Phaladeepika & Mahapurusha Yoga from Moon/Bharat 2

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Dear Sri Chandrasekhar,

 

As I don't have the necessary Sanskrit font, I was unable to read the

shloka properly. However, I checked in Jataka Parijatha again. It is

the 59th Shloka in Chapter 7. So I believe we must be talking about

the same shloka.

 

I am referring to the Telugu translation by Sri Upadrashta Kameswara

Rao published by Gollapudi Veeraswamy Publications, Rajahmundry. Most

Telugu based astrologers consider this book as the authentic

translation. The translator clearly mentioned that the Mahapurusha

Yoga applies from Lagna as well as Chandra.

 

I am reiterating what I wrote before. A planet in strength, in own or

exalted house and in Kendra from Moon has its own significations,

even though we don't necessarily call it a Maha purusha yoga. The

results in such a case are similar to those that are mentioned with

respect to the planet in kendra from Lagna. What I mean is that the

translators must have experienced such results and hence must have

included Chandra lagna also in their translations. That is why in

some translations we may see such an interpretation, though not

explicitly mentioned in the shloka.

 

When I consider my exalted Budha in kendra from Moon akin to Bhadra

Mahapurusha Yoga, I am referring not only to the maha dasha, but also

to the physical charateristics and the special marks in the palm. A

number of characteristics do match to me. I also do palmistry and

therefore attempted to view these marks differentiating them other

major and minor lines and their intersections on the palm. After I

clearly observed these comparable features, it lead me to believe

that the kendra position from Moon also might be sensible, as

suggested by some translators.

 

As it is happening with a number of shlokas picked from different

classics (which are being researched by knowledged and experienced

astrologers these days), I felt it may be sensible to interpret Maha

purusha yoga from Moon lagna also even though the original author may

not have mentioned explicitly so.

 

I do agree that exalted Mercury gives good results in its dasha, but

I strongly consider its kendra position from Moon has added

additional strength to exalted Mercury.

 

I hope I clarified my viewpoint, and welcome your opinion.

 

Best regards,

Satya Sai Kolachina

 

 

, Chandrashekhar

<chandrashekhar46> wrote:

>

> Dear Satya,

>

> I am unable to find the shloka you are mentioning in Jataka

Parijata,

> for Mahapurusha yoga. As far as I know, Jataka Parijata says at CH7

> shloka 59:

>

> mUliÇkae[injtu¼g&haepyata ÉaEm}jIvistÉanusuta bilóa>,

>

> mülatrikoëanijatuìgagåhopayätä bhaumajïajévasitabhänusutä baliñöhäù|

>

> keNÔiSwta yid tda êcÉÔh<smalVycaêzzyaegkra ÉviNt.59.

>

> kendrasthitä yadi tadä rücabhadrahaàsamälavyacärüçaçayogakarä

bhavanti||59||

>

> _When Mangal, Budha, Guru, Shukra or Shani occupy their

Moolatrikona,

> own or exaltation rasi in strength and should they be placed in a

> Kendra, Ruchaka, Bhadra, Hamsa, Malavya and Shasha yogas occur._

>

> Are you referring to any other shloka? Is there any other edition

of

> jataka Parijata that gives any other shloka, that is with you?

> I hope you are not referring to subsequent shlokas that give

additional

> results on account of even one of Dharmesha (9th lord), Labhesha

(11th

> lord) or Dhanesha (2nd lord) being in Kendra to Chandra, Guru being

the

> lord of Labha, for Ruchaka yoga jataka getting unlimited Kingdom.

>

> The shloka appears in Sanskrit 99 and ULW Palladio IT fonts in

alternate

> lines beginning with the first line.

>

> Awaiting your response.

>

> By the way, it is not only a Panch Mahapurusha yoga that gives good

> results in the dasha of a graha. So only because you had good

Mercury

> dasha, by itself would not prove that when Mercury is in Kendra

from

> Moon would indicate that the yoga is Panch Mahapurusha yoga.

Manasagari

> says that if Sun or Moon join graha causing Mahapurusha yoga, the

yoga

> is broken. Saravali also says similar thing.

