Guest guest Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 Dear friends, I have confirmed that some puzzle givers were too gentle to point out fraud. When some members who found out the correct answer privately attempted the puzzle publicly, after knowing the correct answer but without acknowledging it, the puzzle givers were too nice to say anything and simply gave credit to the members. This is very sad. The puzzle givers are equally at fault in such incidents as the cheating puzzle solvers! Acts of both the parties involved are totally against the spirit of the list. Puzzle givers, please don't reveal the answer to anyone privately, even if someone calls you or tries to chat with you. If someone who knows the answer gives an analysis making it look like a "blind analysis", please don't be too nice and do point it out publicly. This will discourage fraud in future. Complicity in an offense is an offense too. Puzzle solvers, if you know the answer and if you think that there is a clear logic to explain it, please do share your analysis with fellow students, but have the character to acknowledge that you knew the answer. There is a big difference between blind analysis and a retrospective analysis. There is no need to fake the latter for former. It is very unethical. If you want to illustrate how easy it is to find the answer, please do so without finding out the answer privately. And there have been some people of late who don't seem to know what is not their business. For example, whether a particular person should speak at an SJC workshop or not is the business of that person, his guru and the organizer of the workshop. As the list is growing, people should exercise more and more discipline to reduce noise on the list and keep the list meaningful. Thus, we will have to be stern with those who interfere in what is not their business. Please mind your business and stick to astrology. As I am busy with TP book, Narayan Iyer is administering the list. Please co-operate with him. He will be very stern in the coming days to bring the list back to normalcy and reduce useless traffic. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha List founder & admin PS: I had the pleasure of meeting Sri Purushothaman at the California seminar a few years back. He is a very nice and loving gentleman. My condolences to his immediate family and the SJC, Singapore family! -------------------------------Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Hare Rama Krishna Namaste PVR ji, Pranams. Sorry, for taking your valuable time to sort out the issues following my posting of the puzzle. My sincere apologies to those who have been hurt with my silence and thankful to those who came forward to point out the mistakes. I'll be more careful and vigilant to point out the mistakes as soon as possible. My silence here was not to hide, but give the person a chance to reveal the mistake himself and come up clean. I knew that the same persons who were asking me if he had prior knowledge of this incident had also approached the person in question. This is my first time experience in such controversial circumstance. I have learnt a lesson too. The last thing in my life is to defend myself. I'm writing this because my guru is asking the question. I want to make sure that my intention was not to discuss the answers to anyone, before the puzzle was attempted by every one. I love attempting the puzzles and know it's importance. But as FATE would have its play, this so happened that, I revealed the answer, AFTER the person in question said he's DONE with the puzzle, then. I DID NOT KNOW that he would re-post with a different chart and time. I was equally shocked to see the answer on the list, the next day. I DID tell the truth to those who approached me with doubts whether the person who answered correctly had discussed this incident with me, in advance. The silence I maintained was to respect that person's contribution so far, his helping nature and his real interests in knowing this divine science. When I happened to talk to this person next time, I DID tell him that he's wrong with his answers on the list with out acknowledging that he knew the answer. The discussion that happened between us initially was to discuss the an important factor that was not seen by that person in his first reply to me privately. This was done to emphasize that this new tool, that was used in this exercise, is as powerful as any other tools that we have. It's purely our limitations. Again I did not want to post my incident as a puzzle on the list to start with. This person emphasized that it be put on the list, so that every one will have a chance to attempt. We can't escape the fate, is the lesson! I was and am still not having access to Internet for last 1 and 1/2 weeks as I have moved to my new house and yet to get the Internet connection. So that also contributed for my delay in responding in the list. Hope you will forgive my silence and continue to bless me to learn this divine science with your guidance. I'll assure you, my sincereness in learning, spreading this divine science and helping the needy within my capability and capacity. May the divine light guide us... With your blessings, Sishya, Palanivelu vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...