Gentlemen (and ladies)!

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At 12:10 PM -0400 4/10/99, WWW: Sthita-dhi-muni (Dasa) SDG (Alachua FL -

USA) wrote:

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>If I wasn't certain whether I was a gentleman or a lady, I might feel that the

>heading "Gentleman (and ladies)!" was offensive, or at least discriminating.

>

 

Well, if you want to cover all your bases, there's always the term "hijra"

which means neither ... nor.

 

Ys,

Madhusudani dasi

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> At 12:10 PM -0400 4/10/99, WWW: Sthita-dhi-muni (Dasa) SDG (Alachua FL -

> USA) wrote:

> >[Text 2223544 from COM]

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> >If I wasn't certain whether I was a gentleman or a lady, I might feel

> >that the heading "Gentleman (and ladies)!" was offensive, or at least

> >discriminating.

> >

>

> Well, if you want to cover all your bases, there's always the term "hijra"

> which means neither ... nor.

>

> Ys,

> Madhusudani dasi

 

In India a Hijra is a male eunuch, who dresses in Sari etc. Just before I

left India there was a lot of problem with Hijra's forming gangs and

terrorising people.

 

Dodgy types nowadays.

 

YS Samba das

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>> Well, if you want to cover all your bases, there's always the term "hijra"

>> which means neither ... nor.

>>

>> Ys,

>> Madhusudani dasi

>

>In India a Hijra is a male eunuch, who dresses in Sari etc.

 

The term "hijras" is used to denote a rather heterogenous group of men,

from uncastrated transvestites, to castrated men, transexuals,

hermaphrodites and pseudo-hermaphrodites. Some support themselves by

singing and dancing, others by prostitution or other activities (both legal

and illegal). It's a complex culture that has received a great deal of

study. I've interviewed several hijras for one of our research projects and

woulde be glad to recommend literature if you are interested in learning

more. However, my original comment above was simply a suggestion for a

term one could use if you needed to describe a third gender, that is

referred to even in sastra.

 

Ys,

Madhusudani dasi

[Guest guest]

Whatever happened to good old "prabhu"?

 

ys

 

hkdd

 

"COM: Madhusudani Radha (dd) JPS (Mill Valley - USA)" wrote:

 

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> >> Well, if you want to cover all your bases, there's always the term "hijra"

> >> which means neither ... nor.

> >>

> >> Ys,

> >> Madhusudani dasi

> >

> >In India a Hijra is a male eunuch, who dresses in Sari etc.

>

> The term "hijras" is used to denote a rather heterogenous group of men,

> from uncastrated transvestites, to castrated men, transexuals,

> hermaphrodites and pseudo-hermaphrodites. Some support themselves by

> singing and dancing, others by prostitution or other activities (both legal

> and illegal). It's a complex culture that has received a great deal of

> study. I've interviewed several hijras for one of our research projects and

> woulde be glad to recommend literature if you are interested in learning

> more. However, my original comment above was simply a suggestion for a

> term one could use if you needed to describe a third gender, that is

> referred to even in sastra.

>

> Ys,

> Madhusudani dasi

[Guest guest]

Whatever happened to good old "prabhu"?

 

ys

 

hkdd

 

"COM: Madhusudani Radha (dd) JPS (Mill Valley - USA)" wrote:

 

> [Text 2224558 from COM]

>

> >> Well, if you want to cover all your bases, there's always the term "hijra"

> >> which means neither ... nor.

> >>

> >> Ys,

> >> Madhusudani dasi

> >

> >In India a Hijra is a male eunuch, who dresses in Sari etc.

>

> The term "hijras" is used to denote a rather heterogenous group of men,

> from uncastrated transvestites, to castrated men, transexuals,

> hermaphrodites and pseudo-hermaphrodites. Some support themselves by

> singing and dancing, others by prostitution or other activities (both legal

> and illegal). It's a complex culture that has received a great deal of

> study. I've interviewed several hijras for one of our research projects and

> woulde be glad to recommend literature if you are interested in learning

> more. However, my original comment above was simply a suggestion for a

> term one could use if you needed to describe a third gender, that is

> referred to even in sastra.

