Saturn Mars combination .( RAJ YOGA ???)

December 19, 2005

Dear Rafal ji,

i wish to ask that for libra ascendant person will saturn+mars

combination prove to be a Raj yoga?

and what will be its results if it is placed in 12th house for same

ascendant.

Thanks and Regards

Tarun.

vedic astrology, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme@w...> wrote:

>

> Dear Gulabo,

>

> It can indicate crazy situation / partner (must be corrected with

other

> points) in seventh house matters.

> Mars removes delay, but this is boxing Yoga so one's attitude is

not right.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> -

> "gulabo_jain" <gulabo_jain>

> <vedic astrology>

> Monday, December 19, 2005 11:20 AM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Saturn Mars combination .

>

> What are the effects of Saturn-Mars in 7th house for Scorpio Acs.

>

> Gulabo

>

> vedic astrology, "Rafal Gendarz"

> <starsuponme@w...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Anand, Akbar,

> >

> > Sani and Mars is Unmada Yoga, it is strict when Sani is in first

> and Mars is

> > in seventh according to Varahamihira. In Lagna it affects Prana

> and problem

> > with intelligence/decision can come.

> > It can also indicate adoption if influence ninth from concerned

> Upapada.

> >

> > Regards

> > Rafal Gendarz

> >

> > -

> > "Anan" <synetics@r...>

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Monday, December 19, 2005 10:04 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Saturn Mars combination .

> >

> > >

> > > Dear Akbar ,

> > >

> > > Saturn Mars together means problems in relationships and extreme

> behaviour

> > > patten . If in lagna , it means trouble in settling issues with

> the self.

> > > Sometimes the person will take up causes only to do U turn

> later .

> > > Wavering

> > > mind . However as Mars begins to wane , the person may take up

> causes

> > > after

> > > due diligence and see them to fructification .

> > >

> > > Regards ,

> > >

> > > Anand

> > >

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> > > Emperor Akbar <akbarbadushah>

> > > <vedic astrology>

> > > Cc: <akbarbadushah>

> > > Friday, November 25, 2005 11:00 PM

> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Digest Number 3576

> > >

> > >> Dear Astrologers,

> > >>

> > >> I read a good article on Saturn - Mars combination in

> lagna /involving

> > > lagna lord. This is one of the very difficult combinations next

> only to

> > > sun-saturn.

> > >> However it is amazing to note this combination in great

> achievers..

> > >> For example, though this combination brings misfortune and

> difficult

> > > circumstances in life, it is typically strong in

providing 'Well-

> targetted

> > > focus and energy' . Please note Mars is exalted in Saturn's

> house

> > > capricorn.

> > >> A saturn-mars combo with Lagna lord in one of Taurus, Libra

> and

> > > Capricorn houses can result in the following;

> > >> 'You are very serious about reaching your goals and feel that

> keeping

> > > your nose to the grindstone is the only way to do it. Hard work,

> > > persistent

> > > effort, and concentration upon a single objective are the ways

> you achieve

> > > your aims in life. You exercise great self-control, even self-

> denial, in

> > > order to accomplish what you desire. You meet obstacles

> stoically and will

> > > struggle patiently through difficult circumstances. You feel

> that you must

> > > rely on yourself alone, that it's all on your shoulders, and you

> can be a

> > > harsh disciplinarian, expecting far too much from yourself and

> others.

> > > Often

> > > you hold yourself back, doubting your own power and ability. You

> may feel

> > > that you meet great resistance whenever you try to assert

> yourself or take

> > > initiative, and that is very frustrating to you. However, you

> have the

> > > power

> > > of endurance and a dogged determination to overcome all

> obstacles.'

> > >>

> > >> Any interesting thoughts on the above is welcome. Any

> thoughts

> > >> planetary

> > > combinations are welcome as they are vital in professional

> predictive

> > > astrology.

> > >>

> > >> Regards

> > >> Akbar

> > >> >

> > >

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December 20, 2005

Dear Tarun,

Yes. Its Laxmi-Narayana Yoga (Kona+Kendra).

It can fructify in foreign country.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

-

"~ Tarun ~" <tarun.virgo

Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:32 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: Saturn Mars combination .( RAJ YOGA ???)

Dear Rafal ji,

i wish to ask that for libra ascendant person will saturn+mars

combination prove to be a Raj yoga?

and what will be its results if it is placed in 12th house for same

ascendant.

Thanks and Regards

Tarun.

vedic astrology, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme@w...> wrote:

>

> Dear Gulabo,

>

> It can indicate crazy situation / partner (must be corrected with

other

> points) in seventh house matters.

> Mars removes delay, but this is boxing Yoga so one's attitude is

not right.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> -

> "gulabo_jain" <gulabo_jain>

> <vedic astrology>

> Monday, December 19, 2005 11:20 AM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Saturn Mars combination .

>

> What are the effects of Saturn-Mars in 7th house for Scorpio Acs.

>

> Gulabo

>

> vedic astrology, "Rafal Gendarz"

> <starsuponme@w...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Anand, Akbar,

> >

> > Sani and Mars is Unmada Yoga, it is strict when Sani is in first

> and Mars is

> > in seventh according to Varahamihira. In Lagna it affects Prana

> and problem

> > with intelligence/decision can come.

> > It can also indicate adoption if influence ninth from concerned

> Upapada.

> >

> > Regards

> > Rafal Gendarz

> >

> > -

> > "Anan" <synetics@r...>

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Monday, December 19, 2005 10:04 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Saturn Mars combination .

> >

> > >

> > > Dear Akbar ,

> > >

> > > Saturn Mars together means problems in relationships and extreme

> behaviour

> > > patten . If in lagna , it means trouble in settling issues with

> the self.

> > > Sometimes the person will take up causes only to do U turn

> later .

> > > Wavering

> > > mind . However as Mars begins to wane , the person may take up

> causes

> > > after

> > > due diligence and see them to fructification .

> > >

> > > Regards ,

> > >

> > > Anand

> > >

> > > A. K. Ghurye

> > > Mobile : 9820 489 416 Phone : 2842 2768 email : hmm_aha

> > >

> > > -------------------------------

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> -----------

> > > --------------------------------

> > > § Training § Development §

Relationships

> > >

> > > email : hmm_aha

> > > growthanddevelopment

> > >

> > > Saturdaybusinessclub

> > >

> > > http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Ghurye1.html

> > >

> > > -------------------------------

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> -----------

> > > --------------------------------

> > >

> > > -

> > > Emperor Akbar <akbarbadushah>

> > > <vedic astrology>

> > > Cc: <akbarbadushah>

> > > Friday, November 25, 2005 11:00 PM

> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Digest Number 3576

> > >

> > >> Dear Astrologers,

> > >>

> > >> I read a good article on Saturn - Mars combination in

> lagna /involving

> > > lagna lord. This is one of the very difficult combinations next

> only to

> > > sun-saturn.

