Guest guest Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Dear Shri. Sunil: What your Guru has taught is about the most severe case of Mars Dosha, i.e., conditions in which the Mars dosha will directly affect the longevity of the spouse. The other positions are indicative of undesirable characteristics or lack of adjustment that may mar marital felicity. That is why he may not have insisted on the other positions. There is a general consensus among south-indian astrologers that Mars dosha occurs if Mars is in the 2nd, 4th, 7th, 8th, and 12th houses from Lagna or Moon. The relevant slokha is: "DHANA VYAYECHA PATHALE JAMITRE CHASTHTAME KUJA STRINAAM BHARTHRU VINAASAMCHA BHARTHUNAAM STRIVINAASANAM" It appears in more than one classic including Naradeeyam- the treatise on Astrology ascribed to Shri Narada. The logic of Mars dosha is simple,..... 2nd house is the bhava for family, 4th for character of a female, 7th for spouse, 8th for mangalya, and 12th for bed pleasures. Mars is a planet of strife and domination, and the presence of such a malefic in such vital bhavas was believed to affect marital felicity. Even Mars in the 5th house is bad for progenic matters in that the delivery may be difficult or surgically assisted. But, it is not considered as Mars dosha. Ofcourse, there are exceptions to the points I have mentioned above. Again, there is NO REFERENCE TO MARS DOSHA in classsics like BPHS or Brihat Jatakam. But, unfortunately too much importance to this aspect without taking into account the exceptions has been a bug bear for many otherwise good horoscopes. Blessed be. vedic astrology, "divinity_sun" <divinity_sun> wrote: > > Respected Dakshinamoorthi ji > > I have learnt from my Guru that Manglik Dosha occurs only if the > mars is in the 7th or the 8th house from lagna or moon in case of > girls and in the 7th house from lagna or moon in case of boys. > > Even here the effect of Manglik Dosha is reduced when Mars is in its > own house or debilitated. Mars in any other position from Moon / > Lagna does not constitute Manglik Dosha. Can you please clarify. > > Regards > > Sunil V > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > > > Dear Ms. Indiangirl: > > > > Nowhere in the classics is the concept of "double mangalik > dosha" > > mentioned! And what is more important..... in your horoscope, the > > following factors have led to the cancellation of the mangalik > dosha: > > > > 1) Conjuntion of Mars with Moon has cancelled the dosha. > > > > 2) The lord of the sign in which Mars is placed (in this case it > is > > the Moon in own house) is in the 1,4, 7, 5, 9, 10 houses from the > > lagna. (In your horoscope, Moon is in the 4th house). > > > > What is more, this combination of Moon and Mars has given rise to > two > > other yogas: > > > > 1) Neecha Bhanga raja yoga due to the cancellation of > debilitation to > > Mars by Moon. > > > > 2) Chandra Mangala Yoga due to combination of Moon and Mars. > > > > These yogas infact will bless you with acquisition of landed > > properties or houses. > > > > Kindly throw away all fears of mangalik dosha from your mind. > > > > Blessed be. > > vedic astrology, "indiangirl164" > > <indiangirl164> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sanjay ji, > > > > > > Thanks for you reply. Appreciate it. > > > > > > I have Mars and Moon in 4th house in Cancer from Lagna. 4th > house > > > lord is in 4th house and my lagna is Aries. > > > > > > Could you please interpret this for me. > > > > > > Thank you sanjay ji. > > > > > > vedic astrology, Sanjay Prabhakaran > > > <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > Not All Mangal dosha is very destructive. > > > > > > > > As per Dr. BV Raman there are exceptions, > > > > "The exceptions are: Mars in the 2nd can be said to be bad > > provided > > > such 2nd > > > > house is any other than Gemini and Virgo; in the 12th the > dosha is > > > produced > > > > when such 12th house is any other than Taurus and Libra in the > 4th > > > house > > > > Mars causes dosha provided the house falls in any sign other > than > > > Aries and > > > > Scorpio; when the 7th is other than Capricorn and Cancer, the > > dosha > > > is given > > > > rise to; and Mars gives bad effects in the 8th, provided the > 8th > > is > > > any > > > > other than Sagittarius and Pisces. In Aquarius and Leo, Mars > > > produces no > > > > dosha whatsoever. The dosha is counteracted by the conjunction > of > > > Mars and > > > > Jupiter or Mars and the Moon; or by the presence of Jupiter or > > > Venus in the > > > > ascendant." > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards > > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/17/06, indiangirl164 <indiangirl164> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Guru's, > > > > > > > > > > I am affected by double manglik dosha. I understand these > > dosha's > > > come > > > > > from past karma's.Is there any way so that God would forgive > you > > > for > > > > > your past mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > When I was a 5th Grade my parents performed some pooja so > that > > the > > > > > effects of mangal dosha goes away. > > > > > > > > > > Other than that can I do anything. I pray hanumanji > regulary, > > will > > > > > that make any difference. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks you in advance. I would really appreciate if someone > can > > > help > > > > > people who are suffering from mangal dosha. > > > > > > > > > > Thank You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info. > > html > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Visit your group "vedic- > > > astrology<vedic astrology>" > > > > > on the web. > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > vedic astrology<vedic- > astrology- > > > ?subject=Un> > > > > > > > > > > - > Terms > > of > > > > > Service <>. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 Dear Dakshinamoorthi ji, I would like to add that the exception rules such as: "Sapthme kuja dosha syath nakra karkatayor vina" are also similar ones without proper authority. It is said that such slokas are present in Devakeralam. But they are not present in Devakeralam (i.e. Chandra- Kala Nadi). Is it that they are speaking about some other Devakeralam which I haven't seen? Is there more than one book with the name Devakeralam? Considering Kuja Dosha (Mangala Dosha) as a thing separate from general prediction steam itself is a diversion from the fundamentals. Since, then we have to consider Sani Dosha, Rahu Dosha, Surya Dosha etc as well, as seperate entities!! More than that there is other specially important things such as placement of 6th lord in 7th. For example we can consider the slokas such as: "Meenasthe madane dinesa thanayo hanyadwadhoom nischayal..." etc. Placement of 6th lord in seventh: 1) Sa in Pi in 7th for Vi Lagna 2) Ve in Sc in 7th for Tu Lagna 3) Ju in Cp in 7th for Cp Lagna etc Are we (the society) not is giving undue importance to the Managalic Dosha? Most of the classics become corrupted due to the insertion of new content (new slokas) amid the old text. Probably Naradeeyam (Narada samhita) also suffered this, and I have some proof for the fact that it is a book created around AD. 250. Of course Narada Samhita is not that popular among astrolers. Mostly