ADMIN: To Puzzle Givers, Solvers and Interferers

[Guest guest]

Dear friends,

 

I have confirmed that some puzzle givers were too gentle to point out fraud.

When some members who found out the correct answer privately attempted the

puzzle publicly, after knowing the correct answer but without acknowledging it,

the puzzle givers were too nice to say anything and simply gave credit to the

members.

 

This is very sad. The puzzle givers are equally at fault in such incidents as

the cheating puzzle solvers! Acts of both the parties involved are totally

against the spirit of the list.

 

Puzzle givers, please don't reveal the answer to anyone privately, even if

someone calls you or tries to chat with you. If someone who knows the answer

gives an analysis making it look like a "blind analysis", please don't be too

nice and do point it out publicly. This will discourage fraud in future.

Complicity in an offense is an offense too.

 

Puzzle solvers, if you know the answer and if you think that there is a clear

logic to explain it, please do share your analysis with fellow students, but

have the character to acknowledge that you knew the answer. There is a big

difference between blind analysis and a retrospective analysis. There is no

need to fake the latter for former. It is very unethical. If you want to

illustrate how easy it is to find the answer, please do so without finding out

the answer privately.

 

And there have been some people of late who don't seem to know what is not their

business. For example, whether a particular person should speak at an SJC

workshop or not is the business of that person, his guru and the organizer of

the workshop. As the list is growing, people should exercise more and more

discipline to reduce noise on the list and keep the list meaningful. Thus, we

will have to be stern with those who interfere in what is not their business.

Please mind your business and stick to astrology.

 

As I am busy with TP book, Narayan Iyer is administering the list. Please

co-operate with him. He will be very stern in the coming days to bring the list

back to normalcy and reduce useless traffic.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

List founder & admin

 

PS: I had the pleasure of meeting Sri Purushothaman at the California seminar a

few years back. He is a very nice and loving gentleman. My condolences to his

immediate family and the SJC, Singapore family!

 

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[Guest guest]

Hare Rama Krishna

 

Namaste PVR ji,

 

Pranams. Sorry, for taking your valuable time to sort out the issues

following my posting of the puzzle. My sincere apologies to those who

have been hurt with my silence and thankful to those who came forward

to point out the mistakes. I'll be more careful and vigilant to point

out the mistakes as soon as possible. My silence here was not to hide,

but give the person a chance to reveal the mistake himself and come up

clean. I knew that the same persons who were asking me if he had prior

knowledge of this incident had also approached the person in question.

This is my first time experience in such controversial circumstance. I

have learnt a lesson too. The last thing in my life is to defend

myself. I'm writing this because my guru is asking the question.

 

I want to make sure that my intention was not to discuss the answers

to anyone, before the puzzle was attempted by every one. I love

attempting the puzzles and know it's importance. But as FATE would

have its play, this so happened that, I revealed the answer, AFTER the

person in question said he's DONE with the puzzle, then. I DID NOT

KNOW that he would re-post with a different chart and time. I was

equally shocked to see the answer on the list, the next day.

 

I DID tell the truth to those who approached me with doubts whether

the person who answered correctly had discussed this incident with me,

in advance. The silence I maintained was to respect that person's

contribution so far, his helping nature and his real interests in

knowing this divine science. When I happened to talk to this person

next time, I DID tell him that he's wrong with his answers on the list

with out acknowledging that he knew the answer.

 

The discussion that happened between us initially was to discuss the

an important factor that was not seen by that person in his first

reply to me privately. This was done to emphasize that this new tool,

that was used in this exercise, is as powerful as any other tools that

we have. It's purely our limitations. Again I did not want to post my

incident as a puzzle on the list to start with. This person

emphasized that it be put on the list, so that every one will have a

chance to attempt. We can't escape the fate, is the lesson!

 

I was and am still not having access to Internet for last 1 and 1/2

weeks as I have moved to my new house and yet to get the Internet

connection. So that also contributed for my delay in responding in the

list.

 

Hope you will forgive my silence and continue to bless me to learn

this divine science with your guidance. I'll assure you, my

sincereness in learning, spreading this divine science and helping the

needy within my capability and capacity. May the divine light guide

us...

 

With your blessings,

 

Sishya, Palanivelu

 

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

<pvr@c...> wrote:

> Dear friends,

>

> I have confirmed that some puzzle givers were too gentle to point

out fraud. When some members who found out the correct answer

privately attempted the puzzle publicly, after knowing the correct

answer but without acknowledging it, the puzzle givers were too nice

to say anything and simply gave credit to the members.

>

> This is very sad. The puzzle givers are equally at fault in such

incidents as the cheating puzzle solvers! Acts of both the parties

involved are totally against the spirit of the list.

>

> Puzzle givers, please don't reveal the answer to anyone privately,

even if someone calls you or tries to chat with you. If someone who

knows the answer gives an analysis making it look like a "blind

analysis", please don't be too nice and do point it out publicly. This

will discourage fraud in future. Complicity in an offense is an

offense too.