> > >> However it is amazing to note this combination in great

> achievers..

> > >> For example, though this combination brings misfortune and

> difficult

> > > circumstances in life, it is typically strong in

providing 'Well-

> targetted

> > > focus and energy' . Please note Mars is exalted in Saturn's

> house

> > > capricorn.

> > >> A saturn-mars combo with Lagna lord in one of Taurus, Libra

> and

> > > Capricorn houses can result in the following;

> > >> 'You are very serious about reaching your goals and feel that

> keeping

> > > your nose to the grindstone is the only way to do it. Hard work,

> > > persistent

> > > effort, and concentration upon a single objective are the ways

> you achieve

> > > your aims in life. You exercise great self-control, even self-

> denial, in

> > > order to accomplish what you desire. You meet obstacles

> stoically and will

> > > struggle patiently through difficult circumstances. You feel

> that you must

> > > rely on yourself alone, that it's all on your shoulders, and you

> can be a

> > > harsh disciplinarian, expecting far too much from yourself and

> others.

> > > Often

> > > you hold yourself back, doubting your own power and ability. You

> may feel

> > > that you meet great resistance whenever you try to assert

> yourself or take

> > > initiative, and that is very frustrating to you. However, you

> have the

> > > power

> > > of endurance and a dogged determination to overcome all

> obstacles.'

> > >>

> > >> Any interesting thoughts on the above is welcome. Any

> thoughts

> > >> planetary

> > > combinations are welcome as they are vital in professional

> predictive

> > > astrology.

> > >>

> > >> Regards

> > >> Akbar

> > >> >

> > >

> > > Group info: vedic-

> astrology/info.html

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December 20, 2005

results if it is placed in 12th house for sameascendant.Thanks and

RegardsTarun.vedic astrology, "Rafal

Gendarz"<starsuponme@w...> wrote:>> Dear Gulabo,>> It can indicate crazy

situation / partner (must be corrected withother> points) in seventh house

matters.> Mars removes delay, but this is boxing Yoga so one's attitude isnot

right.>> Regards> Rafal Gendarz>> - >

"gulabo_jain" <gulabo_jain>> <vedic astrology>> Sent:

Monday, December 19, 2005 11:20 AM> [vedic astrology] Re: Saturn Mars

combination .>>> What are the effects of Saturn-Mars in 7th house for Scorpio

Acs.>> Gulabo>>> vedic astrology, "Rafal Gendarz">

<starsuponme@w...> wrote:>

>> > Dear Anand, Akbar,> >> > Sani and Mars is Unmada Yoga, it is strict when

Sani is in first> and Mars is> > in seventh according to Varahamihira. In Lagna

it affects Prana> and problem> > with intelligence/decision can come.> > It can

also indicate adoption if influence ninth from concerned> Upapada.> >> >

Regards> > Rafal Gendarz> >> >> > - > > "Anan"

<synetics@r...>> > <vedic astrology>> > Monday,

December 19, 2005 10:04 AM> > [vedic astrology] Saturn Mars

combination .> >> >> > >> > > Dear Akbar ,> > >> > > Saturn Mars together means

problems in relationships and extreme> behaviour> > > patten . If in lagna , it

means trouble

in settling issues with> the self.> > > Sometimes the person will take up causes

only to do U turn> later .> > > Wavering> > > mind . However as Mars begins to

wane , the person may take up> causes> > > after> > > due diligence and see

them to fructification .> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Regards ,> > >> > >

Anand> > >> > > A. K. Ghurye> > > Mobile : 9820 489 416 Phone : 2842 2768

email : hmm_aha> > >> > >

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Emperor Akbar <akbarbadushah>> > > To:

<vedic astrology>> > > Cc:

<akbarbadushah>> > > Friday, November 25, 2005 11:00 PM> > > Subject:

Re: [vedic astrology] Digest Number 3576> > >> > >> > >> Dear Astrologers,> >

>>> > >> I read a good article on Saturn - Mars combination in> lagna

/involving> > > lagna lord. This is one of the very difficult combinations

next> only to> > > sun-saturn.> > >> However it is amazing to note this

combination in great> achievers..> > >> For example, though this combination

brings misfortune and> difficult> > > circumstances in life, it is typically

strong inproviding 'Well-> targetted> > > focus and energy' . Please note Mars

is exalted in Saturn's> house> > > capricorn.> > >> A saturn-mars combo

with Lagna lord in one of Taurus, Libra> and> > > Capricorn houses can result in

the following;> > >> 'You are very serious about reaching your goals and feel

that> keeping> > > your nose to the grindstone is the only way to do it. Hard

work,> > > persistent> > > effort, and concentration upon a single objective

are the ways> you achieve> > > your aims in life. You exercise great

self-control, even self-> denial, in> > > order to accomplish what you desire.

You meet obstacles> stoically and will> > > struggle patiently through

difficult circumstances. You feel> that you must> > > rely on yourself alone,

that it's all on your shoulders, and you> can be a> > > harsh disciplinarian,

expecting far too much from yourself and> others.> > > Often> > > you hold

yourself back, doubting your own power and ability. You> may feel> > > that you

meet great resistance whenever you try to assert> yourself or take> > >

initiative, and that is very frustrating to you. However, you> have the> > >

power> > > of endurance and a dogged determination to overcome all>

obstacles.'> > >>> > >> Any interesting thoughts on the above is welcome.

Any> thoughts> > >> planetary> > > combinations are welcome as they are vital

in professional> predictive> > > astrology.> > >>> > >> Regards> > >>

Akbar> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Archives:

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It is not correct.

Conjunction/Aspect between kendra-kona lords always constitutes a

raja yoga, and the strength of the yoga is determined based on the

factors like in which houses/signs such aspect/conjunction is

occuring and what other planets are associated with them. But they

still constitute the raja yoga.

Satya

vedic astrology, ramesh mishra

<aarceemastro2002> wrote:

>

> Dear Rafal, Namaskar,

> Though Mars and Saturn are constituting kendra and trikone lords.

It will not be called Raj yoga because both the planets are enemy to

each other. What do you say?

> Thanks and regards,

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@w...> wrote:

> Dear Tarun,

>

> Yes. Its Laxmi-Narayana Yoga (Kona+Kendra).

> It can fructify in foreign country.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> -

> "~ Tarun ~" <tarun.virgo@g...>

> <vedic astrology>

> Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:32 AM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Saturn Mars combination .( RAJ

YOGA ???)

