Guest guest Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Dear Sarbani ji, Rao ji, and all I was just going through the disucssion, and was really enlightened me a lot. This ongoing discussion has made me raise this question to all you members. Actually I have a Dancing Ganesha Photo, in my bedroom as well as in my Living room. Also a Pancha mukhi Photo Hanumam faces outside my entry door. My mother who regulary performs pooja, also shows Dhoop to the Ganesha and Hanuman Photos I mentioned, and all the photos are garlanded on Tuesday's( Ganpati day ) and Saturday ( Hanuman's day ). Here I am talking about photos which are not inside the Pooja room. The question I want to ask is whether this practice is OK, because the ongoing discussion has slighlty confused me. I hope if somebody can help me in this matter. Thanking You Buku vedic astrology, "Swee Chan" <swee@c...> wrote: > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Sarbani, > Namaste > > Thank you for pointing out the difference between a murti and a work of art. > However, might I suggest you place the picture of Durga in the NE corner of > the living room? This way, She faces the SW and crushes Rahu who is in your > 5th :-) (I hope this makes sense.) > > How was your trip? We've missed your contribution on our list. :-):-):-) Now > that you are back I really need to type out those names so you may help me > get down to the root of it all. > > Much love, > > Swee > > > > _____ > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar > Saturday, September 24, 2005 5:14 PM > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Dancing Ganesha > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > Dear Swee, > > Murtis are often kept in strategic positions in houses as they are > considered auspicious. These murtis and pictures are not worshipped and may > often be artistic in nature. This is a very common phenomenon in many homes > in India. Such murtis/pics are not offered flowers etc.neither are they > draped in clothes. For example beautiful sculptures or pictures of Ganesha > are often kept near the main door.Usually these murtis/pics are artistic and > ornamental and never kept in the altar. However placing them near the door > is considered that Ganesha is protecting the 'dwara' so that no obstacles or > evils 'come in'. Similarly people place beautiful sculptures and paintings > of deities in other parts of the house, like the sitting room. They are not > merely for ornamentation or art collection; neither are they for worship. > Their mere presence or placement is considered auspicious. The dancing > Ganesha is meant with a similar underlining intention. (you can ask Sanjayji > for further details of implications of this remedy). I will give you a small > example. I have a beautiful painting of Goddess Durga on a particular kind > of silk done by the pata chitras workers of Orissa. Its a beautiful piece of > craftsmanship. This is not meant for the altar but hangs in my bedroom. > Given that I dabble in jyotish, I moved the picture to the south western > wall. The south west is the direction of Niritti ruled by Rahu, and of the > deities associated with the node who can crush Rahu is Durga. Would you > consider this remedy? In this manner, art objects representing deities, > which are strictly not meant for the altar and hence not for worship, are > 'strategically' placed as their mere presence are considered auspicious or > fortunate. Hope this clarifies some of your doubts. > > Warmly, > > Sarbani > > > > _____ > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Swee Chan > Friday, September 23, 2005 4:04 PM > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Dancing Ganesha > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Sarbani and Raghunatha, > Namaste > > [i think, I have learnt some time ago that using this Ucchista > Ganapathy in the head side of the bed/bedroom will work as a > rememdy for maritial dishormony etc., Please correct me if my > understanding is not correct.] > > Regards > Raghunatha Rao > > Please refer to Sanjay ji's article: http://srath.com/mantra/ganesa2.htm > > Pardon my ignorance about keeping an image of His potencies without having > to perform any offerings. Not in any of the puranas have I come across this > suggestion. > > I would like to understand that there are variations of murtis: > The ones you keep for offering prayers to and the other is as a remedial > measure to help with marital disharmony without offerings???? What is your > reasoning/logic? > > Love, > > Swee > > > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Raghunatha RaoNemani > Thursday, September 22, 2005 8:58 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: Dancing Ganesha > > Om Krishna Guru > > Namaste Sarbani Ji, > > Thanks for the note and I know what you mean. I could not > stop laughing to myself, if some one thinks that we can keep > Such an idol in bedroom and worhisp them. I know that > Idols for worship and are kept only in the alter. > > I think, I have learnt some time ago that using this Ucchista > Ganapathy in the head side of the bed/bedroom will work as a > rememdy for maritial dishormony etc., Please correct me if my > understanding is not correct. > > Regards > Raghunatha Rao > > vedic astrology, "Sarbani Sarkar" > <sarbani@s...