>

> Puzzle solvers, if you know the answer and if you think that there

is a clear logic to explain it, please do share your analysis with

fellow students, but have the character to acknowledge that you knew

the answer. There is a big difference between blind analysis and a

retrospective analysis. There is no need to fake the latter for

former. It is very unethical. If you want to illustrate how easy it is

to find the answer, please do so without finding out the answer

privately.

>

> And there have been some people of late who don't seem to know what

is not their business. For example, whether a particular person should

speak at an SJC workshop or not is the business of that person, his

guru and the organizer of the workshop. As the list is growing, people

should exercise more and more discipline to reduce noise on the list

and keep the list meaningful. Thus, we will have to be stern with

those who interfere in what is not their business. Please mind your

business and stick to astrology.

>

> As I am busy with TP book, Narayan Iyer is administering the list.

Please co-operate with him. He will be very stern in the coming days

to bring the list back to normalcy and reduce useless traffic.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

> List founder & admin

>

> PS: I had the pleasure of meeting Sri Purushothaman at the

California seminar a few years back. He is a very nice and loving

gentleman. My condolences to his immediate family and the SJC,

Singapore family!

>

> -------------------------------

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> -------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Namaste,

 

Thanks for sharing this with everyone. This is simply amazing that

this person would go to these lengths just to be right on the dot on

the puzzles. He used to post all his correct predictions to every

jyotish list known to him.Will he own up to this on all the other

lists as well ? Many suspected that he had an inside track on the

puzzles. May be he is someone bent on seeking publicity at any cost.

 

In a few instances when some had asked him questions on his anlysis ,

either it was met with silence or "You need a guru to learn this

method". Sometime back this individual also questioned peoples

worthiness to receive this knowledge.

 

Anyway it is Kaliyuga afterall and one needs to put up with people who cheat.

 

....

 

On 7/13/05, Palanivelu <palsdevi wrote:

> Hare Rama Krishna

>

> Namaste PVR ji,

>

> Pranams. Sorry, for taking your valuable time to sort out the issues

> following my posting of the puzzle. My sincere apologies to those who

> have been hurt with my silence and thankful to those who came forward

> to point out the mistakes. I'll be more careful and vigilant to point

> out the mistakes as soon as possible. My silence here was not to hide,

> but give the person a chance to reveal the mistake himself and come up

> clean. I knew that the same persons who were asking me if he had prior

> knowledge of this incident had also approached the person in question.

> This is my first time experience in such controversial circumstance. I

> have learnt a lesson too. The last thing in my life is to defend

> myself. I'm writing this because my guru is asking the question.

>

> I want to make sure that my intention was not to discuss the answers

> to anyone, before the puzzle was attempted by every one. I love

> attempting the puzzles and know it's importance. But as FATE would

> have its play, this so happened that, I revealed the answer, AFTER the

> person in question said he's DONE with the puzzle, then. I DID NOT

> KNOW that he would re-post with a different chart and time. I was

> equally shocked to see the answer on the list, the next day.

>

> I DID tell the truth to those who approached me with doubts whether

> the person who answered correctly had discussed this incident with me,

> in advance. The silence I maintained was to respect that person's

> contribution so far, his helping nature and his real interests in

> knowing this divine science. When I happened to talk to this person

> next time, I DID tell him that he's wrong with his answers on the list

> with out acknowledging that he knew the answer.

>

> The discussion that happened between us initially was to discuss the

> an important factor that was not seen by that person in his first

> reply to me privately. This was done to emphasize that this new tool,

> that was used in this exercise, is as powerful as any other tools that

> we have. It's purely our limitations. Again I did not want to post my

> incident as a puzzle on the list to start with. This person

> emphasized that it be put on the list, so that every one will have a

> chance to attempt. We can't escape the fate, is the lesson!

>

> I was and am still not having access to Internet for last 1 and 1/2

> weeks as I have moved to my new house and yet to get the Internet

> connection. So that also contributed for my delay in responding in the

> list.

>

> Hope you will forgive my silence and continue to bless me to learn

> this divine science with your guidance. I'll assure you, my

> sincereness in learning, spreading this divine science and helping the

> needy within my capability and capacity. May the divine light guide

> us...

>

> With your blessings,

>

> Sishya, Palanivelu

>

> vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

> <pvr@c...> wrote:

> > Dear friends,

> >

> > I have confirmed that some puzzle givers were too gentle to point

> out fraud. When some members who found out the correct answer

> privately attempted the puzzle publicly, after knowing the correct

> answer but without acknowledging it, the puzzle givers were too nice

> to say anything and simply gave credit to the members.

> >

> > This is very sad. The puzzle givers are equally at fault in such

> incidents as the cheating puzzle solvers! Acts of both the parties

> involved are totally against the spirit of the list.

> >

> > Puzzle givers, please don't reveal the answer to anyone privately,

> even if someone calls you or tries to chat with you. If someone who

> knows the answer gives an analysis making it look like a "blind

> analysis", please don't be too nice and do point it out publicly. This

> will discourage fraud in future. Complicity in an offense is an

> offense too.

> >

> > Puzzle solvers, if you know the answer and if you think that there

> is a clear logic to explain it, please do share your analysis with

> fellow students, but have the character to acknowledge that you knew

> the answer. There is a big difference between blind analysis and a

> retrospective analysis. There is no need to fake the latter for

> former. It is very unethical. If you want to illustrate how easy it is

> to find the answer, please do so without finding out the answer

> privately.