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Satya Sai Kolachina wrote:

> > Dear Sri Chandrasekhar, Bharat and others,

> >

> > In Jataka Parijatham (Vaidyanatha Kritha), the author (or

translator)

> > expressed the view of seeing the Pancha Maha Purusha Yogas from

Moon

> > also. The author says, that the mahapurusha yoga occurs when any

of

> > these five (Mars, Merc, Jup, Venus, Saturn) planets is/are

located in

> > own house or exaltation, and in a kendra from either Lagna or

Moon.

> > He did not say Moon or Lagna whichever is strong. He clarly said

> > either of them, which means he gave equal importance to Moon Rasi

as

> > of Lagna itself.

> >

> > I think different translators differ in the interpretations, and

may

> > be influenced by their own views/experiences.

> >

> > My opinion:

> >

> > I myself have exalted Mercury in a kendra from Moon (not from

Lagna)

> > and I believe my Mercury Maha dasha has been excellent and gave me

> > unexpected rise in life. I am not a public figure but compared to

> > where I was before and where I am, I see a change of very high

> > magniture. I believe I have some of the characteristics of Bhadra

> > Maha purusha yoga, though we may not accept it that way or call it

> > that way. My opinion is, a planet in strength in kendra from Moon

has

> > its own significance, whether we call it a maha purusha yoga or

not.

> >

> > I also have Sasa Maha Purusha Yoga from Lagna. Saturn maha dasha

also

> > gave me spectacular results (after extreme hardwork, because Sa in

> > Kendra).

> >

> > If I compare the two Maha dashas, I may have to say that my Merc

Maha

> > dasha seems to be more superior in its results.

> >

> > Also one of my daughters has Bhadra maha purusha yoga with

exalted in

> > Mercury in 10th house along with Sun (with directional strength

also

> > forming Budha Aditya yoga in 10th house (with Sa in Moola Trikona

not

> > kendra) from Lagna and she has resemblences like characteristics,

> > behavior, grasping abilities and such things very similar to me

and I

> > always remember my childhood when I interact with her. She also

has a

> > Neecha Bhanga raja yoga with Venus in Kanya, thus forming total

of 3

> > or 4 rajayogas in the 10th house (hers is Dhanur lagna). I am

waiting

> > to see her Budha maha dasha. She still has 7 yrs of Sa maha dasha

to

> > go. She is doing pretty well in Sa dasha also as Sa is in Moola

> > trikona.

> >

> > Therefore, I personally believe that considering Maha purusha yoga

> > from Moon Rasi is not necessarily wrong. Probably, that is what

the

> > experienced translators might have done. Just like any other

shloka

> > taken from classics and put to test, I believe considering

> > Mahapurusha yogas from Moon rasi gives us some clues, rather than

> > just sticking to the shlokas.

> >

> > Best regards,

> > Satya Sai Kolachina

> >

> >

> > , Chandrashekhar

> > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bharat,

> > >

> > > You are right Guru tatwa which flows through Lord Shiva will

> > express

> > > itself to the true seeker through any medium. I have always held

> > that

> > > Pt. Gopeshkumar's commentaries on classics are some of the best

> > that are

> > > available, as he was not dogmatic and always gave Pramana for

any

> > > argument that he presents. His commentary on Jataka Parijat is

also

> > one

> > > of the best such commentary. If you do not have it, do get it.

> > >

> > > Take care,

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

> > > > Namaskaar Sri Chandrashekharji

> > > >

> > > > Pt. Gopesh Kumar Ojha is most respectable to me despite the

few

> > errors. I

> > > > have not had the fortune of having a formal guru for

astrology.

> > Whatever

> > > > little I learnt was from books and discussions with whomsoever

> > had any

> > > > knowledge. "Phaldeepika" by Punditji, incidently, was the

first

> > book I

> > > > ever

> > > > read on hindu astrology. Just by its principles, I could

predict.

> > At that

> > > > time, I did not even know that Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra

> > existed.