>

> Dear Rafal ji,

>

> i wish to ask that for libra ascendant person will saturn+mars

> combination prove to be a Raj yoga?

>

> and what will be its results if it is placed in 12th house for same

> ascendant.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Tarun.

>

> vedic astrology, "Rafal Gendarz"

> <starsuponme@w...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gulabo,

> >

> > It can indicate crazy situation / partner (must be corrected with

> other

> > points) in seventh house matters.

> > Mars removes delay, but this is boxing Yoga so one's attitude is

> not right.

> >

> > Regards

> > Rafal Gendarz

> >

> > -

> > "gulabo_jain" <gulabo_jain>

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Monday, December 19, 2005 11:20 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Saturn Mars combination .

> >

> > What are the effects of Saturn-Mars in 7th house for Scorpio Acs.

> >

> > Gulabo

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Rafal Gendarz"

> > <starsuponme@w...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Anand, Akbar,

> > >

> > > Sani and Mars is Unmada Yoga, it is strict when Sani is in first

> > and Mars is

> > > in seventh according to Varahamihira. In Lagna it affects Prana

> > and problem

> > > with intelligence/decision can come.

> > > It can also indicate adoption if influence ninth from concerned

> > Upapada.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > >

> > > -

> > > "Anan" <synetics@r...>

> > > <vedic astrology>

> > > Monday, December 19, 2005 10:04 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Saturn Mars combination .

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Akbar ,

> > > >

> > > > Saturn Mars together means problems in relationships and

extreme

> > behaviour

> > > > patten . If in lagna , it means trouble in settling issues

with

> > the self.

> > > > Sometimes the person will take up causes only to do U turn

> > later .

> > > > Wavering

> > > > mind . However as Mars begins to wane , the person may take up

> > causes

> > > > after

> > > > due diligence and see them to fructification .

> > > >

> > > > Regards ,

> > > >

> > > > Anand

> > > >

> > > > A. K. Ghurye

> > > > Mobile : 9820 489 416 Phone : 2842 2768 email : hmm_aha

> > > >

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> Relationships

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> > > > email : hmm_aha

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> > > > Saturdaybusinessclub

> > > >

> > > > http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Ghurye1.html

> > > >

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> > > > Emperor Akbar <akbarbadushah>

> > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > Cc: <akbarbadushah>

> > > > Friday, November 25, 2005 11:00 PM

> > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Digest Number 3576

> > > >

> > > >> Dear Astrologers,

> > > >>

> > > >> I read a good article on Saturn - Mars combination in

> > lagna /involving

> > > > lagna lord. This is one of the very difficult combinations

> > > > sun-saturn.

> > > >> However it is amazing to note this combination in great

> > achievers..

> > > >> For example, though this combination brings misfortune and

> > difficult

> > > > circumstances in life, it is typically strong in

> providing 'Well-

> > targetted

> > > > focus and energy' . Please note Mars is exalted in Saturn's

> > house

> > > > capricorn.

> > > >> A saturn-mars combo with Lagna lord in one of Taurus, Libra

> > and

> > > > Capricorn houses can result in the following;

> > > >> 'You are very serious about reaching your goals and feel

that

> > keeping

> > > > your nose to the grindstone is the only way to do it. Hard

work,

> > > > persistent

> > > > effort, and concentration upon a single objective are the ways

> > you achieve

> > > > your aims in life. You exercise great self-control, even self-

> > denial, in

> > > > order to accomplish what you desire. You meet obstacles

> > stoically and will

> > > > struggle patiently through difficult circumstances. You feel

> > that you must

> > > > rely on yourself alone, that it's all on your shoulders, and

you

> > can be a

> > > > harsh disciplinarian, expecting far too much from yourself and

> > others.

> > > > Often

> > > > you hold yourself back, doubting your own power and ability.

You

> > may feel

> > > > that you meet great resistance whenever you try to assert

> > yourself or take

> > > > initiative, and that is very frustrating to you. However, you

> > have the

> > > > power

> > > > of endurance and a dogged determination to overcome all

> > obstacles.'

> > > >>

> > > >> Any interesting thoughts on the above is welcome. Any

> > thoughts

> > > >> planetary

> > > > combinations are welcome as they are vital in professional

> > predictive

> > > > astrology.

> > > >>

> > > >> Regards

> > > >> Akbar

> > > >> >

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Dear Rafal ji,

I have been going through the discussion on Mars Saturn combination

in the horoscope with great deal of interest.

In my experience I have noticed that such a combination will create

somekind of difficult experiences in life depending on the placement

and aspects to the combination.

If it is of any help to the students of astrology, I can give an

illustrative example from my own horoscope (purely for academic

purposes).

I have Leo lagna with Mars, Saturn and Rahu all three placed in 11th

house. Note that this is an Upchaya sthan.

This combination receives the aspect of Vargottam Jupiter from the

3rd house.

Jupiter aspects Saturn, Mars and Rahu without anyone of them

returning the aspect. Thus the combination receives the benefic

aspect of Jupiter without Jupiter being spoiled by the aspect of

the malefics.

The propensity to do evil is thus under check.

However this does not fully alleviate the malefic effects. Becuase

this combination occurs in 11th house I have no older siblings, have

difficulty making friends and am an introvert.

Have passed through the dasas of Mars (very good), Rahu(good), and

am presently going through Saturn dasa.

Been under the surgeons knife a number of times in Rahu dasa but not

for any life threatening causes.

As far as the UNMAD yoga is concerned well wavering mind could be a

condition because I tend to take long to come to any decisions.

Being an introvert could also perhaps be attributed to this yoga.

-- In vedic astrology, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme@w...> wrote:

>

> Dear Tarun,

>

> Yes. Its Laxmi-Narayana Yoga (Kona+Kendra).

> It can fructify in foreign country.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> -

> "~ Tarun ~" <tarun.virgo@g...>

> <vedic astrology>

> Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:32 AM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Saturn Mars combination .( RAJ

YOGA ???)

>

> Dear Rafal ji,

>

> i wish to ask that for libra ascendant person will saturn+mars

> combination prove to be a Raj yoga?

>

> and what will be its results if it is placed in 12th house for same

> ascendant.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Tarun.

>

> vedic astrology, "Rafal Gendarz"

> <starsuponme@w...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gulabo,

> >

> > It can indicate crazy situation / partner (must be corrected with

> other

> > points) in seventh house matters.

> > Mars removes delay, but this is boxing Yoga so one's attitude is

> not right.

> >

> > Regards

> > Rafal Gendarz

> >

> > -

> > "gulabo_jain" <gulabo_jain>

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Monday, December 19, 2005 11:20 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Saturn Mars combination .