> >

> > And there have been some people of late who don't seem to know what

> is not their business. For example, whether a particular person should

> speak at an SJC workshop or not is the business of that person, his

> guru and the organizer of the workshop. As the list is growing, people

> should exercise more and more discipline to reduce noise on the list

> and keep the list meaningful. Thus, we will have to be stern with

> those who interfere in what is not their business. Please mind your

> business and stick to astrology.

> >

> > As I am busy with TP book, Narayan Iyer is administering the list.

> Please co-operate with him. He will be very stern in the coming days

> to bring the list back to normalcy and reduce useless traffic.

> >

> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > Narasimha

> > List founder & admin

> >

> > PS: I had the pleasure of meeting Sri Purushothaman at the

> California seminar a few years back. He is a very nice and loving

> gentleman. My condolences to his immediate family and the SJC,

> Singapore family!

> >

> >

> -------------------------------

> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3):

> http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> >

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Namaste,

 

Tom tamed his victory at his roofs’ top,

Disregarded neighbors envy, stood in the status by pop

and hoop,

Treacherous n’bors weaved a web in collusion with

puzzle- maker,

Made maani tumble down cheerful cheered all day long,

Alas! Destiny destroyers’ tom tamed,

The one man’s pain other men’s laughter,

Alas! The scenario prevails among D’ destroyers,

Kaliyuga blinks! Kaliyuga blinks!

 

 

 

Panditji <navagraha wrote:

 

> Namaste,

>

> Thanks for sharing this with everyone. This is

> simply amazing that

> this person would go to these lengths just to be

> right on the dot on

> the puzzles. He used to post all his correct

> predictions to every

> jyotish list known to him.Will he own up to this on

> all the other

> lists as well ? Many suspected that he had an inside

> track on the

> puzzles. May be he is someone bent on seeking

> publicity at any cost.

>

> In a few instances when some had asked him questions

> on his anlysis ,

> either it was met with silence or "You need a guru

> to learn this

> method". Sometime back this individual also

> questioned peoples

> worthiness to receive this knowledge.

>

> Anyway it is Kaliyuga afterall and one needs to put

> up with people who cheat.

>

> ...

>

> On 7/13/05, Palanivelu <palsdevi wrote:

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> >

> > Namaste PVR ji,

> >

> > Pranams. Sorry, for taking your valuable time to

> sort out the issues

> > following my posting of the puzzle. My sincere

> apologies to those who

> > have been hurt with my silence and thankful to

> those who came forward

> > to point out the mistakes. I'll be more careful

> and vigilant to point

> > out the mistakes as soon as possible. My silence

> here was not to hide,

> > but give the person a chance to reveal the mistake

> himself and come up

> > clean. I knew that the same persons who were

> asking me if he had prior

> > knowledge of this incident had also approached the

> person in question.

> > This is my first time experience in such

> controversial circumstance. I

> > have learnt a lesson too. The last thing in my

> life is to defend

> > myself. I'm writing this because my guru is asking

> the question.

> >

> > I want to make sure that my intention was not to

> discuss the answers

> > to anyone, before the puzzle was attempted by

> every one. I love

> > attempting the puzzles and know it's importance.

> But as FATE would

> > have its play, this so happened that, I revealed

> the answer, AFTER the

> > person in question said he's DONE with the puzzle,

> then. I DID NOT

> > KNOW that he would re-post with a different chart

> and time. I was

> > equally shocked to see the answer on the list, the

> next day.

> >

> > I DID tell the truth to those who approached me

> with doubts whether

> > the person who answered correctly had discussed

> this incident with me,

> > in advance. The silence I maintained was to

> respect that person's

> > contribution so far, his helping nature and his

> real interests in

> > knowing this divine science. When I happened to

> talk to this person

> > next time, I DID tell him that he's wrong with his

> answers on the list

> > with out acknowledging that he knew the answer.

> >

> > The discussion that happened between us initially

> was to discuss the

> > an important factor that was not seen by that

> person in his first

> > reply to me privately. This was done to emphasize

> that this new tool,

> > that was used in this exercise, is as powerful as

> any other tools that

> > we have. It's purely our limitations. Again I did

> not want to post my

> > incident as a puzzle on the list to start

> with. This person

> > emphasized that it be put on the list, so that

> every one will have a

> > chance to attempt. We can't escape the fate, is

> the lesson!

> >

> > I was and am still not having access to Internet

> for last 1 and 1/2

> > weeks as I have moved to my new house and yet to

> get the Internet

> > connection. So that also contributed for my delay

> in responding in the

> > list.

> >

> > Hope you will forgive my silence and continue to

> bless me to learn

> > this divine science with your guidance. I'll

> assure you, my

> > sincereness in learning, spreading this divine

> science and helping the

> > needy within my capability and capacity. May the

> divine light guide

> > us...