> > > >

> > > > For me, Lord Shiva is the teacher for it is he who manifests

in

> > every

> > > > teacher and makes them so. I would never disregard to

disrespect

> > such a

> > > > teacher. I am glad you too hold him in high esteem.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > Bharat

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On 5/16/06, Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Bharat,

> > > > > That does happen with everyone. The key to the translation

is

> > the order

> > > > > of shlokas and what they cover. Gopeshkumar was a very

learned

> > person ad

> > > > > has brought many less known texts to light. When one is

doing

> > so much,

> > > > > one can sometime make a mistake. That does not detract from

his

> > > > > "Paanditya"

> > > > >

> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >

> > > > > Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

> > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Chandrashekharji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank you for the clarification. I suppose it turned out

to

> > be an

> > > > > > erroneous

> > > > > > translation of Sanskrit by Pt. Gopesh Kumar Ojha. He has

> > repeated the

> > > > > same

> > > > > > words in another translation - I think it is

Jatakalankaar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In any case, thank you for your email as it clarifies the

> > issue.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > > Bharat

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 5/16/06, Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Bharat,

> > > > > > > The Sanskrit shlokas appear in Gopeshkumarji's

translation

> > also. I

> > > > > think

> > > > > > > Gopeshkumar, whom I respect much, perhaps misinterpreted

> > the shloka.

> > > > > The

> > > > > > > shloka says "Lagnedorapi" (1st word shloka 4 Chapter 6)

> > meaning the

> > > > > > > Grahas should be in Kendra from Lagna and also should

be in

> > Kendra

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > Chandra. Had it been "Lagnedu vaa" or even "Lagnendu

vaapi"

> > it would

> > > > > > > indicate that the grahas should be in Kendra from lagna

> > or/and Moon.

> > > > > > > "Lagnedorapi"  appearing, is in context with earlier

shloka

> > 3 and

> > > > > would

> > > > > > > mean that when a Graha occupies Kendra in own or

exaltation

> > rasi,

> > > > > > > Chandra should also occupy another Kendra. This would

bring

> > the

> > > > graha

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > Kendra to both Lagna and Chandra. This is in line with

basic

> > > > > principles

> > > > > > > of astrology as Chandra would get strength from

occupying a

> > > > Kendra. It

> > > > > > > is said that strength of Chandra is the seed of

strength of

> > all

> > > > > grahas.

> > > > > > > So the graha will receive additional strength besides

> > strength

> > > > > obtained

> > > > > > > from occupation of own/exaltation rasi. It is when this

> > condition is

> > > > > > > satisfied that Mantreshwar says that the Jataka will

become

> > a King

> > > > > > > amongst Kings. This condition not being satisfied, he

says

> > that the

> > > > > > > person will be a commander of army for Ruchaka yoga, a

> > learned king

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > Bhadra yoga, beautiful and appreciated by the Sajjan

(good

> > > > people) and

> > > > > > > partaker of good food in Hamsa yoga,  valorous, strong,

> > learned and

> > > > > > > prosperous for Malavya yoga and powerful, leader of a

city

> > or a

> > > > king,

> > > > > > > praised by all but not having good behavior in fact and

so

> > on for

> > > > > Shasha

> > > > > > > yoga.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I trust this clarifies the matter.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

> > > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Chandrashekharji

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The phaldeepika I possess does not have Sanskrit

> > Translation,

> > > > just a

> > > > > > > > commentary of Pt. Gopesh Kumar Ojha in Hindi. Can you

> > guide me

> > > > to a

> > > > > > > > translation of Phaldeepika?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The reason I ask is, because Pt. Ojha on Page 111 on

his

> > > > translation

> > > > > > > > writes

> > > > > > > > this in hindi and I translate "That one must keep it

in

> > mind that

> > > > > > > > Mantreshawar Maharaj has said that if the 5 grahas

are in

> > the

> > > > Kendra

> > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > Moon in Swarashi or Uccharashi, then it is considered

as

> > similar

> > > > > > to yoga

> > > > > > > > from lagna".

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I wonder where and which sholka has Mantreshwar

Maharaj

> > said so.