> >

> > What are the effects of Saturn-Mars in 7th house for Scorpio Acs.

> >

> > Gulabo

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Rafal Gendarz"

> > <starsuponme@w...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Anand, Akbar,

> > >

> > > Sani and Mars is Unmada Yoga, it is strict when Sani is in

first

> > and Mars is

> > > in seventh according to Varahamihira. In Lagna it affects Prana

> > and problem

> > > with intelligence/decision can come.

> > > It can also indicate adoption if influence ninth from concerned

> > Upapada.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > >

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> > > "Anan" <synetics@r...>

> > > <vedic astrology>

> > > Monday, December 19, 2005 10:04 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Saturn Mars combination .

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Akbar ,

> > > >

> > > > Saturn Mars together means problems in relationships and

extreme

> > behaviour

> > > > patten . If in lagna , it means trouble in settling issues

with

> > the self.

> > > > Sometimes the person will take up causes only to do U turn

> > later .

> > > > Wavering

> > > > mind . However as Mars begins to wane , the person may take

up

> > causes

> > > > after

> > > > due diligence and see them to fructification .

> > > >

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> > > > Friday, November 25, 2005 11:00 PM

> > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Digest Number 3576

> > > >

> > > >> Dear Astrologers,

> > > >>

> > > >> I read a good article on Saturn - Mars combination in

> > lagna /involving

> > > > lagna lord. This is one of the very difficult combinations

> > > > sun-saturn.

> > > >> However it is amazing to note this combination in great

> > achievers..

> > > >> For example, though this combination brings misfortune and

> > difficult

> > > > circumstances in life, it is typically strong in

> providing 'Well-

> > targetted

> > > > focus and energy' . Please note Mars is exalted in Saturn's

> > house

> > > > capricorn.

> > > >> A saturn-mars combo with Lagna lord in one of Taurus,

Libra

> > and

> > > > Capricorn houses can result in the following;

> > > >> 'You are very serious about reaching your goals and feel

that

> > keeping

> > > > your nose to the grindstone is the only way to do it. Hard

work,

> > > > persistent

> > > > effort, and concentration upon a single objective are the

ways

> > you achieve

> > > > your aims in life. You exercise great self-control, even

self-

> > denial, in

> > > > order to accomplish what you desire. You meet obstacles

> > stoically and will

> > > > struggle patiently through difficult circumstances. You feel

> > that you must

> > > > rely on yourself alone, that it's all on your shoulders, and

you

> > can be a

> > > > harsh disciplinarian, expecting far too much from yourself

and

> > others.

> > > > Often

> > > > you hold yourself back, doubting your own power and ability.

You

> > may feel

> > > > that you meet great resistance whenever you try to assert

> > yourself or take

> > > > initiative, and that is very frustrating to you. However, you

> > have the

> > > > power

> > > > of endurance and a dogged determination to overcome all

> > obstacles.'

> > > >>

> > > >> Any interesting thoughts on the above is welcome. Any

> > thoughts

> > > >> planetary

> > > > combinations are welcome as they are vital in professional

> > predictive

> > > > astrology.

> > > >>

> > > >> Regards

> > > >> Akbar

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Hi,

I have read in one of the classics that for Makara lagna, the

conjuction of Mars and Saturn in the 7th and Moon in Lagnam, i.e.,

for natives with Raashi and Lagna as makara, and saturn and mars

conjunct in Cancer(7th house) signifies a very sound Raja yoga. Such

a person is likely to find an beautiful sweet natured and wealthy

wife.

However this could lead to a delay in marriage due to parivartana

between lagna and 7th Lords.

How true/significant are the above statements?

vedic astrology, "Satya Sai Kolachina"

<skolachi@h...> wrote:

>

> It is not correct.

>

> Conjunction/Aspect between kendra-kona lords always constitutes a

> raja yoga, and the strength of the yoga is determined based on the

> factors like in which houses/signs such aspect/conjunction is

> occuring and what other planets are associated with them. But they

> still constitute the raja yoga.

>

> Satya

>

> vedic astrology, ramesh mishra

> <aarceemastro2002> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar,

> > Though Mars and Saturn are constituting kendra and trikone

lords.

> It will not be called Raj yoga because both the planets are enemy

to

> each other. What do you say?

> > Thanks and regards,

> > Ramesh Mishra

> >

> > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@w...> wrote:

> > Dear Tarun,

> >

> > Yes. Its Laxmi-Narayana Yoga (Kona+Kendra).

> > It can fructify in foreign country.

> >

> > Regards

> > Rafal Gendarz

> >

> > -

> > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun.virgo@g...>

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:32 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Saturn Mars combination .( RAJ

> YOGA ???)

> >

> > Dear Rafal ji,

> >

> > i wish to ask that for libra ascendant person will saturn+mars

> > combination prove to be a Raj yoga?

> >

> > and what will be its results if it is placed in 12th house for

same

> > ascendant.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Tarun.

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Rafal Gendarz"

> > <starsuponme@w...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Gulabo,

> > >

> > > It can indicate crazy situation / partner (must be corrected

with

> > other

> > > points) in seventh house matters.

> > > Mars removes delay, but this is boxing Yoga so one's attitude

is

> > not right.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > >

> > > -

> > > "gulabo_jain" <gulabo_jain>

> > > <vedic astrology>

> > > Monday, December 19, 2005 11:20 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Saturn Mars combination .

> > >

> > > What are the effects of Saturn-Mars in 7th house for Scorpio

Acs.

> > >

> > > Gulabo

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Rafal Gendarz"

> > > <starsuponme@w...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Anand, Akbar,

> > > >

> > > > Sani and Mars is Unmada Yoga, it is strict when Sani is in

first

> > > and Mars is

> > > > in seventh according to Varahamihira. In Lagna it affects

Prana

> > > and problem

> > > > with intelligence/decision can come.

> > > > It can also indicate adoption if influence ninth from

concerned

> > > Upapada.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > "Anan" <synetics@r...>

> > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > Monday, December 19, 2005 10:04 AM

> > > > [vedic astrology] Saturn Mars combination .

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Akbar ,

> > > > >

> > > > > Saturn Mars together means problems in relationships and

> extreme

> > > behaviour

> > > > > patten . If in lagna , it means trouble in settling issues

> with

> > > the self.

> > > > > Sometimes the person will take up causes only to do U turn

> > > later .

> > > > > Wavering

> > > > > mind . However as Mars begins to wane , the person may

take up

> > > causes

> > > > > after

> > > > > due diligence and see them to fructification .