> >

> > With your blessings,

> >

> > Sishya, Palanivelu

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Narasimha

> P.V.R. Rao"

> > <pvr@c...> wrote:

> > > Dear friends,

> > >

> > > I have confirmed that some puzzle givers were

> too gentle to point

> > out fraud. When some members who found out the

> correct answer

> > privately attempted the puzzle publicly, after

> knowing the correct

> > answer but without acknowledging it, the puzzle

> givers were too nice

> > to say anything and simply gave credit to the

> members.

> > >

> > > This is very sad. The puzzle givers are equally

> at fault in such

> > incidents as the cheating puzzle solvers! Acts of

> both the parties

> > involved are totally against the spirit of the

> list.

> > >

> > > Puzzle givers, please don't reveal the answer to

> anyone privately,

> > even if someone calls you or tries to chat with

> you. If someone who

> > knows the answer gives an analysis making it look

> like a "blind

> > analysis", please don't be too nice and do point

> it out publicly. This

> > will discourage fraud in future. Complicity in an

> offense is an

> > offense too.

> > >

> > > Puzzle solvers, if you know the answer and if

> you think that there

> > is a clear logic to explain it, please do share

> your analysis with

> > fellow students, but have the character to

> acknowledge that you knew

> > the answer. There is a big difference between

> blind analysis and a

> > retrospective analysis. There is no need to fake

> the latter for

> > former. It is very unethical. If you want to

> illustrate how easy it is

> > to find the answer, please do so without finding

> out the answer

> > privately.

> > >

> > > And there have been some people of late who

> don't seem to know what

> > is not their business. For example, whether a

> particular person should

> > speak at an SJC workshop or not is the business of

> that person, his

> > guru and the organizer of the workshop. As the

> list is growing, people

> > should exercise more and more discipline to reduce

> noise on the list

> > and keep the list meaningful. Thus, we will have

> to be stern with

> > those who interfere in what is not their business.

> Please mind your

> > business and stick to astrology.

> > >

> > > As I am busy with TP book, Narayan Iyer is

> administering the list.

> > Please co-operate with him. He will be very stern

> in the coming days

> > to bring the list back to normalcy and reduce

> useless traffic.

> > >

> > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > Narasimha

> > > List founder & admin

>

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[Guest guest]

Namaste Panditji,

 

I do believe that ethical behavior must be promoted and unethical

behavior and fraud must be curbed. I have not tried to sweep things

under the carpet, despite my great respect for the offending member

and his guru. We are dealing with the problem and trying to ensure

that it does not re-occur.

 

However, it is not productive to politicize this issue and engage in

personal attacks. It is easy to find faults with others, while

ignoring bigger faults in oneself. None of is a Sri Ramachandra. We

all have our faults. If somebody needs help, we need to be

compassionate and offer a hand of help, rather than insulting the

person more. The offending person has learnt a lot of knowledge in a

short span of time and has helped many a person. We need to be

grateful for that and help him recover from this.

 

Whatever people need to know has already been stated, so that people

are aware of these possibilities and are more vigilant in future.

Please do NOT discuss this issue anymore.

 

Dear Palani,

 

I am not unhappy with you. You were probably surprised by the

behavior of the gentleman and I understand your sentiment when you

say "The silence I maintained was to respect that person's

contribution so far, his helping nature and his real interests in

knowing this divine science". I probably would've behaved the same

way. Moreover, you were not the only person.

 

The mail I sent was to alert people to this kind of behavior to make

them more vigilant and also to encourage them to report fraud. My

intention was not to reprimand you. I know that you are one of the

most sincere and saattwik students out there.

 

Friends, now let us put this episode behind us and move on. We had a

lot of puzzles and a lot of genuine attempts and we all learned from

them in the past. We can continue in the same spirit and put this

behind us.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

List founder & admin

-------------------------------

Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

-------------------------------

 

> Namaste,

>

> Thanks for sharing this with everyone. This is simply amazing that

> this person would go to these lengths just to be right on the dot

on

> the puzzles. He used to post all his correct predictions to every

> jyotish list known to him.Will he own up to this on all the other

> lists as well ? Many suspected that he had an inside track on the

> puzzles. May be he is someone bent on seeking publicity at any

cost.

>

> In a few instances when some had asked him questions on his

anlysis ,

> either it was met with silence or "You need a guru to learn this

> method". Sometime back this individual also questioned peoples

> worthiness to receive this knowledge.

>

> Anyway it is Kaliyuga afterall and one needs to put up with people

who cheat.

>

> ...

>

> On 7/13/05, Palanivelu <palsdevi> wrote:

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> >

> > Namaste PVR ji,

> >

> > Pranams. Sorry, for taking your valuable time to sort out the

issues

> > following my posting of the puzzle. My sincere apologies to

those who

> > have been hurt with my silence and thankful to those who came

forward

> > to point out the mistakes. I'll be more careful and vigilant to

point

> > out the mistakes as soon as possible. My silence here was not to

hide,

> > but give the person a chance to reveal the mistake himself and

come up

> > clean. I knew that the same persons who were asking me if he had

prior

> > knowledge of this incident had also approached the person in

question.

> > This is my first time experience in such controversial

circumstance. I

> > have learnt a lesson too. The last thing in my life is to defend

> > myself. I'm writing this because my guru is asking the question.