> wrote: > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > Dear Raghu, > > > > I think Swee is thinking that the 'dancing Ganesha next to the bed' > remedy > > is for worshipping; which is as you know, it is not. Idols for > worship are > > kept only in the alter. The way we have Ganesha near the main > entrance etc., > > which is not for worship, but is an auspicious placement. > Similarly, next to > > the bed for the particular remedy. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Sarbani > > > > _____ > > > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Raghunatha > RaoNemani > > Thursday, September 22, 2005 5:46 PM > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] Re: Dancing Ganesha > > > > > > Om Krishna Guru > > > > Namaste Swee Ji, > > > > Thanks for the note and details. Please clarify the following for > > my own leanring:- > > > > 1) Based on the text you have provided from the Linga Purana, > > I did not understood, where it was mentioned one can not > > Keep dancing form of Ganesh in the bed room ? > > > > 2) If my understanding is correct: The Deva Maata Aditi is the > > wife of Maharish Kashyapa and who was the mother of Devas like > > Indra, Surya etc. Even Lord Vishnu took his birth as VAMANA from > > Kashyapa Maharishi and Devaa Maata Aditi. But you have metnioned > that > > Diti (Daksha's daughter who was married to Kasyapa) is a mother of > > Daityas (the demonic sons). Are you refering to that Diti and Aditi > > are the same and she gave birth to devas and daitya's too? > > > > Please clarify my doubt and educate me. > > > > Regards > > Raghunatha Rao > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Swee Chan" <swee@c...> > wrote: > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > Dear Nitin, Raghunatha et al, > > > Namaste > > > > > > A boon requested by Brihaspati for protecting the Devas from the > > Daityas was > > > the appearance of Ganesh in his Dancing Form. > > > (Reference Linga Purana - Chapter 105 on The Origin of VinAyaka > > texts 4 - > > > 10. The dancing form Text 11) > > > > > > Text 18: O Lord (Ganeshwara), remove the vital breaths of men and > > women > > > fallen off from their castes and similarly do unto those who are > > devoid of > > > their duties. > > > > > > Text 26: Those people, those human beings who worship you are > > undoubtedly to > > > be worshipped by even Indra and others. > > > > > > Text 29-30: Ever since then, people worship Ganeshwara in this > > world. This > > > Ganeshwara created obstacles in the rituals of Daityas. > > > > > > Daityas: These are the demonic sons of Diti (Daksha's daughter > who > > was > > > married to Kasyapa). They could not die due to Shukra who was > > resuscitating > > > them and destroying the Devas. > > > > > > This is proof enough to suggest that He in that form should be > > worshipped > > > and NOT placed in a bedroom while Shukra denotes the anima/animus > > in humans. > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > notify [notify] On > > Behalf Of > > > Nitin > > > Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:36 AM > > > Swee Chan > > > Re: Dancing Ganesha > > > > > > ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| > > > > > > Dear Swee, Namaskaar. > > > > > > Why can't a dancing Ganesha (murti) be placed in the bedroom...? > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Nitin. > > > > > > || Namah Shivaaya || > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Swee Chan" <swee@c...> > > wrote: > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > Dear Tanvir, > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > You cannot place a murti in the bedroom. > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Raghunatha > > > RaoNemani > > > > Tuesday, September 20, 2005 10:52 PM > > > > vedic astrology > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Dancing Ganesha > > > > > > > > Om Krishna Guru > > > > > > > > Namste Tanvir and Sreelatha, > > > > > > > > That was a good explanation. One has to see and choose what is > > the > > > > purpose of choosing the dancing ganesa as a remedial purpose, > > such as > > > > marriage related (problems ) remedies. What I meant here is : > > some > > > > statues/pictures show Lord Ganesha's right leg raised and in > some > > > > left leg is raised, and also his trunk is pointed towards left > > side > > > > and in some right hand side etc., > > > > > > > > I will write a bit more on these different poses when I get > more > > time. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Raghunatha Rao > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Venkatarama Sreelatha" > > > > <venkatarama_sastry> wrote: > > > > > Sree Krishna Guru > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tanvir, > > > > > > > > > > Ganesha in a dancing mudra is said to bring happiness and > > harmony > > > > to > > > > > the married couple, and hence is kept at the head of the bed. > > This > > > > can > > > > > be kept in any other place as well, and is reputed to bring > > > > happiness > > > > > to that place / activities associated with that place. The > > theory > > > > is > > > > > that the Lord is pleased, and is dancing in joy, and hence > will > > > > bless > > > > > his surroundings with joy as well. > > > > > > > > > > Ultimately, of course, it is the devotion of the person... > the > > Lord > > > > is > > > > > always happy and ready to bless the devoted, and it is up to > us > > to > > > > make > > > > > that effort. > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > Venkatarama Sreelatha > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Tanvir" > > <ultimate@s...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone tell me if there is any special blessing of > > keeping > > > > > dancing ganesha statue near bed near head, than keeping the > > statue > > > > in > > > > > any other places in the room (like on table, in show case > etc.)? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Tanvir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What cannot happen, can never happen. > > > > > > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Dear Buku, Its perfectly ok. We all may or may not do that, but it is not worshipping. I was trying to explain this difference to Swee, as she was not aware of this practice so commonly performed by all of us in India. Best regards, Sarbani vedic astrology [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of astro_dipMonday, September 26, 2005 12:50 PMTo: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Dancing Ganesha - ( A slight confusion - Pls help ) Dear Sarbani ji, Rao ji, and allI was just going through the disucssion, and was really enlightened mea lot. This ongoing discussion has made me raise this question to allyou members.Actually I have a Dancing Ganesha Photo, in my bedroom as well as inmy Living room. Also a Pancha mukhi Photo Hanumam faces outside myentry door. My mother who regulary performs pooja, also shows Dhoop tothe Ganesha and Hanuman Photos I mentioned, and all the photos aregarlanded on Tuesday's( Ganpati day ) and Saturday ( Hanuman's day ).Here I am talking about photos which are not inside the Pooja room.The question I want to ask is whether this practice is OK, because theongoing discussion has slighlty confused me.I hope if somebody can help me in this matter.Thanking YouBuku--- In vedic astrology, "Swee Chan" <swee@c...> wrote:> Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Sarbani,> Namaste> > Thank you for pointing out the difference between a murti and a workof art.> However, might I suggest you place the picture of Durga in the NEcorner of> the living room? This way, She faces the SW and crushes Rahu who isin your> 5th :-) (I hope this makes sense.)> > How was your trip? We've missed your contribution on our list.:-):-):-) Now> that you are back I really need to type out those names so you mayhelp me> get down to the root of it all.> > Much love,> > Swee> > > > _____ > > vedic astrology> [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 5:14 PM> vedic astrology> RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Dancing Ganesha> > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > Dear Swee,> > Murtis are often kept in strategic positions in houses as they are> considered auspicious. These murtis and pictures are not worshippedand may> often be artistic in nature. This is a very common phenomenon inmany homes> in India. Such murtis/pics are not offered flowers etc.neither are they> draped in clothes. For example beautiful sculptures or pictures ofGanesha> are often kept near the main door.Usually these murtis/pics areartistic and> ornamental and never kept in the altar. However placing them nearthe door> is considered that Ganesha is protecting the 'dwara' so that noobstacles or> evils 'come in'. Similarly people place beautiful sculptures andpaintings> of deities in other parts of the house, like the sitting room. Theyare not> merely for ornamentation or art collection; neither are they forworship.> Their mere presence or placement is considered auspicious. The dancing> Ganesha is meant with a similar underlining intention. (you can askSanjayji> for further details of implications of this remedy). I will give youa small> example. I have a beautiful painting of Goddess Durga on aparticular kind> of silk done by the pata chitras workers of Orissa. Its a beautifulpiece of> craftsmanship. This is not meant for the altar but hangs in my bedroom.> Given that I dabble in jyotish, I moved the picture to the south western> wall. The south west is the direction of Niritti ruled by Rahu, andof the> deities associated with the node who can crush Rahu is Durga. Would you> consider this remedy? In this manner, art objects representing deities,> which are strictly not meant for the altar and hence not forworship, are> 'strategically' placed as their mere presence are consideredauspicious or> fortunate. Hope this clarifies some of your doubts.