> > > > > Till

> > > > > > > > date,

> > > > > > > > I have not used the usage of Mahapurusha Yogas from

Moon,

> > but

> > > > would

> > > > > > > > like to

> > > > > > > > find out if it has been said by the classical texts.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > > > > Bharat

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On 5/14/06, Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear David,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lagna and Moon in strength may not necessarily mean

> > that the

> > > > > > yogas are

> > > > > > > > > to be read from Moon. It would mean Moon with Paksha

> > bala and

> > > > > > Lagna in

> > > > > > > > > strength, the yoga causing graha being with strength

> > and not

> > > > > > blemished

> > > > > > > > > by association of other grahas, especially malefics.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > By the way, Phaladeepika does not say that the yogas

> > are to be

> > > > > seen

> > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > respect to Moon.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > David Andrews wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Sunil,

> > > > > > > > > >   I felt that you were wrong in stating that the

> > MahaPrush

> > > > Yoga

> > > > > > > could

> > > > > > > > > > originate either from the Lagna or the Moon.  I

was

> > under the

> > > > > > > > > > impression that it should originate from lagna.

> > Thanks for

> > > > > > insisting

> > > > > > > > > > that it could originate either from the Lagna or

the

> > Moon.

> > > > > > > > > >   I looked up my copy of Phala deepika translated

by

> > G. S.

> > > > > Kapoor.

> > > > > > > In

> > > > > > > > > > Chapter 6 (page 62) where we read:

> > > > > > > > > >   "These five yogas have been named as Pancha

> > Mahapurusha

> > > > Yogas.

> > > > > > > > > > Jataka Parijata has defined these Yogas as under:-

> > > > > > > > > >     According as Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus or

> > Saturn

> > > > > > possessing

> > > > > > > > > > the greatest strength and occupying a kendra is in

> > > > Moolatrikona,

> > > > > > > > > > Swakshetra or Swochcha, the resulting Rajayogas

will

> > be named

> > > > > > > Ruchaka,

> > > > > > > > > > Bhadra, Hamsa, Malavya and Sasa the beautiful."

> > > > > > > > > >    According to Saravali, "Venus, Mars, Saturn,

> > Jupiter and

> > > > > > Mercury

> > > > > > > > > > remaining in their respective own houses or

> > exaltation signs,

> > > > > > > > > > identical with kendra cause Malavya, Ruchuka,

Sasa,

> > Hamsa and

> > > > > > Bhadra

> > > > > > > > > > Yogas respectively."

> > > > > > > > > >    But it is imperative that Yogas will the

promised

> > effects

> > > > > only

> > > > > > > when

> > > > > > > > > > the Lagna or Moon and Yoga forming planets are

> > without

> > > > blemish.

> > > > > In

> > > > > > > > > > other words they are vested with strength and not

> > associated

> > > > > > with or

> > > > > > > > > > in conjuction with malefics, are not combust and

not

> > placed

> > > > > > between

> > > > > > > > > > malefics.

> > > > > > > > > >   The book contains charts of Stalin - with

planetary

> > > > formations

> > > > > > > > > > making up Ruchaka and Malavya yogas.

> > > > > > > > > >   Dr. Radha Krishnan  - Bhadra Yoga

> > > > > > > > > >   Motilal Nehru - Hamsa Yoga

> > > > > > > > > >   Jawarlal Nehru - Malavya Yoga

> > > > > > > > > >   Sardar Patel - Sasa and Ruchuka Yogas.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >   David

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Dear Satya,

It is unfortunate that you do not have Sanskrit fonts. Otherwise you

could have read the original Sanskrit shloka and agreed to the

translation given. If you read the transliterated portion in roman

script, you may be able to understand what is written in the shloka.

 

Not being conversant with Telugu, I will not be able to comment on the

translation of Mr. Kameshwara.

 

The topic was Maha Purusha yoga and whether classics say that the yoga

is also to be seen from Kendra from Chandra or not. My comments are

limited to that part only. What Jataka Parijata mentions is very clear.

 

As to whether grahas in Kendra from Chandra are of significance or not

is a different matter. Since One can look at a chart from the strongest

amongst Surya, Chandra and Lagna, and graha in Kendra from either of

them, and with strength, will act as Paraspara karaka for the respective

lagnas and help deliver results of that lagna to the fullest. Whether

the results would be similar to Mahapurusha yoga is a matter that is not

known. If we look at Amala yoga, I think its results indicates that they

would not be so as Amala yoga arises when a graha is placed in 10th

bhava from Chandra. Or look at the results of Gajkesari yoga which needs

Guru to be in Kendra from Chandra, the results differ from that of Hamsa

yoga. This is also one of the reasons that I think Mahapurusha yogas are

not to be applied from moon, but only from lagna.