> >

> > I want to make sure that my intention was not to discuss the

answers

> > to anyone, before the puzzle was attempted by every one. I love

> > attempting the puzzles and know it's importance. But as FATE

would

> > have its play, this so happened that, I revealed the answer,

AFTER the

> > person in question said he's DONE with the puzzle, then. I DID

NOT

> > KNOW that he would re-post with a different chart and time. I was

> > equally shocked to see the answer on the list, the next day.

> >

> > I DID tell the truth to those who approached me with doubts

whether

> > the person who answered correctly had discussed this incident

with me,

> > in advance. The silence I maintained was to respect that person's

> > contribution so far, his helping nature and his real interests in

> > knowing this divine science. When I happened to talk to this

person

> > next time, I DID tell him that he's wrong with his answers on

the list

> > with out acknowledging that he knew the answer.

> >

> > The discussion that happened between us initially was to discuss

the

> > an important factor that was not seen by that person in his first

> > reply to me privately. This was done to emphasize that this new

tool,

> > that was used in this exercise, is as powerful as any other

tools that

> > we have. It's purely our limitations. Again I did not want to

post my

> > incident as a puzzle on the list to start with. This person

> > emphasized that it be put on the list, so that every one will

have a

> > chance to attempt. We can't escape the fate, is the lesson!

> >

> > I was and am still not having access to Internet for last 1 and

1/2

> > weeks as I have moved to my new house and yet to get the Internet

> > connection. So that also contributed for my delay in responding

in the

> > list.

> >

> > Hope you will forgive my silence and continue to bless me to

learn

> > this divine science with your guidance. I'll assure you, my

> > sincereness in learning, spreading this divine science and

helping the

> > needy within my capability and capacity. May the divine light

guide

> > us...

> >

> > With your blessings,

> >

> > Sishya, Palanivelu

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

> > <pvr@c...> wrote:

> > > Dear friends,

> > >

> > > I have confirmed that some puzzle givers were too gentle to

point

> > out fraud. When some members who found out the correct answer

> > privately attempted the puzzle publicly, after knowing the

correct

> > answer but without acknowledging it, the puzzle givers were too

nice

> > to say anything and simply gave credit to the members.

> > >

> > > This is very sad. The puzzle givers are equally at fault in

such

> > incidents as the cheating puzzle solvers! Acts of both the

parties

> > involved are totally against the spirit of the list.

> > >

> > > Puzzle givers, please don't reveal the answer to anyone

privately,

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om durgaamallikarjunayanamah

respected / dear learned members,find herebelow a puzzle and hope many students

from this group will be able to pin point the very important events which have

occured in 10 days period to the native. the answer will be given to the list

on 25.07.2005.till the final answer, i may not be in a position to give any

analytical hints (as i am neither an astrologer nor astrology student), for

which i beg pardon of everybody.now, the details -native's details: 13.10.1955,

11.48 a.m., 80E37, 16N31. (chart in jhd format attached).1st event: 04.02.1991

(february), 04.40 a.m., 78E28, 17N23.2nd event: 13.02.1991 (february), 14.40

hours, 78E28, 17N23.lastly, please note that, i am not an authority to judge

anybody's knowledge and the very purpose of this puzzle is for learning /

refining the understanding of the principles.tvr9422203510

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You were running Rahu-Mercury in that phase of your life, per both the

vimshottari and TP dasas. Rahu doesn't lord Aquarius in either your natal or TP

chart, and is GK in both.

 

Since Rahu was transiting your natal 2nd house, which has A4, and the 6th of the

TP chart which has A10 in it, aspecting your natal 10th and 2nd of TP, both of

which contained your AK, my guess is that some theft. Most likely, this theft

related to the office and a devious rival colleague was probably behind it all,

causing you major worries. The matter got resolved on 13th Feb.

 

Tell me I'm all wrong :^)

tvrao <tvrao_agd (AT) sancharnet (DOT) in> wrote:

om durgaamallikarjunayanamah

respected / dear learned members,find herebelow a puzzle and hope many students

from this group will be able to pin point the very important events which have

occured in 10 days period to the native. the answer will be given to the list

on 25.07.2005.till the final answer, i may not be in a position to give any

analytical hints (as i am neither an astrologer nor astrology student), for

which i beg pardon of everybody.now, the details -native's details: 13.10.1955,

11.48 a.m., 80E37, 16N31. (chart in jhd format attached).1st event: 04.02.1991

(february),

04.40 a.m., 78E28, 17N23.2nd event: 13.02.1991 (february), 14.40 hours, 78E28,

17N23.lastly, please note that, i am not an authority to judge anybody's

knowledge and the very purpose of this puzzle is for learning / refining the

understanding of the principles.tvr9422203510Energumen-----Other than that,

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om dakshinamoortiah namah

 

let me put a beginners attempt

 

u were running rahu merc moon during first and rahu merc mars during

second attempt

 

now first events bhoga fall in eight house some sudden development

 

now second thing its 10 th house invoving some work.

 

 

lets c tp

 

dasa is of venus

and antar dasa is of jt

 

venus is with is deblitated but gives results of sun and jt gives

results of ketu

 

so we get 12 house and third house combination

so combinations are

a failed journey

a failed contract

a temp hospitalisation

 

but the event may result in increase in fortune or endearment of

boss in long term or proving righteousness.