they are quoting this sloka from a book called "Jathaka Chandrika" which include this sloka without a proper authority in its "Parisishta" (remaining) chapter. (There 3 or more books with the name Jathaka Chandrika. I am not speaking about the popular Jathaka chandrika that deals with Vimsothari Desa system and prediction). Actually I would suggest that a good astrologer should discard the slokas like "Dhana vyeye cha pathale...." like slokas, (Which gives undue importance to only one special planat, Ma!) since they are even against the fundamentals. If we look at the classics it would become clear to us that, the prediction for Ma in 2nd House, Ma 4th House....Ma in 12th House etc are entirely different! This sloka houses all of them under a single head and says that husband/wife will die due to this common place yoga!! Which itself clearly states that it is not a correct sloka that came from a real authority, but an interpolated one!! In short I agree with your opinions. I would love to see your valuble comments about the above statements. Love, Sreenadh vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > Dear Shri. Sunil: > > What your Guru has taught is about the most severe case of Mars Dosha, > i.e., conditions in which the Mars dosha will directly affect the > longevity of the spouse. The other positions are indicative of > undesirable characteristics or lack of adjustment that may mar marital > felicity. That is why he may not have insisted on the other > positions. > > There is a general consensus among south-indian astrologers that Mars > dosha occurs if Mars is in the 2nd, 4th, 7th, 8th, and 12th houses > from Lagna or Moon. The relevant slokha is: > > "DHANA VYAYECHA PATHALE JAMITRE CHASTHTAME KUJA > STRINAAM BHARTHRU VINAASAMCHA BHARTHUNAAM STRIVINAASANAM" > > It appears in more than one classic including Naradeeyam- the treatise > on Astrology ascribed to Shri Narada. > > The logic of Mars dosha is simple,..... 2nd house is the bhava for > family, 4th for character of a female, 7th for spouse, 8th for > mangalya, and 12th for bed pleasures. Mars is a planet of strife and > domination, and the presence of such a malefic in such vital bhavas > was believed to affect marital felicity. Even Mars in the 5th house > is bad for progenic matters in that the delivery may be difficult or > surgically assisted. But, it is not considered as Mars dosha. > > Ofcourse, there are exceptions to the points I have mentioned above. > > Again, there is NO REFERENCE TO MARS DOSHA in classsics like BPHS or > Brihat Jatakam. But, unfortunately too much importance to this aspect > without taking into account the exceptions has been a bug bear for > many otherwise good horoscopes. > > Blessed be. > > vedic astrology, "divinity_sun" > <divinity_sun> wrote: > > > > Respected Dakshinamoorthi ji > > > > I have learnt from my Guru that Manglik Dosha occurs only if the > > mars is in the 7th or the 8th house from lagna or moon in case of > > girls and in the 7th house from lagna or moon in case of boys. > > > > Even here the effect of Manglik Dosha is reduced when Mars is in its > > own house or debilitated. Mars in any other position from Moon / > > Lagna does not constitute Manglik Dosha. Can you please clarify. > > > > Regards > > > > Sunil V > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > > <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ms. Indiangirl: > > > > > > Nowhere in the classics is the concept of "double mangalik > > dosha" > > > mentioned! And what is more important..... in your horoscope, the > > > following factors have led to the cancellation of the mangalik > > dosha: > > > > > > 1) Conjuntion of Mars with Moon has cancelled the dosha. > > > > > > 2) The lord of the sign in which Mars is placed (in this case it > > is > > > the Moon in own house) is in the 1,4, 7, 5, 9, 10 houses from the > > > lagna. (In your horoscope, Moon is in the 4th house). > > > > > > What is more, this combination of Moon and Mars has given rise to > > two > > > other yogas: > > > > > > 1) Neecha Bhanga raja yoga due to the cancellation of > > debilitation to > > > Mars by Moon. > > > > > > 2) Chandra Mangala Yoga due to combination of Moon and Mars. > > > > > > These yogas infact will bless you with acquisition of landed > > > properties or houses. > > > > > > Kindly throw away all fears of mangalik dosha from your mind. > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > vedic astrology, "indiangirl164" > > > <indiangirl164> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay ji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for you reply. Appreciate it. > > > > > > > > I have Mars and Moon in 4th house in Cancer from Lagna. 4th > > house > > > > lord is in 4th house and my lagna is Aries. > > > > > > > > Could you please interpret this for me. > > > > > > > > Thank you sanjay ji. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Sanjay Prabhakaran > > > > <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > Not All Mangal dosha is very destructive. > > > > > > > > > > As per Dr. BV Raman there are exceptions, > > > > > "The exceptions are: Mars in the 2nd can be said to be bad > > > provided > > > > such 2nd > > > > > house is any other than Gemini and Virgo; in the 12th the > > dosha is > > > > produced > > > > > when such 12th house is any other than Taurus and Libra in the > > 4th > > > > house > > > > > Mars causes dosha provided the house falls in any sign other > > than > > > > Aries and > > > > > Scorpio; when the 7th is other than Capricorn and Cancer, the > > > dosha > > > > is given > > > > > rise to; and Mars gives bad effects in the 8th, provided the > > 8th > > > is > > > > any > > > > > other than Sagittarius and Pisces. In Aquarius and Leo, Mars > > > > produces no > > > > > dosha whatsoever. The dosha is counteracted by the conjunction > > of > > > > Mars and > > > > > Jupiter or Mars and the Moon; or by the presence of Jupiter or > > > > Venus in the > > > > > ascendant." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards > > > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/17/06, indiangirl164 <indiangirl164> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Guru's, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am affected by double manglik dosha. I understand these > > > dosha's > > > > come > > > > > > from past karma's.Is there any way so that God would forgive > > you > > > > for > > > > > > your past mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > When I was a 5th Grade my parents performed some pooja so > > that > > > the > > > > > > effects of mangal dosha goes away. > > > > > > > > > > > > Other than that can I do anything. I pray hanumanji > > regulary, > > > will > > > > > > that make any difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks you in advance. I would really appreciate if someone > > can > > > > help > > > > > > people who are suffering from mangal dosha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > astrology/info. > > > html > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Visit your group "vedic- > > > > astrology<vedic astrology>" > > > > > > on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > vedic astrology<vedic- > > astrology- > > > > ?subject=Un> > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > Terms > > > of > > > > > > Service <>. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Respected Dakshinamoorthi ji Thanx for the clarification. One more query: Should we while matching horoscopes, say that a person who has mars in the 7th house and the counterparty who has mars in the 2nd, 4th, or 12th house have compatible horosopes for marriage, assuming all other factors are matching. Regards Sunil V vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > Dear Shri. Sunil: > > What your Guru has taught is about the most severe case of Mars Dosha, > i.e., conditions in which the Mars dosha will directly affect the > longevity of the spouse. The other positions are indicative of > undesirable characteristics or lack of adjustment that may mar marital > felicity. That is why he may not have insisted on the other > positions. > > There is a general consensus among south-indian astrologers that Mars > dosha occurs if Mars is in the 2nd, 4th, 7th, 8th, and 12th houses > from Lagna or Moon. The relevant slokha is: > > "DHANA VYAYECHA PATHALE JAMITRE CHASTHTAME KUJA > STRINAAM BHARTHRU VINAASAMCHA BHARTHUNAAM STRIVINAASANAM" > > It appears in more than one classic including Naradeeyam- the treatise > on Astrology ascribed to Shri Narada. > > The logic of Mars dosha is simple,..... 2nd house is the bhava for > family, 4th for character of a female, 7th for spouse, 8th for > mangalya, and 12th for bed pleasures. Mars is a planet of strife and > domination, and the presence of such a malefic in such vital bhavas > was believed to affect marital felicity. Even Mars in the 5th house > is bad for progenic matters in that the delivery may be difficult or > surgically assisted. But, it is not considered as Mars dosha. > > Ofcourse, there are exceptions to the points I have mentioned above. > > Again, there is NO REFERENCE TO MARS DOSHA in classsics like BPHS or > Brihat Jatakam. But, unfortunately too much importance to this aspect > without taking into account the exceptions has been a bug bear for > many otherwise good horoscopes. > > Blessed be. > > vedic astrology, "divinity_sun" > <divinity_sun> wrote: > > > > Respected Dakshinamoorthi ji > > > > I have learnt from my Guru that Manglik Dosha occurs only if the > > mars is in the 7th or the 8th house from lagna or moon in case of > > girls and in the 7th house from lagna or moon in case of boys. > > > > Even here the effect of Manglik Dosha is reduced when Mars is in its > > own house or debilitated. Mars in any other position from Moon / > > Lagna does not constitute Manglik Dosha. Can you please clarify. > > > > Regards > > > > Sunil V > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > > <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ms. Indiangirl: > > > > > > Nowhere in the classics is the concept of "double mangalik > > dosha" > > > mentioned! And what is more important..... in your horoscope, the > > > following factors have led to the cancellation of the mangalik > > dosha: > > > > > > 1) Conjuntion of Mars with Moon has cancelled the dosha. > > > > > > 2) The lord of the sign in which Mars is placed (in this case it > > is > > > the Moon in own house) is in the 1,4, 7, 5, 9, 10 houses from the > > > lagna. (In your horoscope, Moon is in the 4th house). > > > > > > What is more, this combination of Moon and Mars has given rise to > > two > > > other yogas: > > > > > > 1) Neecha Bhanga raja yoga due to the cancellation of > > debilitation to > > > Mars by Moon. > > > > > > 2) Chandra Mangala Yoga due to combination of Moon and Mars. > > > > > > These yogas infact will bless you with acquisition of landed > > > properties or houses. > > > > > > Kindly throw away all fears of mangalik dosha from your mind. > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > vedic astrology, "indiangirl164" > > > <indiangirl164> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay ji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for you reply. Appreciate it. > > > > > > > > I have Mars and Moon in 4th house in Cancer from Lagna. 4th > > house > > > > lord is in 4th house and my lagna is Aries. > > > > > > > > Could you please interpret this for me. > > > > > > > > Thank you sanjay ji. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Sanjay Prabhakaran > > > > <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > Not All Mangal dosha is very destructive. > > > > > > > > > > As per Dr. BV Raman there are exceptions, > > > > > "The exceptions are: Mars in the 2nd can be said to be bad > > > provided > > > > such 2nd > > > > > house is any other than Gemini and Virgo; in the 12th the > > dosha is > > > > produced > > > > > when such 12th house is any other than Taurus and Libra in the > > 4th > > > > house > > > > > Mars causes dosha provided the house falls in any sign other > > than > > > > Aries and > > > > > Scorpio; when the 7th is other than Capricorn and Cancer, the > > > dosha > > > > is given > > > > > rise to; and Mars gives bad effects in the 8th, provided the > > 8th > > > is > > > > any > > > > > other than Sagittarius and Pisces. In Aquarius and Leo, Mars > > > > produces no > > > > > dosha whatsoever. The dosha is counteracted by the conjunction > > of > > > > Mars and > > > > > Jupiter or Mars and the Moon; or by the presence of Jupiter or > > > > Venus in the > > > > > ascendant." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards > > > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/17/06, indiangirl164 <indiangirl164> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Guru's, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am affected by double manglik dosha. I understand these > > > dosha's > > > > come > > > > > > from past karma's.Is there any way so that God would forgive > > you > > > > for > > > > > > your past mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > When I was a 5th Grade my parents performed some pooja so > > that > > > the > > > > > > effects of mangal dosha goes away. > > > > > > > > > > > > Other than that can I do anything. I pray hanumanji > > regulary, > > > will > > > > > > that make any difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks you in advance. I would really appreciate if someone > > can > > > > help > > > > > > people who are suffering from mangal dosha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > astrology/info. > > > html > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Visit your group "vedic- > > > > astrology<vedic astrology>" > > > > > > on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > vedic astrology<vedic- > > astrology- > > > > ?subject=Un> > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > Terms > > > of > > > > > > Service <>. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Dear Sunilji: I would say that the compatibility is o.k. in the case you have mentioned. However, there is another opinion among learned astrologers in this regard.....There is a school of thought by which they feel that the position of Mars should be identical, i.e., if mars is in the 2nd house in one horoscope then the matching horoscope will be only another one with Mars in the 2nd house, and so on. They have even allocated different percentages to the doshas thus arising due to different position of Mars and feel that both the horoscopes should have similar percentage of dosha. While dealing with Mars dosha, I feel, it is better to check whether both the horoscopes have dosha per se, and then to rely on remedies if we intuitively feel a mild mismatch in the quantum of dosha while other factors are alright, rather than going too deep into it thus giving undue importance to this single aspect. There are mantrik methods by which the severity of the Mars dosha can be reduced if the dosha cannot be entirely banished. Performing them with devotion under the guidance of an expert pandit may help. Sometimes I have seen that young ladies whose horoscopes have Mars dosha performing regular worship in Durga temples on Tuesdays in the fear that their marital lives may be affected, later get wonderful alliances probably due to the merit accruing out of their devoted worship! Thus, their very mars dosha had become a boon. This, I would say, should be the attitude towards Mars dosha instead of getting unduly worried about the dosha. Blessed be. vedic astrology, "divinity_sun" <divinity_sun> wrote: > > > Respected Dakshinamoorthi ji > > Thanx for the clarification. One more query: Should we while > matching horoscopes, say that a person who has mars in the 7th house > and the counterparty who has mars in the 2nd, 4th, or 12th house > have compatible horosopes for marriage, assuming all other factors > are matching. > > Regards > > Sunil V > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri. Sunil: > > > > What your Guru has taught is about the most severe case of Mars > Dosha, > > i.e., conditions in which the Mars dosha will directly affect the > > longevity of the spouse. The other positions are indicative of > > undesirable characteristics or lack of adjustment that may mar > marital > > felicity. That is why he may not have insisted on the other > > positions. > > > > There is a general consensus among south-indian astrologers that > Mars > > dosha occurs if Mars is in the 2nd, 4th, 7th, 8th, and 12th houses > > from Lagna or Moon. The relevant slokha is: > > > > "DHANA VYAYECHA PATHALE JAMITRE CHASTHTAME KUJA > > STRINAAM BHARTHRU VINAASAMCHA BHARTHUNAAM STRIVINAASANAM" > > > > It appears in more than one classic including Naradeeyam- the > treatise > > on Astrology ascribed to Shri Narada. > > > > The logic of Mars dosha is simple,..... 2nd house is the bhava for > > family, 4th for character of a female, 7th for spouse, 8th for > > mangalya, and 12th for bed pleasures. Mars is a planet of strife > and > > domination, and the presence of such a malefic in such vital > bhavas > > was believed to affect marital felicity. Even Mars in the 5th > house > > is bad for progenic matters in that the delivery may be difficult > or > > surgically assisted. But, it is not considered as Mars dosha. > > > > Ofcourse, there are exceptions to the points I have mentioned > above. > > > > Again, there is NO REFERENCE TO MARS DOSHA in classsics like BPHS > or > > Brihat Jatakam. But, unfortunately too much importance to this > aspect > > without taking into account the exceptions has been a bug bear for > > many otherwise good horoscopes. > > > > Blessed be. > > > > vedic astrology, "divinity_sun" > > <divinity_sun> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Dakshinamoorthi ji > > > > > > I have learnt from my Guru that Manglik Dosha occurs only if the > > > mars is in the 7th or the 8th house from lagna or moon in case > of > > > girls and in the 7th house from lagna or moon in case of boys. > > > > > > Even here the effect of Manglik Dosha is reduced when Mars is in > its > > > own house or debilitated. Mars in any other position from Moon / > > > Lagna does not constitute Manglik Dosha. Can you please clarify. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Sunil V > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > > > <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ms. Indiangirl: > > > > > > > > Nowhere in the classics is the concept of "double mangalik > > > dosha" > > > > mentioned! And what is more important..... in your horoscope, > the > > > > following factors have led to the cancellation of the mangalik > > > dosha: > > > > > > > > 1) Conjuntion of Mars with Moon has cancelled the dosha. > > > > > > > > 2) The lord of the sign in which Mars is placed (in this case > it > > > is > > > > the Moon in own house) is in the 1,4, 7, 5, 9, 10 houses from > the > > > > lagna. (In your horoscope, Moon is in the 4th house). > > > > > > > > What is more, this combination of Moon and Mars has given rise > to > > > two > > > > other yogas: > > > > > > > > 1) Neecha Bhanga raja yoga due to the cancellation of > > > debilitation to > > > > Mars by Moon. > > > > > > > > 2) Chandra Mangala Yoga due to combination of Moon and Mars. > > > > > > > > These yogas infact will bless you with acquisition of landed > > > > properties or houses. > > > > > > > > Kindly throw away all fears of mangalik dosha from your mind. > > > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > > vedic astrology, "indiangirl164" > > > > <indiangirl164> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay ji, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for you reply. Appreciate it. > > > > > > > > > > I have Mars and Moon in 4th house in Cancer from Lagna. 4th > > > house > > > > > lord is in 4th house and my lagna is Aries. > > > > > > > > > > Could you please interpret this for me. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you sanjay ji. > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Sanjay Prabhakaran > > > > > <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > Not All Mangal dosha is very destructive. > > > > > > > > > > > > As per Dr. BV Raman there are exceptions, > > > > > > "The exceptions are: Mars in the 2nd can be said to be bad > > > > provided > > > > > such 2nd > > > > > > house is any other than Gemini and Virgo; in the 12th the > > > dosha is > > > > > produced > > > > > > when such 12th house is any other than Taurus and Libra in > the > > > 4th > > > > > house > > > > > > Mars causes dosha provided the house falls in any sign > other > > > than > > > > > Aries and > > > > > > Scorpio; when the 7th is other than Capricorn and Cancer, > the > > > > dosha > > > > > is given > > > > > > rise to; and Mars gives bad effects in the 8th, provided > the > > > 8th > > > > is > > > > > any > > > > > > other than Sagittarius and Pisces. In Aquarius and Leo, > Mars > > > > > produces no > > > > > > dosha whatsoever. The dosha is counteracted by the > conjunction > > > of > > > > > Mars and > > > > > > Jupiter or Mars and the Moon; or by the presence of > Jupiter or > > > > > Venus in the > > > > > > ascendant." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards > > > > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/17/06, indiangirl164 <indiangirl164> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Guru's, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am affected by double manglik dosha. I understand > these > > > > dosha's > > > > > come > > > > > > > from past karma's.Is there any way so that God would > forgive > > > you > > > > > for > > > > > > > your past mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I was a 5th Grade my parents performed some pooja > so > > > that > > > > the > > > > > > > effects of mangal dosha goes away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Other than that can I do anything. I pray hanumanji > > > regulary, > > > > will > > > > > > > that make any difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks you in advance. I would really appreciate if > someone > > > can > > > > > help > > > > > > > people who are suffering from mangal dosha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > astrology/info. > > > > html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu | | > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Visit your group "vedic- > > > > > astrology<vedic astrology>" > > > > > > > on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > vedic astrology<vedic- > > > astrology- > > > > > ?subject=Un> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Terms > > > > of > > > > > > > Service <>. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Dear Dakshinamoorthy ji, What do you mean by "8th for Mangalya? thank you Saman -- In vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > Dear Shri. Sunil: > > What your Guru has taught is about the most severe case of Mars Dosha, > i.e., conditions in which the Mars dosha will directly affect the > longevity of the spouse. The other positions are indicative of > undesirable characteristics or lack of adjustment that may mar marital > felicity. That is why he may not have insisted on the other > positions. > > There is a general consensus among south-indian astrologers that Mars > dosha occurs if Mars is in the 2nd, 4th, 7th, 8th, and 12th houses > from Lagna or Moon. The relevant slokha is: > > "DHANA VYAYECHA PATHALE JAMITRE CHASTHTAME KUJA > STRINAAM BHARTHRU VINAASAMCHA BHARTHUNAAM STRIVINAASANAM" > > It appears in more than one classic including Naradeeyam- the treatise > on Astrology ascribed to Shri Narada. > > The logic of Mars dosha is simple,..... 2nd house is the bhava for > family, 4th for character of a female, 7th for spouse, 8th for > mangalya, and 12th for bed pleasures. Mars is a planet of strife and > domination, and the presence of such a malefic in such vital bhavas > was believed to affect marital felicity. Even Mars in the 5th house > is bad for progenic matters in that the delivery may be difficult or > surgically assisted. But, it is not considered as Mars dosha. > > Ofcourse, there are exceptions to the points I have mentioned above. > > Again, there is NO REFERENCE TO MARS DOSHA in classsics like BPHS or > Brihat Jatakam. But, unfortunately too much importance to this aspect > without taking into account the exceptions has been a bug bear for > many otherwise good horoscopes. > > Blessed be. > > vedic astrology, "divinity_sun" > <divinity_sun> wrote: > > > > Respected Dakshinamoorthi ji > > > > I have learnt from my Guru that Manglik Dosha occurs only if the > > mars is in the 7th or the 8th house from lagna or moon in case of > > girls and in the 7th house from lagna or moon in case of boys. > > > > Even here the effect of Manglik Dosha is reduced when Mars is in its > > own house or debilitated. Mars in any other position from Moon / > > Lagna does not constitute Manglik Dosha. Can you please clarify. > > > > Regards > > > > Sunil V > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > > <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ms. Indiangirl: > > > > > > Nowhere in the classics is the concept of "double mangalik > > dosha" > > > mentioned! And what is more important..... in your horoscope, the > > > following factors have led to the cancellation of the mangalik > > dosha: > > > > > > 1) Conjuntion of Mars with Moon has cancelled the dosha. > > > > > > 2) The lord of the sign in which Mars is placed (in this case it > > is > > > the Moon in own house) is in the 1,4, 7, 5, 9, 10 houses from the > > > lagna. (In your horoscope, Moon is in the 4th house). > > > > > > What is more, this combination of Moon and Mars has given rise to > > two > > > other yogas: > > > > > > 1) Neecha Bhanga raja yoga due to the cancellation of > > debilitation to > > > Mars by Moon. > > > > > > 2) Chandra Mangala Yoga due to combination of Moon and Mars. > > > > > > These yogas infact will bless you with acquisition of landed > > > properties or houses. > > > > > > Kindly throw away all fears of mangalik dosha from your mind. > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > vedic astrology, "indiangirl164" > > > <indiangirl164> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay ji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for you reply. Appreciate it. > > > > > > > > I have Mars and Moon in 4th house in Cancer from Lagna. 4th > > house > > > > lord is in 4th house and my lagna is Aries. > > > > > > > > Could you please interpret this for me. > > > > > > > > Thank you sanjay ji. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Sanjay Prabhakaran > > > > <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > Not All Mangal dosha is very destructive. > > > > > > > > > > As per Dr. BV Raman there are exceptions, > > > > > "The exceptions are: Mars in the 2nd can be said to be bad > > > provided > > > > such 2nd > > > > > house is any other than Gemini and Virgo; in the 12th the > > dosha is > > > > produced > > > > > when such 12th house is any other than Taurus and Libra in the > > 4th > > > > house > > > > > Mars causes dosha provided the house falls in any sign other > > than > > > > Aries and > > > > > Scorpio; when the 7th is other than Capricorn and Cancer, the > > > dosha > > > > is given > > > > > rise to; and Mars gives bad effects in the 8th, provided the > > 8th > > > is > > > > any > > > > > other than Sagittarius and Pisces. In Aquarius and Leo, Mars > > > > produces no > > > > > dosha whatsoever. The dosha is counteracted by the conjunction > > of > > > > Mars and > > > > > Jupiter or Mars and the Moon; or by the presence of Jupiter or > > > > Venus in the > > > > > ascendant." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards > > > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/17/06, indiangirl164 <indiangirl164> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Guru's, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am affected by double manglik dosha. I understand these > > > dosha's > > > > come > > > > > > from past karma's.Is there any way so that God would forgive > > you > > > > for > > > > > > your past mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > When I was a 5th Grade my parents performed some pooja so > > that > > > the > > > > > > effects of mangal dosha goes away. > > > > > > > > > > > > Other than that can I do anything. I pray hanumanji > > regulary, > > > will > > > > > > that make any difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks you in advance. I would really appreciate if someone > > can > > > > help > > > > > > people who are suffering from mangal dosha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > astrology/info. > > > html > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Visit your group "vedic- > > > > astrology<vedic astrology>" > > > > > > on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > vedic astrology<vedic- > > astrology- > > > > ?subject=Un> > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > Terms > > > of > > > > > > Service <>. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Dear Saman ji, Dakshina moorthi ji's meaning is perfectly clear and correct. 7th house indicates marriage and sex. 8th house indicates life after marriage. Mangalya means "the state/condition after marriage". The string wound around the neck of marriend women is known as "Mangalya suthra", just for a comparison. Most of the classics advice us to think about the "state/condition after marriage" with the 8th house, i.e. Mangalya Sthana. Love, Sreenadh vedic astrology, "samansumanadasam" <samansumanadasam> wrote: > > Dear Dakshinamoorthy ji, > > What do you mean by "8th for Mangalya? > > thank you > Saman > > -- In vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri. Sunil: > > > > What your Guru has taught is about the most severe case of Mars > Dosha, > > i.e., conditions in which the Mars dosha will directly affect the > > longevity of the spouse. The other positions are indicative of > > undesirable characteristics or lack of adjustment that may mar > marital > > felicity. That is why he may not have insisted on the other > > positions. > > > > There is a general consensus among south-indian astrologers that > Mars > > dosha occurs if Mars is in the 2nd, 4th, 7th, 8th, and 12th houses > > from Lagna or Moon. The relevant slokha is: > > > > "DHANA VYAYECHA PATHALE JAMITRE CHASTHTAME KUJA > > STRINAAM BHARTHRU VINAASAMCHA BHARTHUNAAM STRIVINAASANAM" > > > > It appears in more than one classic including Naradeeyam- the > treatise > > on Astrology ascribed to Shri Narada. > > > > The logic of Mars dosha is simple,..... 2nd house is the bhava for > > family, 4th for character of a female, 7th for spouse, 8th for > > mangalya, and 12th for bed pleasures. Mars is a planet of strife > and > > domination, and the presence of such a malefic in such vital bhavas > > was believed to affect marital felicity. Even Mars in the 5th > house > > is bad for progenic matters in that the delivery may be difficult > or > > surgically assisted. But, it is not considered as Mars dosha. > > > > Ofcourse, there are exceptions to the points I have mentioned above. > > > > Again, there is NO REFERENCE TO MARS DOSHA in classsics like BPHS > or > > Brihat Jatakam. But, unfortunately too much importance to this > aspect > > without taking into account the exceptions has been a bug bear for > > many otherwise good horoscopes. > > > > Blessed be. > > > > vedic astrology, "divinity_sun" > > <divinity_sun> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Dakshinamoorthi ji > > > > > > I have learnt from my Guru that Manglik Dosha occurs only if the > > > mars is in the 7th or the 8th house from lagna or moon in case of > > > girls and in the 7th house from lagna or moon in case of boys. > > > > > > Even here the effect of Manglik Dosha is reduced when Mars is in > its > > > own house or debilitated. Mars in any other position from Moon / > > > Lagna does not constitute Manglik Dosha. Can you please clarify. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Sunil V > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > > > <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ms. Indiangirl: > > > > > > > > Nowhere in the classics is the concept of "double mangalik > > > dosha" > > > > mentioned! And what is more important..... in your horoscope, > the > > > > following factors have led to the cancellation of the mangalik > > > dosha: > > > > > > > > 1) Conjuntion of Mars with Moon has cancelled the dosha. > > > > > > > > 2) The lord of the sign in which Mars is placed (in this case > it > > > is > > > > the Moon in own house) is in the 1,4, 7, 5, 9, 10 houses from > the > > > > lagna. (In your horoscope, Moon is in the 4th house). > > > > > > > > What is more, this combination of Moon and Mars has given rise > to > > > two > > > > other yogas: > > > > > > > > 1) Neecha Bhanga raja yoga due to the cancellation of > > > debilitation to > > > > Mars by Moon. > > > > > > > > 2) Chandra Mangala Yoga due to combination of Moon and Mars. > > > > > > > > These yogas infact will bless you with acquisition of landed > > > > properties or houses. > > > > > > > > Kindly throw away all fears of mangalik dosha from your mind. > > > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > > vedic astrology, "indiangirl164" > > > > <indiangirl164> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay ji, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for you reply. Appreciate it. > > > > > > > > > > I have Mars and Moon in 4th house in Cancer from Lagna. 4th > > > house > > > > > lord is in 4th house and my lagna is Aries. > > > > > > > > > > Could you please interpret this for me. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you sanjay ji. > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Sanjay Prabhakaran > > > > > <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > Not All Mangal dosha is very destructive. > > > > > > > > > > > > As per Dr. BV Raman there are exceptions, > > > > > > "The exceptions are: Mars in the 2nd can be said to be bad > > > > provided > > > > > such 2nd > > > > > > house is any other than Gemini and Virgo; in the 12th the > > > dosha is > > > > > produced > > > > > > when such 12th house is any other than Taurus and Libra in > the > > > 4th > > > > > house > > > > > > Mars causes dosha provided the house falls in any sign > other > > > than > > > > > Aries and > > > > > > Scorpio; when the 7th is other than Capricorn and Cancer, > the > > > > dosha > > > > > is given > > > > > > rise to; and Mars gives bad effects in the 8th, provided > the > > > 8th > > > > is > > > > > any > > > > > > other than Sagittarius and Pisces. In Aquarius and Leo, > Mars > > > > > produces no > > > > > > dosha whatsoever. The dosha is counteracted by the > conjunction > > > of > > > > > Mars and > > > > > > Jupiter or Mars and the Moon; or by the presence of Jupiter > or > > > > > Venus in the > > > > > > ascendant." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards > > > > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/17/06, indiangirl164 <indiangirl164> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Guru's, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am affected by double manglik dosha. I understand these > > > > dosha's > > > > > come > > > > > > > from past karma's.Is there any way so that God would > forgive > > > you > > > > > for > > > > > > > your past mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I was a 5th Grade my parents performed some pooja so > > > that > > > > the > > > > > > > effects of mangal dosha goes away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Other than that can I do anything. I pray hanumanji > > > regulary, > > > > will > > > > > > > that make any difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks you in advance. I would really appreciate if > someone > > > can > > > > > help > > > > > > > people who are suffering from mangal dosha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > astrology/info. > > > > html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu | | > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Visit your group "vedic- > > > > > astrology<vedic astrology>" > > > > > > > on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > vedic astrology<vedic- > > > astrology- > > > > > ?subject=Un> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Terms > > > > of > > > > > > > Service <>. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Respected Dakshinamoorthi ji Does Mars in 8th house in an aries ascendant indicate a bad Mangalya? Even though the planet is in its own house. Let me know when you get a moment. Regards, Pranav Sreenadh <sreelid wrote: Dear Saman ji, Dakshina moorthi ji's meaning is perfectly clear and correct. 7th house indicates marriage and sex. 8th house indicates life after marriage. Mangalya means "the state/condition after marriage". The string wound around the neck of marriend women is known as "Mangalya suthra", just for a comparison. Most of the classics advice us to think about the "state/condition after marriage" with the 8th house, i.e. Mangalya Sthana. Love, Sreenadh vedic astrology, "samansumanadasam" <samansumanadasam> wrote: > > Dear Dakshinamoorthy ji, > > What do you mean by "8th for Mangalya? > > thank you > Saman > > -- In vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri. Sunil: > > > > What your Guru has taught is about the most severe case of Mars > Dosha, > > i.e., conditions in which the Mars dosha will directly affect the > > longevity of the spouse. The other positions are indicative of > > undesirable characteristics or lack of adjustment that may mar > marital > > felicity. That is why he may not have insisted on the other > > positions. > > > > There is a general consensus among south-indian astrologers that > Mars > > dosha occurs if Mars is in the 2nd, 4th, 7th, 8th, and 12th houses > > from Lagna or Moon. The relevant slokha is: > > > > "DHANA VYAYECHA PATHALE JAMITRE CHASTHTAME KUJA > > STRINAAM BHARTHRU VINAASAMCHA BHARTHUNAAM STRIVINAASANAM" > > > > It appears in more than one classic including Naradeeyam- the > treatise > > on Astrology ascribed to Shri Narada. > > > > The logic of Mars dosha is simple,..... 2nd house is the bhava for > > family, 4th for character of a female, 7th for spouse, 8th for > > mangalya, and 12th for bed pleasures. Mars is a planet of strife > and > > domination, and the presence of such a malefic in such vital bhavas > > was believed to affect marital felicity. Even Mars in the 5th > house > > is bad for progenic matters in that the delivery may be difficult > or > > surgically assisted. But, it is not considered as Mars dosha. > > > > Ofcourse, there are exceptions to the points I have mentioned above. > > > > Again, there is NO REFERENCE TO MARS DOSHA in classsics like BPHS > or > > Brihat Jatakam. But, unfortunately too much importance to this > aspect > > without taking into account the exceptions has been a bug bear for > > many otherwise good horoscopes. > > > > Blessed be. > > > > vedic astrology, "divinity_sun" > > <divinity_sun> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Dakshinamoorthi ji > > > > > > I have learnt from my Guru that Manglik Dosha occurs only if the > > > mars is in the 7th or the 8th house from lagna or moon in case of > > > girls and in the 7th house from lagna or moon in case of boys. > > > > > > Even here the effect of Manglik Dosha is reduced when Mars is in > its > > > own house or debilitated. Mars in any other position from Moon / > > > Lagna does not constitute Manglik Dosha. Can you please clarify. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Sunil V > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > > > <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ms. Indiangirl: > > > > > > > > Nowhere in the classics is the concept of "double mangalik > > > dosha" > > > > mentioned! And what is more important..... in your horoscope, > the > > > > following factors have led to the cancellation of the mangalik > > > dosha: > > > > > > > > 1) Conjuntion of Mars with Moon has cancelled the dosha. > > > > > > > > 2) The lord of the sign in which Mars is placed (in this case > it > > > is > > > > the Moon in own house) is in the 1,4, 7, 5, 9, 10 houses from > the > > > > lagna. (In your horoscope, Moon is in the 4th house). > > > > > > > > What is more, this combination of Moon and Mars has given rise > to > > > two > > > > other yogas: > > > > > > > > 1) Neecha Bhanga raja yoga due to the cancellation of > > > debilitation to > > > > Mars by Moon. > > > > > > > > 2) Chandra Mangala Yoga due to combination of Moon and Mars. > > > > > > > > These yogas infact will bless you with acquisition of landed > > > > properties or houses. > > > > > > > > Kindly throw away all fears of mangalik dosha from your mind. > > > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > > vedic astrology, "indiangirl164" > > > > <indiangirl164> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay ji, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for you reply. Appreciate it. > > > > > > > > > > I have Mars and Moon in 4th house in Cancer from Lagna. 4th > > > house > > > > > lord is in 4th house and my lagna is Aries. > > > > > > > > > > Could you please interpret this for me. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you sanjay ji. > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Sanjay Prabhakaran > > > > > <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > Not All Mangal dosha is very destructive. > > > > > > > > > > > > As per Dr. BV Raman there are exceptions, > > > > > > "The exceptions are: Mars in the 2nd can be said to be bad > > > > provided > > > > > such 2nd > > > > > > house is any other than Gemini and Virgo; in the 12th the > > > dosha is > > > > > produced > > > > > > when such 12th house is any other than Taurus and Libra in > the > > > 4th > > > > > house > > > > > > Mars causes dosha provided the house falls in any sign > other > > > than > > > > > Aries and > > > > > > Scorpio; when the 7th is other than Capricorn and Cancer, > the > > > > dosha > > > > > is given > > > > > > rise to; and Mars gives bad effects in the 8th, provided > the > > > 8th > > > > is > > > > > any > > > > > > other than Sagittarius and Pisces. In Aquarius and Leo, > Mars > > > > > produces no > > > > > > dosha whatsoever. The dosha is counteracted by the > conjunction > > > of > > > > > Mars and > > > > > > Jupiter or Mars and the Moon; or by the presence of Jupiter > or > > > > > Venus in the > > > > > > ascendant." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards > > > > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/17/06, indiangirl164 <indiangirl164> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Guru's, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am affected by double manglik dosha. I understand these > > > > dosha's > > > > > come > > > > > > > from past karma's.Is there any way so that God would > forgive > > > you > > > > > for > > > > > > > your past mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I was a 5th Grade my parents performed some pooja so > > > that > > > > the > > > > > > > effects of mangal dosha goes away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Other than that can I do anything. I pray hanumanji > > > regulary, > > > > will > > > > > > > that make any difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks you in advance. I would really appreciate if > someone > > > can > > > > > help > > > > > > > people who are suffering from mangal dosha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > astrology/info. > > > > html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu | | > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Visit your group "vedic- > > > > > astrology<vedic astrology>" > > > > > > > on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > vedic astrology<vedic- > > > astrology- > > > > > ?subject=Un> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Terms > > > > of > > > > > > > Service <>. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrology chart Vedic astrology Astrology horoscope Astrology software Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology What are the most popular cars? Find out at Autos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 4-12 house . Then My reply would be simply yes rest keeping constant. But We must check Navmansha also in case of 12 th house. It it not so firm considered. Just a weak dosah. skotak divinity_sun <divinity_sun wrote: Respected Dakshinamoorthi ji Thanx for the clarification. One more query: Should we while matching horoscopes, say that a person who has mars in the 7th house and the counterparty who has mars in the 2nd, 4th, or 12th house have compatible horosopes for marriage, assuming all other factors are matching. Regards Sunil V vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > Dear Shri. Sunil: > > What your Guru has taught is about the most severe case of Mars Dosha, > i.e., conditions in which the Mars dosha will directly affect the > longevity of the spouse. The other positions are indicative of > undesirable characteristics or lack of adjustment that may mar marital > felicity. That is why he may not have insisted on the other > positions. > > There is a general consensus among south-indian astrologers that Mars > dosha occurs if Mars is in the 2nd, 4th, 7th, 8th, and 12th houses > from Lagna or Moon. The relevant slokha is: > > "DHANA VYAYECHA PATHALE JAMITRE CHASTHTAME KUJA > STRINAAM BHARTHRU VINAASAMCHA BHARTHUNAAM STRIVINAASANAM" > > It appears in more than one classic including Naradeeyam- the treatise > on Astrology ascribed to Shri Narada. > > The logic of Mars dosha is simple,..... 2nd house is the bhava for > family, 4th for character of a female, 7th for spouse, 8th for > mangalya, and 12th for bed pleasures. Mars is a planet of strife and > domination, and the presence of such a malefic in such vital bhavas > was believed to affect marital felicity. Even Mars in the 5th house > is bad for progenic matters in that the delivery may be difficult or > surgically assisted. But, it is not considered as Mars dosha. > > Ofcourse, there are exceptions to the points I have mentioned above. > > Again, there is NO REFERENCE TO MARS DOSHA in classsics like BPHS or > Brihat Jatakam. But, unfortunately too much importance to this aspect > without taking into account the exceptions has been a bug bear for > many otherwise good horoscopes. > > Blessed be. > > vedic astrology, "divinity_sun" > <divinity_sun> wrote: > > > > Respected Dakshinamoorthi ji > > > > I have learnt from my Guru that Manglik Dosha occurs only if the > > mars is in the 7th or the 8th house from lagna or moon in case of > > girls and in the 7th house from lagna or moon in case of boys. > > > > Even here the effect of Manglik Dosha is reduced when Mars is in its > > own house or debilitated. Mars in any other position from Moon / > > Lagna does not constitute Manglik Dosha. Can you please clarify. > > > > Regards > > > > Sunil V > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > > <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ms. Indiangirl: > > > > > > Nowhere in the classics is the concept of "double mangalik > > dosha" > > > mentioned! And what is more important..... in your horoscope, the > > > following factors have led to the cancellation of the mangalik > > dosha: > > > > > > 1) Conjuntion of Mars with Moon has cancelled the dosha. > > > > > > 2) The lord of the sign in which Mars is placed (in this case it > > is > > > the Moon in own house) is in the 1,4, 7, 5, 9, 10 houses from the > > > lagna. (In your horoscope, Moon is in the 4th house). > > > > > > What is more, this combination of Moon and Mars has given rise to > > two > > > other yogas: > > > > > > 1) Neecha Bhanga raja yoga due to the cancellation of > > debilitation to > > > Mars by Moon. > > > > > > 2) Chandra Mangala Yoga due to combination of Moon and Mars. > > > > > > These yogas infact will bless you with acquisition of landed > > > properties or houses. > > > > > > Kindly throw away all fears of mangalik dosha from your mind. > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > vedic astrology, "indiangirl164" > > > <indiangirl164> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay ji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for you reply. Appreciate it. > > > > > > > > I have Mars and Moon in 4th house in Cancer from Lagna. 4th > > house > > > > lord is in 4th house and my lagna is Aries. > > > > > > > > Could you please interpret this for me. > > > > > > > > Thank you sanjay ji. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Sanjay Prabhakaran > > > > <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > Not All Mangal dosha is very destructive. > > > > > > > > > > As per Dr. BV Raman there are exceptions, > > > > > "The exceptions are: Mars in the 2nd can be said to be bad > > > provided > > > > such 2nd > > > > > house is any other than Gemini and Virgo; in the 12th the > > dosha is > > > > produced > > > > > when such 12th house is any other than Taurus and Libra in the > > 4th > > > > house > > > > > Mars causes dosha provided the house falls in any sign other > > than > > > > Aries and > > > > > Scorpio; when the 7th is other than Capricorn and Cancer, the > > > dosha > > > > is given > > > > > rise to; and Mars gives bad effects in the 8th, provided the > > 8th > > > is > > > > any > > > > > other than Sagittarius and Pisces. In Aquarius and Leo, Mars > > > > produces no > > > > > dosha whatsoever. The dosha is counteracted by the conjunction > > of > > > > Mars and > > > > > Jupiter or Mars and the Moon; or by the presence of Jupiter or > > > > Venus in the > > > > > ascendant." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards > > > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/17/06, indiangirl164 <indiangirl164> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Guru's, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am affected by double manglik dosha. I understand these > > > dosha's > > > > come > > > > > > from past karma's.Is there any way so that God would forgive > > you > > > > for > > > > > > your past mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > When I was a 5th Grade my parents performed some pooja so > > that > > > the > > > > > > effects of mangal dosha goes away. > > > > > > > > > > > > Other than that can I do anything. I pray hanumanji > > regulary, > > > will > > > > > > that make any difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks you in advance. I would really appreciate if someone > > can > > > > help > > > > > > people who are suffering from mangal dosha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > astrology/info. > > > html > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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