 

Of course, this is my personal opinion and those more knowledgeable than

me could hold a different view, on the subject.

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

Satya Sai Kolachina wrote:

> Dear Sri Chandrasekhar,

>

> As I don't have the necessary Sanskrit font, I was unable to read the

> shloka properly. However, I checked in Jataka Parijatha again. It is

> the 59th Shloka in Chapter 7. So I believe we must be talking about

> the same shloka.

>

> I am referring to the Telugu translation by Sri Upadrashta Kameswara

> Rao published by Gollapudi Veeraswamy Publications, Rajahmundry. Most

> Telugu based astrologers consider this book as the authentic

> translation. The translator clearly mentioned that the Mahapurusha

> Yoga applies from Lagna as well as Chandra.

>

> I am reiterating what I wrote before. A planet in strength, in own or

> exalted house and in Kendra from Moon has its own significations,

> even though we don't necessarily call it a Maha purusha yoga. The

> results in such a case are similar to those that are mentioned with

> respect to the planet in kendra from Lagna. What I mean is that the

> translators must have experienced such results and hence must have

> included Chandra lagna also in their translations. That is why in

> some translations we may see such an interpretation, though not

> explicitly mentioned in the shloka.

>

> When I consider my exalted Budha in kendra from Moon akin to Bhadra

> Mahapurusha Yoga, I am referring not only to the maha dasha, but also

> to the physical charateristics and the special marks in the palm. A

> number of characteristics do match to me. I also do palmistry and

> therefore attempted to view these marks differentiating them other

> major and minor lines and their intersections on the palm. After I

> clearly observed these comparable features, it lead me to believe

> that the kendra position from Moon also might be sensible, as

> suggested by some translators.

>

> As it is happening with a number of shlokas picked from different

> classics (which are being researched by knowledged and experienced

> astrologers these days), I felt it may be sensible to interpret Maha

> purusha yoga from Moon lagna also even though the original author may

> not have mentioned explicitly so.

>

> I do agree that exalted Mercury gives good results in its dasha, but

> I strongly consider its kendra position from Moon has added

> additional strength to exalted Mercury.

>

> I hope I clarified my viewpoint, and welcome your opinion.

>

> Best regards,

> Satya Sai Kolachina

>

>

> , Chandrashekhar

> <chandrashekhar46> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Satya,

> >

> > I am unable to find the shloka you are mentioning in Jataka

> Parijata,

> > for Mahapurusha yoga. As far as I know, Jataka Parijata says at CH7

> > shloka 59:

> >

> > mUliÇkae[injtu¼g&haepyata ÉaEm}jIvistÉanusuta bilóa>,

> >

> > mülatrikoëanijatuìgagåhopayätä bhaumajïajévasitabhänusutä baliñöhäù|

> >

> > keNÔiSwta yid tda êcÉÔh<smalVycaêzzyaegkra ÉviNt.59.

> >

> > kendrasthitä yadi tadä rücabhadrahaàsamälavyacärüçaçayogakarä

> bhavanti||59||

> >

> > _When Mangal, Budha, Guru, Shukra or Shani occupy their

> Moolatrikona,

> > own or exaltation rasi in strength and should they be placed in a

> > Kendra, Ruchaka, Bhadra, Hamsa, Malavya and Shasha yogas occur._

> >

> > Are you referring to any other shloka? Is there any other edition

> of

> > jataka Parijata that gives any other shloka, that is with you?

> > I hope you are not referring to subsequent shlokas that give

> additional

> > results on account of even one of Dharmesha (9th lord), Labhesha

> (11th

> > lord) or Dhanesha (2nd lord) being in Kendra to Chandra, Guru being

> the

> > lord of Labha, for Ruchaka yoga jataka getting unlimited Kingdom.

> >

> > The shloka appears in Sanskrit 99 and ULW Palladio IT fonts in

> alternate

> > lines beginning with the first line.

> >

> > Awaiting your response.