> > Warmly,> > Sarbani > > > > _____ > > vedic astrology> [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Swee Chan> Friday, September 23, 2005 4:04 PM> To: vedic astrology> RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Dancing Ganesha> Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Sarbani and Raghunatha,> Namaste> > [i think, I have learnt some time ago that using this Ucchista > Ganapathy in the head side of the bed/bedroom will work as a > rememdy for maritial dishormony etc., Please correct me if my > understanding is not correct.]> > Regards> Raghunatha Rao> > Please refer to Sanjay ji's article: http://srath.com/mantra/ganesa2.htm> > Pardon my ignorance about keeping an image of His potencies withouthaving> to perform any offerings. Not in any of the puranas have I comeacross this> suggestion.> > I would like to understand that there are variations of murtis:> The ones you keep for offering prayers to and the other is as a remedial> measure to help with marital disharmony without offerings???? Whatis your> reasoning/logic?> > Love,> > Swee> > > -----Original Message-----> vedic astrology> [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of RaghunathaRaoNemani> Thursday, September 22, 2005 8:58 PM> To: vedic astrology> [vedic astrology] Re: Dancing Ganesha> > Om Krishna Guru> > Namaste Sarbani Ji,> > Thanks for the note and I know what you mean. I could not> stop laughing to myself, if some one thinks that we can keep> Such an idol in bedroom and worhisp them. I know that > Idols for worship and are kept only in the alter.> > I think, I have learnt some time ago that using this Ucchista > Ganapathy in the head side of the bed/bedroom will work as a > rememdy for maritial dishormony etc., Please correct me if my > understanding is not correct.> > Regards> Raghunatha Rao> > --- In vedic astrology, "Sarbani Sarkar" > <sarbani@s...> wrote:> > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > > > Dear Raghu,> > > > I think Swee is thinking that the 'dancing Ganesha next to the bed' > remedy> > is for worshipping; which is as you know, it is not. Idols for > worship are> > kept only in the alter. The way we have Ganesha near the main > entrance etc.,> > which is not for worship, but is an auspicious placement. > Similarly, next to> > the bed for the particular remedy.> > > > Best regards,> > > > Sarbani > > > > _____ > > > > vedic astrology> > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Raghunatha > RaoNemani> > Thursday, September 22, 2005 5:46 PM> > To: vedic astrology> > [vedic astrology] Re: Dancing Ganesha> > > > > > Om Krishna Guru> > > > Namaste Swee Ji,> > > > Thanks for the note and details. Please clarify the following for> > my own leanring:-> > > > 1) Based on the text you have provided from the Linga Purana,> > I did not understood, where it was mentioned one can not> > Keep dancing form of Ganesh in the bed room ?> > > > 2) If my understanding is correct: The Deva Maata Aditi is the > > wife of Maharish Kashyapa and who was the mother of Devas like > > Indra, Surya etc. Even Lord Vishnu took his birth as VAMANA from > > Kashyapa Maharishi and Devaa Maata Aditi. But you have metnioned > that > > Diti (Daksha's daughter who was married to Kasyapa) is a mother of > > Daityas (the demonic sons). Are you refering to that Diti and Aditi > > are the same and she gave birth to devas and daitya's too?> > > > Please clarify my doubt and educate me.> > > > Regards> > Raghunatha Rao> > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, "Swee Chan" <swee@c...> > wrote:> > > Jaya Jagannatha> > > > > > Dear Nitin, Raghunatha et al,> > > Namaste> > > > > > A boon requested by Brihaspati for protecting the Devas from the > > Daityas was> > > the appearance of Ganesh in his Dancing Form. > > > (Reference Linga Purana - Chapter 105 on The Origin of VinAyaka > > texts 4 -> > > 10. The dancing form Text 11)> > > > > > Text 18: O Lord (Ganeshwara), remove the vital breaths of men and > > women> > > fallen off from their castes and similarly do unto those who are > > devoid of> > > their duties.> > > > > > Text 26: Those people, those human beings who worship you are > > undoubtedly to> > > be worshipped by even Indra and others.> > > > > > Text 29-30: Ever since then, people worship Ganeshwara in this > > world. This> > > Ganeshwara created obstacles in the rituals of Daityas.> > > > > > Daityas: These are the demonic sons of Diti (Daksha's daughter > who > > was> > > married to Kasyapa). They could not die due to Shukra who was > > resuscitating> > > them and destroying the Devas.> > > > > > This is proof enough to suggest that He in that form should be > > worshipped> > > and NOT placed in a bedroom while Shukra denotes the anima/animus > > in humans.