> wrote: > Dear friends, > > I have confirmed that some puzzle givers were too gentle to point out fraud. When some members who found out the correct answer privately attempted the puzzle publicly, after knowing the correct answer but without acknowledging it, the puzzle givers were too nice to say anything and simply gave credit to the members. > > This is very sad. The puzzle givers are equally at fault in such incidents as the cheating puzzle solvers! Acts of both the parties involved are totally against the spirit of the list. > > Puzzle givers, please don't reveal the answer to anyone privately, even if someone calls you or tries to chat with you. If someone who knows the answer gives an analysis making it look like a "blind analysis", please don't be too nice and do point it out publicly. This will discourage fraud in future. Complicity in an offense is an offense too. > > Puzzle solvers, if you know the answer and if you think that there is a clear logic to explain it, please do share your analysis with fellow students, but have the character to acknowledge that you knew the answer. There is a big difference between blind analysis and a retrospective analysis. There is no need to fake the latter for former. It is very unethical. If you want to illustrate how easy it is to find the answer, please do so without finding out the answer privately. > > And there have been some people of late who don't seem to know what is not their business. For example, whether a particular person should speak at an SJC workshop or not is the business of that person, his guru and the organizer of the workshop. As the list is growing, people should exercise more and more discipline to reduce noise on the list and keep the list meaningful. Thus, we will have to be stern with those who interfere in what is not their business. Please mind your business and stick to astrology. > > As I am busy with TP book, Narayan Iyer is administering the list. Please co-operate with him. He will be very stern in the coming days to bring the list back to normalcy and reduce useless traffic. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > List founder & admin > > PS: I had the pleasure of meeting Sri Purushothaman at the California seminar a few years back. He is a very nice and loving gentleman. My condolences to his immediate family and the SJC, Singapore family! > > ------------------------------- > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > ------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Namaste, Thanks for sharing this with everyone. This is simply amazing that this person would go to these lengths just to be right on the dot on the puzzles. He used to post all his correct predictions to every jyotish list known to him.Will he own up to this on all the other lists as well ? Many suspected that he had an inside track on the puzzles. May be he is someone bent on seeking publicity at any cost. In a few instances when some had asked him questions on his anlysis , either it was met with silence or "You need a guru to learn this method". Sometime back this individual also questioned peoples worthiness to receive this knowledge. Anyway it is Kaliyuga afterall and one needs to put up with people who cheat. .... On 7/13/05, Palanivelu <palsdevi wrote: > Hare Rama Krishna > > Namaste PVR ji, > > Pranams. Sorry, for taking your valuable time to sort out the issues > following my posting of the puzzle. My sincere apologies to those who > have been hurt with my silence and thankful to those who came forward > to point out the mistakes. I'll be more careful and vigilant to point > out the mistakes as soon as possible. My silence here was not to hide, > but give the person a chance to reveal the mistake himself and come up > clean. I knew that the same persons who were asking me if he had prior > knowledge of this incident had also approached the person in question. > This is my first time experience in such controversial circumstance. I > have learnt a lesson too. The last thing in my life is to defend > myself. I'm writing this because my guru is asking the question. > > I want to make sure that my intention was not to discuss the answers > to anyone, before the puzzle was attempted by every one. I love > attempting the puzzles and know it's importance. But as FATE would > have its play, this so happened that, I revealed the answer, AFTER the > person in question said he's DONE with the puzzle, then. I DID NOT > KNOW that he would re-post with a different chart and time. I was > equally shocked to see the answer on the list, the next day. > > I DID tell the truth to those who approached me with doubts whether > the person who answered correctly had discussed this incident with me, > in advance. The silence I maintained was to respect that person's > contribution so far, his helping nature and his real interests in > knowing this divine science. When I happened to talk to this person > next time, I DID tell him that he's wrong with his answers on the list > with out acknowledging that he knew the answer. > > The discussion that happened between us initially was to discuss the > an important factor that was not seen by that person in his first > reply to me privately. This was done to emphasize that this new tool, > that was used in this exercise, is as powerful as any other tools that > we have. It's purely our limitations. Again I did not want to post my > incident as a puzzle on the list to start with. This person > emphasized that it be put on the list, so that every one will have a > chance to attempt. We can't escape the fate, is the lesson! > > I was and am still not having access to Internet for last 1 and 1/2 > weeks as I have moved to my new house and yet to get the Internet > connection. So that also contributed for my delay in responding in the > list. > > Hope you will forgive my silence and continue to bless me to learn > this divine science with your guidance. I'll assure you, my > sincereness in learning, spreading this divine science and helping the > needy within my capability and capacity. May the divine light guide > us... > > With your blessings, > > Sishya, Palanivelu > > vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" > <pvr@c...