> >

> > By the way, it is not only a Panch Mahapurusha yoga that gives good

> > results in the dasha of a graha. So only because you had good

> Mercury

> > dasha, by itself would not prove that when Mercury is in Kendra

> from

> > Moon would indicate that the yoga is Panch Mahapurusha yoga.

> Manasagari

> > says that if Sun or Moon join graha causing Mahapurusha yoga, the

> yoga

> > is broken. Saravali also says similar thing.

> >

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > Satya Sai Kolachina wrote:

> > > Dear Sri Chandrasekhar, Bharat and others,

> > >

> > > In Jataka Parijatham (Vaidyanatha Kritha), the author (or

> translator)

> > > expressed the view of seeing the Pancha Maha Purusha Yogas from

> Moon

> > > also. The author says, that the mahapurusha yoga occurs when any

> of

> > > these five (Mars, Merc, Jup, Venus, Saturn) planets is/are

> located in

> > > own house or exaltation, and in a kendra from either Lagna or

> Moon.

> > > He did not say Moon or Lagna whichever is strong. He clarly said

> > > either of them, which means he gave equal importance to Moon Rasi

> as

> > > of Lagna itself.

> > >

> > > I think different translators differ in the interpretations, and

> may

> > > be influenced by their own views/experiences.

> > >

> > > My opinion:

> > >

> > > I myself have exalted Mercury in a kendra from Moon (not from

> Lagna)

> > > and I believe my Mercury Maha dasha has been excellent and gave me

> > > unexpected rise in life. I am not a public figure but compared to

> > > where I was before and where I am, I see a change of very high

> > > magniture. I believe I have some of the characteristics of Bhadra

> > > Maha purusha yoga, though we may not accept it that way or call it

> > > that way. My opinion is, a planet in strength in kendra from Moon

> has

> > > its own significance, whether we call it a maha purusha yoga or

> not.

> > >

> > > I also have Sasa Maha Purusha Yoga from Lagna. Saturn maha dasha

> also

> > > gave me spectacular results (after extreme hardwork, because Sa in

> > > Kendra).

> > >

> > > If I compare the two Maha dashas, I may have to say that my Merc

> Maha

> > > dasha seems to be more superior in its results.

> > >

> > > Also one of my daughters has Bhadra maha purusha yoga with

> exalted in

> > > Mercury in 10th house along with Sun (with directional strength

> also

> > > forming Budha Aditya yoga in 10th house (with Sa in Moola Trikona

> not

> > > kendra) from Lagna and she has resemblences like characteristics,

> > > behavior, grasping abilities and such things very similar to me

> and I

> > > always remember my childhood when I interact with her. She also

> has a

> > > Neecha Bhanga raja yoga with Venus in Kanya, thus forming total

> of 3

> > > or 4 rajayogas in the 10th house (hers is Dhanur lagna). I am

> waiting

> > > to see her Budha maha dasha. She still has 7 yrs of Sa maha dasha

> to

> > > go. She is doing pretty well in Sa dasha also as Sa is in Moola

> > > trikona.

> > >

> > > Therefore, I personally believe that considering Maha purusha yoga

> > > from Moon Rasi is not necessarily wrong. Probably, that is what

> the

> > > experienced translators might have done. Just like any other

> shloka

> > > taken from classics and put to test, I believe considering

> > > Mahapurusha yogas from Moon rasi gives us some clues, rather than

> > > just sticking to the shlokas.

> > >

> > > Best regards,

> > > Satya Sai Kolachina

> > >

> > >

> > > , Chandrashekhar

> > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bharat,

> > > >

> > > > You are right Guru tatwa which flows through Lord Shiva will

> > > express

> > > > itself to the true seeker through any medium. I have always held

> > > that

> > > > Pt. Gopeshkumar's commentaries on classics are some of the best

> > > that are

> > > > available, as he was not dogmatic and always gave Pramana for

> any

> > > > argument that he presents. His commentary on Jataka Parijat is

> also

> > > one

> > > > of the best such commentary. If you do not have it, do get it.

> > > >

> > > > Take care,

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

> > > > Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

> > > > > Namaskaar Sri Chandrashekharji

> > > > >

> > > > > Pt. Gopesh Kumar Ojha is most respectable to me despite the

> few

> > > errors. I

> > > > > have not had the fortune of having a formal guru for

> astrology.

