Jayadvaita's explanation

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On 06 Apr 1999, Jatukarnya das wrote:

 

> Blasphemy? How glorious you are, fighting in your great mission against the

> blasphemers!

 

I just KNOW that this case is blasphemy.

 

> Maybe you should ask Jayadvaita Swami whether he wants you to continue

> representing him? ...

 

Everyone should try to stop blasphemy when he KNOWs it's blasphemy. You don't

have to be a pure devotee to do that (as some others are thinking). I would

have responded whether it was Jayadvaita's editing or anyone else's.

 

Take care,

 

Virender

http://www.krishnasoft.com

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On 05 Apr 1999, Madhava Gosh wrote:

 

> Although no systematic study of PDS has yet been published, the

> potential for such a study is great, and the supply of subjects

> abundant, and ever renewing. Although the faces change, the PDS seems

> to be here to say.

>

 

Speculation.

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On 06 Apr 1999, Virender Dayal wrote:

 

>

> Speculation.

>

It's actually termed: PSD = Pure Speculation Disease and it's spreading fast.

 

ys,

 

Virender

http://www.krishnasoft.com

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I suggested to Janesvara Prabhu that his views were perhaps too radically

inflexible and he might do better to more readily accommodate necessary

POSTHUMOUS changes to the Bhagavad-gita if that will provide us with a more

authentic and accurate version of Prabhupada's ideas. Virender has supplied

convincing evidence from Folio (at least on one point) that Prabhupada indeed

was amenable if not adamant about making certain changes. There were many

other boo-boos which he was not (specifically) aware of that also begged

modification.

 

4/21/76:

Prabhupada: Ah, krsi-go-raksya. IMMEDIATELY INFORM THEM.

Puspa Krsna: Okay. I noticed that also. I thought it was strange, some time

back. (break)

Prabhupada: Hayagriva edited. He thought, "cattle-raising." Not

"cattle-raising," but the word.... There.... IT IS MISTRANSLATION. It is

go-raksya, "giving protection to the cows." Especially mentioned, go-raksya,

not otherwise. The animal-eaters may take other animals, but not cow.

 

On the other hand, I think that Jayadwaita Swami went beyond the call of his

duty to make excessive changes, far beyond what most of us would call

"necessary" or even clearly "improved."

 

Overall, I would propose that everyone exercise some equanimity in this

discussion. Otherwise, no one will want to become a part of whatever society

you belong to - varnasrama or what have you. In fact, if this dialogue is any

indication of what is to come, then I submit that varnasrama will remain in

the far distant future until we can learn to be civil with one another and

honor opposing views. Otherwise, at this rate, the so-called VAD advocates

will do more to scare people away than push it forward.

 

And one more note for our friend Virender, who wrote:

> It is like talking to a wall.

 

I think there are a number of *walls* blocking this discussion from becoming a

genuine dialogue.

 

Let's stop a moment to consider whether our own shouting is so loud that we

can't hear what anybody else has to say.

 

Sincerely,

Srila dasa

 

---------------

Jayapur, 20 January, 1972

My Dear Mandali Bhadra,

All other translations in German language by other translators must be checked

by you, edited, and corrected very strictly for grammar and proper use of

German language. IT IS NOT OUR PHILOSOPHY TO PRINT ERRORS. Of course, our

spiritual subject matter is transcendental and therefore it remains potent

despite mistakes in grammar, spelling, etc. BUT THIS TYPE OF TRANSLATION MAY

ONLY BE ALLOWED IF THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO CORRECT IT, then it is all right.

BUT IF YOU KNOW THE CORRECT ORDER, THEN YOU MUST MAKE IT PERFECT. That is our

philosophy: everything perfect for Krishna.

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On 06 Apr 1999, Virender Dayal wrote:

 

> On 05 Apr 1999, Madhava Gosh wrote:

>

> > Although no systematic study of PDS has yet been published, the

> > potential for such a study is great, and the supply of subjects

> > abundant, and ever renewing. Although the faces change, the PDS seems

to be here to say.

> >

>

> Speculation.

>

>

 

 

 

Being that I'm a pure devotee and me and Krsna are on the same page and all,

and being that I'm not groovin on what you've got to say--well then, it just

all adds up.

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> On 06 Apr 1999, Virender Dayal wrote:

>

> >

> > Speculation.

> >

> >

 

 

>

>

>

> Being that I'm a pure devotee and me and Krsna are on the same page and all,

and being that I'm not groovin on what you've got to say--well then, it just

all adds up.

>

 

 

 

 

I just wanted to make clear that I was only play acting out an alleged pds

tendency. I normally don't do that in public.

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WW

 

> >

> > Being that I'm a pure devotee and me and Krsna are on the same page

> and all,

> and being that I'm not groovin on what you've got to say--well then,

> it just

> all adds up.

> >

>

> I just wanted to make clear that I was only play acting out an alleged

> pds

> tendency. I normally don't do that in public.

 

I caught the irony. I have personally gotten in trouble numerous times

when what I thought was an obvious irony was taken literally by

someone. Never hurts to clarify.

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On 05 Apr 1999, Virender Dayal wrote:

 

>

> Service of stopping blasphemy of Srila Prabhupada's Gita AS IT IS.

>

>

 

How about calling it:

 

Virendra Dayal's Approved Revised Edition of Srila Prabhupada's Gita AS IT IS?

 

I mean with the blessings of today's Virendras and the GBC circa 1984 it has

got to be the real thing--I'm convinced!

 

Now if it were only this easy figuring out Srila Prabhupada's vision for

varnasrama-dharma. Maybe Virendra would like to write (or edit) a book about

it. We could call it: VD by VD.

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>

>

> Now if it were only this easy figuring out Srila Prabhupada's vision for

> varnasrama-dharma. Maybe Virendra would like to write (or edit) a book about

> it. We could call it: VD by VD.

 

Ooooh! LOL. I hope poor Virendra doesn't get too wounded by all this. Dear

Virendra, believe it or not, we really do care about you.

 

Jus t be sure that that is VeDic VD by VD.