. others say he is an incarnation of Vishaka or Lalita...

 

since Vaikuntha is part of the eternal spiritual world, how can there be battles there? isn't it a place of "perfect" peace?

[Jahnava Nitai Das 2]

since Vaikuntha is part of the eternal spiritual world, how can there be battles there? isn't it a place of "perfect" peace?

Some acharyas have mentioned a Partha Sarathi Loka, where there is eternal Gita Upadesha with Bhishma and Arjuna listening. Physically no battle takes place, but the mood is that a battle is about to begin.

[Bhava dasa 0]

 

According to the opinion of some, he was an incarnation of Kärttikeya, the son of Lord Siva, and according to others he was formerly the gopé named Acyutä. The Gaura-gaëoddeça-dépikä (88) supports both these opinions. - Srila Prabhupada's purport to CC Adi 12.17

These aren't necessarily two different personalities in one body.

 

Arjuna and Vishaka (or Lilita) were present on the planet at the same time. It appears that he wasn't one of them. However Ramananda Ray (who appeared later) is both Arjuna and Vishaka (or Lalita ). Therefore he is a multiple personality, or somehow combined.

 

So, while A=B, and A=C, B (doesn't necessarily)=C -- in spiritual reality.