>

> Ys,

> Madhusudani dasi

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At 6:12 -0800 4/12/99, COM: Hare Krsna dasi (Brunswick, Maine - USA) wrote:

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>Whatever happened to good old "prabhu"?

 

......and the fact that we're supposed to see *everyone* as our "prabhu"?

That would include all genders.

 

Ys,

Madhusudani

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At 6:12 -0800 4/12/99, COM: Hare Krsna dasi (Brunswick, Maine - USA) wrote:

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>Whatever happened to good old "prabhu"?

 

......and the fact that we're supposed to see *everyone* as our "prabhu"?

That would include all genders.

 

Ys,

Madhusudani

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> >

> >Whatever happened to good old "prabhu"?

 

>

> .....and the fact that we're supposed to see *everyone* as our "prabhu"?

That would include all genders.

>

>

 

 

 

Not wanting to create controversy, but, what do we call earthworms? I heard

they are naturally both male and female in the same body.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> >

> >Whatever happened to good old "prabhu"?

 

>

> .....and the fact that we're supposed to see *everyone* as our "prabhu"?

That would include all genders.

>

>

 

 

 

Not wanting to create controversy, but, what do we call earthworms? I heard

they are naturally both male and female in the same body.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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"COM: Madhusudani Radha (dd) JPS (Mill Valley - USA)" wrote:

 

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> At 6:12 -0800 4/12/99, COM: Hare Krsna dasi (Brunswick, Maine - USA) wrote:

> >[Text 2227935 from COM]

> >

> >Whatever happened to good old "prabhu"?

>

> .....and the fact that we're supposed to see *everyone* as our "prabhu"?

> That would include all genders.

>

> Ys,

> Madhusudani

 

Perfect! In that case, I hope that Prsni prabhu will assist us by continuing

to act as our able moderator.

 

your servant,

 

Hare Krsna dasi

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"COM: Madhusudani Radha (dd) JPS (Mill Valley - USA)" wrote:

 

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> At 6:12 -0800 4/12/99, COM: Hare Krsna dasi (Brunswick, Maine - USA) wrote:

> >[Text 2227935 from COM]

> >

> >Whatever happened to good old "prabhu"?

>

> .....and the fact that we're supposed to see *everyone* as our "prabhu"?

> That would include all genders.

>

> Ys,

> Madhusudani

 

Perfect! In that case, I hope that Prsni prabhu will assist us by continuing

to act as our able moderator.

 

your servant,

 

Hare Krsna dasi

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"WWW: Sthita-dhi-muni (Dasa) SDG (Alachua FL - USA)" wrote:

 

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> > >

> > >Whatever happened to good old "prabhu"?

>

> >

> > .....and the fact that we're supposed to see *everyone* as our "prabhu"?

> That would include all genders.

> >

> >

>

> Not wanting to create controversy, but, what do we call earthworms? I heard

> they are naturally both male and female in the same body.

 

Well, actually, Balabhadra prabhu, our Minister of Cow Protection and

Agriculture, is the expert on this, but please excuse me if I answer according

to what I have heard from him. If you are talking about the same Bhakt

Earthworm who converts cow manure into nutritious soil so that Bhakta Tomato

Plant can produce tomatoes to make chutney to offer to Sri Sri Radha Damodara

on the altar, then I think you must be talking about our dear friend -- Wormy

Prabhu. Is that the Bhakta Earthworm you are referring to?

 

your servant,

 

Hare Krsna dasi

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On 13 Apr 1999, Hare Krsna dasi wrote:

> Perfect! In that case, I hope that Prsni prabhu will assist us by

continuing

> to act as our able moderator.