> wrote: > > Dear friends, > > > > I have confirmed that some puzzle givers were too gentle to point > out fraud. When some members who found out the correct answer > privately attempted the puzzle publicly, after knowing the correct > answer but without acknowledging it, the puzzle givers were too nice > to say anything and simply gave credit to the members. > > > > This is very sad. The puzzle givers are equally at fault in such > incidents as the cheating puzzle solvers! Acts of both the parties > involved are totally against the spirit of the list. > > > > Puzzle givers, please don't reveal the answer to anyone privately, > even if someone calls you or tries to chat with you. If someone who > knows the answer gives an analysis making it look like a "blind > analysis", please don't be too nice and do point it out publicly. This > will discourage fraud in future. Complicity in an offense is an > offense too. > > > > Puzzle solvers, if you know the answer and if you think that there > is a clear logic to explain it, please do share your analysis with > fellow students, but have the character to acknowledge that you knew > the answer. There is a big difference between blind analysis and a > retrospective analysis. There is no need to fake the latter for > former. It is very unethical. If you want to illustrate how easy it is > to find the answer, please do so without finding out the answer > privately. > > > > And there have been some people of late who don't seem to know what > is not their business. For example, whether a particular person should > speak at an SJC workshop or not is the business of that person, his > guru and the organizer of the workshop. As the list is growing, people > should exercise more and more discipline to reduce noise on the list > and keep the list meaningful. Thus, we will have to be stern with > those who interfere in what is not their business. Please mind your > business and stick to astrology. > > > > As I am busy with TP book, Narayan Iyer is administering the list. > Please co-operate with him. He will be very stern in the coming days > to bring the list back to normalcy and reduce useless traffic. > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > Narasimha > > List founder & admin > > > > PS: I had the pleasure of meeting Sri Purushothaman at the > California seminar a few years back. He is a very nice and loving > gentleman. My condolences to his immediate family and the SJC, > Singapore family! > > > > > ------------------------------- > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): > http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > vedic astrology > > > > vedic astrology > > > > ________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Namaste, Tom tamed his victory at his roofs’ top, Disregarded neighbors envy, stood in the status by pop and hoop, Treacherous n’bors weaved a web in collusion with puzzle- maker, Made maani tumble down cheerful cheered all day long, Alas! Destiny destroyers’ tom tamed, The one man’s pain other men’s laughter, Alas! The scenario prevails among D’ destroyers, Kaliyuga blinks! Kaliyuga blinks! Panditji <navagraha wrote: > Namaste, > > Thanks for sharing this with everyone. This is > simply amazing that > this person would go to these lengths just to be > right on the dot on > the puzzles. He used to post all his correct > predictions to every > jyotish list known to him.Will he own up to this on > all the other > lists as well ? Many suspected that he had an inside > track on the > puzzles. May be he is someone bent on seeking > publicity at any cost. > > In a few instances when some had asked him questions > on his anlysis , > either it was met with silence or "You need a guru > to learn this > method". Sometime back this individual also > questioned peoples > worthiness to receive this knowledge. > > Anyway it is Kaliyuga afterall and one needs to put > up with people who cheat. > > ... > > On 7/13/05, Palanivelu <palsdevi wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > Namaste PVR ji, > > > > Pranams. Sorry, for taking your valuable time to > sort out the issues > > following my posting of the puzzle. My sincere > apologies to those who > > have been hurt with my silence and thankful to > those who came forward > > to point out the mistakes. I'll be more careful > and vigilant to point > > out the mistakes as soon as possible. My silence > here was not to hide, > > but give the person a chance to reveal the mistake > himself and come up > > clean. I knew that the same persons who were > asking me if he had prior > > knowledge of this incident had also approached the > person in question. > > This is my first time experience in such > controversial circumstance. I > > have learnt a lesson too. The last thing in my > life is to defend > > myself. I'm writing this because my guru is asking > the question. > > > > I want to make sure that my intention was not to > discuss the answers > > to anyone, before the puzzle was attempted by > every one. I love > > attempting the puzzles and know it's importance. > But as FATE would > > have its play, this so happened that, I revealed > the answer, AFTER the > > person in question said he's DONE with the puzzle, > then. I DID NOT > > KNOW that he would re-post with a different chart > and time. I was > > equally shocked to see the answer on the list, the > next day. > > > > I DID tell the truth to those who approached me > with doubts whether > > the person who answered correctly had discussed > this incident with me, > > in advance. The silence I maintained was to > respect that person's > > contribution so far, his helping nature and his > real interests in > > knowing this divine science. When I happened to > talk to this person > > next time, I DID tell him that he's wrong with his > answers on the list > > with out acknowledging that he knew the answer. > > > > The discussion that happened between us initially > was to discuss the > > an important factor that was not seen by that > person in his first > > reply to me privately. This was done to emphasize > that this new tool, > > that was used in this exercise, is as powerful as > any other tools that > > we have. It's purely our limitations. Again I did > not want to post my > > incident as a puzzle on the list to start > with. This person > > emphasized that it be put on the list, so that > every one will have a > > chance to attempt. We can't escape the fate, is > the lesson! > > > > I was and am still not having access to Internet > for last 1 and 1/2 > > weeks as I have moved to my new house and yet to > get the Internet > > connection. So that also contributed for my delay > in responding in the > > list. > > > > Hope you will forgive my silence and continue to > bless me to learn > > this divine science with your guidance. I'll > assure you, my > > sincereness in learning, spreading this divine > science and helping the > > needy within my capability and capacity. May the > divine light guide > > us... > > > > With your blessings, > > > > Sishya, Palanivelu > > > > vedic astrology, "Narasimha > P.V.R. Rao" > > <pvr@c...