> > > Whatever

> > > > > little I learnt was from books and discussions with whomsoever

> > > had any

> > > > > knowledge. "Phaldeepika" by Punditji, incidently, was the

> first

> > > book I

> > > > > ever

> > > > > read on hindu astrology. Just by its principles, I could

> predict.

> > > At that

> > > > > time, I did not even know that Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra

> > > existed.

> > > > >

> > > > > For me, Lord Shiva is the teacher for it is he who manifests

> in

> > > every

> > > > > teacher and makes them so. I would never disregard to

> disrespect

> > > such a

> > > > > teacher. I am glad you too hold him in high esteem..

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > Bharat

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On 5/16/06, Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bharat,

> > > > > > That does happen with everyone. The key to the translation

> is

> > > the order

> > > > > > of shlokas and what they cover. Gopeshkumar was a very

> learned

> > > person ad

> > > > > > has brought many less known texts to light. When one is

> doing

> > > so much,

> > > > > > one can sometime make a mistake. That does not detract from

> his

> > > > > > "Paanditya"

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

> > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Chandrashekharji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thank you for the clarification. I suppose it turned out

> to

> > > be an

> > > > > > > erroneous

> > > > > > > translation of Sanskrit by Pt. Gopesh Kumar Ojha. He has

> > > repeated the

> > > > > > same

> > > > > > > words in another translation - I think it is

> Jatakalankaar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In any case, thank you for your email as it clarifies the

> > > issue.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > > > Bharat

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 5/16/06, Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Bharat,

> > > > > > > > The Sanskrit shlokas appear in Gopeshkumarji's

> translation

> > > also. I

> > > > > > think

> > > > > > > > Gopeshkumar, whom I respect much, perhaps misinterpreted

> > > the shloka.

> > > > > > The

> > > > > > > > shloka says "Lagnedorapi" (1st word shloka 4 Chapter 6)

> > > meaning the

> > > > > > > > Grahas should be in Kendra from Lagna and also should

> be in

> > > Kendra

> > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > Chandra. Had it been "Lagnedu vaa" or even "Lagnendu

> vaapi"

> > > it would

> > > > > > > > indicate that the grahas should be in Kendra from lagna

> > > or/and Moon.

> > > > > > > > "Lagnedorapi"  appearing, is in context with earlier

> shloka

> > > 3 and

> > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > mean that when a Graha occupies Kendra in own or

> exaltation

> > > rasi,

> > > > > > > > Chandra should also occupy another Kendra. This would

> bring

> > > the

> > > > > graha

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > Kendra to both Lagna and Chandra. This is in line with

> basic

> > > > > > principles

> > > > > > > > of astrology as Chandra would get strength from

> occupying a

> > > > > Kendra. It

> > > > > > > > is said that strength of Chandra is the seed of

> strength of

> > > all

> > > > > > grahas.

> > > > > > > > So the graha will receive additional strength besides

> > > strength

> > > > > > obtained

> > > > > > > > from occupation of own/exaltation rasi. It is when this

> > > condition is

> > > > > > > > satisfied that Mantreshwar says that the Jataka will

> become

> > > a King

> > > > > > > > amongst Kings. This condition not being satisfied, he

> says

> > > that the

> > > > > > > > person will be a commander of army for Ruchaka yoga, a

> > > learned king

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > Bhadra yoga, beautiful and appreciated by the Sajjan

> (good

> > > > > people) and

> > > > > > > > partaker of good food in Hamsa yoga,  valorous, strong,

> > > learned and

> > > > > > > > prosperous for Malavya yoga and powerful, leader of a

> city

> > > or a

> > > > > king,

> > > > > > > > praised by all but not having good behavior in fact and

> so

> > > on for

> > > > > > Shasha

> > > > > > > > yoga.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I trust this clarifies the matter.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Chandrashekharji

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The phaldeepika I possess does not have Sanskrit

> > > Translation,

> > > > > just a

> > > > > > > > > commentary of Pt. Gopesh Kumar Ojha in Hindi. Can you

> > > guide me

> > > > > to a

> > > > > > > > > translation of Phaldeepika?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The reason I ask is, because Pt. Ojha on Page 111 on

> his

> > > > > translation

> > > > > > > > > writes

> > > > > > > > > this in hindi and I translate "That one must keep it

> in

> > > mind that

> > > > > > > > > Mantreshawar Maharaj has said that if the 5 grahas

> are in

> > > the

> > > > > Kendra

> > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > Moon in Swarashi or Uccharashi, then it is considered

> as

> > > similar

> > > > > > > to yoga

> > > > > > > > > from lagna".