 

Haribol! Although I definitely consider some of his actions

undesirable, I too agree that nothing should prevent Prsnigarbha

prabhu from staying on as moderator. A moderator is supposed

to facilitate, and I don't see how his personal choices affect

that. I have not seen him acting like an absolute authority

over the group, so there should be no difficulty in remaining

on as moderator.

 

Yours,

 

Vijay

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"WWW: Sthita-dhi-muni (Dasa) SDG (Alachua FL - USA)" wrote:

 

> [Text 2231086 from COM]

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> > >

> > >Whatever happened to good old "prabhu"?

>

> >

> > .....and the fact that we're supposed to see *everyone* as our "prabhu"?

> That would include all genders.

> >

> >

>

> Not wanting to create controversy, but, what do we call earthworms? I heard

> they are naturally both male and female in the same body.

 

Well, actually, Balabhadra prabhu, our Minister of Cow Protection and

Agriculture, is the expert on this, but please excuse me if I answer according

to what I have heard from him. If you are talking about the same Bhakt

Earthworm who converts cow manure into nutritious soil so that Bhakta Tomato

Plant can produce tomatoes to make chutney to offer to Sri Sri Radha Damodara

on the altar, then I think you must be talking about our dear friend -- Wormy

Prabhu. Is that the Bhakta Earthworm you are referring to?

 

your servant,

 

Hare Krsna dasi

[Guest guest]

>Not wanting to create controversy, but, what do we call earthworms?

 

Earthworms.

[Guest guest]

>Not wanting to create controversy, but, what do we call earthworms?

 

Earthworms.

[Guest guest]

then I think you must be talking about our dear friend -- Wormy

> Prabhu. Is that the Bhakta Earthworm you are referring to?

>

> your servant,

>

> Hare Krsna dasi

>

>

 

I hope Bhakta Wormy is able to follow all the regs living in constant

association of the other maya gender. Boy, no matter how down to earth you

get, spiritual life remains a challenge.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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then I think you must be talking about our dear friend -- Wormy

> Prabhu. Is that the Bhakta Earthworm you are referring to?

>

> your servant,

>

> Hare Krsna dasi

>

>

 

I hope Bhakta Wormy is able to follow all the regs living in constant

association of the other maya gender. Boy, no matter how down to earth you

get, spiritual life remains a challenge.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 13 Apr 1999, Madhusudani Radha wrote:

 

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> >Not wanting to create controversy, but, what do we call earthworms?

>

> Earthworms.

>

>

 

 

Is that something you read in MacMillian, or the newer BBT edition of the

Gita?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 13 Apr 1999, Madhusudani Radha wrote:

 

>

> >Not wanting to create controversy, but, what do we call earthworms?

>

> Earthworms.

>

>

 

 

Is that something you read in MacMillian, or the newer BBT edition of the

Gita?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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>

> >Not wanting to create controversy, but, what do we call earthworms?

>

> Earthworms.

 

To the point and concise, thank you!

[Guest guest]

>

> >Not wanting to create controversy, but, what do we call earthworms?

>

> Earthworms.

 

To the point and concise, thank you!

[Guest guest]

PAMHO

 

> Haribol! Although I definitely consider some of his actions

> undesirable

 

This was a very interesting statement. Not that I want to "pick a fight"

but,

that someone that I don't know, don't know me, and certainly know nothing

about my actions, should comment on them as "undesirable" is certainly

amazing. But you make me curious, what particular action, that I supposedly

have made, is undesirable?

 

ys Prisni dasi

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PAMHO

 

> Haribol! Although I definitely consider some of his actions

> undesirable

 

This was a very interesting statement. Not that I want to "pick a fight"

but,

that someone that I don't know, don't know me, and certainly know nothing

about my actions, should comment on them as "undesirable" is certainly

amazing. But you make me curious, what particular action, that I supposedly

have made, is undesirable?

 

ys Prisni dasi