> > > > > > > > > Love,> > > Swee> > > > > > > > > > > > notify [notify] On > > Behalf Of> > > Nitin> > > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:36 AM> > > Swee Chan> > > Re: Dancing Ganesha> > > > > > ||| Hare Rama Krishna |||> > > > > > Dear Swee, Namaskaar. > > > > > > Why can't a dancing Ganesha (murti) be placed in the bedroom...?> > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Nitin.> > > > > > || Namah Shivaaya ||> > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Swee Chan" <swee@c...> > > wrote:> > > > Jaya Jagannatha> > > > > > > > Dear Tanvir,> > > > Namaste> > > > > > > > You cannot place a murti in the bedroom.> > > > > > > > Love,> > > > > > > > Swee> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Raghunatha> > > RaoNemani> > > > Tuesday, September 20, 2005 10:52 PM> > > > To: vedic astrology> > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Dancing Ganesha> > > > > > > > Om Krishna Guru> > > > > > > > Namste Tanvir and Sreelatha,> > > > > > > > That was a good explanation. One has to see and choose what is > > the > > > > purpose of choosing the dancing ganesa as a remedial purpose, > > such as > > > > marriage related (problems ) remedies. What I meant here is : > > some > > > > statues/pictures show Lord Ganesha's right leg raised and in > some > > > > left leg is raised, and also his trunk is pointed towards left > > side > > > > and in some right hand side etc.,> > > > > > > > I will write a bit more on these different poses when I get > more > > time.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Raghunatha Rao> > > > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, "Venkatarama Sreelatha" > > > > <venkatarama_sastry> wrote:> > > > > Sree Krishna Guru> > > > > > > > > > Dear Tanvir,> > > > > > > > > > Ganesha in a dancing mudra is said to bring happiness and > > harmony > > > > to > > > > > the married couple, and hence is kept at the head of the bed. > > This > > > > can > > > > > be kept in any other place as well, and is reputed to bring > > > > happiness > > > > > to that place / activities associated with that place. The > > theory > > > > is > > > > > that the Lord is pleased, and is dancing in joy, and hence > will > > > > bless > > > > > his surroundings with joy as well. > > > > > > > > > > Ultimately, of course, it is the devotion of the person... > the > > Lord > > > > is > > > > > always happy and ready to bless the devoted, and it is up to > us > > to > > > > make > > > > > that effort.> > > > > > > > > > Sincerely,> > > > > Venkatarama Sreelatha> > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Tanvir" > > <ultimate@s...> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone tell me if there is any special blessing of > > keeping > > > > > dancing ganesha statue near bed near head, than keeping the > > statue > > > > in > > > > > any other places in the room (like on table, in show case > etc.)?> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > > Tanvir> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What cannot happen, can never happen.> > > > > > Which is mine, is forever mine.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > > > > > Group info: vedic-> astrology/info.html> > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Buku, Namaste Of course He has to be acknowledged in order you may receive some of his blessings. Try and avoid offerings on Tuesdays. Instead, try it on Saturday and see how much quicker you get his blessings I was give some pictures too which should be acknowledged daily. The same goes with your Guru's picture, to whom, you offer obeisance and then go about your other offerings. Love, Swee vedic astrology [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of astro_dip Monday, September 26, 2005 9:20 AM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: Dancing Ganesha - ( A slight confusion - Pls help ) Dear Sarbani ji, Rao ji, and all I was just going through the disucssion, and was really enlightened me a lot. This ongoing discussion has made me raise this question to all you members. Actually I have a Dancing Ganesha Photo, in my bedroom as well as in my Living room. Also a Pancha mukhi Photo Hanumam faces outside my entry door. My mother who regulary performs pooja, also shows Dhoop to the Ganesha and Hanuman Photos I mentioned, and all the photos are garlanded on Tuesday's( Ganpati day ) and Saturday ( Hanuman's day ). Here I am talking about photos which are not inside the Pooja room. The question I want to ask is whether this practice is OK, because the ongoing discussion has slighlty confused me. I hope if somebody can help me in this matter. Thanking You Buku vedic astrology, "Swee Chan" <swee@c...