 

thanks rajesh

 

 

 

vedic astrology, tvrao <tvrao_agd@s...> wrote:

>

> om durgaamallikarjunayanamah

> respected / dear learned members,

>

> find herebelow a puzzle and hope many students from this group

will be

> able to pin point the very important events which have occured in

10 days

> period to the native. the answer will be given to the list on

25.07.2005.

>

> till the final answer, i may not be in a position to give any

analytical

> hints (as i am neither an astrologer nor astrology student), for

which i

> beg pardon of everybody.

>

> now, the details -

>

> native's details: 13.10.1955, 11.48 a.m., 80E37, 16N31. (chart

in jhd

> format attached).

>

> 1st event: 04.02.1991 (february), 04.40 a.m., 78E28, 17N23.

>

> 2nd event: 13.02.1991 (february), 14.40 hours, 78E28, 17N23.

>

> lastly, please note that, i am not an authority to judge

anybody's

> knowledge and the very purpose of this puzzle is for learning /

refining the

> understanding of the principles.

>

> tvr

> 9422203510

[Guest guest]

Hi

 

I think the event which would have happened is

calamity or loss relating to journey.

Journey is relating him to job.So i think some

accidents or infirmy relating to journey.So

job,infirmy

and journey related.Some event to it.

 

Regards

Santhosh

 

--- tvrao <tvrao_agd wrote:

 

>

> om durgaamallikarjunayanamah

> respected / dear learned members,

>

> find herebelow a puzzle and hope many students

> from this group will be

> able to pin point the very important events which

> have occured in 10 days

> period to the native. the answer will be given to

> the list on 25.07.2005.

>

> till the final answer, i may not be in a position

> to give any analytical

> hints (as i am neither an astrologer nor astrology

> student), for which i

> beg pardon of everybody.

>

> now, the details -

>

> native's details: 13.10.1955, 11.48 a.m., 80E37,

> 16N31. (chart in jhd

> format attached).

>

> 1st event: 04.02.1991 (february), 04.40 a.m.,

> 78E28, 17N23.

>

> 2nd event: 13.02.1991 (february), 14.40 hours,

> 78E28, 17N23.

>

> lastly, please note that, i am not an authority to

> judge anybody's

> knowledge and the very purpose of this puzzle is for

> learning / refining the

> understanding of the principles.

>

> tvr

> 9422203510

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Dear TVR,

This is my speculation

1. A male child was born to the native on feb 4th

2. There were complication and the child has to undergo surgery

3. Surgery did not work out.

 

Reasoning

I used Narayan dash on D1 and the period is a sandhi from Ta-Ta to

Ta-Ar

Entry period shows Jupiter and Ketu in the 5th house of children.

Exhalted Jupiter in 5th is not good for children, this is very

counter intuitive especially when Ketu is involved.

 

 

vedic astrology, tvrao <tvrao_agd@s...> wrote:

>

> om durgaamallikarjunayanamah

> respected / dear learned members,

>

> find herebelow a puzzle and hope many students from this group

will be

> able to pin point the very important events which have occured in

10 days

> period to the native. the answer will be given to the list on

25.07.2005.

>

> till the final answer, i may not be in a position to give any

analytical

> hints (as i am neither an astrologer nor astrology student), for

which i

> beg pardon of everybody.

>

> now, the details -

>

> native's details: 13.10.1955, 11.48 a.m., 80E37, 16N31. (chart

in jhd

> format attached).

>

> 1st event: 04.02.1991 (february), 04.40 a.m., 78E28, 17N23.

>

> 2nd event: 13.02.1991 (february), 14.40 hours, 78E28, 17N23.

>

> lastly, please note that, i am not an authority to judge

anybody's

> knowledge and the very purpose of this puzzle is for learning /

refining the

> understanding of the principles.

>

> tvr

> 9422203510

[Guest guest]

Dear Rao

Here is my attempt.

1. I did Look at the chart and I git the following

dasas running;

04.02.1991 : Ra/Me/sa/me/sa/Ju

04.11.1991 : Ra/Me/sa/ke/ke/sa

 

also I did a subsequent Prashna Chart and I got the

following:

Lagna = Sc

5th house: lagna lord Ma and Ra

9th House: Me/Ve/Su/Sa

11th house: Ju/Ke

12th House: MO.

I observed PD of Exalted Sa in bothe dates and also in

PAD as well as SAD in either dates.

Also on the prashna chart I observed both lagna lords

Ma as well as Ke afflicting Ju in 11th house.

since as it a matter of 11th house it has to do with

elder sibling. I looked at D3 chart and it seems like

an elder sister.Here too Sa is the 11th lord placed in

Gemini which confirms that the elder sibling is a

female native.

 

My guess is Elder sister must have been hospitalized

on 2nd and something bad happened on 13.02.91. This is

because in D3 Taking Gemini as Lagna, Ke is in 8th

house.

 

I hope, I err in my judgement.

 

Lakshman

 

--- tvrao <tvrao_agd wrote:

 

>

> om durgaamallikarjunayanamah

> respected / dear learned members,

>

> find herebelow a puzzle and hope many students

> from this group will be

> able to pin point the very important events which

> have occured in 10 days

> period to the native. the answer will be given to

> the list on 25.07.2005.