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards ,

> > > > >

> > > > > Anand

> > > > >

> > > > > A. K. Ghurye

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> > > > > Friday, November 25, 2005 11:00 PM

> > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Digest Number 3576

> > > > >

> > > > >> Dear Astrologers,

> > > > >>

> > > > >> I read a good article on Saturn - Mars combination in

> > > lagna /involving

> > > > > lagna lord. This is one of the very difficult combinations

> next

> > > only to

> > > > > sun-saturn.

> > > > >> However it is amazing to note this combination in great

> > > achievers..

> > > > >> For example, though this combination brings misfortune

and

> > > difficult

> > > > > circumstances in life, it is typically strong in

> > providing 'Well-

> > > targetted

> > > > > focus and energy' . Please note Mars is exalted in Saturn's

> > > house

> > > > > capricorn.

> > > > >> A saturn-mars combo with Lagna lord in one of Taurus,

Libra

> > > and

> > > > > Capricorn houses can result in the following;

> > > > >> 'You are very serious about reaching your goals and

feel

> that

> > > keeping

> > > > > your nose to the grindstone is the only way to do it. Hard

> work,

> > > > > persistent

> > > > > effort, and concentration upon a single objective are the

ways

> > > you achieve

> > > > > your aims in life. You exercise great self-control, even

self-

> > > denial, in

> > > > > order to accomplish what you desire. You meet obstacles

> > > stoically and will

> > > > > struggle patiently through difficult circumstances. You

feel

> > > that you must

> > > > > rely on yourself alone, that it's all on your shoulders,

and

> you

> > > can be a

> > > > > harsh disciplinarian, expecting far too much from yourself

and

> > > others.

> > > > > Often

> > > > > you hold yourself back, doubting your own power and

ability.

> You

> > > may feel

> > > > > that you meet great resistance whenever you try to assert

> > > yourself or take

> > > > > initiative, and that is very frustrating to you. However,

you

> > > have the

> > > > > power

> > > > > of endurance and a dogged determination to overcome all

> > > obstacles.'

> > > > >>

> > > > >> Any interesting thoughts on the above is welcome. Any

> > > thoughts

> > > > >> planetary

> > > > > combinations are welcome as they are vital in professional

> > > predictive

> > > > > astrology.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> Regards

> > > > >> Akbar

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with Mars, Saturn and Rahu all three placed in 11th house. Note that this is an

Upchaya sthan.This combination receives the aspect of Vargottam Jupiter from

the 3rd house.Jupiter aspects Saturn, Mars and Rahu without anyone of them

returning the aspect. Thus the combination receives the benefic aspect of

Jupiter without Jupiter being spoiled by the aspect of the malefics.The

propensity to do evil is thus under check.However this does not fully alleviate

the malefic effects. Becuase this combination occurs in 11th house I have no

older siblings, have difficulty making friends and am an introvert.Have passed

through the dasas of Mars (very good), Rahu(good), and am presently going

through Saturn dasa.Been under the surgeons knife a number of times in Rahu

dasa but not for any life threatening causes.As far as the UNMAD yoga is

concerned well wavering mind could be a condition because I tend to

take long to come to any decisions. Being an introvert could also perhaps be

attributed to this yoga.-- In vedic astrology, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme@w...> wrote:>> Dear Tarun,> > Yes. Its Laxmi-Narayana Yoga

(Kona+Kendra).> It can fructify in foreign country.> > Regards> Rafal Gendarz>

> > - > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun.virgo@g...>> To:

<vedic astrology>> Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:32 AM>

[vedic astrology] Re: Saturn Mars combination .( RAJ YOGA ???)> > >

Dear Rafal ji,> > i wish to ask that for libra ascendant person will

saturn+mars> combination prove to be a Raj yoga?> > and what will be its

results if it is placed in 12th house for same> ascendant.> > Thanks and

Regards>

Tarun.> > vedic astrology, "Rafal Gendarz">

<starsuponme@w...> wrote:> >> > Dear Gulabo,> >> > It can indicate crazy

situation / partner (must be corrected with> other> > points) in seventh house

matters.> > Mars removes delay, but this is boxing Yoga so one's attitude is>

not right.> >> > Regards> > Rafal Gendarz> >> > - >

> "gulabo_jain" <gulabo_jain>> > To:

<vedic astrology>> > Monday, December 19, 2005 11:20 AM>

> [vedic astrology] Re: Saturn Mars combination .> >> >> > What are

the effects of Saturn-Mars in 7th house for Scorpio Acs.> >> > Gulabo> >> >> >

vedic astrology, "Rafal

Gendarz"> > <starsuponme@w...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Anand, Akbar,> > >> > >

Sani and Mars is Unmada Yoga, it is strict when Sani is in first> > and Mars

is> > > in seventh according to Varahamihira. In Lagna it affects Prana> > and

problem> > > with intelligence/decision can come.> > > It can also indicate

adoption if influence ninth from concerned> > Upapada.> > >> > > Regards> > >

Rafal Gendarz> > >> > >> > > - > > > "Anan"

<synetics@r...>> > > <vedic astrology>> > > Monday,

December 19, 2005 10:04 AM> > > [vedic astrology] Saturn Mars

combination .> > >> > >> > > >> > > > Dear

Akbar ,> > > >> > > > Saturn Mars together means problems in relationships and

extreme> > behaviour> > > > patten . If in lagna , it means trouble in settling

issues with> > the self.> > > > Sometimes the person will take up causes only to

do U turn> > later .> > > > Wavering> > > > mind . However as Mars begins to

wane , the person may take up> > causes> > > > after> > > > due diligence and

see them to fructification .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >

Regards ,> > > >> > > > Anand> > > >> > > > A. K. Ghurye> > > > Mobile : 9820

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Friday, November 25, 2005 11:00 PM> > > > Re: [vedic astrology]