> wrote: > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Sarbani, > Namaste > > Thank you for pointing out the difference between a murti and a work of art. > However, might I suggest you place the picture of Durga in the NE corner of > the living room? This way, She faces the SW and crushes Rahu who is in your > 5th :-) (I hope this makes sense.) > > How was your trip? We've missed your contribution on our list. :-):-):-) Now > that you are back I really need to type out those names so you may help me > get down to the root of it all. > > Much love, > > Swee > > > > _____ > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar > Saturday, September 24, 2005 5:14 PM > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Dancing Ganesha > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > Dear Swee, > > Murtis are often kept in strategic positions in houses as they are > considered auspicious. These murtis and pictures are not worshipped and may > often be artistic in nature. This is a very common phenomenon in many homes > in India. Such murtis/pics are not offered flowers etc.neither are they > draped in clothes. For example beautiful sculptures or pictures of Ganesha > are often kept near the main door.Usually these murtis/pics are artistic and > ornamental and never kept in the altar. However placing them near the door > is considered that Ganesha is protecting the 'dwara' so that no obstacles or > evils 'come in'. Similarly people place beautiful sculptures and paintings > of deities in other parts of the house, like the sitting room. They are not > merely for ornamentation or art collection; neither are they for worship. > Their mere presence or placement is considered auspicious. The dancing > Ganesha is meant with a similar underlining intention. (you can ask Sanjayji > for further details of implications of this remedy). I will give you a small > example. I have a beautiful painting of Goddess Durga on a particular kind > of silk done by the pata chitras workers of Orissa. Its a beautiful piece of > craftsmanship. This is not meant for the altar but hangs in my bedroom. > Given that I dabble in jyotish, I moved the picture to the south western > wall. The south west is the direction of Niritti ruled by Rahu, and of the > deities associated with the node who can crush Rahu is Durga. Would you > consider this remedy? In this manner, art objects representing deities, > which are strictly not meant for the altar and hence not for worship, are > 'strategically' placed as their mere presence are considered auspicious or > fortunate. Hope this clarifies some of your doubts. > > Warmly, > > Sarbani > > > > _____ > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Swee Chan > Friday, September 23, 2005 4:04 PM > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Dancing Ganesha > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Sarbani and Raghunatha, > Namaste > > [i think, I have learnt some time ago that using this Ucchista > Ganapathy in the head side of the bed/bedroom will work as a > rememdy for maritial dishormony etc., Please correct me if my > understanding is not correct.] > > Regards > Raghunatha Rao > > Please refer to Sanjay ji's article: http://srath.com/mantra/ganesa2.htm > > Pardon my ignorance about keeping an image of His potencies without having > to perform any offerings. Not in any of the puranas have I come across this > suggestion. > > I would like to understand that there are variations of murtis: > The ones you keep for offering prayers to and the other is as a remedial > measure to help with marital disharmony without offerings???? What is your > reasoning/logic? > > Love, > > Swee > > > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Raghunatha RaoNemani > Thursday, September 22, 2005 8:58 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: Dancing Ganesha > > Om Krishna Guru > > Namaste Sarbani Ji, > > Thanks for the note and I know what you mean. I could not > stop laughing to myself, if some one thinks that we can keep > Such an idol in bedroom and worhisp them. I know that > Idols for worship and are kept only in the alter. > > I think, I have learnt some time ago that using this Ucchista > Ganapathy in the head side of the bed/bedroom will work as a > rememdy for maritial dishormony etc., Please correct me if my > understanding is not correct. > > Regards > Raghunatha Rao > > vedic astrology, "Sarbani Sarkar" > <sarbani@s...> wrote: > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > Dear Raghu, > > > > I think Swee is thinking that the 'dancing Ganesha next to the bed' > remedy > > is for worshipping; which is as you know, it is not. Idols for > worship are > > kept only in the alter. The way we have Ganesha near the main > entrance etc., > > which is not for worship, but is an auspicious placement. > Similarly, next to > > the bed for the particular remedy. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Sarbani > > > > _____ > > > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Raghunatha > RaoNemani > > Thursday, September 22, 2005 5:46 PM > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] Re: Dancing Ganesha > > > > > > Om Krishna Guru > > > > Namaste Swee Ji, > > > > Thanks for the note and details. Please clarify the following for > > my own leanring:- > > > > 1) Based on the text you have provided from the Linga Purana, > > I did not understood, where it was mentioned one can not > > Keep dancing form of Ganesh in the bed room ? > > > > 2) If my understanding is correct: The Deva Maata Aditi is the > > wife of Maharish Kashyapa and who was the mother of Devas like > > Indra, Surya etc. Even Lord Vishnu took his birth as VAMANA from > > Kashyapa Maharishi and Devaa Maata Aditi. But you have metnioned > that > > Diti (Daksha's daughter who was married to Kasyapa) is a mother of > > Daityas (the demonic sons). Are you refering to that Diti and Aditi > > are the same and she gave birth to devas and daitya's too? > > > > Please clarify my doubt and educate me. > > > > Regards > > Raghunatha Rao > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Swee Chan" <swee@c...