> wrote: > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > I have confirmed that some puzzle givers were > too gentle to point > > out fraud. When some members who found out the > correct answer > > privately attempted the puzzle publicly, after > knowing the correct > > answer but without acknowledging it, the puzzle > givers were too nice > > to say anything and simply gave credit to the > members. > > > > > > This is very sad. The puzzle givers are equally > at fault in such > > incidents as the cheating puzzle solvers! Acts of > both the parties > > involved are totally against the spirit of the > list. > > > > > > Puzzle givers, please don't reveal the answer to > anyone privately, > > even if someone calls you or tries to chat with > you. If someone who > > knows the answer gives an analysis making it look > like a "blind > > analysis", please don't be too nice and do point > it out publicly. This > > will discourage fraud in future. Complicity in an > offense is an > > offense too. > > > > > > Puzzle solvers, if you know the answer and if > you think that there > > is a clear logic to explain it, please do share > your analysis with > > fellow students, but have the character to > acknowledge that you knew > > the answer. There is a big difference between > blind analysis and a > > retrospective analysis. There is no need to fake > the latter for > > former. It is very unethical. If you want to > illustrate how easy it is > > to find the answer, please do so without finding > out the answer > > privately. > > > > > > And there have been some people of late who > don't seem to know what > > is not their business. For example, whether a > particular person should > > speak at an SJC workshop or not is the business of > that person, his > > guru and the organizer of the workshop. As the > list is growing, people > > should exercise more and more discipline to reduce > noise on the list > > and keep the list meaningful. Thus, we will have > to be stern with > > those who interfere in what is not their business. > Please mind your > > business and stick to astrology. > > > > > > As I am busy with TP book, Narayan Iyer is > administering the list. > > Please co-operate with him. He will be very stern > in the coming days > > to bring the list back to normalcy and reduce > useless traffic. > > > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > > Narasimha > > > List founder & admin > === message truncated === Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Namaste Panditji, I do believe that ethical behavior must be promoted and unethical behavior and fraud must be curbed. I have not tried to sweep things under the carpet, despite my great respect for the offending member and his guru. We are dealing with the problem and trying to ensure that it does not re-occur. However, it is not productive to politicize this issue and engage in personal attacks. It is easy to find faults with others, while ignoring bigger faults in oneself. None of is a Sri Ramachandra. We all have our faults. If somebody needs help, we need to be compassionate and offer a hand of help, rather than insulting the person more. The offending person has learnt a lot of knowledge in a short span of time and has helped many a person. We need to be grateful for that and help him recover from this. Whatever people need to know has already been stated, so that people are aware of these possibilities and are more vigilant in future. Please do NOT discuss this issue anymore. Dear Palani, I am not unhappy with you. You were probably surprised by the behavior of the gentleman and I understand your sentiment when you say "The silence I maintained was to respect that person's contribution so far, his helping nature and his real interests in knowing this divine science". I probably would've behaved the same way. Moreover, you were not the only person. The mail I sent was to alert people to this kind of behavior to make them more vigilant and also to encourage them to report fraud. My intention was not to reprimand you. I know that you are one of the most sincere and saattwik students out there. Friends, now let us put this episode behind us and move on. We had a lot of puzzles and a lot of genuine attempts and we all learned from them in the past. We can continue in the same spirit and put this behind us. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha List founder & admin ------------------------------- Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ------------------------------- > Namaste, > > Thanks for sharing this with everyone. This is simply amazing that > this person would go to these lengths just to be right on the dot on > the puzzles. He used to post all his correct predictions to every > jyotish list known to him.Will he own up to this on all the other > lists as well ? Many suspected that he had an inside track on the > puzzles. May be he is someone bent on seeking publicity at any cost. > > In a few instances when some had asked him questions on his anlysis , > either it was met with silence or "You need a guru to learn this > method". Sometime back this individual also questioned peoples > worthiness to receive this knowledge. > > Anyway it is Kaliyuga afterall and one needs to put up with people who cheat. > > ... > > On 7/13/05, Palanivelu <palsdevi> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > Namaste PVR ji, > > > > Pranams. Sorry, for taking your valuable time to sort out the issues > > following my posting of the puzzle. My sincere apologies to those who > > have been hurt with my silence and thankful to those who came forward > > to point out the mistakes. I'll be more careful and vigilant to point > > out the mistakes as soon as possible. My silence here was not to hide, > > but give the person a chance to reveal the mistake himself and come up > > clean. I knew that the same persons who were asking me if he had prior > > knowledge of this incident had also approached the person in question. > > This is my first time experience in such controversial circumstance. I > > have learnt a lesson too. The last thing in my life is to defend > > myself. I'm writing this because my guru is asking the question. > > > > I want to make sure that my intention was not to discuss the answers > > to anyone, before the puzzle was attempted by every one. I love > > attempting the puzzles and know it's importance. But as FATE would > > have its play, this so happened that, I revealed the answer, AFTER the > > person in question said he's DONE with the puzzle, then. I DID NOT > > KNOW that he would re-post with a different chart and time. I was > > equally shocked to see the answer on the list, the next day. > > > > I DID tell the truth to those who approached me with doubts whether > > the person who answered correctly had discussed this incident with me, > > in advance. The silence I maintained was to respect that person's > > contribution so far, his helping nature and his real interests in > > knowing this divine science. When I happened to talk to this person > > next time, I DID tell him that he's wrong with his answers on the list > > with out acknowledging that he knew the answer. > > > > The discussion that happened between us initially was to discuss the > > an important factor that was not seen by that person in his first > > reply to me privately. This was done to emphasize that this new tool, > > that was used in this exercise, is as powerful as any other tools that > > we have. It's purely our limitations. Again I did not want to post my > > incident as a puzzle on the list to start with. This person > > emphasized that it be put on the list, so that every one will have a > > chance to attempt. We can't escape the fate, is the lesson! > > > > I was and am still not having access to Internet for last 1 and 1/2 > > weeks as I have moved to my new house and yet to get the Internet > > connection. So that also contributed for my delay in responding in the > > list. > > > > Hope you will forgive my silence and continue to bless me to learn > > this divine science with your guidance. I'll assure you, my > > sincereness in learning, spreading this divine science and helping the > > needy within my capability and capacity. May the divine light guide > > us... > > > > With your blessings, > > > > Sishya, Palanivelu > > > > vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" > > <pvr@c...> wrote: > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > I have confirmed that some puzzle givers were too gentle to point > > out fraud. When some members who found out the correct answer > > privately attempted the puzzle publicly, after knowing the correct > > answer but without acknowledging it, the puzzle givers were too nice > > to say anything and simply gave credit to the members. > > > > > > This is very sad. The puzzle givers are equally at fault in such > > incidents as the cheating puzzle solvers! Acts of both the parties > > involved are totally against the spirit of the list. > > > > > > Puzzle givers, please don't reveal the answer to anyone privately, > > even if someone calls you or tries to chat with you. If someone who > > knows the answer gives an analysis making it look like a "blind > > analysis", please don't be too nice and do point it out publicly. This > > will discourage fraud in future. Complicity in an offense is an > > offense too. > > > > > > Puzzle solvers, if you know the answer and if you think that there > > is a clear logic to explain it, please do share your analysis with > > fellow students, but have the character to acknowledge that you knew > > the answer. There is a big difference between blind analysis and a > > retrospective analysis. There is no need to fake the latter for > > former. It is very unethical. If you want to illustrate how easy it is > > to find the answer, please do so without finding out the answer > > privately. > > > > > > And there have been some people of late who don't seem to know what > > is not their business. For example, whether a particular person should > > speak at an SJC workshop or not is the business of that person, his > > guru and the organizer of the workshop. As the list is growing, people > > should exercise more and more discipline to reduce noise on the list > > and keep the list meaningful. Thus, we will have to be stern with > > those who interfere in what is not their business. Please mind your > > business and stick to astrology. > > > > > > As I am busy with TP book, Narayan Iyer is administering the list. > > Please co-operate with him. He will be very stern in the coming days > > to bring the list back to normalcy and reduce useless traffic. > > > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > > Narasimha > > > List founder & admin > > > > > > PS: I had the pleasure of meeting Sri Purushothaman at the > > California seminar a few years back. He is a very nice and loving > > gentleman. My condolences to his immediate family and the SJC, > > Singapore family! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 om durgaamallikarjunayanamah respected / dear learned members,find herebelow a puzzle and hope many students from this group will be able to pin point the very important events which have occured in 10 days period to the native. the answer will be given to the list on 25.07.2005.till the final answer, i may not be in a position to give any analytical hints (as i am neither an astrologer nor astrology student), for which i beg pardon of everybody.now, the details -native's details: 13.10.1955, 11.48 a.m., 80E37, 16N31. (chart in jhd format attached).1st event: 04.02.1991 (february), 04.40 a.m., 78E28, 17N23.2nd event: 13.02.1991 (february), 14.40 hours, 78E28, 17N23.lastly, please note that, i am not an authority to judge anybody's knowledge and the very purpose of this puzzle is for learning / refining the understanding of the principles.tvr9422203510 Attachment: [not stored] Attachment: [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 You were running Rahu-Mercury in that phase of your life, per both the vimshottari and TP dasas. Rahu doesn't lord Aquarius in either your natal or TP chart, and is GK in both. Since Rahu was transiting your natal 2nd house, which has A4, and the 6th of the TP chart which has A10 in it, aspecting your natal 10th and 2nd of TP, both of which contained your AK, my guess is that some theft. Most likely, this theft related to the office and a devious rival colleague was probably behind it all, causing you major worries. The matter got resolved on 13th Feb. Tell me I'm all wrong :^) tvrao <tvrao_agd (AT) sancharnet (DOT) in> wrote: om durgaamallikarjunayanamah respected / dear learned members,find herebelow a puzzle and hope many students from this group will be able to pin point the very important events which have occured in 10 days period to the native. the answer will be given to the list on 25.07.2005.till the final answer, i may not be in a position to give any analytical hints (as i am neither an astrologer nor astrology student), for which i beg pardon of everybody.now, the details -native's details: 13.10.1955, 11.48 a.m., 80E37, 16N31. (chart in jhd format attached).1st event: 04.02.1991 (february), 04.40 a.m., 78E28, 17N23.2nd event: 13.02.1991 (february), 14.40 hours, 78E28, 17N23.lastly, please note that, i am not an authority to judge anybody's knowledge and the very purpose of this puzzle is for learning / refining the understanding of the principles.tvr9422203510Energumen-----Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? Mail - You care about security. So do we. Attachment: (image/gif) [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 om dakshinamoortiah namah let me put a beginners attempt u were running rahu merc moon during first and rahu merc mars during second attempt now first events bhoga fall in eight house some sudden development now second thing its 10 th house invoving some work. lets c tp dasa is of venus and antar dasa is of jt venus is with is deblitated but gives results of sun and jt gives results of ketu so we get 12 house and third house combination so combinations are a failed journey a failed contract a temp hospitalisation but the event may result in increase in fortune or endearment of boss in long term or proving righteousness. thanks rajesh vedic astrology, tvrao <tvrao_agd@s...> wrote: > > om durgaamallikarjunayanamah > respected / dear learned members, > > find herebelow a puzzle and hope many students from this group will be > able to pin point the very important events which have occured in 10 days > period to the native. the answer will be given to the list on 25.07.2005. > > till the final answer, i may not be in a position to give any analytical > hints (as i am neither an astrologer nor astrology student), for which i > beg pardon of everybody. > > now, the details - > > native's details: 13.10.1955, 11.48 a.m., 80E37, 16N31. (chart in jhd > format attached). > > 1st event: 04.02.1991 (february), 04.40 a.m., 78E28, 17N23. > > 2nd event: 13.02.1991 (february), 14.40 hours, 78E28, 17N23. > > lastly, please note that, i am not an authority to judge anybody's > knowledge and the very purpose of this puzzle is for learning / refining the > understanding of the principles. > > tvr > 9422203510 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Hi I think the event which would have happened is calamity or loss relating to journey. Journey is relating him to job.So i think some accidents or infirmy relating to journey.So job,infirmy and journey related.Some event to it. Regards Santhosh --- tvrao <tvrao_agd wrote: > > om durgaamallikarjunayanamah > respected / dear learned members, > > find herebelow a puzzle and hope many students > from this group will be > able to pin point the very important events which > have occured in 10 days > period to the native. the answer will be given to > the list on 25.07.2005. > > till the final answer, i may not be in a position > to give any analytical > hints (as i am neither an astrologer nor astrology > student), for which i > beg pardon of everybody. > > now, the details - > > native's details: 13.10.1955, 11.48 a.m., 80E37, > 16N31. (chart in jhd > format attached). > > 1st event: 04.02.1991 (february), 04.40 a.m., > 78E28, 17N23. > > 2nd event: 13.02.1991 (february), 14.40 hours, > 78E28, 17N23. > > lastly, please note that, i am not an authority to > judge anybody's > knowledge and the very purpose of this puzzle is for > learning / refining the > understanding of the principles. > > tvr > 9422203510 > > > __ Start your day with - make it your home page http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Dear TVR, This is my speculation 1. A male child was born to the native on feb 4th 2. There were complication and the child has to undergo surgery 3. Surgery did not work out. Reasoning I used Narayan dash on D1 and the period is a sandhi from Ta-Ta to Ta-Ar Entry period shows Jupiter and Ketu in the 5th house of children. Exhalted Jupiter in 5th is not good for children, this is very counter intuitive especially when Ketu is involved. vedic astrology, tvrao <tvrao_agd@s...