>

> till the final answer, i may not be in a position

> to give any analytical

> hints (as i am neither an astrologer nor astrology

> student), for which i

> beg pardon of everybody.

>

> now, the details -

>

> native's details: 13.10.1955, 11.48 a.m., 80E37,

> 16N31. (chart in jhd

> format attached).

>

> 1st event: 04.02.1991 (february), 04.40 a.m.,

> 78E28, 17N23.

>

> 2nd event: 13.02.1991 (february), 14.40 hours,

> 78E28, 17N23.

>

> lastly, please note that, i am not an authority to

> judge anybody's

> knowledge and the very purpose of this puzzle is for

> learning / refining the

> understanding of the principles.

>

> tvr

> 9422203510

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Wait a minute. Besides other matters, tvr has stated that important events

occurred in 10 days to the native. Presuming you're correct in your prediction,

this is misdirection from tvr, isn't it? How can an event relating to his elder

sis be an important event, and to him? Or is one allowed to say such things?

 

I'm asking genuinely, not with any sarcasm.

 

Regards,

Lakshman Brahma <lbrahma > wrote:

Dear RaoHere is my attempt.1. I did Look at the chart and I git the

followingdasas running;04.02.1991 : Ra/Me/sa/me/sa/Ju04.11.1991 :

Ra/Me/sa/ke/ke/saalso I did a subsequent Prashna Chart and I got

thefollowing:Lagna = Sc5th house: lagna lord Ma and Ra9th House:

Me/Ve/Su/Sa11th house: Ju/Ke12th House: MO.I observed PD of Exalted Sa in bothe

dates and also inPAD as well as SAD in either dates.Also on the prashna chart I

observed both lagna lordsMa as well as Ke afflicting Ju in 11th house.since as

it a matter of 11th house it has to do withelder sibling. I looked at D3 chart

and it seems likean elder sister.Here too Sa is the 11th lord placed inGemini

which confirms that the elder sibling is afemale native.My guess is Elder

sister must have been hospitalizedon 2nd and

something bad happened on 13.02.91. This isbecause in D3 Taking Gemini as Lagna,

Ke is in 8thhouse.I hope, I err in my judgement.Lakshman Energumen-----What's

the synonym for Thesaurus?Do

You ?

 

[Guest guest]

dear lakshman brahmaji,

 

the dates are as follows:

 

4th february, 1991 and 13th february, 1991.

 

tvr

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vedic astrology

[vedic astrology]On Behalf Of Lakshman Brahma

Sunday, July 17, 2005 4:08 AM

vedic astrology

RE: [vedic astrology] Re: ADMIN: To Puzzle Givers, Solvers and

Interferers

 

 

Dear Rao

Here is my attempt.

1. I did Look at the chart and I git the following

dasas running;

04.02.1991 : Ra/Me/sa/me/sa/Ju

04.11.1991 : Ra/Me/sa/ke/ke/sa

 

also I did a subsequent Prashna Chart and I got the

following:

Lagna = Sc

5th house: lagna lord Ma and Ra

9th House: Me/Ve/Su/Sa

11th house: Ju/Ke

12th House: MO.

I observed PD of Exalted Sa in bothe dates and also in

PAD as well as SAD in either dates.

Also on the prashna chart I observed both lagna lords

Ma as well as Ke afflicting Ju in 11th house.

since as it a matter of 11th house it has to do with

elder sibling. I looked at D3 chart and it seems like

an elder sister.Here too Sa is the 11th lord placed in

Gemini which confirms that the elder sibling is a

female native.

 

My guess is Elder sister must have been hospitalized

on 2nd and something bad happened on 13.02.91. This is

because in D3 Taking Gemini as Lagna, Ke is in 8th

house.

 

I hope, I err in my judgement.

 

Lakshman

 

--- tvrao <tvrao_agd wrote:

 

>

> om durgaamallikarjunayanamah

> respected / dear learned members,

>

> find herebelow a puzzle and hope many students

> from this group will be

> able to pin point the very important events which

> have occured in 10 days

> period to the native. the answer will be given to

> the list on 25.07.2005.

>

> till the final answer, i may not be in a position

> to give any analytical

> hints (as i am neither an astrologer nor astrology

> student), for which i

> beg pardon of everybody.

>

> now, the details -

>

> native's details: 13.10.1955, 11.48 a.m., 80E37,

> 16N31. (chart in jhd

> format attached).

>

> 1st event: 04.02.1991 (february), 04.40 a.m.,

> 78E28, 17N23.

>

> 2nd event: 13.02.1991 (february), 14.40 hours,

> 78E28, 17N23.

>

> lastly, please note that, i am not an authority to

> judge anybody's

> knowledge and the very purpose of this puzzle is for

> learning / refining the

> understanding of the principles.

>

> tvr

> 9422203510

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Dear Enegrgumen

Firstly let me say I was doing a blind analysis and

the qurer had given two dates on which presumably the

event took place. at least that was my understanding.