Digest Number 3576> > > >> > > >> > > >> Dear Astrologers,> > > >>> > > >> I

read a good article on Saturn - Mars combination in> > lagna /involving> > > >

lagna lord. This is one of the very difficult combinations next> > only to> > >

> sun-saturn.> > > >>

However it is amazing to note this combination in great> > achievers..> > > >>

For example, though this combination brings misfortune and> > difficult> > > >

circumstances in life, it is typically strong in> providing 'Well-> >

targetted> > > > focus and energy' . Please note Mars is exalted in Saturn's> >

house> > > > capricorn.> > > >> A saturn-mars combo with Lagna lord in one of

Taurus, Libra> > and> > > > Capricorn houses can result in the following;> > >

>> 'You are very serious about reaching your goals and feel that> > keeping>

> > > your nose to the grindstone is the only way to do it. Hard work,> > > >

persistent> > > > effort, and concentration upon a single objective are the

ways>

> you achieve> > > > your aims in life. You exercise great self-control, even

self-> > denial, in> > > > order to accomplish what you desire. You meet

obstacles> > stoically and will> > > > struggle patiently through difficult

circumstances. You feel> > that you must> > > > rely on yourself alone, that

it's all on your shoulders, and you> > can be a> > > > harsh disciplinarian,

expecting far too much from yourself and> > others.> > > > Often> > > > you

hold yourself back, doubting your own power and ability. You> > may feel> > > >

that you meet great resistance whenever you try to assert> > yourself or take> >

> > initiative, and that is very frustrating to you. However, you> > have the> >

> > power> > > > of

endurance and a dogged determination to overcome all> > obstacles.'> > > >>> > >

>> Any interesting thoughts on the above is welcome. Any> > thoughts> > > >>

planetary> > > > combinations are welcome as they are vital in professional> >

predictive> > > > astrology.> > > >>> > > >> Regards> > > >> Akbar> > > >>

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Namaste,

The 11th also can show bad habits as it's 6th from 6th. The 6 bad

habits are kaama, krodha, lobha, moha, mada, & matsarya.

See if you have any of the bad habits denoted by Saturn, Rahu or Mars.

Warm Regards,

Sanjay

On 12/20/05, ennaye <ennaye > wrote:

-

Dear Rafal ji,

I have been going through the discussion on Mars Saturn combination

in the horoscope with great deal of interest.

In my experience I have noticed that such a combination will create

somekind of difficult experiences in life depending on the placement

and aspects to the combination.

If it is of any help to the students of astrology, I can give an

illustrative example from my own horoscope (purely for academic

purposes).

I have Leo lagna with Mars, Saturn and Rahu all three placed in 11th

house. Note that this is an Upchaya sthan.

This combination receives the aspect of Vargottam Jupiter from the

3rd house.

Jupiter aspects Saturn, Mars and Rahu without anyone of them

returning the aspect. Thus the combination receives the benefic

aspect of Jupiter without Jupiter being spoiled by the aspect of

the malefics.

The propensity to do evil is thus under check.

However this does not fully alleviate the malefic effects. Becuase

this combination occurs in 11th house I have no older siblings, have

difficulty making friends and am an introvert.

Have passed through the dasas of Mars (very good), Rahu(good), and

am presently going through Saturn dasa.

Been under the surgeons knife a number of times in Rahu dasa but not

for any life threatening causes.

As far as the UNMAD yoga is concerned well wavering mind could be a

condition because I tend to take long to come to any decisions.

Being an introvert could also perhaps be attributed to this yoga.

-- In vedic astrology, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme@w...> wrote:

>

> Dear Tarun,

>

> Yes. Its Laxmi-Narayana Yoga (Kona+Kendra).

> It can fructify in foreign country.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> -

> "~ Tarun ~" <tarun.virgo@g...>

> <vedic astrology>

> Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:32 AM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Saturn Mars combination .( RAJ

YOGA ???)

>

> Dear Rafal ji,

>

> i wish to ask that for libra ascendant person will saturn+mars

> combination prove to be a Raj yoga?

>

> and what will be its results if it is placed in 12th house for same

> ascendant.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Tarun.

>

> vedic astrology, "Rafal Gendarz"

> <starsuponme@w...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gulabo,

> >

> > It can indicate crazy situation / partner (must be corrected with

> other

> > points) in seventh house matters.

> > Mars removes delay, but this is boxing Yoga so one's attitude is

> not right.

> >

> > Regards

> > Rafal Gendarz

> >

> > -

> > "gulabo_jain" <gulabo_jain>

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Monday, December 19, 2005 11:20 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Saturn Mars combination .

> >

> > What are the effects of Saturn-Mars in 7th house for Scorpio Acs.

> >

> > Gulabo

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Rafal Gendarz"

> > <starsuponme@w...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Anand, Akbar,

> > >

> > > Sani and Mars is Unmada Yoga, it is strict when Sani is in

first

> > and Mars is

> > > in seventh according to Varahamihira. In Lagna it affects Prana

> > and problem

> > > with intelligence/decision can come.

> > > It can also indicate adoption if influence ninth from concerned

> > Upapada.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > >

> > > -

> > > "Anan" <synetics@r...>

> > > <vedic astrology>

> > > Monday, December 19, 2005 10:04 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Saturn Mars combination .

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Akbar ,

> > > >

> > > > Saturn Mars together means problems in relationships and

extreme

> > behaviour

> > > > patten . If in lagna , it means trouble in settling issues

with

> > the self.

> > > > Sometimes the person will take up causes only to do U turn

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> > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Digest Number 3576

> > > >

> > > >> Dear Astrologers,

> > > >>

> > > >> I read a good article on Saturn - Mars combination in

> > lagna /involving

> > > > lagna lord. This is one of the very difficult combinations

> > > > sun-saturn.

> > > >> However it is amazing to note this combination in great

> > achievers..

> > > >> For example, though this combination brings misfortune and

> > difficult

> > > > circumstances in life, it is typically strong in

> providing 'Well-

> > targetted

> > > > focus and energy' . Please note Mars is exalted in Saturn's

> > house

> > > > capricorn.

> > > >> A saturn-mars combo with Lagna lord in one of Taurus,

Libra

> > and

> > > > Capricorn houses can result in the following;

> > > >> 'You are very serious about reaching your goals and feel

that

> > keeping

> > > > your nose to the grindstone is the only way to do it. Hard

work,

> > > > persistent

> > > > effort, and concentration upon a single objective are the

ways

> > you achieve

> > > > your aims in life. You exercise great self-control, even

self-

> > denial, in

> > > > order to accomplish what you desire. You meet obstacles

> > stoically and will

> > > > struggle patiently through difficult circumstances. You feel

> > that you must

> > > > rely on yourself alone, that it's all on your shoulders, and

you

> > can be a

> > > > harsh disciplinarian, expecting far too much from yourself

and

> > others.

> > > > Often

> > > > you hold yourself back, doubting your own power and ability.

You

> > may feel

> > > > that you meet great resistance whenever you try to assert

> > yourself or take

> > > > initiative, and that is very frustrating to you. However, you

> > have the

> > > > power

> > > > of endurance and a dogged determination to overcome all

> > obstacles.'

> > > >>

> > > >> Any interesting thoughts on the above is welcome. Any

> > thoughts

> > > >> planetary

> > > > combinations are welcome as they are vital in professional

> > predictive

> > > > astrology.

> > > >>

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Hi!

Normally, anyone having a first look at my horoscope would say about

it what you have said regarding bad habits.