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I wonder where and which sholka has Mantreshwar

> Maharaj

> > > said so.

> > > > > > Till

> > > > > > > > > date,

> > > > > > > > > I have not used the usage of Mahapurusha Yogas from

> Moon,

> > > but

> > > > > would

> > > > > > > > > like to

> > > > > > > > > find out if it has been said by the classical texts.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > > > > > Bharat

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > On 5/14/06, Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear David,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lagna and Moon in strength may not necessarily mean

> > > that the

> > > > > > > yogas are

> > > > > > > > > > to be read from Moon. It would mean Moon with Paksha

> > > bala and

> > > > > > > Lagna in

> > > > > > > > > > strength, the yoga causing graha being with strength

> > > and not

> > > > > > > blemished

> > > > > > > > > > by association of other grahas, especially malefics.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > By the way, Phaladeepika does not say that the yogas

> > > are to be

> > > > > > seen

> > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > respect to Moon.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > David Andrews wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Sunil,

> > > > > > > > > > >   I felt that you were wrong in stating that the

> > > MahaPrush

> > > > > Yoga

> > > > > > > > could

> > > > > > > > > > > originate either from the Lagna or the Moon.  I

> was

> > > under the

> > > > > > > > > > > impression that it should originate from lagna.

> > > Thanks for

> > > > > > > insisting

> > > > > > > > > > > that it could originate either from the Lagna or

> the

> > > Moon.

> > > > > > > > > > >   I looked up my copy of Phala deepika translated

> by

> > > G. S.

> > > > > > Kapoor.

> > > > > > > > In

> > > > > > > > > > > Chapter 6 (page 62) where we read:

> > > > > > > > > > >   "These five yogas have been named as Pancha

> > > Mahapurusha

> > > > > Yogas.

> > > > > > > > > > > Jataka Parijata has defined these Yogas as under:-

> > > > > > > > > > >     According as Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus or

> > > Saturn

> > > > > > > possessing

> > > > > > > > > > > the greatest strength and occupying a kendra is in

> > > > > Moolatrikona,

> > > > > > > > > > > Swakshetra or Swochcha, the resulting Rajayogas

> will

> > > be named

> > > > > > > > Ruchaka,

> > > > > > > > > > > Bhadra, Hamsa, Malavya and Sasa the beautiful."

> > > > > > > > > > >    According to Saravali, "Venus, Mars, Saturn,

> > > Jupiter and

> > > > > > > Mercury

> > > > > > > > > > > remaining in their respective own houses or

> > > exaltation signs,

> > > > > > > > > > > identical with kendra cause Malavya, Ruchuka,

> Sasa,

> > > Hamsa and

> > > > > > > Bhadra

> > > > > > > > > > > Yogas respectively."

> > > > > > > > > > >    But it is imperative that Yogas will the

> promised

> > > effects

> > > > > > only

> > > > > > > > when

> > > > > > > > > > > the Lagna or Moon and Yoga forming planets are

> > > without

> > > > > blemish.

> > > > > > In

> > > > > > > > > > > other words they are vested with strength and not

> > > associated

> > > > > > > with or

> > > > > > > > > > > in conjuction with malefics, are not combust and

> not

> > > placed

> > > > > > > between

> > > > > > > > > > > malefics.

> > > > > > > > > > >   The book contains charts of Stalin - with

> planetary

> > > > > formations

> > > > > > > > > > > making up Ruchaka and Malavya yogas.

> > > > > > > > > > >   Dr. Radha Krishnan  - Bhadra Yoga

> > > > > > > > > > >   Motilal Nehru - Hamsa Yoga

> > > > > > > > > > >   Jawarlal Nehru - Malavya Yoga

> > > > > > > > > > >   Sardar Patel - Sasa and Ruchuka Yogas.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >   David

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