> wrote: > > om durgaamallikarjunayanamah > respected / dear learned members, > > find herebelow a puzzle and hope many students from this group will be > able to pin point the very important events which have occured in 10 days > period to the native. the answer will be given to the list on 25.07.2005. > > till the final answer, i may not be in a position to give any analytical > hints (as i am neither an astrologer nor astrology student), for which i > beg pardon of everybody. > > now, the details - > > native's details: 13.10.1955, 11.48 a.m., 80E37, 16N31. (chart in jhd > format attached). > > 1st event: 04.02.1991 (february), 04.40 a.m., 78E28, 17N23. > > 2nd event: 13.02.1991 (february), 14.40 hours, 78E28, 17N23. > > lastly, please note that, i am not an authority to judge anybody's > knowledge and the very purpose of this puzzle is for learning / refining the > understanding of the principles. > > tvr > 9422203510 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Dear Rao Here is my attempt. 1. I did Look at the chart and I git the following dasas running; 04.02.1991 : Ra/Me/sa/me/sa/Ju 04.11.1991 : Ra/Me/sa/ke/ke/sa also I did a subsequent Prashna Chart and I got the following: Lagna = Sc 5th house: lagna lord Ma and Ra 9th House: Me/Ve/Su/Sa 11th house: Ju/Ke 12th House: MO. I observed PD of Exalted Sa in bothe dates and also in PAD as well as SAD in either dates. Also on the prashna chart I observed both lagna lords Ma as well as Ke afflicting Ju in 11th house. since as it a matter of 11th house it has to do with elder sibling. I looked at D3 chart and it seems like an elder sister.Here too Sa is the 11th lord placed in Gemini which confirms that the elder sibling is a female native. My guess is Elder sister must have been hospitalized on 2nd and something bad happened on 13.02.91. This is because in D3 Taking Gemini as Lagna, Ke is in 8th house. I hope, I err in my judgement. Lakshman --- tvrao <tvrao_agd wrote: > > om durgaamallikarjunayanamah > respected / dear learned members, > > find herebelow a puzzle and hope many students > from this group will be > able to pin point the very important events which > have occured in 10 days > period to the native. the answer will be given to > the list on 25.07.2005. > > till the final answer, i may not be in a position > to give any analytical > hints (as i am neither an astrologer nor astrology > student), for which i > beg pardon of everybody. > > now, the details - > > native's details: 13.10.1955, 11.48 a.m., 80E37, > 16N31. (chart in jhd > format attached). > > 1st event: 04.02.1991 (february), 04.40 a.m., > 78E28, 17N23. > > 2nd event: 13.02.1991 (february), 14.40 hours, > 78E28, 17N23. > > lastly, please note that, i am not an authority to > judge anybody's > knowledge and the very purpose of this puzzle is for > learning / refining the > understanding of the principles. > > tvr > 9422203510 > > > __ Start your day with - make it your home page http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Wait a minute. Besides other matters, tvr has stated that important events occurred in 10 days to the native. Presuming you're correct in your prediction, this is misdirection from tvr, isn't it? How can an event relating to his elder sis be an important event, and to him? Or is one allowed to say such things? I'm asking genuinely, not with any sarcasm. Regards, Lakshman Brahma <lbrahma > wrote: Dear RaoHere is my attempt.1. I did Look at the chart and I git the followingdasas running;04.02.1991 : Ra/Me/sa/me/sa/Ju04.11.1991 : Ra/Me/sa/ke/ke/saalso I did a subsequent Prashna Chart and I got thefollowing:Lagna = Sc5th house: lagna lord Ma and Ra9th House: Me/Ve/Su/Sa11th house: Ju/Ke12th House: MO.I observed PD of Exalted Sa in bothe dates and also inPAD as well as SAD in either dates.Also on the prashna chart I observed both lagna lordsMa as well as Ke afflicting Ju in 11th house.since as it a matter of 11th house it has to do withelder sibling. I looked at D3 chart and it seems likean elder sister.Here too Sa is the 11th lord placed inGemini which confirms that the elder sibling is afemale native.My guess is Elder sister must have been hospitalizedon 2nd and something bad happened on 13.02.91. This isbecause in D3 Taking Gemini as Lagna, Ke is in 8thhouse.I hope, I err in my judgement.Lakshman Energumen-----What's the synonym for Thesaurus?Do You ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 dear lakshman brahmaji, the dates are as follows: 4th february, 1991 and 13th february, 1991. tvr 9422203510 vedic astrology [vedic astrology]On Behalf Of Lakshman Brahma Sunday, July 17, 2005 4:08 AM vedic astrology RE: [vedic astrology] Re: ADMIN: To Puzzle Givers, Solvers and Interferers Dear Rao Here is my attempt. 1. I did Look at the chart and I git the following dasas running; 04.02.1991 : Ra/Me/sa/me/sa/Ju 04.11.1991 : Ra/Me/sa/ke/ke/sa also I did a subsequent Prashna Chart and I got the following: Lagna = Sc 5th house: lagna lord Ma and Ra 9th House: Me/Ve/Su/Sa 11th house: Ju/Ke 12th House: MO. I observed PD of Exalted Sa in bothe dates and also in PAD as well as SAD in either dates. Also on the prashna chart I observed both lagna lords Ma as well as Ke afflicting Ju in 11th house. since as it a matter of 11th house it has to do with elder sibling. I looked at D3 chart and it seems like an elder sister.Here too Sa is the 11th lord placed in Gemini which confirms that the elder sibling is a female native. My guess is Elder sister must have been hospitalized on 2nd and something bad happened on 13.02.91. This is because in D3 Taking Gemini as Lagna, Ke is in 8th house. I hope, I err in my judgement. Lakshman --- tvrao <tvrao_agd wrote: > > om durgaamallikarjunayanamah > respected / dear learned members, > > find herebelow a puzzle and hope many students > from this group will be > able to pin point the very important events which > have occured in 10 days > period to the native. the answer will be given to > the list on 25.07.2005. > > till the final answer, i may not be in a position > to give any analytical > hints (as i am neither an astrologer nor astrology > student), for which i > beg pardon of everybody. > > now, the details - > > native's details: 13.10.1955, 11.48 a.m., 80E37, > 16N31. (chart in jhd > format attached). > > 1st event: 04.02.1991 (february), 04.40 a.m., > 78E28, 17N23. > > 2nd event: 13.02.1991 (february), 14.40 hours, > 78E28, 17N23. > > lastly, please note that, i am not an authority to > judge anybody's > knowledge and the very purpose of this puzzle is for > learning / refining the > understanding of the principles. > > tvr > 9422203510 > > > __ Start your day with - make it your home page http://www./r/hs Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 Dear Enegrgumen Firstly let me say I was doing a blind analysis and the qurer had given two dates on which presumably the event took place. at least that was my understanding. secondly I consider or according to me any thing happening to relatives specially when they are related by blood, are also important events. People have the right to have their opinions. also astrologically I have Mo as my AK and hence I may be too emotional insuch events. so I consider that as an important event. As I said previously that I will be more happy if my guess is wrong as I am not really comfirtable conveying such events. It is for shri TVR to unfold the answers. Lakshman --- Energumen <vernalagnia wrote: > Dear Lakshman, > > Wait a minute. Besides other matters, tvr has stated > that important events occurred in 10 days to the > native. Presuming you're correct in your prediction, > this is misdirection from tvr, isn't it? How can an > event relating to his elder sis be an important > event, and to him? Or is one allowed to say such > things? > > I'm asking genuinely, not with any sarcasm. > > Regards, > > > Lakshman Brahma <lbrahma wrote: > Dear Rao > Here is my attempt. > 1. I did Look at the chart and I git the following > dasas running; > 04.02.1991 : Ra/Me/sa/me/sa/Ju > 04.11.1991 : Ra/Me/sa/ke/ke/sa > > also I did a subsequent Prashna Chart and I got the > following: > Lagna = Sc > 5th house: lagna lord Ma and Ra > 9th House: Me/Ve/Su/Sa > 11th house: Ju/Ke > 12th House: MO. > I observed PD of Exalted Sa in bothe dates and also > in > PAD as well as SAD in either dates. > Also on the prashna chart I observed both lagna > lords > Ma as well as Ke afflicting Ju in 11th house. > since as it a matter of 11th house it has to do with > elder sibling. I looked at D3 chart and it seems > like > an elder sister.Here too Sa is the 11th lord placed > in > Gemini which confirms that the elder sibling is a > female native. > > My guess is Elder sister must have been hospitalized > on 2nd and something bad happened on 13.02.91. This > is > because in D3 Taking Gemini as Lagna, Ke is in 8th > house. > > I hope, I err in my judgement. > > Lakshman > > > Energumen > > ----- > What's the synonym for Thesaurus? > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > Mail for Mobile Take Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile./learn/mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 Dear TVR I beleive I did look for feb 13th and it is a typo on my mail. but if you scroll down towards end of mail, you can see the mail at the end where I had mentioned something bad happened on 13.02.91. Lakshman --- tvrao <tvrao_agd wrote: > dear lakshman brahmaji, > > the dates are as follows: > > 4th february, 1991 and 13th february, 1991. > > tvr > 9422203510 > > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology]On Behalf Of > Lakshman Brahma > Sunday, July 17, 2005 4:08 AM > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: ADMIN: To Puzzle > Givers, Solvers and > Interferers > > > Dear Rao > Here is my attempt. > 1. I did Look at the chart and I git the following > dasas running; > 04.02.1991 : Ra/Me/sa/me/sa/Ju > 04.11.1991 : Ra/Me/sa/ke/ke/sa > > also I did a subsequent Prashna Chart and I got the > following: > Lagna = Sc > 5th house: lagna lord Ma and Ra > 9th House: Me/Ve/Su/Sa > 11th house: Ju/Ke > 12th House: MO. > I observed PD of Exalted Sa in bothe dates and also > in > PAD as well as SAD in either dates. > Also on the prashna chart I observed both lagna > lords > Ma as well as Ke afflicting Ju in 11th house. > since as it a matter of 11th house it has to do with > elder sibling. I looked at D3 chart and it seems > like > an elder sister.Here too Sa is the 11th lord placed > in > Gemini which confirms that the elder sibling is a > female native. > > My guess is Elder sister must have been hospitalized > on 2nd and something bad happened on 13.02.91. This > is > because in D3 Taking Gemini as Lagna, Ke is in 8th > house. > > I hope, I err in my judgement. > > Lakshman > > --- tvrao <tvrao_agd wrote: > > > > > om durgaamallikarjunayanamah > > respected / dear learned members, > > > > find herebelow a puzzle and hope many students > > from this group will be > > able to pin point the very important events which > > have occured in 10 days > > period to the native. the answer will be given to > > the list on 25.07.2005. > > > > till the final answer, i may not be in a > position > > to give any analytical > > hints (as i am neither an astrologer nor > astrology > > student), for which i > > beg pardon of everybody. > > > > now, the details - > > > > native's details: 13.10.1955, 11.48 a.m., 80E37, > > 16N31. (chart in jhd > > format attached). > > > > 1st event: 04.02.1991 (february), 04.40 a.m., > > 78E28, 17N23. > > > > 2nd event: 13.02.1991 (february), 14.40 hours, > > 78E28, 17N23. > > > > lastly, please note that, i am not an authority > to > > judge anybody's > > knowledge and the very purpose of this puzzle is > for > > learning / refining the > > understanding of the principles. > > > > tvr > > 9422203510 > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Start your day with - make it your home page > http://www./r/hs > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu > || > Links > > > > > > __ Start your day with - make it your home page http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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