But I have none of those bad habits and have never had them.

Academically in my time have been the Univ topper. Am a post

graduate in Economics with interest in Astrology.

financially no problems. Family , by Gods' grace, no problem though

my parents passed through a tough period during my childhood. That

is the period when I was at the lowest ebb.

Starting dasa was of Lagna lord Sun posited in neech navamsa in 8th

house(Pisces) That probably accounts for early childhood problems.

Moon vargottama in 6th house was just about okay. I might say

average.

Thereafter, Dasas of Mars, Rahu, Jupiter have been very good.

Current dasa of Saturn has been good till now except for death of

father in Saturn/ Saturn.

A lot of good I would attribute to aspect of Jupiter to Mars, Saturn

and Rahu in 11th house.

It is said that malefics in Upchaya house give benefic results.

Except for lack of older brother/ sister no other bad effect.

Do you think a lot is due to the sequence of dasas experienced ?

>From the Moon sign I have Gajkesari yoga and vasumathi yoga, though

I think it is not all that great because houses involved are 6th and

3rd.

What I feel is that Mars Saturn combination does involve a certain

amount of hardship but aspect of a benefic like Jupiter can

alleviate the hardship to a large extent , also the placement of

this combination matters.

Regards,

ennaye

- In vedic astrology, Sanjay Prabhakaran

<sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:

>

> || Om Gurave Namah ||

> Namaste,

> The 11th also can show bad habits as it's 6th from 6th. The 6 bad

habits

> are kaama, krodha, lobha, moha, mada, & matsarya.

> See if you have any of the bad habits denoted by Saturn, Rahu or

Mars.

>

> Warm Regards,

> Sanjay

>

> On 12/20/05, ennaye <ennaye> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > Dear Rafal ji,

> >

> > I have been going through the discussion on Mars Saturn

combination

> > in the horoscope with great deal of interest.

> >

> > In my experience I have noticed that such a combination will

create

> > somekind of difficult experiences in life depending on the

placement

> > and aspects to the combination.

> >

> > If it is of any help to the students of astrology, I can give an

> > illustrative example from my own horoscope (purely for academic

> > purposes).

> >

> > I have Leo lagna with Mars, Saturn and Rahu all three placed in

11th

> > house. Note that this is an Upchaya sthan.

> > This combination receives the aspect of Vargottam Jupiter from

the

> > 3rd house.

> > Jupiter aspects Saturn, Mars and Rahu without anyone of them

> > returning the aspect. Thus the combination receives the benefic

> > aspect of Jupiter without Jupiter being spoiled by the aspect of

> > the malefics.

> >

> > The propensity to do evil is thus under check.

> >

> > However this does not fully alleviate the malefic effects.

Becuase

> > this combination occurs in 11th house I have no older siblings,

have

> > difficulty making friends and am an introvert.

> >

> > Have passed through the dasas of Mars (very good), Rahu(good),

and

> > am presently going through Saturn dasa.

> > Been under the surgeons knife a number of times in Rahu dasa but

not

> > for any life threatening causes.

> >

> > As far as the UNMAD yoga is concerned well wavering mind could

be a

> > condition because I tend to take long to come to any decisions.

> > Being an introvert could also perhaps be attributed to this yoga.

> >

> > -- In vedic astrology, "Rafal Gendarz"

> > <starsuponme@w...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Tarun,

> > >

> > > Yes. Its Laxmi-Narayana Yoga (Kona+Kendra).

> > > It can fructify in foreign country.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > >

> > > -

> > > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun.virgo@g...>

> > > <vedic astrology>

> > > Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:32 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Saturn Mars combination .( RAJ

> > YOGA ???)

> > >

> > > Dear Rafal ji,

> > >

> > > i wish to ask that for libra ascendant person will saturn+mars

> > > combination prove to be a Raj yoga?

> > >

> > > and what will be its results if it is placed in 12th house for

same

> > > ascendant.

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards

> > > Tarun.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Rafal Gendarz"

> > > <starsuponme@w...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Gulabo,

> > > >

> > > > It can indicate crazy situation / partner (must be corrected

with

> > > other

> > > > points) in seventh house matters.

> > > > Mars removes delay, but this is boxing Yoga so one's

attitude is

> > > not right.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > "gulabo_jain" <gulabo_jain>

> > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > Monday, December 19, 2005 11:20 AM

> > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Saturn Mars combination .

> > > >

> > > > What are the effects of Saturn-Mars in 7th house for Scorpio

Acs.

> > > >

> > > > Gulabo

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "Rafal Gendarz"

> > > > <starsuponme@w...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Anand, Akbar,

> > > > >

> > > > > Sani and Mars is Unmada Yoga, it is strict when Sani is in

> > first

> > > > and Mars is

> > > > > in seventh according to Varahamihira. In Lagna it affects

Prana

> > > > and problem

> > > > > with intelligence/decision can come.

> > > > > It can also indicate adoption if influence ninth from

concerned

> > > > Upapada.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > "Anan" <synetics@r...>

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> > > > > Monday, December 19, 2005 10:04 AM

> > > > > [vedic astrology] Saturn Mars combination .

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Akbar ,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Saturn Mars together means problems in relationships and

> > extreme

> > > > behaviour

> > > > > > patten . If in lagna , it means trouble in settling

issues

> > with

> > > > the self.

> > > > > > Sometimes the person will take up causes only to do U

turn

> > > > later .

> > > > > > Wavering

> > > > > > mind . However as Mars begins to wane , the person may

take

> > up

> > > > causes

> > > > > > after

> > > > > > due diligence and see them to fructification .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards ,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Anand

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A. K. Ghurye

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> > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Digest Number 3576

> > > > > >

> > > > > >> Dear Astrologers,

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> I read a good article on Saturn - Mars combination in

> > > > lagna /involving

> > > > > > lagna lord. This is one of the very difficult

combinations

> > next

> > > > only to

> > > > > > sun-saturn.

> > > > > >> However it is amazing to note this combination in

great

> > > > achievers..

> > > > > >> For example, though this combination brings

misfortune and

> > > > difficult

> > > > > > circumstances in life, it is typically strong in

> > > providing 'Well-

> > > > targetted

> > > > > > focus and energy' . Please note Mars is exalted in

Saturn's

> > > > house

> > > > > > capricorn.

> > > > > >> A saturn-mars combo with Lagna lord in one of Taurus,

> > Libra

> > > > and

> > > > > > Capricorn houses can result in the following;

> > > > > >> 'You are very serious about reaching your goals and

feel

> > that

> > > > keeping

> > > > > > your nose to the grindstone is the only way to do it.