> > wrote: > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > Dear Nitin, Raghunatha et al, > > > Namaste > > > > > > A boon requested by Brihaspati for protecting the Devas from the > > Daityas was > > > the appearance of Ganesh in his Dancing Form. > > > (Reference Linga Purana - Chapter 105 on The Origin of VinAyaka > > texts 4 - > > > 10. The dancing form Text 11) > > > > > > Text 18: O Lord (Ganeshwara), remove the vital breaths of men and > > women > > > fallen off from their castes and similarly do unto those who are > > devoid of > > > their duties. > > > > > > Text 26: Those people, those human beings who worship you are > > undoubtedly to > > > be worshipped by even Indra and others. > > > > > > Text 29-30: Ever since then, people worship Ganeshwara in this > > world. This > > > Ganeshwara created obstacles in the rituals of Daityas. > > > > > > Daityas: These are the demonic sons of Diti (Daksha's daughter > who > > was > > > married to Kasyapa). They could not die due to Shukra who was > > resuscitating > > > them and destroying the Devas. > > > > > > This is proof enough to suggest that He in that form should be > > worshipped > > > and NOT placed in a bedroom while Shukra denotes the anima/animus > > in humans. > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > notify [notify] On > > Behalf Of > > > Nitin > > > Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:36 AM > > > Swee Chan > > > Re: Dancing Ganesha > > > > > > ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| > > > > > > Dear Swee, Namaskaar. > > > > > > Why can't a dancing Ganesha (murti) be placed in the bedroom...? > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Nitin. > > > > > > || Namah Shivaaya || > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Swee Chan" <swee@c...> > > wrote: > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > Dear Tanvir, > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > You cannot place a murti in the bedroom. > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Raghunatha > > > RaoNemani > > > > Tuesday, September 20, 2005 10:52 PM > > > > vedic astrology > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Dancing Ganesha > > > > > > > > Om Krishna Guru > > > > > > > > Namste Tanvir and Sreelatha, > > > > > > > > That was a good explanation. One has to see and choose what is > > the > > > > purpose of choosing the dancing ganesa as a remedial purpose, > > such as > > > > marriage related (problems ) remedies. What I meant here is : > > some > > > > statues/pictures show Lord Ganesha's right leg raised and in > some > > > > left leg is raised, and also his trunk is pointed towards left > > side > > > > and in some right hand side etc., > > > > > > > > I will write a bit more on these different poses when I get > more > > time. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Raghunatha Rao > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Venkatarama Sreelatha" > > > > <venkatarama_sastry> wrote: > > > > > Sree Krishna Guru > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tanvir, > > > > > > > > > > Ganesha in a dancing mudra is said to bring happiness and > > harmony > > > > to > > > > > the married couple, and hence is kept at the head of the bed. > > This > > > > can > > > > > be kept in any other place as well, and is reputed to bring > > > > happiness > > > > > to that place / activities associated with that place. The > > theory > > > > is > > > > > that the Lord is pleased, and is dancing in joy, and hence > will > > > > bless > > > > > his surroundings with joy as well. > > > > > > > > > > Ultimately, of course, it is the devotion of the person... > the > > Lord > > > > is > > > > > always happy and ready to bless the devoted, and it is up to > us > > to > > > > make > > > > > that effort. > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > Venkatarama Sreelatha > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Tanvir" > > <ultimate@s...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone tell me if there is any special blessing of > > keeping > > > > > dancing ganesha statue near bed near head, than keeping the > > statue > > > > in > > > > > any other places in the room (like on table, in show case > etc.)? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Tanvir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What cannot happen, can never happen. > > > > > > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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