 

secondly I consider or according to me any thing

happening to relatives specially when they are related

by blood, are also important events. People have the

right to have their opinions. also astrologically I

have Mo as my AK and hence I may be too emotional

insuch events. so I consider that as an important

event.

 

As I said previously that I will be more happy if my

guess is wrong as I am not really comfirtable

conveying such events.

 

It is for shri TVR to unfold the answers.

 

Lakshman

 

--- Energumen <vernalagnia wrote:

 

> Dear Lakshman,

>

> Wait a minute. Besides other matters, tvr has stated

> that important events occurred in 10 days to the

> native. Presuming you're correct in your prediction,

> this is misdirection from tvr, isn't it? How can an

> event relating to his elder sis be an important

> event, and to him? Or is one allowed to say such

> things?

>

> I'm asking genuinely, not with any sarcasm.

>

> Regards,

>

>

> Lakshman Brahma <lbrahma wrote:

> Dear Rao

> Here is my attempt.

> 1. I did Look at the chart and I git the following

> dasas running;

> 04.02.1991 : Ra/Me/sa/me/sa/Ju

> 04.11.1991 : Ra/Me/sa/ke/ke/sa

>

> also I did a subsequent Prashna Chart and I got the

> following:

> Lagna = Sc

> 5th house: lagna lord Ma and Ra

> 9th House: Me/Ve/Su/Sa

> 11th house: Ju/Ke

> 12th House: MO.

> I observed PD of Exalted Sa in bothe dates and also

> in

> PAD as well as SAD in either dates.

> Also on the prashna chart I observed both lagna

> lords

> Ma as well as Ke afflicting Ju in 11th house.

> since as it a matter of 11th house it has to do with

> elder sibling. I looked at D3 chart and it seems

> like

> an elder sister.Here too Sa is the 11th lord placed

> in

> Gemini which confirms that the elder sibling is a

> female native.

>

> My guess is Elder sister must have been hospitalized

> on 2nd and something bad happened on 13.02.91. This

> is

> because in D3 Taking Gemini as Lagna, Ke is in 8th

> house.

>

> I hope, I err in my judgement.

>

> Lakshman

>

>

> Energumen

>

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Dear TVR

I beleive I did look for feb 13th and it is a typo on

my mail. but if you scroll down towards end of mail,

you can see the mail at the end where I had mentioned

something bad happened on 13.02.91.

 

Lakshman

 

--- tvrao <tvrao_agd wrote:

 

> dear lakshman brahmaji,

>

> the dates are as follows:

>

> 4th february, 1991 and 13th february, 1991.

>

> tvr

> 9422203510

>

>

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology]On Behalf Of

> Lakshman Brahma

> Sunday, July 17, 2005 4:08 AM

> vedic astrology

> RE: [vedic astrology] Re: ADMIN: To Puzzle

> Givers, Solvers and

> Interferers

>

>

> Dear Rao

> Here is my attempt.

> 1. I did Look at the chart and I git the following

> dasas running;

> 04.02.1991 : Ra/Me/sa/me/sa/Ju

> 04.11.1991 : Ra/Me/sa/ke/ke/sa

>

> also I did a subsequent Prashna Chart and I got the

> following:

> Lagna = Sc

> 5th house: lagna lord Ma and Ra

> 9th House: Me/Ve/Su/Sa

> 11th house: Ju/Ke

> 12th House: MO.

> I observed PD of Exalted Sa in bothe dates and also

> in

> PAD as well as SAD in either dates.

> Also on the prashna chart I observed both lagna

> lords

> Ma as well as Ke afflicting Ju in 11th house.

> since as it a matter of 11th house it has to do with

> elder sibling. I looked at D3 chart and it seems

> like

> an elder sister.Here too Sa is the 11th lord placed

> in

> Gemini which confirms that the elder sibling is a

> female native.

>

> My guess is Elder sister must have been hospitalized

> on 2nd and something bad happened on 13.02.91. This

> is

> because in D3 Taking Gemini as Lagna, Ke is in 8th

> house.

>

> I hope, I err in my judgement.

>

> Lakshman

>

> --- tvrao <tvrao_agd wrote:

>

> >

> > om durgaamallikarjunayanamah

> > respected / dear learned members,

> >

> > find herebelow a puzzle and hope many students

> > from this group will be

> > able to pin point the very important events which

> > have occured in 10 days

> > period to the native. the answer will be given to

> > the list on 25.07.2005.

> >

> > till the final answer, i may not be in a

> position

> > to give any analytical

> > hints (as i am neither an astrologer nor

> astrology

> > student), for which i

> > beg pardon of everybody.

> >

> > now, the details -

> >

> > native's details: 13.10.1955, 11.48 a.m., 80E37,

> > 16N31. (chart in jhd

> > format attached).

> >

> > 1st event: 04.02.1991 (february), 04.40 a.m.,

> > 78E28, 17N23.

> >

> > 2nd event: 13.02.1991 (february), 14.40 hours,

> > 78E28, 17N23.

> >

> > lastly, please note that, i am not an authority

> to

> > judge anybody's

> > knowledge and the very purpose of this puzzle is

> for

> > learning / refining the

> > understanding of the principles.

> >

> > tvr

> > 9422203510

> >

> >

> >

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