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On Wednesday, March 31, 2004, at 05:07 pm, Sanjay Dadlani wrote:

 

> Some "critics" say that Krsna was "shot" in His foot to pay for the

> karma that

> He acquired when killing Vali (as Lord Rama) by devious means. Of

> course this

> theory holds no sense because in Gita Krsna declares He is free from

> karma. But

> it is an interesting theory anyway.

 

Couldn't we argue that Krsna "accepts" karma and other such rules in

order to perform his ineffable lila, and for the pleasure of his

devotees?

 

Ys., Rama Kesava

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On 26.04.2004 19:00 Uhr, "Mahat-tattva (das)" <Mahat-tattva (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

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> Why is the marriage without children considered abominable?

 

 

As far as my understanding goes it is the duty of the man to give the wife a

child. Otherwise he is not merciful and will go to hell. But I have no quote

from sastra.

 

Ys Navanitacora das

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On Monday, April 26, 2004, at 06:18 pm, Mahat-tattva (das) wrote:

 

> Why is the marriage without children considered abominable?

 

Why do you consider it so? What about those who marry and then find

they cannot have children?

 

As far the something can support Krsna Consciousness is must be

utilised, therefore a grhastha situation without children cannot always

be considered abonimable.

 

Ys., Rama Kesava dasa

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Hari Bol

My recent talk with a devotee mataji (my counsellor) was very interesting.

She explained that since the time she has had a child she is been slowly

developing feelings of selfless giving. Because child means you have to

give things selflessly. A woman who does not have child can never

understand the bliss of giving things selflessly and hence there is a

likelyhood that she develops a hoarding mentality.

My own mother is my step mother and does not have a child of her own. I

can clearly see from her behaviour that mataji's statement is true.

However there are many devotees whom i know have resolved not to have a

child and their Grihastha Ashram is also glorious.

However it is recommended that every Grihastha should have a child and

should undero the responsibilities to get thoroughly purified in that

ashram.

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"Mahat-tattva (das)" <Mahat-tattva (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

27-04-2004 07:54 PM

 

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> On 26.04.2004 19:00 Uhr, "Mahat-tattva (das)" <Mahat-tattva (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

> wrote:

>

> > Why is the marriage without children considered abominable?

>

>

> As far as my understanding goes it is the duty of the man to give the

wife

> a child. Otherwise he is not merciful and will go to hell. But I have no

> quote from sastra.

 

Before I joined devotees I had a friend. She had a sister who was a

doctor.

She told her that women in general need to have babies. Otherwise they are

very likely to mentally suffer so much that they experience physical pain.

For such women there is a high risk of developing cancer.

 

Now if we could get a sastric statement to support this.....otherwise it

won't fly.

 

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What does this have to do with developing varansrama in ISKCON? Excuse me if

this is a stupid question (actually stupid questions are my forte) but I am

new to this conference and likely do not know the context of this text.

 

Vyapaka dasa

 

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"Shyamasundara (das) ACBSP (Vedic Astrologer) (USA)"

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"Basu Ghosh (das) ACBSP (Baroda - IN)" <Basu.Ghosh.ACBSP (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

Cc: "Sastric (Discussion of) Varnasrama" <Sastric.Varnasrama (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

Sunday, July 04, 2004 6:50 PM

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> INTERNATIONAL MARRIAGE BROKER REGULATION ACT good first step in limiting

> American mens' access to non-feminist foreign women.

>

>

>

> http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2004/7/emw138739.htm

>

>

> (PRWEB) July 4, 2004 -- The International Marriage Broker Regulation Act

> goes beyond protecting foreign women: it reinforces the Western gender

> equality paradigm and facilitates the passage of similar future laws. We

> support the strategy of using "womens' protection" to gain bipartisan

> support for a law partially intent on eliminating foreign matchmaking

> websites. These websites promulgate the "message" that American men are

> highly desirable outside the U.S. and can have access to women not intent

on

> upholding over 30 years of hard won womens' rights. We also support the

> strategy of placing "warning labels" on American men as this will decrease

> demand for them among foreign women over time.

>

> Although this law is long overdue (and hopefully not too late), we welcome

> the Marriage Broker Regulation Act of 2003 as a means to regulating the

> often arrogant and brazen international marriage broker industry. This

> industry has gone from the fringe to the mainstream. The American male

> population is now overly exposed to the message that it is acceptable to

> desire and actually marry women "unspoiled" by American materialism and

most

> troubling, "uninfected" by American feminism. This message may impede the

> progress of feminism here at home and give American men the idea that it

is

> acceptable to not respect feminist principles that took so long to instill

> upon them.

>

> Although marriage to foreign women may alleviate the current marriage

strike

> (www.ifeminists.net/introduction/editorials/2003/0812.html), it is no

excuse

> to allow the IMB industry to continue "business as usual."

>

> Certainly, the existence of this industry is indicative of the sad state

of

> romantic relationships between men and women in North America; however, it

> by no means should be allowed to continue unregulated. Sites such as

> www.americanwomensuck.com and www.nomarriage.com are problematic enough.

>

> # # #

>

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Lord Narasimha Slays Hiranyakasipu

 

 

"The demigods, finding no other recourse, surrendered again to the Supreme

Personality of Godhead, Visnu, who then appeared and counteracted all the

illusions presented by the jugglery of the demons. Heroes among the demons such

as

Kalanemi, Mali, Sumali and Malyavan fought the Supreme Personality of Godhead

and were all killed by the Lord. The demigods were thus freed from all

dangers."

Srimad-Bhagavatam 8:10 Summary

 

"Let me therefore offer my respectful obeisances unto the incarnation of

fish, who appeared in devastation, although Your Lordship is the cause of all

causes. Let me offer my respectful obeisances unto the Hayagriva incarnation,

who

killed the two demons Madhu and Kaitabha; let me offer my respectful

obeisances unto You, who appeared as the gigantic tortoise that held up the

great

mountain Mandara and who appeared as the boar that rescued the earth planet

which

had fallen into the water of the Garbhodaka. Let me offer my respectful

obeisances unto Your Lordship, who appeared as Nrsimhadeva, who delivered all

kinds

of devotees from the fearful condition of atheistic atrocities. Let me offer my

 

respectful obeisances unto You, who appeared as Vamanadeva and covered the

three worlds simply by expanding Your lotus feet. Let me offer my respectful

obeisances unto You who appeared as the Lord of the Bhrgus in order to kill all

 

the infidel administrators of the world. And let me offer my respectful

obeisances unto You who appeared as Lord Rama to kill demons like Ravana. You

are

worshiped by all devotees as the chief of the Raghu dynasty, Lord Ramacandra.

Let

me offer my respectful obeisances unto You, who appear as Lord Vasudeva, Lord

Sankarsana, Lord Pradyumna and Lord Aniruddha. Let me offer my respectful

obeisances unto You, who appear as Lord Buddha to bewilder the atheistic and

demoniac. And let me offer my respectful obeisances unto You who appear as

Kalki

to chastise the so-called royal order degraded to the abominable condition of

the mlecchas, who are below the jurisdiction of Vedic regulative principles."

Krsna Book, Chapter 40

Bhaktivedanta Book Trust. Excerpted from texts and purports of HDG A.C.

Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada.

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