Hard

> > work,

> > > > > > persistent

> > > > > > effort, and concentration upon a single objective are the

> > ways

> > > > you achieve

> > > > > > your aims in life. You exercise great self-control, even

> > self-

> > > > denial, in

> > > > > > order to accomplish what you desire. You meet obstacles

> > > > stoically and will

> > > > > > struggle patiently through difficult circumstances. You

feel

> > > > that you must

> > > > > > rely on yourself alone, that it's all on your shoulders,

and

> > you

> > > > can be a

> > > > > > harsh disciplinarian, expecting far too much from

yourself

> > and

> > > > others.

> > > > > > Often

> > > > > > you hold yourself back, doubting your own power and

ability.

> > You

> > > > may feel

> > > > > > that you meet great resistance whenever you try to assert

> > > > yourself or take

> > > > > > initiative, and that is very frustrating to you.

However, you

> > > > have the

> > > > > > power

> > > > > > of endurance and a dogged determination to overcome all

> > > > obstacles.'

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> Any interesting thoughts on the above is welcome. Any

> > > > thoughts

> > > > > >> planetary

> > > > > > combinations are welcome as they are vital in

professional

> > > > predictive

> > > > > > astrology.

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> Regards

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Lagnam, i.e., for natives with Raashi and Lagna as makara, and saturn and mars

conjunct in Cancer(7th house) signifies a very sound Raja yoga. Such a person

is likely to find an beautiful sweet natured and wealthy wife. However this

could lead to a delay in marriage due to parivartana between lagna and 7th

Lords. How true/significant are the above statements?--- In

vedic astrology, "Satya Sai Kolachina" <skolachi@h...> wrote:>>

It is not correct.> > Conjunction/Aspect between kendra-kona lords always

constitutes a > raja yoga, and the strength of the yoga is determined based on

the > factors like in which houses/signs such aspect/conjunction is > occuring

and what other planets are associated with them. But they > still constitute

the raja yoga.> > Satya> > vedic astrology, ramesh

mishra >

<aarceemastro2002> wrote:> >> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar,> > Though Mars and

Saturn are constituting kendra and trikone lords. > It will not be called Raj

yoga because both the planets are enemy to > each other. What do you say?> >

Thanks and regards,> > Ramesh Mishra> > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@w...>

wrote:> > Dear Tarun,> > > > Yes. Its Laxmi-Narayana Yoga (Kona+Kendra).> >

It can fructify in foreign country.> > > > Regards> > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > >

- > > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun.virgo@g...>> > To:

<vedic astrology>> > Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:32 AM>

> [vedic astrology] Re: Saturn Mars combination .( RAJ >

YOGA ???)> > > > > > Dear Rafal ji,> > > > i wish to ask that for libra

ascendant person will saturn+mars> > combination prove to be a Raj yoga?> > > >

and what will be its results if it is placed in 12th house for same> >

ascendant.> > > > Thanks and Regards> > Tarun.> > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "Rafal Gendarz"> > <starsuponme@w...> wrote:>

> >> > > Dear Gulabo,> > >> > > It can indicate crazy situation / partner (must

be corrected with> > other> > > points) in seventh house matters.> > > Mars

removes delay, but this is boxing Yoga so one's attitude is> > not right.> > >>

> > Regards> > > Rafal Gendarz> > >> > > ----- Original Message

----- > > > "gulabo_jain" <gulabo_jain>> > > To:

<vedic astrology>> > > Monday, December 19, 2005 11:20

AM> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Saturn Mars combination .> > >> > >> > >

What are the effects of Saturn-Mars in 7th house for Scorpio Acs.> > >> > >

Gulabo> > >> > >> > > vedic astrology, "Rafal Gendarz">

> > <starsuponme@w...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Anand, Akbar,> > > >> > > >

Sani and Mars is Unmada Yoga, it is strict when Sani is in first> > > and Mars

is> > > > in seventh according to Varahamihira. In Lagna it affects Prana> > >

and problem> > > > with intelligence/decision can come.> >

> > It can also indicate adoption if influence ninth from concerned> > >

Upapada.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > >> > > >> > > > -----

Original Message ----- > > > > "Anan" <synetics@r...>> > > > To:

<vedic astrology>> > > > Monday, December 19, 2005 10:04

AM> > > > [vedic astrology] Saturn Mars combination .> > > >> > > >> >

> > >> > > > > Dear Akbar ,> > > > >> > > > > Saturn Mars together means

problems in relationships and > extreme> > > behaviour> > > > > patten . If in

lagna , it means trouble in settling issues > with> > > the self.> > > > >

Sometimes the person will take up causes only to do U turn> > > later .> > > >

> Wavering> > > > > mind . However as Mars begins to wane , the person may take

up> > > causes> > > > > after> > > > > due diligence and see them to

fructification .> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >

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> Friday, November 25, 2005 11:00 PM> > > > > Re:

[vedic astrology] Digest Number 3576> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Dear

Astrologers,> > > > >>> > > > >> I read a good article on Saturn - Mars

combination in> > > lagna /involving> > > > > lagna lord. This is one of the

very difficult combinations > next> > > only to> > > > > sun-saturn.> > > > >>

However it is amazing to note this combination in great> > > achievers..> > > >

>> For example, though this combination brings misfortune and> > > difficult>

> > > > circumstances in life, it is typically strong in> > providing 'Well-> >

> targetted> > > > > focus and energy' . Please note Mars is exalted in

Saturn's> > > house> > > > > capricorn.> > > > >> A saturn-mars combo with

Lagna lord in one of Taurus, Libra> > > and> > > > > Capricorn houses can

result in the following;> > > > >> 'You are very serious about reaching your

goals and feel > that> > > keeping> > > > > your nose to the grindstone is the

only way to do it. Hard > work,> > > > >

persistent> > > > > effort, and concentration upon a single objective are the

ways> > > you achieve> > > > > your aims in life. You exercise great

self-control, even self-> > > denial, in> > > > > order to accomplish what you

desire. You meet obstacles> > > stoically and will> > > > > struggle patiently

through difficult circumstances. You feel> > > that you must> > > > > rely on

yourself alone, that it's all on your shoulders, and > you> > > can be a> > > >

> harsh disciplinarian, expecting far too much from yourself and> > > others.> >

> > > Often> > > > > you hold yourself back, doubting your own power and

ability. > You> > > may feel> > > > > that you meet great resistance whenever

you try to assert> > > yourself or take> > > > > initiative, and that is very

frustrating to you. However, you> > > have the> > > > > power> > > > > of

endurance and a dogged determination to overcome all> > > obstacles.'> > > >

>>> > > > >> Any interesting thoughts on the above is welcome. Any> > >

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